Measurement Problem - Reality is an Illusion

[JPVeigaaaa]

@josh218 You're trying to be rational with these people?

How do you think they got to those beliefs in the first place.

Word of advice: don't lose your time.

I've been there.

[hussain55019]

great work

[soldatheero]

@jamestr4 your correct that measuring device will do but what you have missed, and what the new agers have also missed, is that it's not the consciousness of a person that does it. The measuring device itself exists as a product of perception.

[ronnyboy6o]

@SASNIGHTCRAWLER I agree, but would u believe observation of light at a quantum level isn't the same at the macroscopic? i.e is there a difference in what light actually is b/w being aware of it by means of your eyes vs. computed measurements of machines? If so, it is the machine that can find the atom, and b/c eyes cannot, light to your observation is as uniform as the pond. No particle really exist until this shapeless area of energy bounces of something to YOUR observation.

[motherfather2009]

c'mon this is soooo lame. esoteric programming language. pseudoscience mixture of "serious sounding" words. be careful, and dont believe anything you find online. this has nothing to do with science.

[StardustSpaceMonkey]

@motherfather2009 Label, label and label some more instead of coming up with a credible argument. I have heard even the most imbesill people argumenting with labels about things that they dont know sh*t about themselves but they serve this as an argument from authority.

[ronnyboy6o]

Here is my theory...

A photon is a particle like an atom, including an orbiting e-. The obs. eff. is the result of the displacement of the whole particle being faster than the freq. of the e-'s orbit. Combined, moving around in a circle & speed of displacement causes the e-'s path to be stretched through space to form the wave. So when you look at the actual photon directly you see the particle that it is & wave behavior is due to the e-'s orbit.

Reality consist of the atom alone

[TheTheKRIT]

@hate135 typical close, minded moron. go mainstream music end mainstream science. the point is this, when you look deep into matter what is it? its open space and energy. soul your brain doing is taking frequencies and making an image in your brain change the receptors change the image.

[fc2g08]

Not all the clips are true and provable, but a lot of them are. We DID all come from the same place at the start of time, as all matter came into existence in this moment, so we ARE all connected. This also tries to conceptualize how it is possible that from that moment of creation spawned a set of rules, fundamental constants of nature, that resulted in life, matter that has developed an understanding of it.

[ilkongsag]

thumbs up for david icke!

[hate135]

Annoying music and annoying statements, trying to combine a theory with reality.. That doesn't work in this case..

[robo199617]

I'm not entirely sure, but I thought the collapse was due to the electrons interacting with any other particle - not just concious observers.

[777azathoth]

i keep thinking i don't exist,so i have many mirrors in my house to remind me that i'm really here!

but i do realize that i AM,but i take some comfort in the knowledge of my hologram!

cool vid. i love quantum physics

[55painterman]

if you plant a Tiny Seed of a Sequoia tree-> 2,000 Yrs Later the tree is gigantic' but still contains Everything in the Seed in which it came" ~So is the Universe and even Our Lives Even tho, your Born you are still in the Original Sperm of Ur Familys tree Which where you Came' so when We die? yes Our Body is Dead" But We Still Exist within the tree of Our Family and Will Return to Life From Our Familys Childrens Childrens Ect!..No Need to be Saved By a Non Existant God" its How Nature Works!"

[ammachi3]

Modern Science is now approaching the same description of reality that was detailed by the Sages of Ancient India thousands of years ago. 05:25 Separation – perceiving separate objects as distinct from one another - is an illusion of the mind and not the ture nature of the world. At07:01, it is a Guru called Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev, I have been to his Ashram in Kerala, South India, what he says it true if you think about it. How limited are our sense perception, really?!

[ammachi3]

The relative world, in nothing but a mass of unlimited variations, based on polarities, that are combining and re-combining, configuring endlessly in the cosmic dance. However, the base, or support of the universe is the One Universal Variant, a homogenous mass, the Immeasurable Amplitude. It is Unchanging, and therefore Beggingless, Deathless and Unending – an Absolute Energy. It is beyond conceptions, theories and thoughts, beyond localised and separated perception.

[ammachi3]

What kind beings would a planet thousands of times bigger than the earth produce? There mass and energy would give rise to a totally different rate at which the universe is perceived! Who knows, what would other life forms in the universe use to describe the constituents of the universe? How would they explain it? Obviously, it would be based on how their perceptual apparatuses cognised the environment. But we would not be able to understand it directly.

