My '04 Sentra SpecV walked an early 90's RS 305. We ran back-to-back 4 or 5 times. However, I KNOW I wouldn't stand a chance against a 350 Camaro of the same year--those 350 TPI's are torque monsters. They pull like a train.
305 is slow if my 94 Explorer can beat my buddies 305 comaro i think a SHo will to. Mind you ive blown a newer Dodge Rumble Bee truck outa the water. Yes many mods ona 4.oL
What SHO should I get. There is a 97 with the v8 and a 5 speed 89 with the 3.0 v6. I like both cars but I don't know. There are so many people on here saying the 89 is better than the 97 but I don't know.
i agree aidenmonster, i have a 97 sho wit 2 turbos, i dont care what 305 you have or 350. a retard can make a chevy small block fast, smart people usually flock to things that pose a challenge to most. thats why i have a 11sec taurus. a 2003 ses taurus wit a gtp blow on it. the 3.0l duratec is a way better fit for that s/c. also im havein fun killin camero ss in my 2011 sho wit a lot of mods. my new project is my 97shobra that will be rear wheel and have an 83-302boss in it. a TT taurus! ya budy
that camaro was a 305 tbi which was the slowest 305 to be made race a 5 speed 305 tpi g92 which was the fastest 305 made you'll see a big difference. i know because i own one.
i have a 97 v8 sho and yes i have lost to some 350s bu,t those were moddified and the sho was pretty much stock...a stock 305 doesnt have shit on a stock v8 sho. i have a lot of friends with stock small blocks and modded ones and ive never lost to a stock 350. ive even beaten some lightly modded 350s. the thing is any one can buy a 350 and modded it but the sho isnt bad for a 4door. its unfortunate that there wasnt a strong aftermarket for this rear pieces of american front wheel drive creature
Races side by side and start at the same time are a lot more fair. The driver behind you gets jumped and has to punch it afterwards and that loss of time equals loss of race sometimes.
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v8 or auto v6 shos are really gay. I'll atleast nod to the v6 auto but god these v8 shos are gutless! My 95 mtx walks on any 305 or mustang gt. Even the new mustangs.
@Boston1775 You must have an issue with V8 SHOs. Lemme break it down for you: V8 MTX > V6 MTX > V8 ATX > V6 ATX. Auto V6 SHOs were the worst things to roll off the assembly line in Atlanta.
...Why did I mention an MTX V8? We'll just have to see........
@Shrike2415 waiitttttt........ when did Ford ever make a V8 MTX SHO?
You could certainly swap one in but then for me the thought that the v8 engine isn't truly the yamaha power house that makes or breaks a SHO in the first place.
Don't bang on the v6 ATX's , sure they'll never pull with an MTX :| butt they are still a blast to drive. Love my SHO.
@Boston1775 if your gay little mtx will beat a new mustang, I will send you my balls in a box and pay for the postage. prove it and put a video of a real race on here. by real, i mean, on the track. and for the record, 305 is a weak ass chevy.
doesnt look like he was racing you and in an auto i usally ride far behind people and second gear is huge to get out of 4th you have to step on it and you would run into someone lol
No you are correct ford did not take any bailout money they rather just close locations down one by one, zr1 is king of all american horsepower do the math!!!!!!
No I know a 305 isn't that great it's a work horse motor a 327 or 350 will beat it any day but it's still inconcivable to me that a SHO will outpace it by that much maybe he was having a bad day or something but they should run alot closer honeslty it's cool if your car is that good that's cool it is just hard for me to beleave that's all.
Yeah, a 350 would walk over a SHO any day of the week! Mostly anything else, too. Maybe he was having a bad day, but this SHO (the old green one) was the worst slowest POS of a SHO I've ever owned. My gray one could outshine it any day, which is why I don't understand the length by which I won...
I agree the 305 is pointless. but I bleieve about beating the SHO. The first V6 ones were overrated, the V8 ones were gutless. The new ones a fast as hell for the weight. 4300 pounds and under 5 seconds to 60 is really good. What year S10 did you have?
WTF are talking about why would ford make a sport car that's slower than there four door sudan what's the point than so I guess your telling me that you have a 9 to 10 second car in order to beat a Camaro rs with a 305 by 8 to 12 car lenghts
I honestly don't know why there was such a distance between us when it was over, but I DO know that, stock for stock, a SHO of any year will take a 5.0 Mustang with NO problems.
