is it just me or did the first soloist in introducing the first solo, at 0:59 did he add an extra note. The solo is suppose to be f a e g d g, climbing down, but he climbed down from A., thus resulting in having to play a triplet instead of two 16ths to make up for the extra note.
It has nothing to do with the key that Bach wrote in. If you were reading the music, the key signature would be the same. It' s the pitch that is different. They are playing at Baroque pitch,
the man makes mistakes in rhythms and plays apogiaturas there there's nothing. Moreover, there no balance with the musical level between him an the 2nd violin, who is really good. Royalty Free Classical Music Symphony Orchestra, under the direction of Dr. Keith J. Salmon, THIS one is really better, enonciating, and showing differents articulations of score voices. And here, no mistakes in 1st violin !!!!!!
@neskoncnost How do you know if this is not just the way Bach intended this piece to be played and you are wrong? How can you be so sure of your statement?
@chinitowon it's not that he's messing up.. baroque sheet music is just usually a guid line. For the most part the soloist are free to play the peice however they damn well please, wich is why baroque music (solist) a lot of improv in the music or recording they play. This particiular video has a crap load or inprov that it's completly obvious and not writen in the music itself (i have the music and have played it myself) and 1:00 to 1:04 would be part of that "improv" in how he's playing it.
@VaniaEmerald I think he's trying to hold onto the note for full value/extend it. I've heard it a few times on other recordings, but this one sounds really off.
@Nukefuzion This is not your "regular" violin. its a special type of violin that's meant to be tuned half step down, so the strings from lowest to highest are: F, C#, G#, and D#
I love Rachel . I have many cd . I love her clear and crystal sound.Her Vivaldi Stravaganza is heavenly.
But I prefer to listen her and not to watch her . Why she agitate and shake herself so much while she's playing , in so much funny way? And her partner Manze too...
They do not communicate the solemnity and the emotion of what are playing .
It's seems they are introducing " Henry the Horse dances the Walts" in a circus arena.
I love Podger. I have many cd. Clear and crystal sound. Perfect register.
But I prefer to listen her and not to watch her. Why she agitate and shake herself so much while is playng in so funny way? Her partner too.....
They do not communicate the solemnity and the emotion of what are playng. It's seems they're introducing " Henry the Horse dances the walts" in a circus arena.
dragonetto1 I love the Podger. I have many cd . Perfect register. Crystal clear sound. But I prefer to listen her and not see her . Why she moves so 'much while is playng? She's playng Bach , but it seems she's introducing "Henry the Horse dances the waltz." in in a circus arena
Why does Manze keep adding those pauses in his solo bits and then rushing the descending scale part? It just ruins the flow of it. Was it an intention change or just a lack of understand of the song? I know it's an improvisation that may be meant to add feeling to the song but it just doesn't work.
@twunk12 you're completely right. I was just thinking the same thing. Well, the baroque fashion calls for slowing the lower notes and such, but that's mainly for solo pieces. This is backed by an orchestra, so it sounds bad.
@M1993Michelle Who cares what it's called, as long as it sounds the same. Anyway, that comment was added over 7 months ago, so I really don't remember the time or circumstances that it was written in. Anyway, at least I didn't call it a tune or something even more ridiculous.
@rororosie1987 The pitch is totally irrelevant as long as they are unable to play right intervalls IN TUNE owing to technical difficulties - or they were unable to tune their instruments. It's simply AWFUL! A little practicing of scales with a tape recorder could help ...
'A little practicing [sic] of scales with a tape recorder would help...' wow!! That's a little harsh, no?
But then I check out your channel and all your recent comments are the same: patronising, scathing, not in the least bit constructive. How liberating it must be to hide anonymously behind a YouTube username to criticize those who are infinitely more talented than yourself!
I know it's movement one, I called it "part one" cos I usually have to split the clips cos they're over 10 mins. This concerto is the only one I've uploaded where I've not had to do any splitting. Sometimes there's about 6 parts to 3 movements so I call them by their parts to avoid confusion.
Phew! Uploading is a major drag! Whatever it takes to make the job easier!