[ammachi3]

At 01:02, what he mentions is right…its like the though-experiment: what would a tree falling sound like if there was no one there to hear is? It’s very simple, and true really. There is only something – a certain reality based of relative experience - because a conscious being observes and makes a judgment and evaluation of its surroundings based on the amplitude of its configuration.

[MCkillerG050]

somehow this does not ad up, when i am knocked unconscious how does consciousness return to my body ? must be a natural thing and so is consciousness nothing like this hokus pokus nonsense about holograms, my body remains my body and when i am dead my brain functions alter and so i am not consious and never will be because the matter does not function. so consciousness is nothing more then interactments between matter and electrical pulses or whatever you might call stuff im not a scientist.

[IceAges14Aces]

Unfortunately, there is no such thing as a single, unambiguous reality. What we call reality is actually in the eye of the beholder, ie when we observe/measure something (keep in mind consciousness is not required) we cause it to become a reality. If you're a skeptic and don't believe in this, do the quantum experiments! No matter how hard you try to find this single, unambiguous reality, you will never get it because you will always end up in a road full of contradictions....

[IceAges14Aces]

This video is very misleading and not even close to what Quantum Mechanics is trying to say. QM never said reality is an illusion. In QM, reality is indeed real; however, it was created by the simple act of measurement. Consciousness is not required in measurement, any measurement device (e.g. photon detector) will do.

[No1hannibal]

What is the background music of this video? Does anyone know? :D

[topbluffa1]

well done science your slowly copying Hinduism and therefore getting less stupid.

[ShirikonNoKami]

Is it me, or are the implications here that all possible things are happening, everywhere, in a flexible and omnifarious past... Until observed.

[Oldpeacefulwarrior]

Are we discovering or Creating...?

[SvenTviking]

Don't worry about it, have a nice cup of tea (or coffee) and a bacon sandwich.

[t1u9b8a8]

Here is a nice ecumenical article that treats the debate with some respect. Honestly, I think the theory of consciousness creating wave-collapse function IS a theory and not pseudoscience. However, those who ascribe to such a theory must recognize that it is a theory nonetheless. I love this because this is where philosophy and spirituality bleed into the scientific world. :D

[qwe12364]

@t1u9b8a8 you are defining "theory" incorrectly.



[SpikeZeek]

crazy thought. IF the purpose of life were to expand your consciouness, and the universe is expanding, and everything could and is connected, what is expanding who or who is expanding what

[BrotherDharma]

@josh218 with observation they mean any type of perception, not just visual. according to their theory, perception is not just limited to us humans but actually makes up the ground of all matter. so if a tree falls in the forest and nobody has seen or heard it, it still happened because consciousness is there anyway.

[BroBroDude]

This is disgusting bullshit.

[trinikagekavir]

@BroBroDude lol its cute that you believe that you know more than some of the greatest scientific minds.

[BroBroDude]

@trinikagekavir These aren't the conclusions of "the greatest scientific minds". This is paper-thin, open-ended, virtually groundless theorizing by a bunch of "science writers" who don't know their elbow from their ass when it comes to bayesian probability or epistemology, let alone quantum calculation.

If you knew the first thing about the subject, you'd know better than to side with these charlatans just because they are presented to you in a shiny over-produced video as authoritative.

[trinikagekavir]

@BroBroDude Lol I wasn't not talking about these guys. Quite frankly they are nobodies to me. I meant the vass array of other scientists (including Einstein) who believed that reality could be little more than a field a.k.a. an illusion.

[BroBroDude]

@trinikagekavir "Vass array", gotcha.

[trinikagekavir]

@BroBroDude i meant ' vast '

Funny how you use a spelling mistake as proof that I'm wrong and you do not address the fact that Einstein agreed with the reality is only a field issue.

[AltruisticSelfishnes]

@josh218 Yes, go ahead and try it.

[bluedogofdark]

musics too loud

[oktal3700]

3:38 The energy is still there!

"To swallow and follow, whether old doctrine or new, is a weakness still dominating the human mind." - Charlotte Perkins Gilman

[3000ADRecords]

whos the guy right at the end?

