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  • so this is a REAL troll

  • Righteous bro!

  • Song Name?

  • @berserkfootball lmao dude in know

    year 1 of ps3

    WE GOT RESISTANCE1

    Year 2 of ps3

    WE GOT R&C, MOTORSTORM, HEAVENLY SWORD, UC1

    Year 3 of PS3

    WE GOT MGS 4, LBP, RESISTANCE 2 AND VALKRIA CHRNCICLES

    Year 4 of PS3

    WE GOT KZ2, INFAMOUS, UC2 AND R&C

    All 360 got is gears and halo! I feel so sorry 4 them

  • it was about sales with PS2...

  • the decision over which system is better is and will always be nothing more than opinion

  • I came up with a great idea. Why don't all of you people arguing over which system is better, put down the controller. Put away your webcam and stop making videos. Go out and find a nice girl to hook up with. Its amazing how getting a girlfriend could stop all of this obsessive nagging about which gaming system is better. There is no better system. People are going to like PS3 over 360, and you will always find people going for 360 over the PS3. Who really gives a shit ? really ??? grow up

  • Sales don't mean shit unless you are Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo. Otherwise any fanboy that talks about sales just fail. Consumers aren't affected by sales. So why should we care about them fanboys?

  • yeah, its about games... and the ps3 doesnt have many

  • @shanetm oh ps3 dont have many games i4got...so whats

    uc1 and 2, kz2, r1 and 2, mgs 4, infamous, r&c, lbp, folklore, valkyria chronicles......nah ps3 aint got games!

    oh yes 360 does have a lot of games....but other than halo, gears of war and probably l4d and crackdown what else did u enjoy?

    its bout quality not quantity!

  • I know, Gameinformer is always showing that 360 has higher sales, but that means nothing. Ps3 is the best gaming system out right now, and it has nothing to do with sales.

  • only crap game the ps3 has is socom because some asshole psp producers made it. and fucked it up

  • A lot of people say the 360 has more sales but how many of those sales are because of broken 360s? I love how fanboys don't mention that. I mean I like the 360, Love halo 3. But I bought my ps3 when the 360 was all buggy. Loving it but yea.

  • Its about both Sales and quality. To microsoft to the gamers in your opinion its about the games which is what you want. Microsoft is still getting alot of money lol in the end thats what all companies care about so they have to make good games. i personally think The 360 is winning this thing i have both consoles. The 360 is just selling more and in total gaining more money No matter what all these videos talk about.I only play LBP on the ps3 only original game they have.. :( sad to say tho

  • lil wayne aint shit. when was he dubbed the best rapper? never. he's the one who considers himself to be the best. he aint the best rapper if all he talks about is himself.

  • no because he calls himself the best rapper alive, lil wayne is garbage, also Eminem is still considered the best rapper unfortunately, and how can console owners suck at gaming over console sales, in that case xbox players suck too because they can't keep up with the Wii, Gaming has nothing to do with sales on any console but thats all 360 fanboys ever talk about is the sales of a console. Play games and stop worrying about numbers so got damn much

  • Numbers? OK NUMBERS? NUMBERS matter like when you throw a LAN party how many people mention PS3? oh yea lil wayne sucks.. I was just using him as an example. What you mean keep up with the Wii? At least Wii gamers play competively over LAN Ps3 only good online. I play games I got a Ps3. Its nothging but a really good dvd player I got killzone I got I'm getting god of war 3 but it cant match the xbox 360s playability.

  • EMINEM's way better than that self-proclaimed rapper you call lil wayne

  • And we dont give a fuck!!!!!!!! cuz you guys suck at gaming.. cant compete at shit!

  • wat bout 9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18

    YEAH WE STILL HAVE HALO AND GEARS LOL

  • SONY

    wins in sales also.

  • wrong get your facts write!

  • Am I missing somthing involving free Playstation Network? I can understand why Microsoft Charges £40 a year, it is to support the online system. If the Playstation Network is not being charged. Then what is supporting the online system?

  • xbox4ever, once again you show an ignorant stupid son of a bitch you are

  • oh wow

  • The playstation 3 actually has a better sales performance than the xbox 360. Right now the xbox 360 sold 29 million units whereas the playstation 3 sold 21 million units. If you subtract 10 million away from 29 million units, the xbox 360 would've sold up to 19 million units today. Why 10 million? Because that is how many the system sold in its first year before the wii and playstation 3 came out. If it was released at the same time as the other consoles, it would've been last in the sales rank.

