more like samurai disarm bro. no offence meant man. that overhead strike is purely samurai, and the actions following the initial strike aren't meant to show the ability of the attacker, but more the move the defender needs to take. ya, its not entirely realistic. but it isn't meant to be one. its just showing a disarm technique of an overhead strike with a katana. ya, it would turn out different if he fought back, but that isn't the point. so ease up trolls, seriously.
This video is laughable first off a ninja is not going to do an over head strike. Second ninja's are tactical they will not run up on soldier like this clown is demonstrating. to clarify what a ninja would do is sneak up on someone with his shuriken drenched in poison and finsih you off making follow up combat easier
I have faced a lot of swordsmen and, with all due respects, this will not work on someone who knows something about distances. And a proper cutting technique with a katana.
Something similar can be done with a knife, where it is more practical :)
my friend, I don´t wanted to offend you. what I wanted to mean with what I wrote is that this tecnic don´t work against I guy who knows how to use a sword. You and your friend were too close, and a man with a sword would not let you get that close. To fight a man handing a sword, you should try a gun.
if that was a real ninja he would have broke his arm as soon as it came at him AND THEN HE WOULD ELBOW HIS NOZE AND THAT WOULD BLIND YOU IF YOUR LUCKY ENOUGH TO SERVVE THAT THEN HE WILL THEN KICK YOU IN THE GROYN AND SLICE YOUR NECK WHEN YOU CULAPS TO THE GROUND I'M IN NINJUTSU I KNOW THIS WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A WAR INTHUSIEST THAT DOES NOT LIKE NINJA'S AND DESIDED TO PUT A FAKE LAME ASS NINJA UP AGAINST A GUY WITH ELITE ARMY FIGHTING SKILL'S TO MAKE NINJAS SEEM LAME PEOPLE LIKE THAT PISS ME OFF
@SlyAsPie like i said in the message you learn his fighting style and i'll prove a ninja would win and be home in time for sushi im only a red belt in ninjutsu but it should be more then enough to kick your ass !
No I don't think this would work, For one, your not fighting a real ninja for two They would do a judu throw if you grabbed their arm and then stab you therefore killing you
Mistwraith is right. The swordsman stepped in past his effective minimum striking range. The technique could work, but only if the user is already coming forward at a good clip before the sword is swung. And if my opponent is charging me, I'd probably start my cut a bit before they come in range to compensate. Not a useful technique.
More practical would be to intercept the wrist and try to remove the sword as a factor in the fight, especially since you don't need to kill yourself to do it.
@KhaneFlarios I know a lot about swords and ninjas that wouldn't work either, one that would work is to run at them(Note that I have tried this on a real ninja,he was using a bamboo sword)silde then trip them and while they are off guard take the sword and stab them and wulla you now can say you've defeted a ninja(This won't work if they litterly have lightning fast reflexs-Seriously I mean lighting fast-Or if your at a really far distance or if your wearing shorts XD)
What aikido practitioners and fake ninjas don't realise is that swordsmen have this annoying tendancy to use their sword properly.
I've seen countless disarm techniques and the only ones that work finish before the sword moves on it's cutting path. All other techniques don't work at full speed with a resisting opponant (they're useless).
This disarm video shoes a problem inherent in a lot of disarms, or at least practice disarms. If you look closely at the first swing, you'll see that if the guy on the left hadn't done anything, he would've been punched in the fact rather than cut with the blade. A proper appreciation of distance by the swordsman makes this significantly harder to do.
Had there been more distance the ninja would not have tried that disarm. Also when is the swordsman supposed to be punching when he got hit in nose or when he's kneed repeatedly in the chest?
You're missing my point. I say the swordsman was too close to execute that move; had the ninja not moved, the blade would not have struck anything - the swordsman's hands would have ineffectually punched the ninja in the forehead instead. A shallower strike or simply an upwards stab would have been far more logical.
Since any decent swordsman would not use this strike at such short range, and the ninja would not use this counter at longer range - when is this supposed to be used?
At the very beginning of the video you can see they are both outside each others circles Then they both move in. Now the swords man takes a bigger step than necessary that is true but had the ninja not moved he would of been got with the blade.
What do you mean by "they are both outside each other's circles"? From my perspective, the swordsman didn't need to step at all - a simple extension of the arms would have placed the blade in the ninja's face. He most certainly did not need to swing the blade up behind his head while stepping into the ninja's unarmed range; doing so is an open invitation to be hit.
What martial art do you practice/study? A circle is the area budoka can attack and defend in, two budoka cannot attack each other until their circles overlap. There in no school of kendo or kenjutsu that would attack from those distances without a step forward. With out the step the swing would be wesk and leave the swordsman open and off balance.
I'm a Western swordsman with experience in modern fencing, medieval rapier, sword and shield, and German longsword. I'll admit that I don't have experience with the katana, but I find the swordsman's strike improbable and ineffective.
If that is an accepted method and distance for striking, especially against an unarmoured opponent, my faith in Eastern swordsmanship is significantly undermined. Bringing the sword back that far leaves the swordsman's entire front open to any sort of counter.