[Apothis]

@3000ADRecords bill hicks

[3000ADRecords]

@Apothis Thankyou, I knew I was being dumb, just couldnt remember his name :)



[JamesTR4]

The collapse doesn't happen because of consciousness. Actually, any measuring device will do. This is pseudoscience...

[cartesiaLive]

@JamesTR4 I felt the same way but now I'm not sure... how does a microscope 'observe'? how does a ruler 'measure'? if a 'quantum ruler' is near quantum objects, does that count? how close does it have to be?

[oktal3700]

@cartesiaLive Measurement is entanglement. If you attach a sensor to a quantum system, they become entangled with each other. From the POV of the sensor, the system is collapsed, but from the POV of another observer (e.g. human), neither sensor nor system is collapsed until he observes one or the other. For him, observing either the sensor or the system collapses both. A human is just a sensor that happens to be conscious.

Watch the video "Quantum Conspiracy" on GoogleTechTalks Youtube channel.

[oktal3700]

@JamesTR4 And "measuring device" could be anything. It doesn't even have to be doing any actual measurement in the classical sense. Just something that is in any way perturbed by the thing being "measured". Collapse is not fundamental to the equations of QM. It's just the result of the thing becoming entangled with the "measuring device", which is already entangled with its surroundings. And it's possible to only partially collapse by using a measuring device that is only partially accurate.

[LivingCode]

@JamesTR4 Because you are concious of the measuring device! :D

[Namaste1001]

@JamesTR4 - All acts of measuring originate from the human in the first place regardless of the device that is recording the end result.

[trinikagekavir]

@JamesTR4 Where the fuck does a measuring device come from. It is only useful because of observations....your fucking consciousness. I cannot believe that this is the highest rated comment.

[JamesTR4]

@trinikagekavir emm...it's funny how u think u understand QM...If you have an experiment and you take data that you don't actually look at...and then wait for interference, it won't happen...The particles will behave like particles...If you remove the device, they behave like waves...Simply because a device you haven't even seen takes data...So, a detector that you don't even need to have access to, alters the results of the experiments you are doing...and that's why u don't need one device

[188Sozum]

@JamesTR4 the measuring device is conscious. And conscious beings still create these devices last time I checked.

[JamesTR4]

@188Sozum the measuring device isn't conscious nor intelligent..Yet a conscious and intelligent being created it..

[ShirikonNoKami]

@JamesTR4 I was just looking into the double slit experiment and, more importantly, the delayed choice quantum eraser. The general consensus seems to be... No, the detector does not actually have an effect. But It seems more research needs to take place.

[valdas0]

How do we know that in beginning there was nothing? Oh and is it possible for some beings to perceive other dimensions but not the dimensions we perceive? Or to perceive 4th dimension you need to be able to perceive 1st, 2nd and the 3rd?

[nickharvey7]

Very interesting video! I am on YouTube trying to promote my theory on the dynamics of light and time

This theory is based on just two postulates,

1. The first is that the quantum wave particle function explained by Schrödinger’s wave equation represents the forward passage of time or Arrow of Time photon by photon

2. The second is that Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle that is formed by the wave function is the same uncertainty we have with any future event.

[oktal3700]

@nickharvey7 Does your theory make any predictions about the universe that can be tested by experiment?

[TigerJohny555]

"In the begging there was nothing. Somehow out of this nothing came everything."

Very scientific!!!  lol.

[DaSkinnyApe]

who's the guy talking at 01:28?

[crab0309]

dont turn this to religion as religion is only ONLY the fear of death and so u make up reasons for this. the act of observation creating reality and we are but experiencing our selfs in different forms because we are all one just divided meaning we are only manipulating ourselves but we control ourselfs always moving would this mean to keep all minds in sync would we all be sending signals to each others minds to tell them where we are so they can see us or do they already know

[Rowsick22]

I don't understand why there is such a divide between this, the science, and the religious aspect. The answer to the paradox "Can god make a rock that even he can't lift?" is that god doesn't "lift" at all. We only portray "God" as human in order to understand it better. God is in that realm beyond time and space. God IS consciousness. It's amazing. Science, in my mind, has proven the existence of God.

[MrOpenGamer]

This is religion in disguise.

[Fazedlight]

@MrOpenGamer

I'd say it's moreso that religions incorporate this <.<

[MrOpenGamer]

@Fazedlight

A good analogy.

[ConradPino]

Entertaining metaphysics (philosophy) with near zero physics (science) content.

