ulot use the oldest trick in the book to fool people. . . taking bits out of context to twist the meaning. . . . dispite this Islam is still the fastest growing religion
very good propoganda....chopped and changed OBVIOUSLY and BIASED in its EDITING...the aim of this program is to falsely educate the ignoramus of this world with false sheezy like this!!!!
any bafoon can see that this has been microsoft worskshopped...plzzz?
can they try anything else apart from stupid cheap shots like this daaaaaaaaaamn!
"A true Muslim should not associate with infidels" How nice to hear! As long as there can be nothing but true Muslims, I hope to see you leave . I am an infidel, so are most of the people in the countries you are exploiting. Do as the Koran tells you, leave!
isnt the mosque privately? i have been to youth groups in all my mosques and sunday school, and they do not say it, also christian pastors have said stuff in church that are WAY worse than this, but of course their is only a controversy, but when i muslim does it, its terrorism
@CaligirlSofia : if you really think that muslims do not call for terror then you are wrong since it was mohammed who first taught muslims what islam really is all about. and all muslims are called to obey allah and his messenger .
it was mohammed who said : Bukhari (52:220) - 'I have been made victorious with terror'
when it comes to pastors - if they preach hate then they are not teaching the right thing! so let us debate about what religion teaches us
i have gone to american mosques all my life, i have been to many of them, so i know wat is taught there a lot more than u, lol believe me pastors teach hate all the time, they say to hate muslims, all the time, look up pastor ron pasley, i know a christian girl who tells me that a lot of pastors do that, so its wrong when a christian pastor does it, but when muslims do it, its just muslims being muslims? get a grip and think
u again? i have been to MANY mosques my whole life (in California) and not a SINGLE person spoke hatred, in fact my shieks talked about love, one even said to love jews and christians and that they were going to heaven, another, many have tried to make me christian they have failed so will u, dont judge me for my belief if u dont want others to judge u
@CaligirlSofia You do what you want to do. We see on youtube and other websites allot of the same hatred Islam has for any non-muslim especially Jews yet you say you never heard it. You say, you have been to many mosque's over and over, we get it. Can you comprehend, some mosque do preach hatred? Where in the Quran does it say to love the Jews and Christians? Everything's not about you. I didn't judge you. You portray islam as wonderful. Look around, it's terrible and will get much worse.
@CaligirlSofia ... you are wrong here. We critize all wicked priest. But only muslims say we are islamophopic. There is NO "christianophobic" ... Get the point.
@CaligirlSofia@CaligirlSofia I know through a friend with roots in Canada and Jordan, he has a split Christian and muslim family and he is caught in the middle . He can't stand to go to mosque's in Florida because, they preach hate. Jesus teaches, Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; _____Not all preachers are Godly, Duh! __Find one that is.
ur such an idiot, 1st of all Taquiyya is lying about what faith u r, like pretending not to be muslim, and 2nd of all only shias pratice Taquiyya and all other muslims dont, im not shia so stfu and stop acting dumb
@CaligirlSofia Your an IDIOT !,..for name calling on an open forum ,just like a muslim,. always resort to name calling.You are also in denial ,..muslims lie to suit themselves for any reason.Thats why it's called the religion of HYPOCRITES.Finally you are also lacking in "common courtesy" for not replying to my PM a month ago!! :)
I would laugh about how out of context this programme is..but seriously, its not funny and its doing more damage than good.
I heard a white British policeman in England saying that thieves should have their hands cut off..but then they'd live off other tax payers money. In Saudi, they don't have that..if you can't work, you will not be able to work properly, earn money & will live with the shame forever. I like Saudi, thats why I moved here from my very British heritage!
@Ebuverthebicepcurler because Allah says in the Quran that it is an example of that being Soddom and Gamora also its a serious problem if everyone was gay the human race would be over
@Ebuverthebicepcurler i believe i already did with whole end of creation thing also in order to present you with the Quran i need to know what u believe
@jalilsaif I don't know, I've never faced death like that- maybe I would, maybe I wouldn't- either way it doesn't prove god exist. How many Carthaginians called to pagan gods as Romans murdered them? See, the argument doesn't just prove nothing, it also works for any imaginable person someone might call to in distress.