  • LOOOOOOOOOOL

  • Thanks for the lovely comment

  • Not playstation 2 and not playstation websites. Just playstation network which is on playstation 3.

  • @nshamas it covers the ps2 ps3 pc 1 pcgame psp and psp go

  • No.

  • Hella Yea, respects to this man =P

  • Killzone 2 is just an fps yes, but that's like saying halo 3 is just another fps. See what I'm saying? Killzone 2 is more than what it seems. It's the kind of game that shows what's never been shown before in a fps game (watch some reviews if you don't get its uniqeness). If you don't like it, fine, but don't knock it.

  • I saw and read plenty of reviews for Killzone 2 let me sum up what they said is it an above average FPS yes. Is it groundbreaking and revolutionary no.  Unless I missed something please tell me how it is different from any other FPS. Also the PS3's version of RE5 has already outsold Killzone 2 so it really can't be that amazing.

  • It has a deep multiplayer, the levels are larger and chaotic, smarter ai's, graphics and probably more.

    For resident evil 5, maybe the series is more popular which got more sales. Just because one game outsells another doesn't mean it's better. Apparently resident evil 5 isn't as good as the previous game, half if its reviews it got 9s and the other half 8s.

  • OK that's still nothing revolutionary or something that hasn't been done before. RE5 is good when you play it single player and great when you play it co-op. On of the key feature I look for when I play a game is that it has a great musical score and besides the Halo series all FPS have forgettable or non-existing music. As a matter of fact the original Doom has better music then most of today's FPS.

  • Sure killzone 2 is not revolutionary, but it definitely improves on the standards that have been set, thus its an evolution in FPS gaming.

    Resident evil 5 is good but not groundbreaking.

  • Well Resident Evil 5 might not be groundbreaking but the series as a whole is legendary something that I doubt will ever happen to the Killzone series.

  • "something that I doubt will ever happen to the Killzone series" - you

    No need to be blunt. There was no need for you to mention that. There are people who own the game you know.

  • I'm just saying I doubt that there will ever be Killzone novels, movies, comic books, fan clubs, soundtracks, action figures, fan sites etc. etc. like their are with Resident Evil.

  • Well if the next killzone game becomes another hit then the series could prove itself worthy enough to become a franchise. Even though the first killzone game was bad, sequals could make up for it.

    But of course it won't be as big as the halo series, not for a long time anyway.

  • @chrishu76 Omg hat r u a fucking nerd! comic books, novels movies.....get a fucking life.

    360 fanboys= nerds!

  • You call me a nerd yet you have gamerboy in your Youtube account name. I'm pretty sure you need a life more then I do. At least I don't reply to nine month old comments.

  • Sony is not killing anyone at anything that's why they are in last place. Sales matter moron guess you never heard of the Dreamcast it was a great system but it died because it generated no sales.

  • they dont have to be in the lead to be killing microsoft and FYI the dreamcast failed because of the playstation learn your gaming history

  • You are the one that needs to learn your gaming history because you don't even know why the 360 was released early.

  • common sense is this the PS3 was announced way before the 360 was even mentioned and of course microsoft didn't want the x box to die so they rushed out a "next gen " console that was supposed to be so freakin amazing yet what they failed to mention was that you were going to buy a machine that was so piss poor that it would most likely fail within a year, It takes time to make a great system and why you think they keep pushing out new models... Because they didn't get it right the first time

  • You fail on all point's and you don't know shit.

  • Also like most fanboy's you pull your info out of you ass instead of actually doing some research. All the stuff you just said is 100% BS pulled fresh out of your ass.

  • and like most dickheads you don't know how to accept peoples opinions so you waste your time by going on peoples pages who give out their opinons on consoles and bash what they have to say, I love the ps3, I like the wii, and I detest the 360 for all the right reasons so if you don't like my opinions on the matter then why are you watching in the first place?

  • I watch your videos to see how much of a moron you are and how full of BS you are. You can hate the 360's all you want but the FACT is that it is doing a lot better then the PS3, both in console and software sales. Another fact is that sales do matter. Tekken 6, FFXIII and many other titles going multi platform pretty much proofs my point.