Also, a 305 is NOT all that. You're making it out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. It's not.
I'm not talking down your car I check a couple other websites and both cars run about the same the fox body Camaro rs 305 and Z28 all ran with the 5.0 mustang and it's well known with a few minor mods the 5.0 GT mustang could be faster than a new GT mustang so basically your saying your SHO V8 is faster than a GT mustang which is all made by Ford nope sorry your video can say whatever it wants there's more to it.
What are you talking about? It's a commonly known fact that any year mustang, save the newer ones, are no match for a SHO of ANY year. Also, Fox Body is referring to Mustangs, the term for Camaros you're looking for is F body.
A fully loaded 5.0 GT Vert with Auto will run a low 15. This is SHO territory. (I own a 94 ATX car with 3.0 bumpsticks btw). A GT coupe will knock a tenth or two off. An LX coupe 5.0 will pull a SHO of any year with authority, stock to stock.
I have owned 4 5.0's all of which I went different build routes with, and various other fox chassis cars (Fairmonts, Zephyrs, Early 80's Tbirds etc.), and am elbow deep in SHO country at the moment.
The RS does not come with the proper map, heads, or cam to compete with the Z28 and IROC-Z cars. The 350 was only offered in the IROC-Z with a 4 speed automatic, which despite 10 more hp over the 5.0 HO, meant power loss, and greater weight left the Camaro trailing.
RS's during those days were commonly called "Really Slow" because of the enormous speed difference between an RS Maro and a 5-speed TPI 305 Z28.
This video is retarded check the track times the SHO v8 runs around 15s and the Camaro RS 305 runs around 14s who ever believes this video obviously doesn't know shit about cars .
you've never ridden in a nicely kept and tuned ford SHO, of any gen. camaros as we all know are shit. they're cool to have when you're 17, and the best thing about them is you can put a lot of sound system in it lol.
@idc1233333 besides the z28's i've seen at the track owned by older smarter people, every camaro i've known or seen were owned by kids in my age group 17-21 and majority were complete shit.
look, every single car is a piece of shit, thats why we have mechanics that work on all the different kinds of cars. cars, roads, computers, almost everything was built to break so that a flowing economy can exist.
and anyways, you cant say one car is better than another or one company is better than another, everything was built by differnt people and marketed to different people, so stop e-thuggin your not a bad ass, just a misinformed child
6agent hawk, your car, if even you have one, doesnt even have a 8-9 second 0-60, and gtdrummer dude ford did take the bail out money what rock are you under, and, gm is doing fine, but ford is not "dominating the scene" just becus the have cars in everything like a whore doesnt mean they are winning anything, the cobra engine is nly making that horsepower thanks to the supercharger,
For your information, there is NOTHING attached to the exhaust, as in NO EXHAUST. Period. This is what straight pipes sound like. You're just upset your V6 will never sound like this.
well then audio sucks lol it sounds like crap from here...and no, i can care less about my taurus...it sucks...i had to replace the engine block, and rebuild the trans twice
Yeah, audio does suck... The sad fact is that the camera that i took this video on is much better quality than the one i used to take a lot of the older videos, but the microphone is WORLDS shittier lol!
Anyways, about your Taurus being a V6, you posted a comment on another one of my videos saying DOHC, which I assumed was just a Duratec because usually if it's a SHO people say it's a SHO. Besides, most Tauruses are V6's anyways.
Who gives a shit what it sounds like, and who gives a shit if you have 2 extra pistons, there are endless V6s that could STOMP many V8s, and if the exhaust is done right, both can sound badassed........
I was just stating a point... Anyways, no matter how much you tweak it, a V6 is a V6, and it will never EVER sound like a V8. May sound nice, but still not a V8. I don't care if a 370Z can kill my SHO, it will never sound better.
well I'm not going to argue with U, but the only V-8 that has an unmistakable badass-sound to it is the LS series from GM, other than that, with straight pipes, or flowmasters, both designs can growl really good.....
Mustangs just sound like a shitty V8 with a good exhaust on them (cuz thats what they are) the LSes might be lesser known because they cost a shit-ton more to obtain......
LS1 is a better motor than a 5.0 sure. It's also ten years newer. However, the new 4.6L makes the same power as the 5.7L LS1 and the older 4.6L Cobra motor made about the same power as the LS1 in the same time period, and the '03-'04 Cobras put down 380hp to the wheels right out of the box. I can put down over 300whp with just heads/cam/intake on an old 5.0 for cheap.