@tametataphysika I don't really like this version at all either. it kills the baroque feel and the whole articulation of it. I played the accompaniiment for it 2 years ago (on double bass) and loved how everything just fit together. at 1:49 i dont like how the male violinist puts the extra pause in his solo section. it throws it off.
Do you know what? I think that Andrew Manze is THE most overrated barque violinist alive. I personally know people who play much better. Rachel should be playing first. But I think that Andrew must be a great businessman and that's why hes gotten so far.
no, just the pitch... you can tune them yourself to it,.. no difference in the actual instrument. i think they play there A to 412Hz instead of 443.5 Hz
We are not weird. We move around to the beat. It keeps in time as well as it is fun. In my own opinion anyway. Why wouldn't you want to move around when playing a fun piece??
when i see videos like this one (i do not want to say a single word against rachel podger's playing!) i ask that myself (i'm a violinist myself).
i almost don't like any aspect of manze's playing, i have to say! intonation, manner of playing, fingerings... aaah!! i do not understand how violinist that well-known can play a piece like this in such a bad way! it almost seems he hasn't touched his violin for some months... i'm perplexed!
i think neither no movement at all (like hilary hahn) nor a lot of movement is a good thing. i guess the best is medium: moving only a bit, just like it seems natural.
I'm baffled why you would like Rachel Podger's playing but not Manze's. Their style is very similar and they are extremely well matched here. The musical interaction is on a very high level and it's obvious they enjoy playing together. As for intonation, I don't hear any problem with his intonation. (I am also a violinist.)
omfg like my interpretation of this song isn't like this. They are playing it to happy. makes me sick. The song should sound dark and powerful with strong staccato.
@neskoncnost Are you really making that comment on a serious basis? Look at the score. Obviously you do not play and it wouldn't then make sense to you. Sorry to offend but you have no idea what you are talking about.
@neskoncnost Just be careful using phrases like "It has to be" with regard to musical interpretation. We may be more familiar and therefore comfortable with certain styles of play, but there's no call to say "it isn't this or that" unless it's played to our liking. Many people love Biondi's Vivaldi, for instance, and many hate it, but you can't say he isn't playing Vivaldi.
there are many schools of thought as to how bach should be played, its usually to personal preference so theres not "wrong way" unless youre playing in a completely wrong style
I'm sorry to say this, but Manze's playing is pretty poor here. Messy sound, faulty intonation, wayward rhythm - so different from how he sounds on his studio recordings, that it's hard to believe it's the same performer. Podger outshines him by far.
I'm sure you can find "sheet music for the harpsichord" created by some editor.
But a professional harpsichordist would not play from "sheet music for the harpsichord".
The harpsichord part is not written out.
The left hand plays the bass line and the right hand realizes an accompaniment from the composer's figured bass notation, a kind of shorthand for chords. The player varies the fullness of his accompaniment depending what's going on in the music.
yea. i think it was a mistake and he made it again so it would like it was on purpose. which shows hes a superb violinst. and lol he moves really fun. but its beautifully played and has a sound thats old, not modern! it sounds historically acurate and great.
To see people playing differently and breaking the rules taught in the conservatory for years can be embittering to some and sacrilegious to others... these reactions are normal.
i didn't understand this way of playing at first. But i always keep an open mind. :-)
i first listend to this concerto since i was about 13, there was a taped recording my grandparents had of these two little girls about 6 and 8 playing this concerto and i'm 18 now and still in love with its charm
and an fyi, the reason musicians get into the music is BECAUSE they are enjoying it. if don't love the piece and enjoy the piece ur playing, ur piece would have no life and u would not be into it at all.
there is nothing "bad" about rachel podger. she enjoys playing in a very baroque manner that is different from other great concertos. i'm a violinist myself, and i know how fun it is to play this piece, and how hard they are. so anyone who doesn't like rachel podger back off. andrew manze on the other hand, was not very good. he sounds much better on his recordings.
im having issues understanding why everyone is talking so bad about their style of performance. at a performance it is professional to smile, and many players do the exaggerated emotions. many do it to keep time. i play for the orchestra at lamont school of music at du, i had a professor from juliard and have played with pinchas zukerman himself. the fact you think these movments show bad playing proves you need to pay more attention to music above a third grade level.
btw, I am a musician, and what's up with that comment "If you were a musician you'd understand?" You think musicians have some sort of club with a bunch of secrets? Anyone who listens to classical music knows what it is to get into the music, otherwise we'd all be listening to pop.