  • thanks for the lovely comments :D

  • No problem and the FACT is that the original X-Box was such a failure that it actually managed to outsell the GameCube and the Dreamcast made by two companies that made consoles for almost twenty years before MS enters the market LOL.

  • He is right about microsoft rushing the system to get more sales. This just shows that microsoft doesn't care about consumers like you. They just have the desire to beat sony.

  • @andyswVids sure keep on believing in fairy tales and opinions of fanboys but the FACT is that the 360 was rushed into production because of a bad business deal between NVIDIA and Microsoft, which lead to NVIDIA ceasing production of the GPU for the original X-Box on August 2005 which meant Microsoft no longer had one of the key parts needed in making the X-Box.

  • Thanks again for the lovely comment :D

  • If you think that Sony cares more about their costumers then Microsoft then your dreaming. Let's see it took a class action lawsuit against Sony before they addressed the DRE issue that plagued the PS2. Microsoft on the other hand offered a three year warranty to all 360 owners as soon as the RROD problem became widespread no lawsuit needed.

  • Thanks again for the lovely comment :D

  • I can't believe you untily uo give me some source.

    Anyways, what is your problem with the playstation brand?

  • Their is nothing wrong with the playstation band except that Sony screwed up big time when the launched the console at $599 US they should have stuck with the $299 price point that they had with the PS1, PS2 and Sony would be ahead of the Wii right now. Also Sony sold most of their PS1's and PS2's when the price was under $199US and that's a price point the PS3 can never reach because it is full of too many expensive parts. Also why should I give you a source is it too hard to use Google.

  • Expensive yes, but you pay more for the xbox 360 anyways (console + wireless adaptor, xbox live, rechargable kit, and so on).

  • Not really it depends on what you need. Wired>wireless, DVD's are a lot cheaper then blu-ray disc's, rechargeable batteries are dirt cheap and useful for other devices, etc, etc. For my needs which is playing games the 360 is a lot cheaper then a PS3.

  • Dvds can only store up to 9gb where as bluray is 25-50gb. With dvds developers have a limit of 9gb, but compared to bluray developers are given the opportunity to expand technology. Like killzone 2. Without bluray, the game wouldn't be possible. Both xbox 360 and playstation 3 games cost the same.

    I don't think the xbox 360 battery kit is that cheap, they're around £15 - £20.

    The xbox 360 is cheaper yes, but the system is not going to get playstation 3 games that you're interested in.

  • The only PS3 game I'm interested in is Gran Turismo 5 and that will not come out until 2010 or even 2011. By that time their will be a better (45nm) and cheaper PS3. Battery charger with 4 AA can be bought for less then $10US where I live. Disc space is overrated. RE4 which is still one of the best games this decade is less then 3GB. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess for the GC is less then 1.5 GB.

  • You can still get the other gran turismo game on the playstation 3, but I don't know the difference between this and 5, so take it or leave it.

    AA batteries are cheap yes, but why would anyone want to go out just to buy one and use it on the controller? Wouldn't it be easier if you just plug it in and charge it? You can do that with the battery kit, but that's going to cost you an extra £15.

    With disk space, it depends on the game itself. Games like killzone 2 are made to deliver

  • experience no other console can. The game is like 40gb large and without bluray, killzone 2 wouldn't exist. The extra space is there just to broaden the experience.

  • I hate you god damn console fanboys, there is really no reason to justify your console choice. Play your god damn games and shut up. How the fuck are exclusives important in gaming? Does it matter? No. Graphics mean shit as long as it runs smooth with the graphics given it shouldn't matter.

    Here's the single most important thing in gaming: Fun. Knowing that your hardware is superior is not fun. Having slightly better graphics is not fun. Having better sales is not fun.

  • the xbox 360 only has like 4 or 5?

  • does this consle wars ever get? old people been fighting over the same shit for nothing for the last 4 to 5 years,give it up!

  • to crataus

    blue ray...thats it?!

    dude ps3 games get to have more data stored in their br disks

    for instance u can't get any game like mgs4 cuz its too big for 360. u would need like 5 discs. And ya ur live has better quality, but ps3 isn't shit online, its actually good enough and free. And who the fuck gives about trophies or achievements thats for noobs. And no there are more ps3 exclusives good, fuck ur halo its old now go play something new if u can find anything new on the 3shitty

  • MS is a company..............they are SUPPOSED to care about sales. Thats their business model. As is Sonys.