Yea, I have no idea about the cobras and stuff, I could care less, but even if it has a couple horsepower more, there is something that will always be there...... Its still a FORD, LOLOLOLOL
I hope you don't say that after you get beat by Fords, cuz it's a loser-ass excuse. Incase you live under a rock, Ford is DOMINATING the performance scene right now. Go to Barret Jackson every now and then. Ford has Mustangs on dynojets making 1/4 mile passes, Mustangs turned sideways so you can see the bottom, Mustangs drifting outside, GTs and concept cars everywhere. Chevy had a new Corvette in the back corner and that was it, so you might wanna keep the shit talk down for now.
Not to mention GM had to file bankruptcy even after taking the bailout money. Ford didn't take any money and is still doing fine financially. That speaks for itself. I'm actually not a Ford fan, I only like Mustangs and would never buy a Ford truck. But right now Ford is whooping Chevy's ass in performance and most other categories as well so now is probably a bad time to try to crap-talk.
You do have a point, but I'll crap-talk now, then when they start doing good again, I won't have to say anything, plus what kinda GM fan would I be if I gave up on em when their doin bad? and ford trucks? thats the only acceptable ford, is an old cheap beater truck from them, LOL
uh I'm a pretty big Ford fan, and Ford has nothing that can touch a ZR1 or CTS-V. Camaro SS stomps on the Mustang GT as it is - that may change when the Coyote comes out though. Cobalt SS vs what? Focus RS, we dont even get it here. G8 GT/GXP (granted they are gone now) vs???
Ford has the GT which competes with the CTS-V and Corvettes, and they have many Mustang layouts. Base model, GT, Roush with all of the different stages including 427R, etc. I don't really care about new cars anyway. Waste of money if you ask me. Why pay $30,000 + for a new car when you can restore a nice old 'Vette or Mustang and make it nicer and faster for less than half the price? Old cars are cheap and easy to fix and more fun if you ask me.
Sure I can, anyone that enjoys restoring older cars understands that, it's simple. I have a total of $3,000 into my '82 coupe 5.0 including the cost of buying the car itself and it already beats new GTs lol. The seats need to be recovered and the kit for that is $360 on The Paddock. The car needs paint, and I can get a real nice paint job done for a grand by people I know. Has cold a/c, power windows, power locks, good sound system. So for like $4,500 bucks my car looks nice and beats new GTs.
ok seriously GM guy down there this is a 4 door family sedan... it has a 3.4L DOHC V8 from Yamaha. With some mods it is a 10-14 sec car your trying to compare it to a corvette. the only thing you can compare is the G8 and since GM has hit rock bottom not much room to talk man. V8s and V6 cars have there place in the world if you want to compare a V6 then compare the 1 and 2 gen SHOs and fyi Corvette cant beat a properly built SHO based car referring to the SHO Shop SHOgun here.
idk what i said to you...but an sho only being a 10-14 second car? how can that be if my 99 taurus dohc, with the runners stuck CLOSED, can have a time of around 8-9 seconds?! granted, i replaced the engine and rebuilt the trans twice...
i think you got me mixed up with someone else too lol iam no a "GM guy", i actually love pontiac, and hate ford...
Where's the video of your car? And oh yes, I must say all cars with 400 hp stock sound like garbage. Gotta agree there. I am sure your POS sounds much better.
I dont have a car, I sold my mustangs to my uncle to pay for a class my scholarship wont pay for, one had a 351W and cherry bomb turbos, The other was a 96 GT with a Hellion turbo kit and no mufflers. I drive my 97 F350(460, built) its got strait pipes. My camera equip got stolen(I live in Athens Ga for gods sake). I hate the way the new GM V8s sound, its all to tinny and fake
i finally uploaded an SHO vid if your interested. Keeps short shifting into 3rd though. idk why, it really kills its speed. oh well, leaves room for improvement.
So what's up man? Did the SCT stiffen up the shifts like Doug said they would?
It just pisses me off EVERY TIME I accelerate in my Gen III SHO. You can just tell the clutches are slipping to appease pussies that should be driving... and Oldsmobile, Buick or some shit.
Yeah, it stiffens them up BIG TIME!! My favorite part about the whole tune though, if you REALLY wanna know?
I've always hated the fact that I have a car with a V8 that I can't rev past 4K RPM. Now I can! that also clears the way for an upcoming swap that I definitely plan on doing........