@jalilsaif Oh, I don't believe in him, because there's no evidence for his existence. That's the very same logic behind not believing in Santa, so I do think I have reason to be godless.
@jalilsaif abiogenisis, evolution, big bang. These idea may not be complete, they may be some areas they don't explain, but they are deduced from evidence- Allah and all other gods are not proven, they are not half as solid.
@Ebuverthebicepcurler i obviously lol would disagree, i believe all these theories lack a true beginning with everything not just our existence but the atoms or products to bring about our beginning. so i say when i see foot prints its a sign that something caused it and so i can deduce that just as everything on earth comes from a creator then the universe came from something which came from something and so on for ever so i say where was the start
@jalilsaif Oh, not knowing the beginning= god did it? But why god? How can you prove it's a god or gods, or anything for that matter? To put it simply, god doesn't fill the gaps any more than the Olympians.
@Ebuverthebicepcurler Olympians were the answer for not understanding god but still were god. Also i would say theories will never substantiate true belief as theories are subject to change it could be tomorrow that the big bang will be tossed out. but the quran will still be relevant. a so called intellectual couldn't deny it.
@jalilsaif Those theories change because they are based on real world evidence- and if evidence shows them to be wrong they are no longer trusted. It's not a sign of weakness, it's a sign of intellectual honesty and a lust for the truth. The Quran will still be relevant? Maybe, but in what way? Is the Quran still relevant when it tells husbands to beat their wives? You wouldn't like to be picking and choosing what you respect and what you don't based on secular criteria- would you?
@Ebuverthebicepcurler ?Quran is and will always be relevant and this verse is probably the most common used to go against the quran it is permissible for a man to do so after admonishing the woman and keeping her in the home ,after that a man can hit but not bruise or hit any sensitive areas also if she would act more outrageous then its not to be done and our prophet never hit any of his wives and he was the best example to man kind
@jalilsaif And I guess these are the fair wages of betrayal and sin against her spouse? But wait!- if you think it's fair for a husband to beat his wife as discipline, why can't a woman beat her husband? The logic should cut both ways. Seems like the quran has a problem...
@jalilsaif I know some woman who could do it, but lets just go with what you say. If a woman can't beat her husband for an offense, isn't is at least fair for her to get another man to do it for her? It would be unjust if the only person capable of being punished in a relationship is a woman.
@Ebuverthebicepcurler also i would say that these things are without reason when has any theory explained creation somehow a chaotic explosion brings about perfect function. Allah says in the Quran that he separated the heaven and earth which left about dust which created the planets and he says that the universe is ever expanding now i in no way say that science proves Allah but the opposite that Allah proves science never as is book been proven wrong 1400 years and still proving sciences
@jalilsaif And I would say the theories are fairly strong. As I said, The blind watchmakers, a Richard Dawkins documentary does a good job of explaining the creation of life from chance.
@jalilsaif At the quantum level things do seem to act randomly, so we grudgingly admit at least the appearance of randomness and chance in the universe.
@Ebuverthebicepcurler ok well i mean if you dont believe in a creator i cant convince you of anything religiously so i believe as of now the randomness is all you have but Allah says in the Quran that until one acknowledges him there would be no guidance
@jalilsaif If you can prove allah only in a religious fashion(faith) then you have cast yourself in the same illogical as belief in faeries or in other false gods. Hopefully you see the danger in faith being the only way to god, and how it is so untrustworthy.
@Ebuverthebicepcurler i mean 4 u Allah is evident to me by everything around me and i combined that with reading the Quran and finding no fault in it i follow it and theres no fault if your right but if i am then your in bad shape but at the same time i acknowledge that there are many different views on god, and in the end your conclusions and mine will differ and we will live accordingly
@jalilsaif Evidence for allah is everywhere- okay- prove how that works out. How exactly does all the stuff around you prove allah is real? Sounds more emotional than logical.
that guy said you can see evil in their face (the disbeliever), yet you can see in his face he is full of anger. What good is it to live in anger and die to enter paradise with other angry people.
i have seen all 4 videos, they are all here. u only aloud to have 10 mins for the videos on Youtube, so it is in all for parts and i seen them all here. they r number'd
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this made me laugh, it is absolutely ridiculus!!!!!!! Seriously they have cut tiny bits of those preachers speeches and put it back together as they choose. Anyone could do that to any religion. Take things out of context, take examples they have given and make it sound as they want. These people are just speading hate for the muslim people. Its very sad really. Wouldnt it be nice if all people of all religions could just respect each other for their beliefs.