  • thanks for the lovely comment and correcting my mistake on 50 for a year

  • 60 bucks a month?

    a year

  • annotation and fix

  • its not about sales cause your losing LOL. It was all abotu sales when PS2 was winning. Sorry, cant change the rules now.

  • HeHe... I smell an X-Bot. Could it be you? I think so. ^.^

    SRSLY? Are you really trying to compare the current sales situation to last generation's sales situation? Let's take a look.

    PS3 (21M)

    X-Box 360 (29M)

    PS2 (150M)

    X-Box (20M)

    You can come back and talk sales if/when the X-Box 360 is outselling the PS3 by 130 Million or more units or more.

  • The X-Box 360 currently has an 8M lead over the PS3... I would think that the 360 would be doing better considering that it's half the price, but it's not. It baffles me.

    Sales are what matter when the consoles stop selling. Right now the competition is on, and the fat lady won't be singing any time soon. Competition is good. :-)

  • One more thing... The PS2 beat the X-Box because the X-Box only had Halo & Halo 2 while the PS2 had:

    Devil May Cry 1, 2, and 3, Final Fantasy X and XII, God of War I and II, Gran Turismo 4, Grand Theft Auto 3, Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, and 3, Ratchet & Clank 1, 2, 3, and 4, Tekken 4 and 5...

  • The 360 has:

    Forza 2, Gears of War 1 & 2, and Halo 3.

    The PS3 has:

    God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, MotorStorm, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift, Resistance 2, Resistance: FoM.

    And then the PS3 tends to get better versions of multiplatform games like: BioShock, Eternal Sonata, Ninja Gaiden 2, Oblivion, Red Alert 3...

  • for one, try listing PS3 games that are out. Also, sloppy seconds dont help your argument.

    Guess I hot a nerve since u posted 5 times after mine. LOL I guess its true, PS3 fanboys do have trou8ble sleeping at night knowing there last place, the BITCH of the industry.

  • LoL... Nah. I just dully express my ideas, and my ideas are too complex for 500 characters.

    You can call it whatever you want, but I get better versions of multiplatform games, and the wait is more than worth it to me. I'll still be playing Killzone 2 when I get my improved version of Red Alert 3. ^.^

    And I'll probably be playing Killzone 2 & Red Alert 3 when when the much improved version of Ninja Gaiden 2 comes out. ^.^

  • And the improvements made to multiplatform titles on the PS3 aren't just small differences that we can't see.

    They're things like: Higher Res Textures & Extra Content (BioShock), Loads of Bonus Material (Red Alert 3), New Characters & Online Co-Op (Ninja Gaiden 2), Faster & Fewer Load Times (Oblivion).

    Sales matter at the end, but until then they're irrelevant. Things that matter now are what drive affect the sales:

    Software, Features, RRoD, Price Points, etc.

  • you get slightly better multiplats, but you still had to wait to get them, id call it a glorified sloppy second. Mere table scraps.

  • LoL... Table scraps? Your little comparison fails again. A much better analogy would be:

    The 360 gets you cake, and the PS3 gets me cake with frosting and a glass of milk.

  • id say its more like 360 gets the cake, and leaves PS3 the best piece.........for a year lol.

    Point is.....waiting a year, even for a slightly better game means fail for PS3.

  • Nah... You are forgetting something. There's lots of cake. Each game - in this analogy - would represent a cake. Most multiplatform titles release on the PS3/360 simultaniously, but the few that take some extra time end up being greatly improved (Ninja Gaiden 2).

    There's so much cake that waiting for a few extra tasty cakes on the PS3 is preferable to getting instant access to an inferior cake.

    How much cake can you eat?

  • [Example]

    I'm currently playing Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, and Soul Calibur 4. I love these. ^.^

    And then I have other games I haven't managed to complete yet: Disgaea 3, Mirror's Edge, Oblivion, etc.

    I'm looking forward to the greatly improved versions of Ninja Gaiden 2 & Red Alert 3: Ultimate Edition.

    I don't mind the wait because there are so many great games I'm still playing or haven't completed yet; and the game will be better when I get it anyway.

  • bottom line, I played a game............and your getting my table scraps. updates or not, its still the core game, and u had to wait a year to play what I did allready. Play B3hind LOL

  • You call that a "bottom line"? The "bottom line" is:

    I have fun playing games at one time, and you have fun playing games at one time - different games perhaps, but they're fulfilling their purpose. There are more than enough games releasing to keep us occupied. Then when a much improved version comes out on the PS3 it's still new to anyone who hasn't played it (me) and I end up getting a much better experiance than the players of its original version (you).

