Jazz Guitar Lesson: E Dorian Mode

[sjdss]

dorian has a minor 3RD and a major 6TH!

[will01r]

Good shit.

[jbdubify]

great lesson

[2Langdon]

Hi, Peter, thanks very much for putting this up. Good and useful learning material and way better than just trying to work from a book. Much appreciated! Now I shall be checking out all your other lessons.

[kam2515]

you teach easy and fast to understand , thank you

[tecnolover2642]

Good lesson but he should never play a D major scale and then say its an E dorian mode!! It's not. It's technically D major. This only confuses students to no end. Just say that the E dorian mode is the SECOND mode of the D major scale and therefore we can play E dorian by using the D major pattern and then starting on the SECOND note which is E. Simple!

[DangerousBastard]

Good stuff.

[MikeTheGuy00]

This guy is awesome because: 1. He looks a bit like adam sandler. like he could be his brother. lol. 2. He's enthusiastic with these lessons. It makes the lessons so much more interesting.

and 3? Well.. he knows his shit.

[ARDUNNO]

I'm just really begining to get to grips with 'Modes' ... is it right that this 'Dorian' is just like playing a Bminor(Ionian) scale over a tune that is in the key of Eminor?

...so your Root -note becomes E (rather than B)

[Phailure365]

@ARDUNNO NONONONO

Ionian is major.

Modes are useing the same scale, but diffrent notes as a starting point

[theoak84]

Its not even logical, but, i guess...

[echoplus2020]

seems pretty conventional to me

[theoak84]

why is he using an unconventional finger pattern

[Skadoosh417]

It might be what's comfortable for him, everyone has a different style.

[gabrieltag]

cause its what works best for him..

[jbrent1953]

Sorry dwydra - you moron - everything in this lesson is diatonic.

[dwydra]

its called modulation moron.

[brendino69]

he didnt end the scale on an e which is awkward to me

[KenKen540]

Lol why am I watching this?! :(

[oregonskateok]

Thats because he just played a box pattern.

[emixolydian]

He sure does make the fingering about twice as complicated as it needs to be by continually switching positions.

If he just reached for the 6th note with his pinky, and followed suite on the next string he'd be set. Or started the pattern with his middle finger.

[eldecko]

what guitar is that?

[RGsevenTHREEtwoONE]

a piece of shit from a garage sale lol

[phrydoom]

RGseven, that sounds just like my guitar(s). LOL

[paulandlesson]

Ok,

For all out there who seem to think my comments desearve - ratings. Watch "Don Mock using melodic minor scales" he explains why the key center approach is more effecient. I don't down anyone if it helps you learn by altering notes of the dominant scale. I am merely stating the mathmatically it is a huge difference in the amount of information you must retain. Peace.

[robidone]

ready plahay

[ChrisHaspeck]

when explaining the scale you might do better to start and stop on the "ROOT" ... that way your students might get a better feel for the tonality of the mode.

[paulandlesson]

I like to teach that there is no such thing as "MODE" rather "MOOD". It is all about what you treat as home and bookend around. The term modes, goes back to greek that we have to learn in college but is of no use here other than show that the guitarists gets it. Thanks

[sebavef]

You sond like Ned Flanders

[RGsevenTHREEtwoONE]

yeah man lol okally dokally!

[deeestroooy]

@sebavef Oh I do like a Comedian :') there's always one in each video xD

[paulandlesson]

With a few minutes of math you can easily see how many more "names" and "thoughts" of a scale if you were to start memorizing b'ing or #'ing notes from the root 7 modes X12 as oppossed to 12 full fretboard memorization.

[paulandlesson]

A reason for this tech maybe if one is using functional altered DOM chords, but obviously that is a long way down the road. Even then I don't completely agree with it. It is much easier for me to see every note of a D scale over the complete fretboard, than it would be to memorize my maj/min. and then think about b3 b6 etc.

[khbgkh]

when you get to a more advanced level of guitar playing, you should be able to think of these things more easily and it shouldn't be a problem. For instance, if i said to take a major scale but sharp the four and the two, you should be able to do that relatively on the fly. It seems impossible when you start, but a more intellectual understanding of the guitar will make this sort of thing effortless.

[paulandlesson]

Also, fursion marty I want to also thank you for taking the high road and ending with "best regards". I want to thank you for that YT would be more helpful if everyone kept your calm demeanor. OK I will try to justify my answer in the next sec.

[paulandlesson]

There is no E dorian, it is just a D scale (or b minor). The word mode should not exist unless you are talking about what you are playing over or what notes your are gravitating around. Such a stupid thing confuses so many musicians

[fusionsmarty]

@Paulandlesson:

you know, it´s only sharing some info about the dorian scale. although there was nothing new to me and you, we shouldn´t say it´s stupid.

btw: he IS talking about what he´s playing. he just shows the E dorian scale wich is the 2nd mode of D major.

And when you say "D scale (or B minor)" why should be E dorian confusing?

best regards

[paulandlesson]

fusion Marty, fist I should not use the word stupid. for that I apologize. Also let me say that there are some great guitarist, including my friend Gambale (although Frank knows the fretboard so well he can do it.)

[khbgkh]

paul the thing is modes have different moods, its just that in rock music the aeolian and ionian modes are most common. it is silly to say that the other modes dont have their uses. its just that most people dont use them right and are actually playing the major scale and not realizing it. its a confusing concept, i know

[taiokun]

ready,

play!!!

[DougFCKNSteele]

Ugghhhh, B minor scale over E, that's all..

[khbgkh]

thats not all though. there is a different set of tendency tones when playing in e dorian than in d major. for instance, C# feels like a decent note to rest on in e dorian while in d major it is the leading tone and pulls hard to D. the harmonic background is what puts this in e dorian and not d major. nother clear sign is that D is a very restless note. the point of this is that in constructing a melodic solo you must focus on different notes than in d major.

[DougFCKNSteele]

You win.

[paulandlesson]

When think of it as one note pulling to another or a note feels restlless. That is musicallity and does not concern modes of any kind.

[khbgkh]

musicality is knowing where your tonal center is and using it to your advantage.

[DevouringArk]

T H A N X ,BRO I LOVE THAT SCALE !!!!!

[ChadizzleFoshizzle]

My favorite mode !

[AllKillA]

You rule! That was a very good lesson.

[andym87]

a little pedantic going into so much detail for the major scale in a "jazz" lesson, but nevertheless very helpful. thx

[kendhall]

Why sugah...y'all know Ah ain't nuthin but a sheeit kickuh!

[chazmu1]

Good job! A couple of extra notes in your E Dorian example, but lesson is great! Glad to see it.