Are you fucking kidding me? please.. for the love of God - Allah - please JUSTIFY WHAT THEY SAY! PLEASE Put in in CONTEXT! Hate is hate. And this is making me hate. Didn't used to hate. But now my hate is squared yours. DO NOT MESS with strong women! You can keep YOUR women down. But women in the U.S. will have you by the balls before you even try this BS!
@TomboysTv please the US women are the weakest of all. they are used like whores and down their women and as for hate you can hate it won't change anything ever.
@Vedantka: you havent heard of the Crusades then. The Inquisition, the 'missionary work' in South America, Africa. The ongoing scandals of sex abuse, assault and murder claims against the Catholic Church. Hindus and Muslims have had a long history of massacring each other. Need I go on? Religion at its core is evil. Look at it from a historical and rational POV. It has done nothing to enhance the human experience
@paddyleblanc Of course I know about the Crusades and Christian missionary and inquisition BUT one evil does not excuse the other.As to Hinduism you get it very wrong as India was invaded by Muslims and India is the only country that Islam did not manage to convert completely or in great majority.Hindus had no choice but to defend themselves,now they also have huge problem with Christian crazy missionaries.But Hinduism at its core is very peaceful/tolerant and NON proselytizing.
@paddyleblancNo.The proper answer to this very bad situation would be official(done by Indian government)banning of all organized christian missionary activities or islamic proselytizing.Individual change of religion is a private thing but manipulating people(especially uneducated poor ones) by organized efforts into these religions is not acceptable.But of course,it will not happen,at least not now as Indian government is actually very anti Hindu.
@paddyleblanc If the Hindus get violent,they do not do it in the name of religion but as reaction to violent or aggressive acts done by Muslims or new born Indian Christians.There are so many Hindu sects(all rooting from Sanatana Dharma) so many Hindu Gods,so many interpretations of Vedas but they never got violent to each other,tolerance was the foundation of them.But once faced by Islam or fanatic Christian missionaries,tolerance does NOT work but becomes suicidal.
@Vedantka You are clearly deluded. But then most religious belief does that to people. If you say that 'Hindus get violent...as reaction to [violence]' then by definition you are taking about violent Hindus. If this is a nationalistic question then why say Hindus at all. We are talking about religion. As for tolerance being the foundation of all Hindu sects.... ahem... the caste system and all that entails? Subjugation of women? Wake up! Youre living in la-la land.
@paddyleblanc You have to study the history of India.Before Islam & Christianity they never had religious wars,only social/political & ALWAYS temples were respected.The caste system is everywhere in the world just by different name or no name.When you are a cleaning person,you will never be allowed to the circle of professors,etc.The original caste system(as described in scriptures) was a perfect social system based on individual talents(not birth!),later it got perverted as everything nowadays
@Vedantka The cleaning person analogy: if Im that person I have the opportunity to study and become a professor. There maybe many obstacles, mainly socio-economic but religion will not be one of them. The original caste system as described in scriptures was perfect? So was the garden of eden in the Christian bible. Neither are much in evidence today are they? So what perverted it then? I also notice you failed to touch on subjugation of women
@paddyleblanc The Vedic scriptures did not give a woman independence per say,however they strongly emphasized that a woman should be protected and well cared of by a man,otherwise there would be no success and happiness in the family.You have to differ between the scriptures and some modern incorrect interpretations.The correct interpretation of Koran eg is to fight and kill literally in the cause of Allah,so Islam is soaked in blood of innocent people.No other religion has such a doctrine.