I know what you mean... people that have V8 SHOs know what you mean. But there is a certain faction of A-holes that will somehow get the idea that the engine only revs to 4k.
What Shrike means is that it must be in (D)rive to rev past 4k. There is a fuel cutoff in neutral that stops you from revving higher in Neutral.
Yeah, I read somewhere that you want to have 3 pedals where people would expect to see 2. The way it should have been in the first place.
I've always liked the SHO's (especially the newer ones)...The car definitely has a "cult" type following...
Crazcompart 2 weeks ago
That LO3 305 makes 170 HP I'm not surprised it couldn't keep up, not to mention the RS is speed limited to 113MPH
GMisurdaddy 4 months ago
will these beat a 97-03 gtp prix?
imserious2187 5 months ago
@imserious2187 Hell no they won't
GMisurdaddy 4 months ago
My '04 Sentra SpecV walked an early 90's RS 305. We ran back-to-back 4 or 5 times. However, I KNOW I wouldn't stand a chance against a 350 Camaro of the same year--those 350 TPI's are torque monsters. They pull like a train.
Chris17psi 7 months ago
305 is slow if my 94 Explorer can beat my buddies 305 comaro i think a SHo will to. Mind you ive blown a newer Dodge Rumble Bee truck outa the water. Yes many mods ona 4.oL
xplorerondubs 8 months ago
I'll take my 3.0 MTX SHO over a V8 SHO anyday, but good God do those V8's sound amazing.
base3100 11 months ago
What SHO should I get. There is a 97 with the v8 and a 5 speed 89 with the 3.0 v6. I like both cars but I don't know. There are so many people on here saying the 89 is better than the 97 but I don't know.
Hoodrat93 11 months ago
my 97 sho has beaten a not joke a 2011 shelby gt mustang a 305 camero, a audi A6 and a sho 89 and others, and a doge charger 2011,
WHYDEATHWHY 11 months ago
i agree aidenmonster, i have a 97 sho wit 2 turbos, i dont care what 305 you have or 350. a retard can make a chevy small block fast, smart people usually flock to things that pose a challenge to most. thats why i have a 11sec taurus. a 2003 ses taurus wit a gtp blow on it. the 3.0l duratec is a way better fit for that s/c. also im havein fun killin camero ss in my 2011 sho wit a lot of mods. my new project is my 97shobra that will be rear wheel and have an 83-302boss in it. a TT taurus! ya budy
97shobra 1 year ago
that camaro was a 305 tbi which was the slowest 305 to be made race a 5 speed 305 tpi g92 which was the fastest 305 made you'll see a big difference. i know because i own one.
1987TransAmws6 1 year ago
i have a 97 v8 sho and yes i have lost to some 350s bu,t those were moddified and the sho was pretty much stock...a stock 305 doesnt have shit on a stock v8 sho. i have a lot of friends with stock small blocks and modded ones and ive never lost to a stock 350. ive even beaten some lightly modded 350s. the thing is any one can buy a 350 and modded it but the sho isnt bad for a 4door. its unfortunate that there wasnt a strong aftermarket for this rear pieces of american front wheel drive creature
aidenmonster05 1 year ago
next time you should let the camaro know your racing instead of just dumping the clutch and running from him.
johnnyo032003 1 year ago
@johnnyo032003 there is no clutch
blabla3o 1 year ago
@Camaromandave98 actually, dynoed at 137 hp and 101 lb ft tq. its junk
kyleedgar420 1 year ago
street racing,so un-cool.in a urban area
wilphil64 1 year ago
did you see that baby carriage fly off your bumper?
JT30CA 1 year ago
Races side by side and start at the same time are a lot more fair. The driver behind you gets jumped and has to punch it afterwards and that loss of time equals loss of race sometimes.
2muchreality4u 1 year ago
Cool wheres the race?
95WhiteTransam 1 year ago
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v8 or auto v6 shos are really gay. I'll atleast nod to the v6 auto but god these v8 shos are gutless! My 95 mtx walks on any 305 or mustang gt. Even the new mustangs.
Boston1775 1 year ago
@Boston1775 You must have an issue with V8 SHOs. Lemme break it down for you: V8 MTX > V6 MTX > V8 ATX > V6 ATX. Auto V6 SHOs were the worst things to roll off the assembly line in Atlanta.
...Why did I mention an MTX V8? We'll just have to see........