[menchiiscute1]

The song in the background is VERY annoying and distracting!

[MultiDarkenergy]

@trillby1 its not if you believe in it, its if you observe it

[MultiDarkenergy]

@trillby1

[szmako]

So the tsunami in Japan has not happened recently until some conscious beings observed it! That is ridiculous! If a wild animal is running towards me and I close my eyes it isn't running towards me any more!!!? XDDDDDD

[Fazedlight]

@szmako

Ah but you still think it's there, don't you?

[qwertasdf880]

justin bieber WILL EXPLAIN THIS SHITTTT !!!!!

[sariglenn]

no one really understands q.m. all they know is particles behave diff when observed. and scientists still cant be sure if its the measuring device influencing the particle. we really dont know what the particles is doing because we cant observe it. so we need to do 2 things. observe a particle w/out destroying the interference pattern or find a way to trick a particle in to thinking its not being observed. then wil we really know whats going on.

[szmako]

"The non-locality of quantum particles happens only at the quantum level, not with ordinary sized objects. The collapse of the wave-nature to the particle-nature is not caused by human consciousness, but the physical act of observation (i.e., the light photons interacting with the wave-particle system."

[rockthecityatnight]

Interesting video. Not sure I agree with all the spiritual musings but still very interesting.

[PrittX]

Hmm, I have one question. If there is a murder and 100 years have passed. Observing that murder happened doesn't CREATE the murder, right?

If we talk about quantum level and observing, the view that things only appear when we observe them might change in the future. I don't know that much but my guess is that the way we measure something is the real problem.

[tatsumakisempyukaku]

@PrittX I used struggle with this all da time. How I got over this was by realizing that there are different rules for different dimensions. ie, would te rules of euclidian geometry work in your back yard? Practically yes, but technically no cuz that geometry deals with 2-dimensions. We, who live in 3-d abide by different rules. At the quantum level, it's my belief we encountered a new dimension of which tue physics we live by do not apply wholly. A new set of rules must be found.

[tatsumakisempyukaku]

@PrittX Some ppl have used the quantum world to show that there is no logic, but when u see that it's a new dimension bordering our own and abides by different rules becuz it's very ontological makeup varies, then it's easy to accept some of these weird conclusions. That said, what occurs at the quantum level when we observe it is one rule of that world, but as far as I know there's no such rule at our dimension. I do concede that there must be something that unifies these dimensions

[PrittX]

@tatsumakisempyukaku hmm, i'm not sure if i understand your answer. If there was a murder 100 years ago and we still find the remains, we are not creating the murder but simply observing, right? I'm pretty sure i don't completely understand this measurement problem. Also it seems that other people have the same problem.

[tatsumakisempyukaku]

@PrittX i don't believe that the experts interpret this observation prob as our observation creating the murder. that kind of creating only occurs at the quantum level. but i do see your point, what's stopping it from being that way? as far as i can tell, you cant apply the rules of one dimension to another. ie the shortest route between 2 points is a straight line, but thats true only in 2D, on earth there ae no straight lines, there are only curves for we live in 3D

[tatsumakisempyukaku]

@PrittX at any rate you should check out some videos on youtube by searching Dr. Quantum. They're cartoons that i just found by a quantum physicist Fred Alan wolf(e) that talk about these issues and give good analogous visuals.

[phatcheck]

The Dancing Wu Li Masters is the product of an ignoramus trying to interpret quantum mechanics!

[phatcheck]

I think most of the people in this video were really high!

[itcanbecheezcaketime]

I want to smoke a joint with the guy at 7:20

The guy with the big white beard. He looked awesome. I want to pick his brain while we get stoned.

[Pageyindahouse]

the measurement problem has nothing to do with reality being a illusion, the measurement problem is physics while the other is philosophical

[itcanbecheezcaketime]

I think you totally misunderstood the video.

[Pageyindahouse]

@itcanbecheezcaketime no i didnt, the measurement problem is sub atomic particles only, then people just think that it must be true for everything like this video, the measurement problem has been proven but this in this vid has not

[itcanbecheezcaketime]

@Pageyindahouse

Isn't everything made out of sub atomic particles too? If you and I, and everything else, are made out of the same particles that also have an equally bizarre reaction when observed, what does this imply? To me, it's pretty straight-forward. But I'm still not understanding what you're trying to say.