All the musicians you named had they're styles, but Andrew Manze's style is to play badly on purpose? Does he think that performers at Bach's time sounded like that?
Fun is boring. They enjoy playing it, but I don't enjoy listening to it. And if enjoyment is all they're getting, then they're really not into the piece, they're just into themselves for thinking that they're so good and so likeable that we can just sit here and listen to their crappy playing but still be drawn to the performance because they are smiling at us. It's like they're performing for 90 year-olds!
More so than some Bach, this is a really joyful piece of music. Why shouldn't the musicians have fun -- and show it -- while playing such incredible music? I feel sorry for anybody who thinks "happy" is shallow. He'd probably be a major hater.
hmmmm...I kinda don't like his style.
Djangolulu 1 week ago
is it just me or did the first soloist in introducing the first solo, at 0:59 did he add an extra note. The solo is suppose to be f a e g d g, climbing down, but he climbed down from A., thus resulting in having to play a triplet instead of two 16ths to make up for the extra note.
iwilltakeyourmoney 2 weeks ago
Not the best performance, no. 1. They play too fast overall. 2. They (the guy especially) seems to be too hectic.
fanbrazil11 1 month ago
my god just wish i ould play the violin like her....
TheMaskwa 1 month ago
Rachel Podger's hair is awesome :)
emtave2008 1 month ago
It has nothing to do with the key that Bach wrote in. If you were reading the music, the key signature would be the same. It' s the pitch that is different. They are playing at Baroque pitch,
A 415, not A440.
idasusanhedges 1 month ago
@idasusanhedges People often write "I wish I could play like him (or her)" but I wish I could recognise that Baroque pitch also. ;~)
NovaScotiaChick 1 month ago
the man makes mistakes in rhythms and plays apogiaturas there there's nothing. Moreover, there no balance with the musical level between him an the 2nd violin, who is really good. Royalty Free Classical Music Symphony Orchestra, under the direction of Dr. Keith J. Salmon, THIS one is really better, enonciating, and showing differents articulations of score voices. And here, no mistakes in 1st violin !!!!!!
SocrateAdmirer 1 month ago
@alexmckee123 They're playing this in the key Bach wrote it in. Everything's a half-step lower.
TheArtOfSimming 2 months ago
wrong key..not nice!
alexmckee123 2 months ago
That guy moves way too much. I understand he's conducting the orchestra, but it's distracting and funny to watch.
surfboy 2 months ago
all that sawing away , and nothing happening . two bores.
dziady1 3 months ago
I expect a bit better intonation and less misses on this level. And the tempo is leaning in every direction.
PEAinSwe 3 months ago
Thanks. Good stuff.
SKrox24 3 months ago
Wowww. They were playing so so so good. And there was a REAL harpsichord at the back, could hear its tinkling sound.
vess1028 4 months ago
i like Manze and even bought the cd
leontud 6 months ago
Ugh, I really dislike the little personal twists Manze adds to the solos. They just make the song sound off to me
tshea14lol 6 months ago
Why is this performance in C# minor, not D minor?!
SpudIllusionPictures 7 months ago
@SpudIllusionPictures It IS in D minor! They tune their instruments in the Baroque pitch (A = 415 Hz) rather than the modern pitch (A = 440 Hz).
VERITS99 6 months ago
@VERITS99 Ah! Thanks!
SpudIllusionPictures 6 months ago
@neskoncnost How do you know if this is not just the way Bach intended this piece to be played and you are wrong? How can you be so sure of your statement?
inohope 8 months ago
Why is Andrew Manze so stiff when playing this? 0.o
cheecheepong 8 months ago
i dont think hes messing up i think hes just adding some spice
rrgoodsalad 8 months ago
Minutes 1:00 to 1:04, Manze playing, he messed up.
chinitowon 9 months ago
@chinitowon it's not that he's messing up.. baroque sheet music is just usually a guid line. For the most part the soloist are free to play the peice however they damn well please, wich is why baroque music (solist) a lot of improv in the music or recording they play. This particiular video has a crap load or inprov that it's completly obvious and not writen in the music itself (i have the music and have played it myself) and 1:00 to 1:04 would be part of that "improv" in how he's playing it.
dracublah 7 months ago
so strange..
pqrsut 9 months ago
How annoying that guys moves too much when he plays.
surfboy 9 months ago
Man! They made that look fun to play.