Shrike2415 1 year ago
@Shrike2415 waiitttttt........ when did Ford ever make a V8 MTX SHO?
You could certainly swap one in but then for me the thought that the v8 engine isn't truly the yamaha power house that makes or breaks a SHO in the first place.
Don't bang on the v6 ATX's , sure they'll never pull with an MTX :| butt they are still a blast to drive. Love my SHO.
rollingthunder4000 1 year ago
@Boston1775 if your gay little mtx will beat a new mustang, I will send you my balls in a box and pay for the postage. prove it and put a video of a real race on here. by real, i mean, on the track. and for the record, 305 is a weak ass chevy.
kyleedgar420 1 year ago
doesnt look like he was racing you and in an auto i usally ride far behind people and second gear is huge to get out of 4th you have to step on it and you would run into someone lol
jayguy173 1 year ago
No you are correct ford did not take any bailout money they rather just close locations down one by one, zr1 is king of all american horsepower do the math!!!!!!
53venom 2 years ago
No I know a 305 isn't that great it's a work horse motor a 327 or 350 will beat it any day but it's still inconcivable to me that a SHO will outpace it by that much maybe he was having a bad day or something but they should run alot closer honeslty it's cool if your car is that good that's cool it is just hard for me to beleave that's all.
SinCiTy2468 2 years ago
Yeah, a 350 would walk over a SHO any day of the week! Mostly anything else, too. Maybe he was having a bad day, but this SHO (the old green one) was the worst slowest POS of a SHO I've ever owned. My gray one could outshine it any day, which is why I don't understand the length by which I won...
Shrike2415 2 years ago
you won since the camaro was a 305. Very gutless in everything they are in
ojd1990 2 years ago
305's are junk, my stock 350 in a s-10 was pushing 325 hp, that would have blow that sho's doors off half throttle
chevy383beast 1 year ago
I agree the 305 is pointless. but I bleieve about beating the SHO. The first V6 ones were overrated, the V8 ones were gutless. The new ones a fast as hell for the weight. 4300 pounds and under 5 seconds to 60 is really good. What year S10 did you have?
ojd1990 1 year ago
@ojd1990 it was a 88 model
chevy383beast 1 year ago
nice I like the 80's S10s with V8 swaps. Good sleepers and I've seen fast ones at the track!
ojd1990 1 year ago
it was pretty crazy
chevy383beast 1 year ago
@SinCiTy2468 back then the 350 was only a ten horsepower 30 tq difference
jayguy173 1 year ago
WTF are talking about why would ford make a sport car that's slower than there four door sudan what's the point than so I guess your telling me that you have a 9 to 10 second car in order to beat a Camaro rs with a 305 by 8 to 12 car lenghts
SinCiTy2468 2 years ago
I honestly don't know why there was such a distance between us when it was over, but I DO know that, stock for stock, a SHO of any year will take a 5.0 Mustang with NO problems.
Also, a 305 is NOT all that. You're making it out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. It's not.
Shrike2415 2 years ago
@Shrike2415 i wasted alot of 350 in montes and cutlass's with my sho
shedlockt 1 year ago
I'm not talking down your car I check a couple other websites and both cars run about the same the fox body Camaro rs 305 and Z28 all ran with the 5.0 mustang and it's well known with a few minor mods the 5.0 GT mustang could be faster than a new GT mustang so basically your saying your SHO V8 is faster than a GT mustang which is all made by Ford nope sorry your video can say whatever it wants there's more to it.
SinCiTy2468 2 years ago
What are you talking about? It's a commonly known fact that any year mustang, save the newer ones, are no match for a SHO of ANY year. Also, Fox Body is referring to Mustangs, the term for Camaros you're looking for is F body.
Shrike2415 2 years ago
@Shrike2415
This is completely false.
A fully loaded 5.0 GT Vert with Auto will run a low 15. This is SHO territory. (I own a 94 ATX car with 3.0 bumpsticks btw). A GT coupe will knock a tenth or two off. An LX coupe 5.0 will pull a SHO of any year with authority, stock to stock.
I have owned 4 5.0's all of which I went different build routes with, and various other fox chassis cars (Fairmonts, Zephyrs, Early 80's Tbirds etc.), and am elbow deep in SHO country at the moment.