I think I just realised a point of confusion between us. While the swordsman could have reached the ninja without taking a step, I agree that for any strength in the blow he would have needed to step forwards. What I think he did wrong, and what allowed the counter to work, is that he brought his hands all the way behind his head and left himself wide open. It's not necessary to cleave your opponent from head to navel to kill / incapacitate them; a flick to the head is safer and still dangerous.
He did do that part wrong he should have brought his hand up that high but he should not of bent his wrists back like that he should have not gone any father back than where the blade is parallel to the ground. What allowed the counter to work is that the were showing off this counter in the field there are hundreds of different ways this could go. An overhead chop is rarely aimed at the head do to its shape and hardness of the bone most hits there are only inconvenient unlikely to incapacitate.
nigger's holding sword by the blade, I wonder if he would do that in reality. Also, good luck in finding not even ninja alone, but a ninja who gets in range of bare hands to attack with the blade.
I'll agree that the swords man in this vid pulled back to far and if the video was teaching sword tech it would be a problem. Its showing the disarm move. As for the swords man his arms ar in the right position but he's not supposes to bend the wrists back like that. When you pull back for an overhead chop the sword is supposed to be parallel to the ground.
it was cool till you took the sword and made it all look shitty.
EpicEffinTom 1 month ago
more like samurai disarm bro. no offence meant man. that overhead strike is purely samurai, and the actions following the initial strike aren't meant to show the ability of the attacker, but more the move the defender needs to take. ya, its not entirely realistic. but it isn't meant to be one. its just showing a disarm technique of an overhead strike with a katana. ya, it would turn out different if he fought back, but that isn't the point. so ease up trolls, seriously.
hawaiipride7 5 months ago
LOL - lammest disarm ever! - Keep trying pal! rofl
lksgib 7 months ago
This video is laughable first off a ninja is not going to do an over head strike. Second ninja's are tactical they will not run up on soldier like this clown is demonstrating. to clarify what a ninja would do is sneak up on someone with his shuriken drenched in poison and finsih you off making follow up combat easier
darkness442003 8 months ago
Shame that you'd never see the ninja coming at you...
MonkeyMan0002 1 year ago
I have faced a lot of swordsmen and, with all due respects, this will not work on someone who knows something about distances. And a proper cutting technique with a katana.
Something similar can be done with a knife, where it is more practical :)
Ygor45 1 year ago
@Ygor45 agreed, well said.
Tabygrl 1 year ago
@Ygor45 you are right. nobody with a bit of experience would try to cut going this close to the opponent.
delirio1987 8 months ago
His opponent was clearly not a ninja as he was visible. ;)
JarboeJo 1 year ago
What if a ninja chooses to attack sideways or throws a shuriken at you? then what happens??
30secondstomarsfan00 1 year ago
um the counter to that would be called a gun
rnzero9 1 year ago
This will come in handy when the ninjas attack
MrLazyeyedsniper 1 year ago
my friend, I don´t wanted to offend you. what I wanted to mean with what I wrote is that this tecnic don´t work against I guy who knows how to use a sword. You and your friend were too close, and a man with a sword would not let you get that close. To fight a man handing a sword, you should try a gun.
wander834 1 year ago
allso thats nothing but a sisy with a sword not a ninja
snoopdoggXL 1 year ago
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wander834 1 year ago
@wander834 Kendo?...... KENDO? are you fucling serious? omfg kendo
SlyAsPie 1 year ago
yeaaaaa
toro1 1 year ago
if that was a real ninja he would have broke his arm as soon as it came at him AND THEN HE WOULD ELBOW HIS NOZE AND THAT WOULD BLIND YOU IF YOUR LUCKY ENOUGH TO SERVVE THAT THEN HE WILL THEN KICK YOU IN THE GROYN AND SLICE YOUR NECK WHEN YOU CULAPS TO THE GROUND I'M IN NINJUTSU I KNOW THIS WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A WAR INTHUSIEST THAT DOES NOT LIKE NINJA'S AND DESIDED TO PUT A FAKE LAME ASS NINJA UP AGAINST A GUY WITH ELITE ARMY FIGHTING SKILL'S TO MAKE NINJAS SEEM LAME PEOPLE LIKE THAT PISS ME OFF
snoopdoggXL 1 year ago
@snoopdoggXL lol you're clearly just some kid who knows fuck all about ninjistu please leave retarded comments like that to yourself! jesus...
SlyAsPie 1 year ago
@SlyAsPie like i said in the message you learn his fighting style and i'll prove a ninja would win and be home in time for sushi im only a red belt in ninjutsu but it should be more then enough to kick your ass !
snoopdoggXL 1 year ago
@SlyAsPie that kid has the most horrific spelling. Culaps.
ManOnTheMoon42 1 month ago
@snoopdoggXL nice spelling...
Vadion12 1 year ago
BTW with a sword you can keep your oponent on distance, so you have to be a looser to let disarm yourself
Verithiell 1 year ago
when if they make other strike? like one from the side. Then you have no chance :P
Verithiell 1 year ago
Those are all VERY long comments down there...Epic video
boredcorpse 1 year ago
No I don't think this would work, For one, your not fighting a real ninja for two They would do a judu throw if you grabbed their arm and then stab you therefore killing you
Emil3411 1 year ago
Mistwraith is right. The swordsman stepped in past his effective minimum striking range. The technique could work, but only if the user is already coming forward at a good clip before the sword is swung. And if my opponent is charging me, I'd probably start my cut a bit before they come in range to compensate. Not a useful technique.