MrJustinreese 9 months ago
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VaniaEmerald 10 months ago 18
@VaniaEmerald do you notice something else? you try playing a baroque violin! no chin or shoulder rest and take a good look at the bow.
M1993Michelle 8 months ago
@VaniaEmerald yes the male violinist icant count!!!! or read music for that matter! hes coming in WAY to late
stevonasr 5 months ago
@VaniaEmerald I think he's trying to hold onto the note for full value/extend it. I've heard it a few times on other recordings, but this one sounds really off.
Nukefuzion 5 months ago
@Nukefuzion This is not your "regular" violin. its a special type of violin that's meant to be tuned half step down, so the strings from lowest to highest are: F, C#, G#, and D#
Warlias97 5 months ago
@Warlias97 What are you referring to?
I was talking about note value/rhythm, not pitch.
Did you reply to the wrong person?
Nukefuzion 5 months ago
Respond to this video... Very old style.... my viola teacher has one of those.
Warlias97 5 months ago
Bach is sexy - that's for sure.
violinhunter2 10 months ago
what a treat to hear what it would actually have sounded like back then!
gymnast768 10 months ago
congratuletions
visitador61 1 year ago
this rendition is amazing. but Manze is a bit disappointing here
anisometropie 1 year ago
excellent!!!
ahim24 1 year ago
I love Rachel . I have many cd . I love her clear and crystal sound.Her Vivaldi Stravaganza is heavenly.
But I prefer to listen her and not to watch her . Why she agitate and shake herself so much while she's playing , in so much funny way? And her partner Manze too...
They do not communicate the solemnity and the emotion of what are playing .
It's seems they are introducing " Henry the Horse dances the Walts" in a circus arena.
Love
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I love Podger. I have many cd. Clear and crystal sound. Perfect register.
But I prefer to listen her and not to watch her. Why she agitate and shake herself so much while is playng in so funny way? Her partner too.....
They do not communicate the solemnity and the emotion of what are playng. It's seems they're introducing " Henry the Horse dances the walts" in a circus arena.
Love
dragonetto1 1 year ago
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dragonetto1 I love the Podger. I have many cd . Perfect register. Crystal clear sound. But I prefer to listen her and not see her . Why she moves so 'much while is playng? She's playng Bach , but it seems she's introducing "Henry the Horse dances the waltz." in in a circus arena
dragonetto1 1 year ago
@twunk12 wow u got good hearing ive heard this song a bunch of times and i still cant tell
Sk8tergirl439 1 year ago
what a sound...
sidemannn 1 year ago
Why does Manze keep adding those pauses in his solo bits and then rushing the descending scale part? It just ruins the flow of it. Was it an intention change or just a lack of understand of the song? I know it's an improvisation that may be meant to add feeling to the song but it just doesn't work.
twunk12 1 year ago 10
@twunk12 you're completely right. I was just thinking the same thing.
slinkyinawagon 1 year ago
@twunk12 you're completely right. I was just thinking the same thing. Well, the baroque fashion calls for slowing the lower notes and such, but that's mainly for solo pieces. This is backed by an orchestra, so it sounds bad.
slinkyinawagon 1 year ago
@twunk12 "Song"? Really? You can't be taken seriously if you call it a song. It's a piece.