GR40GT 1 year ago
@SinCiTy2468
The RS does not come with the proper map, heads, or cam to compete with the Z28 and IROC-Z cars. The 350 was only offered in the IROC-Z with a 4 speed automatic, which despite 10 more hp over the 5.0 HO, meant power loss, and greater weight left the Camaro trailing.
RS's during those days were commonly called "Really Slow" because of the enormous speed difference between an RS Maro and a 5-speed TPI 305 Z28.
RS's were pretty literally crapped on by 5.0's.
GR40GT 1 year ago
This video is retarded check the track times the SHO v8 runs around 15s and the Camaro RS 305 runs around 14s who ever believes this video obviously doesn't know shit about cars .
SinCiTy2468 2 years ago
OK, how about someday I get back in touch with Special K and we can do a side by side race where I kill him just the same?
Shrike2415 2 years ago
you've never ridden in a nicely kept and tuned ford SHO, of any gen. camaros as we all know are shit. they're cool to have when you're 17, and the best thing about them is you can put a lot of sound system in it lol.
whatsKRAKENnucca 2 years ago
@whatsKRAKENnucca I own a v6 taurus sho and a v8 taurus sho. The only shit here is your logic because I also own a camaro
idc1233333 2 years ago
@idc1233333 besides the z28's i've seen at the track owned by older smarter people, every camaro i've known or seen were owned by kids in my age group 17-21 and majority were complete shit.
whatsKRAKENnucca 2 years ago
@whatsKRAKENnucca unfortunately most of the time thats true because spoiled kids get them cheap and beat the shit out of them
idc1233333 2 years ago
@idc1233333 my logic exactly...lol
whatsKRAKENnucca 2 years ago
look guys the thing is that both cars are really cool you can not compare the two together.
CopperheadViper 1 year ago
I don't know about you, but if I'm getting walked on by a Taurus, I should PRRROBABLY re-think my performance vehicle decisions. lol
thasssbruuutal 2 years ago
look, every single car is a piece of shit, thats why we have mechanics that work on all the different kinds of cars. cars, roads, computers, almost everything was built to break so that a flowing economy can exist.
emilizt 2 years ago
and anyways, you cant say one car is better than another or one company is better than another, everything was built by differnt people and marketed to different people, so stop e-thuggin your not a bad ass, just a misinformed child
imadethistowatchvide 2 years ago
6agent hawk, your car, if even you have one, doesnt even have a 8-9 second 0-60, and gtdrummer dude ford did take the bail out money what rock are you under, and, gm is doing fine, but ford is not "dominating the scene" just becus the have cars in everything like a whore doesnt mean they are winning anything, the cobra engine is nly making that horsepower thanks to the supercharger,
imadethistowatchvide 2 years ago
ford didnt take any bailout money. they said that on the news like a billion times
608gamer07 2 years ago
sounds like shit...anyone with a boomer attached to their exaust is gay...
6agenthawk 2 years ago
For your information, there is NOTHING attached to the exhaust, as in NO EXHAUST. Period. This is what straight pipes sound like. You're just upset your V6 will never sound like this.
Shrike2415 2 years ago
well then audio sucks lol it sounds like crap from here...and no, i can care less about my taurus...it sucks...i had to replace the engine block, and rebuild the trans twice
how did you know i had a V6?!
6agenthawk 2 years ago
Yeah, audio does suck... The sad fact is that the camera that i took this video on is much better quality than the one i used to take a lot of the older videos, but the microphone is WORLDS shittier lol!
Anyways, about your Taurus being a V6, you posted a comment on another one of my videos saying DOHC, which I assumed was just a Duratec because usually if it's a SHO people say it's a SHO. Besides, most Tauruses are V6's anyways.
Shrike2415 2 years ago
It always sounded better in person, too.
Shrike2415 2 years ago
Who gives a shit what it sounds like, and who gives a shit if you have 2 extra pistons, there are endless V6s that could STOMP many V8s, and if the exhaust is done right, both can sound badassed........
TacticalSuperRebel 2 years ago
I was just stating a point... Anyways, no matter how much you tweak it, a V6 is a V6, and it will never EVER sound like a V8. May sound nice, but still not a V8. I don't care if a 370Z can kill my SHO, it will never sound better.
Shrike2415 2 years ago
well I'm not going to argue with U, but the only V-8 that has an unmistakable badass-sound to it is the LS series from GM, other than that, with straight pipes, or flowmasters, both designs can growl really good.....