[Pageyindahouse]

@itcanbecheezcaketime nooo, this is quantum physics, everything we see is classical physics so everything behaves differently. this only aplies to like say an electron, it is everywhere at once and that is proven but if you look at a wall it is not everywhere at once, it is in the same place, but the electrons/sub atomic particles are everywhere at once.

[Pageyindahouse]

yes, but if someone observes them they dont change they just appear to change, your brain changes them into something that you would understand but they are still really the same

[ThotherBrother]

This is the Knowledge that the World is so thirsty to taste... fear is the obstacle.

[YourBrainOnReligion]

New age woowoo garbage.

[ThotherBrother]

@YourBrainOnReligion

Don't worry, you'll get it soon enough -- because you already do, do not.

[TheSpankymonkey]

@YourBrainOnReligion - Not true at all. This is the reality of quantum physics as it stands at the moment, all of it supported enough to seperate itself from anything you could possibly call woowoo, or garbage or both. If i recall this is a bbc documentary aimed at explaining where we are to a wider audience, however none of it is nonsense.

[TheSpankymonkey]

@YourBrainOnReligion - I can see where your comment is coming from now, this seems to be a cut and paste of many different sources to bring a new age sort of "we are all connected" nonsense to it.

[3LARI]

@YourBrainOnReligion Ah, my aul pal, YourBrainOnReligion. I'm subscribed to your channel and think your videos are great!

I see what you mean, having watched the entire video. The BBC doc (Atom) though is absolutely brilliant and all factual (well... theoretically :S) but this video has David FUCKING Wilcox in it... He can fuck off for a start. Like religion, the lies and wild assumptions have been mixed with fact to create a skewed picture, but not all of it is bullshit.

[YourBrainOnReligion]

@3LARI hehe thanks 3lari :) Yes its some weird combination of legitimate and illegitimate sources... very strange indeed.

[frebel93]

so applying the logic of the measurement problem, if a try falls in a forest, it doesnt make a sound

[rad802]

The history of a black hole is written or smeared upon it's rippling surface, called the event horizon. (10-29-10)

The observable universe is just the rippling skin of the real universe.

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[rad802]

In the digital world nothing truly exist unless it exist in at least two places.

Since we have seen no time travelers, either time travel into the past is impossible or we don't have much of a future.

If there is no God than there is no such thing as success, only varying degrees of failure.

If science is to have any chance of grasping the nature of reality, it must first solve the question of how the universe wound itself up through random processes.

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[rad802]

If you are not disturbed by quantum mechanics than you are not paying attention.

If the nature of the universe is indeed digital then what the speed of light defines for us is the processor speed.

Truth will always be elusive, the very nature of reality itself is an illusion.

God is light. Light is a particle and a wave, what is waving is probability.

Which is correct spooky action at a distance or indivisible whole?

As it turns out all things are connected.

[ericbs5247]

For further study, here are some books that I have read that I would recommend: Taking the Quantum Leap, The Self Aware Universe, The Emperor's New Mind, Schroedinger's Rabbits, Quantum Enigma, A Brief History of Time, The Dancing Wu Li Masters, The Tao of Physics, Shadows of the Mind, The Physics of Consciousness, The Fabric of the Cosmos, The Elegant Universe, The Holographic Universe, Three Roads to Quantum Gravity, Programming the Universe, Hacking Matter, Wholeness and the Implicate Order

[RespectMyHate]

The scientist are really just scratching the surface when it comes to this science, and all there theories so far are all wrong.

[Daavoid]

@RespectMyHate hmmm and what are YOUR qualifications?

[serpent7700]

Man will never get hold of the quantum and the nature of subatomic particles !

[johtorn]

@serpent7700 That's what You are doing every moment of your existence. How are you using it?

[serpent7700]

@johtorn I do not understood what you are saying ?

[AveryDanger]

It is so hard to find a quantum physics video that you can actually hear!!! thank you! haha

[scwlim]

色不异空， 空不异色。

[alghoraba]

so that means if there was not a consciouse observer then we wouldn,t be here, this universe couldn,t be exist ?

[adamrspears1981]

interesting stuff, but the repeating background music is ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!