@Vedantka Nonsense. The Christian bible is filled with situations when it is acceptable to kill. Read the old testament. I have to differ betweens the scriptures and some modern interpretation? Again; nonsense. Communism in theory is a fantastic ideology but in practise not so hot, why? Soiled with human mud. Religion is the same. To say that in theory that a religion is pure and tolerant but to see evil & intolerance being exercised is its name on a daily basis is delusional.
@paddyleblanc I think there is no way to bridge the believer in God with atheist.I do believe in God very deeply and I was searching for the best explanation,which I've found in Vedas.It is pure spiritual science that has nothing to do with material world.But that's O.K. if others are not interested.The problem is that even if we both talk in English actually our ontology on this particular subject is so different that we can never come to any understanding.
@paddyleblanc Non-violence to someone who threatens you or your family/country etc is actually worse than violence as it is a natural human instinct and duty to protect your own life or your freedom.According to Sanatana Dharma you are allowed to kill in self defense and that is absolutely correct.Mahatma Gandhi was not following this principal and it caused life to almost million of people during the 1947 partition.
@Vedantka Ahh, you see you tried to correct your own error here. As far as Im concerned organised religion is simply another tool of the elite to subjugate the masses. That is not to say that I dont see the value in spirituality, indeed the world needs more contemplation and less mindless obedience to dogmatic ritual which leads to defence. Always; this is the human condition: when people group together to share an indentity they will kill for it, be in nationalism, political ideology or
@Vedantka Ahh, you see you tried to correct your own error here. As far as Im concerned organised religion is simply another tool of the elite to subjugate the masses. That is not to say that I dont see the value in spirituality, indeed the world needs more contemplation and less mindless obedience to dogmatic ritual which leads to defence. Always; this is the human condition: when people group together to share an indentity they will kill for it, be in nationalism, political ideology or
@paddyleblanc In India religion was always local around some enlightened guru or saint,it was never like Islam or Christianity.Every local temple even now has a bit different approach and if they do not agree they try to win by spiritual dialogue to prove whose point is right.All questions and answers are allowed.Nobody kills for different point of view.
@paddyleblanc The most important Vedic contribution to spirituality is meditation and quest for the knowledge of the self.Yoga and meditation are from Vedas,even if Western world adopted them into something different from the origin they still have the power to bring peace and calmness.
@Vedantka cont'd: religious belief. Any amount of analysis of scripture, old or new, cannot take from the FACT that religion has led to, and will always ultimately lead to, human conflict.
@Vedantka cont'd: religious belief. Any amount of analysis of scripture, old or new, cannot take from the FACT that religion has led to, and will always ultimately lead to, human conflict.
@Vedantka cont'd: religious belief. Any amount of analysis of scripture, old or new, cannot take from the FACT that religion has led to, and will always ultimately lead to, human conflict.
@Vedantka cont'd: religious belief. Any amount of analysis of scripture, old or new, cannot take from the FACT that religion has led to, and will always ultimately lead to, human conflict.
@Vedantka cont'd: so you can quote me all the ancient scripture you want but it doesnt take from the fact that the vast majority of Hindu women, for example those in rural India, have been treated as second class citizens. Furthermore the caste system ensures that entire groups of people are treated the same. The murder of people, be they missionaries or not, in the name of religion is an act of evil. Full stop.
@paddyleblanc Modern Western societies do not provide any amazing solution.Yes,women have rights but they also have so much responsibilities & most women end up doing double job as the work at home is a huge job.Children also suffer as they are not brought up by mothers but by institutions.We are not happy culture in spite of all the progress.So evil exists among atheists,too.There are scientific studies that show that those who love God are simply more peaceful inside.The key word here is LOVE.
@Vedantka First apolgies for the double entries there, tech glitch. I never suggested that western society had or has any solution. In fact I believe quite the opposite. The system creates a false happiness for a few and a yearning for more in the masses. Evil will always exist in the world. My point is that I see little evidence of religion balancing the scales with good. I am not an athiest by the way, my spiritual experiences have been a personal voyage. I am dubious of teachers cont'd
@Vedantka of any text as they are open to such varied interpretation that almost anything can be justified in the name of God. Ergo I dont align myself to any particular belief system. As B. Russell said "I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong" to expand upon this I would never kill for my beliefs for the same reason.