M1993Michelle 8 months ago
@M1993Michelle Who cares what it's called, as long as it sounds the same. Anyway, that comment was added over 7 months ago, so I really don't remember the time or circumstances that it was written in. Anyway, at least I didn't call it a tune or something even more ridiculous.
twunk12 8 months ago
@M1993Michelle yo chillax no need to get ure knickers in a knot lets just sit back and enjoy the music
rrgoodsalad 8 months ago
@twunk12 Yeah, but Podger does this too! Listen to 1:40!
fanbrazil11 1 month ago
always loved rachel podger
violinwithluv 1 year ago
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Tantal6 1 year ago
Manze's level is simply too low for playing recitals. Podger by contrast is a true star.
gpesp 1 year ago
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rororosie1987 1 year ago
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rosalbasemiplena 1 year ago 3
thumbs up if u are 121909 viewer
CruelZacrifize 1 year ago
ES REALMENTE PRECIOSO EN SU SENCILLEZ!!!!!!!!!!
empereur66 1 year ago
What is the name of this concert hall?
god4938 1 year ago
@god4938
That's the Royal Albert Hall in London.
glorendil 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS SOO MUCH! i only wish i could play as good as them
MICHINATOR1 1 year ago
I dont know why bach's music remind me a huge piece of yogurt cake
very good playing
peaarn 1 year ago
Awful of pitch playing. Utterly flat, why doesn't anybody tell them?
MrGufidaun 1 year ago
@MrGufidaun Um, they're playing at baroque pitch, about a semi-tone flatter than modern pitch (a=440)
rororosie1987 1 year ago
Love the interpretation.
halneufmille 1 year ago
This isn't in D minor is it?
Chipz1515 1 year ago
@Chipz1515 It's at baroque pitch.
rororosie1987 1 year ago
@rororosie1987 Ah, I see.
Chipz1515 1 year ago
@rororosie1987 The pitch is totally irrelevant as long as they are unable to play right intervalls IN TUNE owing to technical difficulties - or they were unable to tune their instruments. It's simply AWFUL! A little practicing of scales with a tape recorder could help ...
MrGufidaun 1 year ago
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@MrGufidaun
'A little practicing [sic] of scales with a tape recorder would help...' wow!! That's a little harsh, no?
But then I check out your channel and all your recent comments are the same: patronising, scathing, not in the least bit constructive. How liberating it must be to hide anonymously behind a YouTube username to criticize those who are infinitely more talented than yourself!
rororosie1987 1 year ago
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rororosie1987 1 year ago
This performance has the good energy!
u05bd6 1 year ago
nor part one.. movement one!!
the16Hobitt 1 year ago 3
@the16Hobitt
I know it's movement one, I called it "part one" cos I usually have to split the clips cos they're over 10 mins. This concerto is the only one I've uploaded where I've not had to do any splitting. Sometimes there's about 6 parts to 3 movements so I call them by their parts to avoid confusion.
Phew! Uploading is a major drag! Whatever it takes to make the job easier!
Oxy151268 1 year ago 7
@the16Hobitt
first movement =]
yantsoi1 5 months ago
ANDREW MANZE=GOD!!!!!!
Obroten 1 year ago
Wow people commenting play instruments ? Now I don't feel alone .
CheechPuppy08 1 year ago
i usually adore Baroque but this version is very peculiar to my ears..
tametataphysika 1 year ago
@tametataphysika I don't really like this version at all either. it kills the baroque feel and the whole articulation of it. I played the accompaniiment for it 2 years ago (on double bass) and loved how everything just fit together. at 1:49 i dont like how the male violinist puts the extra pause in his solo section. it throws it off.
billiethecow 1 year ago
I love how they added alittle gypsy twist to it.
Phillyguy30 1 year ago
that man looks like a turtle
gymnast768 1 year ago
Ehhh... I really don't like how that male soloist plays...
AEFic 1 year ago 2
Incrível performance!
Andreynax 1 year ago
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lbgees 2 years ago
What an idiotic comment.
musicmatt09 1 year ago
OMG! I love this version! The baroque is so good!
MHBDENDIEVEL 2 years ago
The play this piece, I feel adrenaline throughout my body. A master piece composed for the violin.
DarkLoveFashion 2 years ago 2
tbh the guy is quite awfull.. god knows how he got to play solo at BBC Proms..
bajae135 2 years ago
Do you know what? I think that Andrew Manze is THE most overrated barque violinist alive. I personally know people who play much better. Rachel should be playing first. But I think that Andrew must be a great businessman and that's why hes gotten so far.
violatione 2 years ago 2
@violatione Haha i know :L im not being cocky or anything, but i honestly would say i was better than him...
bajae135 2 years ago
It's using a lower pitch for the A, probably A 415 instead of A 440.