[Zarathustra4U]

I am not a scientist. I am a common sense person. This does not make sense to me. The contention is that without an observer, nothing exists. So if all life in the universe ceased to exist, the universe would cease to exist. This is scientific postulation in an attempt to prove the existence of a creator god, because something had to be, to observe, at the very beginning, for the universe to exist. Mental gymnastics to prove life made the universe. Instead of the other way around.

[davidzenbze]

the Universe was created by the "word"... the word of God. Perhaps you can say that God's word is the consciousness of the Universe.

[staytuned100mil]

I creat my own reality! Im gonna wake up tomorrow with a winning lottery ticket in my car's central console :)! Peace hommies!

[lee155912000]

This is what makes me want to be a scientist!

Too bad I'm too lazy.

[MrZpot1]

If we create everything by observing then what happens when we leave our houses and go to the store? if we are not observing our houses then will our house disapear?? NO!

you see its true that we do create what we observe but what if we dont observe something, will it still be there. YES it will! Why?? Because there is another observer. WHO?? GOD the omnipotent being who controls & observes & sustains everything! The Big Bang is nothing more than God begining to observe the universe.

[MrZpot1]

@MrZpot1...This is why its completly retarted to be an athiest. Because scienctist have aleady discoverd that you cant have a universe unless you have a mind shaping and forming the uviverse (& thats a proven FACT!) Now you dumb evolutionist think the big bang happend & life didnt apear for billions of years! if there is no life then there is no mind, & if there is no mind then there is no universe cuz the mind is shaping the universe! its impossible for evolution to be true!

[MrZpot1]

@MrZpot1 ... Somebody should tell this to that dumb fuck Richard Dawkins. Because it will fuck up his whole evolution theory bulshit

[vman456]

@MrZpot1

You're an idiot. Seriously.

1) Dawkins did not give birth to evolutionary theory.

2) You don't understand QM

[MrZpot1]

@vman456

1)Bitch first of all I didn't say anything about dawkins Creating the evolution theory.. That was you, so YOUR the idiot, not me.

2) I didn't make that up. That was from the mouth of a certified Quantum Physist, Not me. So dont Be mad becuase You Believe something Completely stupid.

3) Your a dumb pussy boy idiot that believes His Great Great Great Great Great ect. Granpa was chemical soup that came from a rock Billions of years ago.

And I'm the idiot??? wow

[vman456]

@MrZpot1

1) "Somebody should tell this to that dumb fuck Richard Dawkins. Because it will fuck up his whole evolution theory bulshit"

Your words, not mine, asshole.

2) Yes, and so he must be right? Do you understand that a lot of scientists have conflicting views? Are they all right or are they all wrong? You have the most idiotic logic...

3) Yes, I'm a dumb pussy boy. How can you claim to be so knowledgeable and yet act like such an asshole using childish insults? Go pick up a science text.

[MrZpot1]

@vman456

1) Yes It would fuck up his whole evolution theory. But I didnt say HE CREATED THE EVOLUTION THEORY. Thats what you said that I said, although I didnt say that you wierdo.

2)Yeah true lot of scientist have conflicting views, but any QUANTUM PHYSIST will tell you that is the truth. The observer is creating that witch is being observed. Maybe you should pick up the TEXT BOOK.

[MrZpot1]

@vman456

3) My logic is screwed? Im not the one stuck in my stupid beliefs and putting words in people mouths and scolding them for stuff they didnt even say.

4) Im an asshole to you? YOU called me an idiot in YOUR first reply. And I'm The idoit?? Think about it. I wasnt even talking tou you I was just trying to explain something. But here you come being a dumb athiest trapped in your silly belief system trying to get people to believe your dumb logic

[MrZpot1]

@vman456 5) I can do this all day pussy LOL!. You better know what the fuck your going up against before you find yourself looking stupid on Youtube

[vman456]

@MrZpot1

I'm not an atheist you dumb cunt. Not only are you fucking retarded but you're also a hypocrite (putting words in others' mouths).

You've made a huge fool of yourself here already, now shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself any further, "pussy boy" (lol)

[MrZpot1]

@vman456 So wait... Your not an athiest? Really? Well Damn! Why didn't you say so!!!! I thought you were an athiest!!!! Ok I take everything back that I said I'm sorry ;) You're cool! Praise GOD!