@paddyleblanc My point is that Vedic scriptures teach love for God and it is almost impossible to find anything about love in Old Testament or Quran.So it is not good to put all religions to the same group.There were NEVER wars done in the name of Vedic God/Gods but there were many wars in the name of Jesus or Allah.There was inquisition in the name of Jesus and missionary killings in the same name.Many customs in India are social customs not religious.
@Vedantka social customes not religious: therein lies a huge problem. Religions teach followers about societal norms and customs. The purpose of religion is to become fused into all aspects of life. Hence you will see, as I have in my country, the close ties of church and state which give religious leaders huge amounts of power. Power does to the 'holy' as is does to most people ... corrupts
this is supposed to be the second part - but look on my channel's description: there is a link to google.video with the full movie about "undercover mosque"
Britain is becoming as backward as Islam. Pity.
norwidify 1 month ago
To the sister who says that Muslims should live in Muslim countries. First of all there is not such a thing as "Muslim country" :O
Second of all: What are you doing in UK?
IslamPolskaDotCom 2 months ago
People like you make me belive that religious people are only obsessed fanatics.
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Glov00 9 months ago
islam is the only right religion
proud to be Muslum and to be from saudi arabia
drblueknight 1 year ago
ulot use the oldest trick in the book to fool people. . . taking bits out of context to twist the meaning. . . . dispite this Islam is still the fastest growing religion
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SuperFeimer 1 year ago
Wow, religious people are idiots.. Thats not news.
Hissmannen 1 year ago
religion sucks
nickzah 1 year ago
The real face of Islam in Europa. Europa should destroy all mosques.
TheNewVideos 1 year ago
sad brainwashed lil pawns
super17a 1 year ago
This is a load of crap. Sheikh Khalid Yasin is not an extremist!
soldier192 1 year ago
anyone want some WAHABI with their sushi?
yumlemonjuice 1 year ago
very good propoganda....chopped and changed OBVIOUSLY and BIASED in its EDITING...the aim of this program is to falsely educate the ignoramus of this world with false sheezy like this!!!!
any bafoon can see that this has been microsoft worskshopped...plzzz?
can they try anything else apart from stupid cheap shots like this daaaaaaaaaamn!
kingrapid 1 year ago
"A true Muslim should not associate with infidels" How nice to hear! As long as there can be nothing but true Muslims, I hope to see you leave . I am an infidel, so are most of the people in the countries you are exploiting. Do as the Koran tells you, leave!
gulis4u 1 year ago 2
god i hate islam death to all britain needs to bcome one and destroy muslims and mosques!
GWR4079 1 year ago 5
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worthyisthelamb247 1 year ago
But Muslims can lie according to their own fucked up book. Throw these people uot of our civilized world.
pigment777 1 year ago
i have been to many mosques in america my whole life and not single one preached this, i swear
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia : do you really think they do preach this oppenly?
scu000 1 year ago 3
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isnt the mosque privately? i have been to youth groups in all my mosques and sunday school, and they do not say it, also christian pastors have said stuff in church that are WAY worse than this, but of course their is only a controversy, but when i muslim does it, its terrorism
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia : if you really think that muslims do not call for terror then you are wrong since it was mohammed who first taught muslims what islam really is all about. and all muslims are called to obey allah and his messenger .
it was mohammed who said : Bukhari (52:220) - 'I have been made victorious with terror'
when it comes to pastors - if they preach hate then they are not teaching the right thing! so let us debate about what religion teaches us
scu000 1 year ago
@scu000
i have gone to american mosques all my life, i have been to many of them, so i know wat is taught there a lot more than u, lol believe me pastors teach hate all the time, they say to hate muslims, all the time, look up pastor ron pasley, i know a christian girl who tells me that a lot of pastors do that, so its wrong when a christian pastor does it, but when muslims do it, its just muslims being muslims? get a grip and think
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
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worthyisthelamb247 1 year ago
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u again? i have been to MANY mosques my whole life (in California) and not a SINGLE person spoke hatred, in fact my shieks talked about love, one even said to love jews and christians and that they were going to heaven, another, many have tried to make me christian they have failed so will u, dont judge me for my belief if u dont want others to judge u
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia You do what you want to do. We see on youtube and other websites allot of the same hatred Islam has for any non-muslim especially Jews yet you say you never heard it. You say, you have been to many mosque's over and over, we get it. Can you comprehend, some mosque do preach hatred? Where in the Quran does it say to love the Jews and Christians? Everything's not about you. I didn't judge you. You portray islam as wonderful. Look around, it's terrible and will get much worse.