Skatesmen55 2 years ago
It sounds like it is in a different key than most versions. Shouldn't it be in D minor?
Baytuch 2 years ago
i noticed their using Baroque instruments. Is there any difference in sound between those and modern instruments?
lolturtle13 2 years ago
no, just the pitch... you can tune them yourself to it,.. no difference in the actual instrument. i think they play there A to 412Hz instead of 443.5 Hz
bajae135 2 years ago
Rachel Podger is so cute! And they're both great violinists. I am playing this piece now and I "am" Rachel.
LolliepopT 2 years ago
v---As well as it is like expressing yourself.
Fangneko 2 years ago
We are not weird. We move around to the beat. It keeps in time as well as it is fun. In my own opinion anyway. Why wouldn't you want to move around when playing a fun piece??
Fangneko 2 years ago 15
so true. thats what makes us so amazing :)
lolturtle13 2 years ago
@Fangneko Us musicians preform music, not dance. If you concentrate more on the music you can do so much more for the audience.
TheJessegyr 3 months ago
gaah string players are so weird! why must they move so much when they play?
PurpleUkuleleGuy 2 years ago
when i see videos like this one (i do not want to say a single word against rachel podger's playing!) i ask that myself (i'm a violinist myself).
i almost don't like any aspect of manze's playing, i have to say! intonation, manner of playing, fingerings... aaah!! i do not understand how violinist that well-known can play a piece like this in such a bad way! it almost seems he hasn't touched his violin for some months... i'm perplexed!
viola989 1 year ago 3
do you not like manze's movements? maybe that's what you're ataken back by. I'm just saying. some people like movement while others don't!
Tchaikovsky09 1 year ago
it seems you're right.
i think neither no movement at all (like hilary hahn) nor a lot of movement is a good thing. i guess the best is medium: moving only a bit, just like it seems natural.
viola989 1 year ago
@viola989
I'm baffled why you would like Rachel Podger's playing but not Manze's. Their style is very similar and they are extremely well matched here. The musical interaction is on a very high level and it's obvious they enjoy playing together. As for intonation, I don't hear any problem with his intonation. (I am also a violinist.)
priscianusjr 1 year ago
Both violinists are great, although I'm not so sure about the audience who clapped between movements!
awyliu 2 years ago
both and all of them great
omss2999 2 years ago 3
what bwv is that?
freitasnetuno 2 years ago
It's BWV1043.
mallorga1965 2 years ago
I don't like the fact that the last chord (note) has the 3rd very pronounced.. i rather have more of the root in there.
u05ikoren 2 years ago
i think there's too much rubato.
There's nothing wrong doing some rubato, but overdoing doesnt sound that good.
lazyypigg 2 years ago
I don´t think it´s in a different key, I guess it`s just a matter of 420 Hz pitch.
What is wrong with Manze? He seems an amateur compared to Podger.
Kaulfield 2 years ago 2
ITS IN A DIFFERENT KEY!
lazyypigg 2 years ago
no its still in d minor, they're just using baroque tuning which is flat compared to the modern 440 Hz tunning, they tuned to about a 415 Hz i think?
BBRENTTAGHAPP 2 years ago 3
omfg like my interpretation of this song isn't like this. They are playing it to happy. makes me sick. The song should sound dark and powerful with strong staccato.
MrAnimeFreak777 2 years ago
But if you play like that (dark and with staccato), this isn't Bach anymore. It has to be light, but with defined notes (without messy sound).
neskoncnost 2 years ago 10
How do u know what bach is... He doesn't put anything down in his music cept notes. How would u know?