[xmelodyx3]

@vman456

I was minding my own business, reading all the comments following this video and was pleasantly surprised (freaked out) to see your post. I know we're meant to meet one day, just so you know. (lol)

[smihai81]

It's all bullshit, the big bang and the quantum physics are only religion disguised as science, they all tend to sugest the ideea "I am god, I create the universe, the mind creates the univers, the univers obeys the mind". Well, if the univers obeys the mind, then what is there left to be discovered, haw can we learn something new if we command the universe, haw can we be surprized by something unknown ?

[Nospoon53189]

@smihai81

they are not suggesting you are god. they just want to explain the world see how its works, what it is, why it is. we aren't creating the universe we are just intercepting it.

[DavidsIllustrations]

A is A

[rsl4yt]

This music is so fucking annoying! It could at least be more quiet.

[ericbs5247]

You are both missing the point of "the measurement problem". Quantum physics describes a universe that is not deterministic. Probability waves evolve deterministically, but their collapse into a single locality upon conscious observation is a discontinuous process...meaning an element of randomness is introduced. It is impossible to determine the location and momentum of any particle with certainty because it doesn't have a location or momentum until it is observed. Randomness = Free will.

[cheeseandchocolate26]

@ericbs5247 I was under the impression that Bohm's theory gave us a way of measuring what happens when there is an observer - you can use Schrodinger's equation normally, and then Bohm's when it's observed. It's like, if you don't think Schrodinger's equation can explain everything, the measurement problem vanishes.

I think - I could be wrong. I'm still learning about all of this.

[BoofheadsUp]

@ericbs5247 Randomness does not equal free will. Don't just to conclusions because they are desirable. If "someone" is rolling a dice to determine your fate you are not free. You are at the mercy of chance.

[6FiftySix]

Randomness does not equal free will. I do not understand where people are pulling this idea from. If a situation develops because I choose to allow it to, then that is not random. It's like the darts metaphor. So many people have used a dart board as an example of random probability, but the chances of hitting a specific spot on a dart board are not random. And the reason for that is because we have free will. When we throw a dart we don't close our eyes and just let go of it, we aim.

[masterman3178]

@ericbs5247 can u explain some of this to me because as good and smart in the ways of physics as i may be i can not grasp this at all. when they say we create our own reality what do they mean. does this mean like if a metor hits the moon it happened but if i did not see it then it did not. i get some part like how particals are connected and where all connected but i just dont get how we create our own reality.

[ericbs5247]

@masterman3178 "creating your own reality" is an attention grabbing term. The key to the concept is that all of what we perceive to be reality exists as probability waves until the wave is measured by a conscious being via sense organs. Upon measurement by a conscious being the probability waves collapse into particles. The world of particles is thus created by an act of observation. Therefore, we have created reality simply by observing it. Read "Taking the Quantum Leap" by Fred Alan Wolf.

[masterman3178]

@ericbs5247 ok so pretty much its a if a tree falls in the woods does it make a sound kinda thing. somthing can not exist until we phycally observe it our selves and ill have to check out that book im always up for a good read. right now im reading michio kakus phyics of the impossable. This quantum physics is pretty confusing at times. Funny how i can grasp this stuff but still cant manage to spell worth shit lol.

[knowbody74]

@masterman3178

if a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to see or hear it. does it make a sound? this ideas says there is only a tree there if someone is there to need it to be there.if your not there.how does it matter in ur reality?

[masterman3178]

@knowbody74 it does not matter in my reality but thats not to say the tree was not there and it did fall and make a sound. it still did i am just not aware of it unless some outside source tells me so or i see it myself but that fact that the though is not in my brain does not mean it did not happen but i guess more of the point is that it did happen but if im not aware and some one else is then we both have diffrent views on reality thus making each persons view of reality different.

[chrisofnottingham]

@ericbs5247 "Randomness = Free will"

When a person believes they are exercising freewill they don't feel it to be random, they feel it to be a personal deliberate choice eg I choose to study Biology at University. This highlights the free will dilemma; the experience of freewill is that it is neither random or predetermined. But what other options are there? This leads me to conclude that freewill is probably an illusory effect caused by the brain, like emotions.

[SleepyDario]

@Ham549, yup, you just described a deterministic universe. That's the kind of universe we live in, although we do have free will. It's a little difficult to explain.

[Ham549]

Schrödinger's cat You don't need to look to see if the cat is alive or dead if you can do the math you can figure it out as well as the future of the universe but since each participial has it's own complex equations the math problem is as large as the universe it's self