    XBroke PlzFixMe? LoL...

  • wrong, not much improved, slightly improved, barely warranting a rent cause most people got their fix a year ago. We move on to recent games and your stuck playing last years leftovers. im done talking to you.......ur such a PS3 fan clearly insecure about being last place, the bitch of the industry.

  • LoL! In the case of Ninja Gaiden 2 & Oblivion it would be much improved. BioShock would be a minor improvement.

    PS3 users move on to recent games, and - when there is a game that came out on the 360 first that comes to the PS3 - get a much better experiance when they play those games.

    If you're done talking it's because you hardly know anything about the consoles, and you're a genuine failure.

    Nah... No isecurity here. Have you watched the video you're commenting on? LoL!

  • ya, im a failure for not wanting to partake in a pointless debate that gets us nowhere...........ya if u say so.

    I saw the video and hes wrong. This is a business. Offcourse sales matter. Not to us gamers, but to MS and Sony it means everything.

  • LoL... That's the thing though. Sales are booming for each company. Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are all getting plenty of sales to make money.

    The companies will all want more sales, but - as you said - it's irrelevant to us gamers.

    Here's the long and short of the PS3:

    - More "AAA titles"

    - More Powerful Hardware

    - More Reliable Hardware

    - More Features

  • sorry. If you pay attention to sales trends, the PS3 is actually selling worse in 09 then they did in 08. Year over year decline buddy. 360 is year over year improving.

  • Of course it's not doing as well in 2009... Not yet anyway. In 2009 the PS3 got sales fueled by Metal Gear Solid 4, Resistance 2, and a few other very big titles.

    This year all they've had so far is Killzone 2 - which will create a sales spike, but not as big a spike as Metal Gear Solid 4. Just wait for the spikes from:

    Final Fantasy XIII, God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, and the new Twisted Metal.

  • ya....just wait. FF13 will only cause a spike in japan. GT5 isnt even this year. TTwisted metal is only popular among the hardcore. And Halo 3 ODST, like it or not, will cause a spike far greater then GOW 3.

  • Well... Sort of. The release of Final Fantasy XIII will cause a huge spike in Japanese PS3 sales, and a spike in PS3/360 sales everywhere else, but the PS3 spike everywhere else is likely to bigger because:

    - The 360 version will - most likely - be multiple disks.

    - Most Final Fantasy fans were on the PS2 last gen.

  • true i guess. Euro sales will favor PS3 but NA will favor 360. In the end the japan sales will make the PS3 version most popular. But to cause a long lasting PS3 sales boost? nah. maybe a couple weeks worth.

  • Dude... Final Fantasy is perhaps the biggest game of all time. It's the flagship for RPGs.

    You might not be an RPG fan, but the significance of Final Fantasy is massive.

    I would say Final Fantasy will cause a permanent PS3 spike in Japan, a moderate spike in Europe, and short term spike in North America because JRPGs are least popular there.

  • Given that MS knows this they will do something for Europe and NA. Either way its multiplat over there. The hardware increases will be mimimal. As for japan, guess well have to wait and see.

  • Halo 3 ODST? I've never heard of that, but it's not likely to cause a big increase in hardware sales if it's a Halo game. All the Halo fans have already hopped for Halo 3 & Halo Wars.

  • never heard of ODST? WOW. With the amount of advertsing MS is gonna pull, people who dont even knwo what Halo is will buy the game. Its a fps by Bungie by the way, not liek Halo Wars.

  • I'm sure ODST will have great software sales, and that it'll be a great game, but...

    Unless Microsoft can get more big franchises it'll have a hard time holding a lead over the PS3. Right now it has Fable, Halo, and Gears of War.

    It needs more franchises like those to establish, and drive hardware sales.

    Otherwise the PS3 will most likely continue to just get it's already established PS2 franchises, and take over.

  • at the 360s price, it can live off of multiplats alone and still outsell PS3. SImple fact. And ur really undeestimating the hardware moving abilities of a fps Halo.

  • That's a BOLD statement... Even with the current prices I doubt that the $199.99 price point will be enough to nullify the continuous flow of PS2 game fans & Gamers that also want a Blu-Ray player.