More practical would be to intercept the wrist and try to remove the sword as a factor in the fight, especially since you don't need to kill yourself to do it.
KhaneFlarios 1 year ago
@KhaneFlarios I know a lot about swords and ninjas that wouldn't work either, one that would work is to run at them(Note that I have tried this on a real ninja,he was using a bamboo sword)silde then trip them and while they are off guard take the sword and stab them and wulla you now can say you've defeted a ninja(This won't work if they litterly have lightning fast reflexs-Seriously I mean lighting fast-Or if your at a really far distance or if your wearing shorts XD)
Emil3411 1 year ago
What aikido practitioners and fake ninjas don't realise is that swordsmen have this annoying tendancy to use their sword properly.
I've seen countless disarm techniques and the only ones that work finish before the sword moves on it's cutting path. All other techniques don't work at full speed with a resisting opponant (they're useless).
ihaterobbie123 1 year ago
lol
the song is called "rings of uranus"
GodzillahGodzilla 2 years ago
This disarm video shoes a problem inherent in a lot of disarms, or at least practice disarms. If you look closely at the first swing, you'll see that if the guy on the left hadn't done anything, he would've been punched in the fact rather than cut with the blade. A proper appreciation of distance by the swordsman makes this significantly harder to do.
Mistwraith99 2 years ago
Had there been more distance the ninja would not have tried that disarm. Also when is the swordsman supposed to be punching when he got hit in nose or when he's kneed repeatedly in the chest?
0The0Mad0Hatter0 2 years ago
You're missing my point. I say the swordsman was too close to execute that move; had the ninja not moved, the blade would not have struck anything - the swordsman's hands would have ineffectually punched the ninja in the forehead instead. A shallower strike or simply an upwards stab would have been far more logical.
Since any decent swordsman would not use this strike at such short range, and the ninja would not use this counter at longer range - when is this supposed to be used?
Mistwraith99 2 years ago
At the very beginning of the video you can see they are both outside each others circles Then they both move in. Now the swords man takes a bigger step than necessary that is true but had the ninja not moved he would of been got with the blade.
0The0Mad0Hatter0 2 years ago
What do you mean by "they are both outside each other's circles"? From my perspective, the swordsman didn't need to step at all - a simple extension of the arms would have placed the blade in the ninja's face. He most certainly did not need to swing the blade up behind his head while stepping into the ninja's unarmed range; doing so is an open invitation to be hit.
Mistwraith99 2 years ago
What martial art do you practice/study? A circle is the area budoka can attack and defend in, two budoka cannot attack each other until their circles overlap. There in no school of kendo or kenjutsu that would attack from those distances without a step forward. With out the step the swing would be wesk and leave the swordsman open and off balance.
0The0Mad0Hatter0 2 years ago
I'm a Western swordsman with experience in modern fencing, medieval rapier, sword and shield, and German longsword. I'll admit that I don't have experience with the katana, but I find the swordsman's strike improbable and ineffective.
If that is an accepted method and distance for striking, especially against an unarmoured opponent, my faith in Eastern swordsmanship is significantly undermined. Bringing the sword back that far leaves the swordsman's entire front open to any sort of counter.
Mistwraith99 2 years ago
I think I just realised a point of confusion between us. While the swordsman could have reached the ninja without taking a step, I agree that for any strength in the blow he would have needed to step forwards. What I think he did wrong, and what allowed the counter to work, is that he brought his hands all the way behind his head and left himself wide open. It's not necessary to cleave your opponent from head to navel to kill / incapacitate them; a flick to the head is safer and still dangerous.
Mistwraith99 2 years ago
He did do that part wrong he should have brought his hand up that high but he should not of bent his wrists back like that he should have not gone any father back than where the blade is parallel to the ground. What allowed the counter to work is that the were showing off this counter in the field there are hundreds of different ways this could go. An overhead chop is rarely aimed at the head do to its shape and hardness of the bone most hits there are only inconvenient unlikely to incapacitate.
0The0Mad0Hatter0 2 years ago
nigger's holding sword by the blade, I wonder if he would do that in reality. Also, good luck in finding not even ninja alone, but a ninja who gets in range of bare hands to attack with the blade.
cheers mate
drwaluOFczwimpix 2 years ago
and why would an attacker facing an unarmed man draw back hard enough to go through a block? So he can get punched in the face?
KyngKaos 2 years ago
I'll agree that the swords man in this vid pulled back to far and if the video was teaching sword tech it would be a problem. Its showing the disarm move. As for the swords man his arms ar in the right position but he's not supposes to bend the wrists back like that. When you pull back for an overhead chop the sword is supposed to be parallel to the ground.
0The0Mad0Hatter0 2 years ago
meh
theriguy95 2 years ago
pretty cool
eXtectiX 2 years ago