MrAnimeFreak777 2 years ago 3
@neskoncnost Are you really making that comment on a serious basis? Look at the score. Obviously you do not play and it wouldn't then make sense to you. Sorry to offend but you have no idea what you are talking about.
grbtruck 1 year ago
@neskoncnost I agree. I'm not impressed with this version
camilocuesta 1 year ago
@neskoncnost Just be careful using phrases like "It has to be" with regard to musical interpretation. We may be more familiar and therefore comfortable with certain styles of play, but there's no call to say "it isn't this or that" unless it's played to our liking. Many people love Biondi's Vivaldi, for instance, and many hate it, but you can't say he isn't playing Vivaldi.
bottre73 6 months ago
there are many schools of thought as to how bach should be played, its usually to personal preference so theres not "wrong way" unless youre playing in a completely wrong style
BBRENTTAGHAPP 2 years ago
but u hav to agree with me that notes that are flat sound darker.
MrAnimeFreak777 2 years ago
hmm now that you said that, they do.
BBRENTTAGHAPP 2 years ago
Horrible
Oistrakh3 2 years ago
urghhh
AMANDACOMCAST28 2 years ago
maravilloso..
JESHUAN01 2 years ago
I'm sorry to say this, but Manze's playing is pretty poor here. Messy sound, faulty intonation, wayward rhythm - so different from how he sounds on his studio recordings, that it's hard to believe it's the same performer. Podger outshines him by far.
michaelmartind 2 years ago
I have to agree with michaelmartind, but the tempo is to fast..That could explain his messy sound and wayward rhythm.
She plays wonderfully
robertohsp 2 years ago
How beautiful!
This is what Bach meant with his music....
Have your OWN interpretation.
He said always: "so must es klingen erstems"
"it has to be sound like this at first"..
In other words: after that: make the music yourself... with your own interpretation.
paranormaalutrecht 2 years ago
WELL IS THIS A DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENT
DSACELLIST 2 years ago
exageratted*
xxh0r4x3dxx 2 years ago
lol, it's so perfectly in time (over egaggerated movement) that it looks fake.
xxh0r4x3dxx 2 years ago
nice.
KissinCoffin 2 years ago
perfectly orchestrated!!
sidve 2 years ago
1.42
euforiayangustia 2 years ago
great.....I love this concert and the players are the best!!
helena2isy 2 years ago 3
I love this song, I'm currently working on it. :]
DebbieGoRawr 2 years ago
Do you have the sheet music for the harpsichord? :)
Ychiduodumat 2 years ago
I'm sure you can find "sheet music for the harpsichord" created by some editor.
But a professional harpsichordist would not play from "sheet music for the harpsichord".
The harpsichord part is not written out.
The left hand plays the bass line and the right hand realizes an accompaniment from the composer's figured bass notation, a kind of shorthand for chords. The player varies the fullness of his accompaniment depending what's going on in the music.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 2
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the guy player is horrible
nejirox09 2 years ago
You mean Andrew Manze? He is one of the most amazing baroque violinists there is.
jprush 2 years ago 4
This is soooo much slower than Hilary Hahn ! Honestly I think she plays Bach the best ! Listen to it it's just amazing, it's the purest thing ever.
And besides the guy doesn't respect the ryhm dureing his solos ...
saykheo 2 years ago
But it's not using a baroque violin like those 2.
95thRiflesOCI 2 years ago 3
Hahn is fine, it you don't mind the Gypsy violin sound of metal strings and heavy vibrato.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 2
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check out my video of me playing this :)
bffAlli 2 years ago
the glassed violinist had a mistake at 1:01
OferG87 2 years ago
Yeah i noticed that.
Piano8Forte 2 years ago
if it's the little delay you are talking about, I think its on purpose. I am not sure though..
ysoner 2 years ago 2
I mean a mistake of the text, he played the wrong note(s).
Piano8Forte 2 years ago
i think he plays rubato for the turns and ornaments to sound... :>
PeriodinstrumentfaN 2 years ago
i know
chws10099 2 years ago
yea. i think it was a mistake and he made it again so it would like it was on purpose. which shows hes a superb violinst. and lol he moves really fun. but its beautifully played and has a sound thats old, not modern! it sounds historically acurate and great.
gymnast768 2 years ago
they should read more historical texts and listen to less rock music
stepag64 2 years ago
AWESOME PIECE! VERY HELPFUL! THANKS.
MattWGuitar123 2 years ago
another great post
vunguyen2 2 years ago
To see people playing differently and breaking the rules taught in the conservatory for years can be embittering to some and sacrilegious to others... these reactions are normal.
i didn't understand this way of playing at first. But i always keep an open mind. :-)
PeriodinstrumentfaN 2 years ago
These musicians are "Rebels" (pun) and i like them. Afterall it still is a question of taste.