    I don't know... It's BOLD, real BOLD. 0.0

  • its been happening since january 2009. Look up NPD, its NA sales for the months. Its fact. Price coupled with a RECESSION, we are allready seeing the market trends.

  • You mean the 360 has continued to be outselling the PS3 in 2009? That's no real surprise. Price in recession is a good point.

    It's just that while Microsoft has a price point advantage Sony has advantages in: Blu-Ray, Features, and it's looking like they might get a software advantage too.

    But - as I said - so far the only big game this year has been Killzone 2. Just wait for the software drive. We'll see how it goes.

  • -God of War 3 has a lot of PS2 fans that'll jump to the PS3 for it.

    -Gran Turismo 5 - the most popular racing simulation - probably has some fans waiting for its full version.

    -Killzone 2 has caused a minor spike we can't see yet.

    - Twisted Metal has a pretty big jumpable fan base.

    Microsoft did a good job of taking mindshare, but this "war" is far from over as far as sales are concerned.

  • fair enough. u got ur stuff and well see how they play out. but right now, u cant argue MS is sitting in a comfortable 2nd place. Its you, not us who are scratching and clawing for 2nd place.

  • I wouldn't say Microsoft is comfortable, but they are in 2nd at the moment. I think if Sony wanted to take that position they would just drop their price.

    But right now Sony (the company) is content with profitting of the PS3 as it is now, and me (the gamer) is having a great time playing games, watching movies, and... *not worrying about the RRoD*

  • 8 million lead, making a profit, and can do a counter price drop at any moment, id say thats comfortable. And S0ny is not quite breaking even with PS3 yet. They may turn a profit this year if the price stays the same.

  • 8M Lead? Yes.

    Profitable? Yes.

    Counter-Drop? Irrelevant.

    Microsoft's 360 is at a price that people are comfortable with. Their price isn't what's holding up the PS3's sales.

    The PS3's price is what's holdding up it's sales. If Sony drops it's price to $249.00 or $300.00 they'll see a huge sales increase as more people become comfortable paying that price.

    Anyone who would be comfprtable paying $149.99 for a 360 is probably already comfortable paying $199.99.

  • thats a crock of shit thats the same thing you poor bastards said when it was 600 now it 400-500 and ur still bitching stop being cheap and buy one

  • ahh but they are no longer havent you noticed people are getting bored of fps games they took a pole on game informer on which genre people wanted most it was rpgs by a landslide it double second place people are just begging for some true jrpgs

  • Ladies and gentleman, introducing xbox 360 fanboy, ghostmld, arguing with D2E.

    Who will win the argument? hmmm, it looks like ghost can't defend microsoft and their console anymore, so ghost loses.

    Honestly ghost, the xbox 360 is a good system but it pretty much showed all what it can do now. Stop defending microsoft. You do know that they don't care about consumers like you. They released the xbox brand so that they can beat sony. That's it. They have no passion, except money.

  • right, sony cares about u guys lol. like it or not, sales determine the winner, who the market chooses as the winner. Its Wii, then 360, and then the pimple on the ass of the gaming industry, the Ps3.

  • Well... If you examine the actions taken by Sony so far, and you have a decent understanding of the differences between American & Japanese culture you might come to understand that Sony does care about its consumers - at least a lot more than Microsoft.

    Fans wanted: Cross-Game Chat, Home, In-Game Music, Lower Prices, More Games, Rumble, Voice Messages...

    And Sony has delivered or is delivering all of those.

    Three new Home Spaces every month FTW! ^.^

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  • And if you want an explanation of the culture differences that effect Microsoft & Sony's business practices then here's the long & short:

    (U.S.) Microsoft: Capitalism

    (Japan) Sony: Enlightened Capitalism

    Microsoft rushed to the market to get more sales, and was totally fine with pissing off millions of gamers who would get the RRoD.

    Sony execs would see that as "dishonorable" and die of embaressment.

    (Money + Money Vs Money + Integrity)

  • The winner is determined by sales when all sales are final. The fat lady won't be singing for quite awhile. :-)

    So for now winning in everything that effects sales except for price point is pretty good.

  • But according to treezy, sales don't matter. It's the software.

  • ding ding

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  • u do realize that not only 360 has more games, but 360 has more games reviewed 70% and up right?