worthyisthelamb247 1 year ago
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worthyisthelamb247 1 year ago
@scu000
only terrorists do, u better not say muslims are terrorists, or im a slap u! haha
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia : don't you know that Allah's "Apostle" said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'...?
scu000 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia ,muslims are terrorist...come and slap me...LOL
muhammadsucksmycock1 1 year ago
@muhammadsucksmycock1 get a life you weirdo
immortalass 1 month ago
@CaligirlSofia ... you are wrong here. We critize all wicked priest. But only muslims say we are islamophopic. There is NO "christianophobic" ... Get the point.
pigment777 1 year ago
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worthyisthelamb247 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia @CaligirlSofia I know through a friend with roots in Canada and Jordan, he has a split Christian and muslim family and he is caught in the middle . He can't stand to go to mosque's in Florida because, they preach hate. Jesus teaches, Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; _____Not all preachers are Godly, Duh! __Find one that is.
worthyisthelamb247 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia becos islam is teaching of pedophile terrorist muhammad!
muhammadsucksmycock1 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia more Taquiyya,..i swear,..LOL !!
1pingfasily 1 year ago
@1pingfasily
ur such an idiot, 1st of all Taquiyya is lying about what faith u r, like pretending not to be muslim, and 2nd of all only shias pratice Taquiyya and all other muslims dont, im not shia so stfu and stop acting dumb
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia Your an IDIOT !,..for name calling on an open forum ,just like a muslim,. always resort to name calling.You are also in denial ,..muslims lie to suit themselves for any reason.Thats why it's called the religion of HYPOCRITES.Finally you are also lacking in "common courtesy" for not replying to my PM a month ago!! :)
1pingfasily 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia well...now they have!
muhammadsucksmycock1 1 year ago
This is wahabi saudi teachings, not actual Islam!
amnajalal 1 year ago
i love sheikh faiz and the other sheikh lectures, mashallah, may Allah preserve them ameen.
these people are taking everything out of context
Ummeabdullah1908 2 years ago
you all guys are so stupid... we are not taking anything out of context - we always give you the context lest you do not accuse us of being like you!
Merauder2000 2 years ago
I would laugh about how out of context this programme is..but seriously, its not funny and its doing more damage than good.
I heard a white British policeman in England saying that thieves should have their hands cut off..but then they'd live off other tax payers money. In Saudi, they don't have that..if you can't work, you will not be able to work properly, earn money & will live with the shame forever. I like Saudi, thats why I moved here from my very British heritage!
Milajasm 2 years ago
Kill homosexuals is out of context- how the fuck can it be out of context? See it in part one.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 2 years ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler its not out of context we believe that if one is caught in a homosexual act then the punishment is death!
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif Thanks for putting it in plain sight. Now here's a question- why is is homosexuality deserving of death?
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler because Allah says in the Quran that it is an example of that being Soddom and Gamora also its a serious problem if everyone was gay the human race would be over
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif Ah, but now you need to convince me the Quran is the word of god. Can you make a valid justification without the Quran?
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler i believe i already did with whole end of creation thing also in order to present you with the Quran i need to know what u believe
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif Uh, end of creation? What's that got to do with homosexuals? As for what I am, I'm an atheist.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler really i mean if you were falling from a sky-scrapper u wouldn't call out for anyone
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif I don't know, I've never faced death like that- maybe I would, maybe I wouldn't- either way it doesn't prove god exist. How many Carthaginians called to pagan gods as Romans murdered them? See, the argument doesn't just prove nothing, it also works for any imaginable person someone might call to in distress.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler at first its not if god does exist its if u really believe completely he doesn't
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif I'm sorry, what exactly are you trying to say?