TacticalSuperRebel 2 years ago
Ummm the 5.0 and 4.6 Mustang engines are much more known for their sound than the LS motors.
gtdrummerdude 2 years ago
Mustangs just sound like a shitty V8 with a good exhaust on them (cuz thats what they are) the LSes might be lesser known because they cost a shit-ton more to obtain......
TacticalSuperRebel 2 years ago
LS1 is a better motor than a 5.0 sure. It's also ten years newer. However, the new 4.6L makes the same power as the 5.7L LS1 and the older 4.6L Cobra motor made about the same power as the LS1 in the same time period, and the '03-'04 Cobras put down 380hp to the wheels right out of the box. I can put down over 300whp with just heads/cam/intake on an old 5.0 for cheap.
gtdrummerdude 2 years ago
Yea, I have no idea about the cobras and stuff, I could care less, but even if it has a couple horsepower more, there is something that will always be there...... Its still a FORD, LOLOLOLOL
TacticalSuperRebel 2 years ago
I hope you don't say that after you get beat by Fords, cuz it's a loser-ass excuse. Incase you live under a rock, Ford is DOMINATING the performance scene right now. Go to Barret Jackson every now and then. Ford has Mustangs on dynojets making 1/4 mile passes, Mustangs turned sideways so you can see the bottom, Mustangs drifting outside, GTs and concept cars everywhere. Chevy had a new Corvette in the back corner and that was it, so you might wanna keep the shit talk down for now.
gtdrummerdude 2 years ago
Not to mention GM had to file bankruptcy even after taking the bailout money. Ford didn't take any money and is still doing fine financially. That speaks for itself. I'm actually not a Ford fan, I only like Mustangs and would never buy a Ford truck. But right now Ford is whooping Chevy's ass in performance and most other categories as well so now is probably a bad time to try to crap-talk.
gtdrummerdude 2 years ago
You do have a point, but I'll crap-talk now, then when they start doing good again, I won't have to say anything, plus what kinda GM fan would I be if I gave up on em when their doin bad? and ford trucks? thats the only acceptable ford, is an old cheap beater truck from them, LOL
TacticalSuperRebel 2 years ago
uh I'm a pretty big Ford fan, and Ford has nothing that can touch a ZR1 or CTS-V. Camaro SS stomps on the Mustang GT as it is - that may change when the Coyote comes out though. Cobalt SS vs what? Focus RS, we dont even get it here. G8 GT/GXP (granted they are gone now) vs???
IntoxicatedPuma 2 years ago
Ford has the GT which competes with the CTS-V and Corvettes, and they have many Mustang layouts. Base model, GT, Roush with all of the different stages including 427R, etc. I don't really care about new cars anyway. Waste of money if you ask me. Why pay $30,000 + for a new car when you can restore a nice old 'Vette or Mustang and make it nicer and faster for less than half the price? Old cars are cheap and easy to fix and more fun if you ask me.
gtdrummerdude 2 years ago
GT has been out of production for almost 5 years. Not much of a competitor for the CTS-V, kinda missing a couple doors and any kind of practicality.
You can make an old Mustang nicer and faster than a new one for 30k? Good luck. If you can you should be in the car making business.
IntoxicatedPuma 2 years ago
Sure I can, anyone that enjoys restoring older cars understands that, it's simple. I have a total of $3,000 into my '82 coupe 5.0 including the cost of buying the car itself and it already beats new GTs lol. The seats need to be recovered and the kit for that is $360 on The Paddock. The car needs paint, and I can get a real nice paint job done for a grand by people I know. Has cold a/c, power windows, power locks, good sound system. So for like $4,500 bucks my car looks nice and beats new GTs.
gtdrummerdude 2 years ago
the gt500 beats the cts-v in the 1/4 mile but they dont have anything out there to compete with the zr-1, unfortunately...
608gamer07 2 years ago
ok seriously GM guy down there this is a 4 door family sedan... it has a 3.4L DOHC V8 from Yamaha. With some mods it is a 10-14 sec car your trying to compare it to a corvette. the only thing you can compare is the G8 and since GM has hit rock bottom not much room to talk man. V8s and V6 cars have there place in the world if you want to compare a V6 then compare the 1 and 2 gen SHOs and fyi Corvette cant beat a properly built SHO based car referring to the SHO Shop SHOgun here.