  • "60 has more games, but 360 has more games reviewed 70% and up"

    LoL... I'm afraid that you need to realize that the argument you made is entirely dependant on where you place the good/bad dividing line?

    The 360 has more games that are rated 70% (average) or up? Of course the 360 has more average games!

    The PS3 has more games rated 90% (Outstanding) or better. Not such a pretty argument when we raise the bar, huh?

    Quality Vs Quantity... Didn't you ever learn that?

  • Oh really? I sure wish I knew what they were. All any 360 user seems to raise up is Gears/Halo. Are there any other 9+ franchises?

    The PS3 has more 9+ franchises - as far as I know.

    LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, Resistance 2, Resistance: FoM, Valkyria Chronicles, Noby Noby Boy, MotorStorm: PR.

    I don't do Metacritic though because everyone knows most reviewers are biased for the 360 - which is why you 360 fans use it.

    I go off of GameSpot & IGN.

  • @Death2Evil Thank you IGN is my fave cuz they rate very harshly....they dont take shit.

    Metacritic excuses games thAt are bug ridden! You cant do that...if a game got a ot of bugs...it has 2 get some points taken way from the score

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  • most 360 games are on the pc

  • That's right. What matters to us, the gamers, is everything but sales, and that includes: features, hardware, software, etc.

    But from an argument standpoint against GhostMLD I can just say:

    "Fine... Sales do matter, but we don't know which console will have more sales by the end of this 'console war'. The PS3 is getting an edge in everything that affects sales though. ^.^"

  • ummm, no. Price means everything here, and they are getting wooped by the 360 price gap.

  • If price was all that mattered then the PS3 would be getting "wooped". It's not though... The fact that the 360 only has 3M more comepetitive sales is a testament to that.

  • Yes they do. They're not like microsoft that rushed the xbox 360 so that it could be released before the playstation 3. That's evidence that they don't care about consumers like you. Sony went through this as well when they wanted a spring release, but they delayed it so that they system can be perfected. Stop defending microsoft. THEY DNT CEH And as for sales, is it possible that people want to buy a ps3 but do not have the money therefore unfortuneate throughout the so called "console war"?

  • And then there's the big, hairy guerilla in the back of every X-Box 360 user's mind; the RRoD.

    I can't get the RRoD when I play my multiplatform games which - in a way - makes every multiplatform game better on the PS3 than on the 360. ^.^

  • then theres custom soundtracks, cross game chatting, trueskill matchmaking, things that make every 360 multiplat better then PS3.

  • LoL!

    -The PS3 has custom soundtracks.

    -Cross-Game chatting is cool, and coming to the PS3 via firmware update, but I'm not sure if I would use it or not.

    -TrueSkill is... pointless.

    And none of my multiplatform games can cause the RRoD. ^.^

  • PS3 has custom soundtracks in a handful of games, 360 has it for all of them. Trueskill is very underrated, ppl take it for granted. You do realize the latest chipset has rendered the RROD almost not a problem? Your a PS3 fanboy......offcourse u dont.

  • HeHe! The PS3 has custom soundtracks in whatever games support it, but it's not really a concern for me for two reasons:

    - I generally stick to the music that came with the game. It matches better.

    - In the event that I feel the need to hear something else I can pull out my Sansa Fuze.

    TrueSkill is viewed as pointless by most people? I wonder why...

  • making excuses.........typical PS3 fanboy mentality. go back to being last place.

  • Oh what a fool you are...

    The latest model of the X-Box 360 (Jasper) has a failure rate of around 10%. I'm afraid that 1/10 consoles failing is still a bit of a problem.

    The X-Box 360 Elite was supposed to have no more RRoD at all - or so Microsoft said. Then they failed 17% of the time.

    Original 360: 33.3%

    Elite or Falcon Model: 17%

    Jasper: 10%

  • so? judging by sales trends, people would still rather buy a 360 and take a risk then buy a fully functioning PS3 LOL!

    Just shows how PS3 is a little bitch in the real world.

  • Of course they would. The 360 is half the price, and if I were a parent it's the console I would buy for my kids. Unless, of course, I were a gamer too; in which case I would just let them play my PS3.

    Let's see the PS3 & 360 both at $199.99; which one would sell more? I'm not worried though. The PS3 & 360 are competing closely even with the 360's cheapness.