PeriodinstrumentfaN 2 years ago
I think that hoopsmaster's probably just jealous because he can't play as well as Rachel Podger or Andrew Manze. Let's see what he comes back with.
jyseow 2 years ago 2
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PeriodinstrumentfaN 2 years ago
I don't see how hooper there sees these two as arrogant
6179301948 2 years ago 2
I love this Concerto to
azilor 2 years ago
i first listend to this concerto since i was about 13, there was a taped recording my grandparents had of these two little girls about 6 and 8 playing this concerto and i'm 18 now and still in love with its charm
Rheesoman 2 years ago
hoopsmaster 13, i'm sorry to sa, but you'll meet with the devil in hell with your devilish theories.
23danb 2 years ago
amazing
imanseven 2 years ago
omg the bowing is so smooth that it has a gentle sound so amazing!
XxRyomaKunxX 2 years ago
Their style is interesting! They really put their own personal touch into their playing. I enjoyed listening to it very much. :)
PinkYachi 3 years ago
exactly. people who think if you are animated you are fake should really go talk to someone like yo yo ma.
Spartanskull001 3 years ago
and an fyi, the reason musicians get into the music is BECAUSE they are enjoying it. if don't love the piece and enjoy the piece ur playing, ur piece would have no life and u would not be into it at all.
Mendolssohn 3 years ago
there is nothing "bad" about rachel podger. she enjoys playing in a very baroque manner that is different from other great concertos. i'm a violinist myself, and i know how fun it is to play this piece, and how hard they are. so anyone who doesn't like rachel podger back off. andrew manze on the other hand, was not very good. he sounds much better on his recordings.
Mendolssohn 3 years ago
im having issues understanding why everyone is talking so bad about their style of performance. at a performance it is professional to smile, and many players do the exaggerated emotions. many do it to keep time. i play for the orchestra at lamont school of music at du, i had a professor from juliard and have played with pinchas zukerman himself. the fact you think these movments show bad playing proves you need to pay more attention to music above a third grade level.
Spartanskull001 3 years ago
btw, I am a musician, and what's up with that comment "If you were a musician you'd understand?" You think musicians have some sort of club with a bunch of secrets? Anyone who listens to classical music knows what it is to get into the music, otherwise we'd all be listening to pop.
All the musicians you named had they're styles, but Andrew Manze's style is to play badly on purpose? Does he think that performers at Bach's time sounded like that?
hoopsmaster13 3 years ago
Fun is boring. They enjoy playing it, but I don't enjoy listening to it. And if enjoyment is all they're getting, then they're really not into the piece, they're just into themselves for thinking that they're so good and so likeable that we can just sit here and listen to their crappy playing but still be drawn to the performance because they are smiling at us. It's like they're performing for 90 year-olds!
hoopsmaster13 3 years ago
More so than some Bach, this is a really joyful piece of music. Why shouldn't the musicians have fun -- and show it -- while playing such incredible music? I feel sorry for anybody who thinks "happy" is shallow. He'd probably be a major hater.
davehshs 3 years ago
wow a bunch of haters...
come on guys - they're playing bach baroque style at bbc proms, where people are clapping after the first movement.
and if they ham it up a little bit so what - they are still fantastic musicians with a lot of integrity.
listen to their cd - academy of ancient music - one of my most favorite cds.
keetheman 3 years ago
Solo part are not good
diabolico5 3 years ago
i love the trills they add to the arpegio parts
tanakarf 3 years ago
he looks so funny bobbing his head like that...he looks autistic lol
SAPI3NS 3 years ago
Wonderful playing - it really comes alive. Happy birthday Maestro Manze. (January 14) You probably thought I forgot.
violinhunter2 3 years ago
This is perhaps my favorite Bach work of all time. And it's always been about sex to me. (I have a dirty mind, I guess.)
It's an interesting performance but I think a bit too theatrical. Too... "Annie Get Your Gun" I-can-do-anything-ish.
monkeyhawk 3 years ago