Siman1990 2 years ago
idk what i said to you...but an sho only being a 10-14 second car? how can that be if my 99 taurus dohc, with the runners stuck CLOSED, can have a time of around 8-9 seconds?! granted, i replaced the engine and rebuilt the trans twice...
i think you got me mixed up with someone else too lol iam no a "GM guy", i actually love pontiac, and hate ford...
6agenthawk 2 years ago
He's talking 1/4 mile times.
Shrike2415 2 years ago
Do a side by side race. Nobody can believe this. And if you want to hear real exhaust, watch my video.
Benma88 2 years ago
What's so hard to believe about two cars at a complete stop and then going for it? You can obviously tell he's trying.
Shrike2415 2 years ago
i don't see what you're so proud about considering your car stock is making 260hp and that camaro stock is making 170hp.
NIGBEATS 2 years ago
I thought it had 220
PeterObi 2 years ago
235.
bondosho 2 years ago
Oh yeah, this is IN-CAR exhaust. Its MUCH louder outside.
Shrike2415 2 years ago
What type of exhaust are you running on the V8 SHO? Sounds real decent!!
LT1HILLINGHOE 2 years ago
That's the sweet sweet sound of no exhaust at all LOL. Yep, nothing past the 2 precats!!
Shrike2415 2 years ago
it does the same thing, and your car sound like shit when you rev it over 1grand, like all other GTOS
orbitofdoom16 2 years ago
Where's the video of your car? And oh yes, I must say all cars with 400 hp stock sound like garbage. Gotta agree there. I am sure your POS sounds much better.
Benma88 2 years ago
I dont have a car, I sold my mustangs to my uncle to pay for a class my scholarship wont pay for, one had a 351W and cherry bomb turbos, The other was a 96 GT with a Hellion turbo kit and no mufflers. I drive my 97 F350(460, built) its got strait pipes. My camera equip got stolen(I live in Athens Ga for gods sake). I hate the way the new GM V8s sound, its all to tinny and fake
orbitofdoom16 2 years ago
Yet my Turbo RX-7 coul wipe all of what you've owned....
Slightlyevil 2 years ago
I doubt it
orbitofdoom16 2 years ago
Mkay
Slightlyevil 2 years ago
dick eating faggot shut up
chanc812 2 years ago
Who the fuck are you cuntbag, go fuck your self and die in a corner
orbitofdoom16 2 years ago
im ur dad fag! good comeback!!
chanc812 2 years ago
I dont know who the hell you are, and dont care, but go drown in your Tracker
orbitofdoom16 2 years ago
its not my tracker, its my friends, if u rev it up past 1 grand it sounds like shit, like the rest of them gto's
chanc812 2 years ago
so whats your point in this arguement
orbitofdoom16 2 years ago
"Please see first comment"
chanc812 2 years ago
Again, fuck you dick wheat, Are you 8 or somthing?
orbitofdoom16 2 years ago
im 20
chanc812 2 years ago
Im 28, you are the most immature 20 year old ive ever seen
orbitofdoom16 2 years ago
seems pretty quick.
i finally uploaded an SHO vid if your interested. Keeps short shifting into 3rd though. idk why, it really kills its speed. oh well, leaves room for improvement.
Shaun589 3 years ago
thing sounds bad ass!!!
413murdermass 3 years ago
So what's up man? Did the SCT stiffen up the shifts like Doug said they would?
It just pisses me off EVERY TIME I accelerate in my Gen III SHO. You can just tell the clutches are slipping to appease pussies that should be driving... and Oldsmobile, Buick or some shit.
Good work! Holla back!
MTXSHO9732vV8SHO 3 years ago
Yeah, it stiffens them up BIG TIME!! My favorite part about the whole tune though, if you REALLY wanna know?
I've always hated the fact that I have a car with a V8 that I can't rev past 4K RPM. Now I can! that also clears the way for an upcoming swap that I definitely plan on doing........
Shrike2415 3 years ago
I know what you mean... people that have V8 SHOs know what you mean. But there is a certain faction of A-holes that will somehow get the idea that the engine only revs to 4k.
What Shrike means is that it must be in (D)rive to rev past 4k. There is a fuel cutoff in neutral that stops you from revving higher in Neutral.
Yeah, I read somewhere that you want to have 3 pedals where people would expect to see 2. The way it should have been in the first place.
It's been done, I guess you're next!!
MTXSHO9732vV8SHO 3 years ago
Yes I do! Only probem is that I don't know how to fabricate, so mounts and junk are in the air until I can find someone to do it for me.
Shrike2415 3 years ago