    I wonder how many of those sales are from people buying a new 360 after they got the RRoD... The PS3 has more people online. ^.^

  • wrong again. PSN has more members then LIVE, but SOny said that includes PSP. The PS3 only number may be anywhere from 8-10 million, wayyy below LIVES 17 million.

    And lol at you pretending PS3 is 199. MS was smart and only put the essentials in the Arcade. SOny on the other hand is bleeding money forputting too much crap in the PS3. Sony is to blame for the pricing.

    what else do u want to talk about?

  • Uh... I don't know what to say besides "No they didn't." Last article I saw said there were 18 Million PS3 users online, and no mention of the PSP.

    If the two consoles were the same price the PS3 would murder the X-Box 360 in a very brutal way. I do however realise that the extra quality is what raises it's price.

    I'm not cheap though. I bought the more expensive of the consoles knowing I would be getting a "better product," and I did. The Blu-Ray alone put it a cut above the 360.

  • for some reason i cant do a long post cause it wont register. point is u like your console and i like mine. both have their cons believe it or not. Just remember that it took PS3 two whole years to get a decent lineup, whcih is part of why its last place.

  • Har Har! Well that's true. It's the first straight-up correct thing you've said so far. I won't lie; the PS3 sucked when it first released, and didn't have a very hot 2nd year either.

    The closeness of the PS3 to the X-Box 360 in sales is actually a testament to the PS3's success.

    An 8M difference, and 5M of those are from the 360's headstart. That puts the 360 3M sales above the PS3 in competitive sales when it's half the price... I would call that pretty good. ^.^

  • thats freaking amazing, considering the popularity of the PS brand power generated from PS1 and PS2 being so popular. MS did a good job taking away "mind share" if your familiar with that advertising term.

  • Original 360: 33.3%

    Elite or Falcon Model: 17%

    Jasper: 10% - you

    Where did you get this from? I like to know the source. Not calling you a lier by the way.

  • - The original 360 mode, according to Microsoft, had a failure rate of 33%.

    - Then MIcrosoft released the X-Box 360 Elite and the Falcon Model; claiming that the RRoD was gone, but a study done by SquareTrade found it to be 16%-17%.

    - And the Jasper model's failure rate is at 10% - according to the rumor mill. There hasn't been an official study, but that's the estimate by most people. (360 Users & PS3 Users Alike)

    And I like that abreviation. D2E ^.^

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  • That's 60% in total. That's a lot of rrods.

  • actually all the 360 models have 33% failure rate microsoft just keeps renaming the chips.

  • Games that are out?

    Disgaea 3, Gran Turismo 5: P, Heavenly Sword, Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, MotorStorm, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift, Ratchet & Clank Future: ToD, Ratchet & Clank Future: QfB, Resistance 2, Resistance: FoM, Uncharted: DF, Warhawk, WipEout HD...

    Coming?

    God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2...

    360? Forza 2, Gears of War 1 & 2, Halo 3... And coming out for it? Nothing yet. ^.^

    Features & Games are what matter now. :-)

  • you should talk about killzone 2. I am confident that the sells are going to be great. i hope?

  • whats the song in the background you have? instrumental??

  • the ending is so random lol

  • Sweet video man. Good points. Just like the Wii, all they have is sales. Nothing else.

  • Whats the song in the video?

  • treezy keep up the vids becus i think ur the only person who comes close to facts on systems i have both ps3 and 360 but could u do a fact on any 360 facts not the nasty ones lol as i am a gamer love gameing any game that is

  • thanks man and I would do 360 info if I was a x box gamer, if I didnt have to pay for online and worry about the system breaking on me again I would be happy to talk about 360 facts but the ps3 is all i am up to date on...thanks again for the support though

  • What you think about the Zeebo? Make a vid on that.

  • o ye sry but only ps3 exclusives are full graphics so the other companys will not make 2 versons of the game it would cost to much like COD games will only be in HD fact

  • it is £22 for 13 months for xbox live gold and bafta games awards 360 won the most online players fact so ps3 hasnt got no were near the amount of online games i love my ps3 but only for ofline gameing unless i have a blast on killzone 2 then get lagged so for me ofline gameing ps3 rules for online gameing 360 is best but over all pc will out win all system has done and will do so good job i have all 3 systems lol

  • but xbox has 17 million people right well 9 million of those people dont have a gold membership bro so half cant even play games online just talk to people

  • well only message u cant even party chat without gold that is another downfall