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@jalilsaif Oh, I don't believe in him, because there's no evidence for his existence. That's the very same logic behind not believing in Santa, so I do think I have reason to be godless.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler so u believe we came about how
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif abiogenisis, evolution, big bang. These idea may not be complete, they may be some areas they don't explain, but they are deduced from evidence- Allah and all other gods are not proven, they are not half as solid.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler i obviously lol would disagree, i believe all these theories lack a true beginning with everything not just our existence but the atoms or products to bring about our beginning. so i say when i see foot prints its a sign that something caused it and so i can deduce that just as everything on earth comes from a creator then the universe came from something which came from something and so on for ever so i say where was the start
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif Oh, not knowing the beginning= god did it? But why god? How can you prove it's a god or gods, or anything for that matter? To put it simply, god doesn't fill the gaps any more than the Olympians.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler Olympians were the answer for not understanding god but still were god. Also i would say theories will never substantiate true belief as theories are subject to change it could be tomorrow that the big bang will be tossed out. but the quran will still be relevant. a so called intellectual couldn't deny it.
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif Those theories change because they are based on real world evidence- and if evidence shows them to be wrong they are no longer trusted. It's not a sign of weakness, it's a sign of intellectual honesty and a lust for the truth. The Quran will still be relevant? Maybe, but in what way? Is the Quran still relevant when it tells husbands to beat their wives? You wouldn't like to be picking and choosing what you respect and what you don't based on secular criteria- would you?
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler ?Quran is and will always be relevant and this verse is probably the most common used to go against the quran it is permissible for a man to do so after admonishing the woman and keeping her in the home ,after that a man can hit but not bruise or hit any sensitive areas also if she would act more outrageous then its not to be done and our prophet never hit any of his wives and he was the best example to man kind
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif And I guess these are the fair wages of betrayal and sin against her spouse? But wait!- if you think it's fair for a husband to beat his wife as discipline, why can't a woman beat her husband? The logic should cut both ways. Seems like the quran has a problem...
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler since when has a women ever been the enforcer in a home even and atheist should be able to see we are not created the same
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif I know some woman who could do it, but lets just go with what you say. If a woman can't beat her husband for an offense, isn't is at least fair for her to get another man to do it for her? It would be unjust if the only person capable of being punished in a relationship is a woman.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler also i would say that these things are without reason when has any theory explained creation somehow a chaotic explosion brings about perfect function. Allah says in the Quran that he separated the heaven and earth which left about dust which created the planets and he says that the universe is ever expanding now i in no way say that science proves Allah but the opposite that Allah proves science never as is book been proven wrong 1400 years and still proving sciences
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif And I would say the theories are fairly strong. As I said, The blind watchmakers, a Richard Dawkins documentary does a good job of explaining the creation of life from chance.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
Respond to this video... so what the answer is natural selection and organized chaos or randomness
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif At the quantum level things do seem to act randomly, so we grudgingly admit at least the appearance of randomness and chance in the universe.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler ok well i mean if you dont believe in a creator i cant convince you of anything religiously so i believe as of now the randomness is all you have but Allah says in the Quran that until one acknowledges him there would be no guidance
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif If you can prove allah only in a religious fashion(faith) then you have cast yourself in the same illogical as belief in faeries or in other false gods. Hopefully you see the danger in faith being the only way to god, and how it is so untrustworthy.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
@Ebuverthebicepcurler i mean 4 u Allah is evident to me by everything around me and i combined that with reading the Quran and finding no fault in it i follow it and theres no fault if your right but if i am then your in bad shape but at the same time i acknowledge that there are many different views on god, and in the end your conclusions and mine will differ and we will live accordingly
jalilsaif 1 year ago
@jalilsaif Evidence for allah is everywhere- okay- prove how that works out. How exactly does all the stuff around you prove allah is real? Sounds more emotional than logical.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
that guy said you can see evil in their face (the disbeliever), yet you can see in his face he is full of anger. What good is it to live in anger and die to enter paradise with other angry people.
Spiritualseeker86 2 years ago
Selectif cut and paste what a bised program.
IbnSalihalKurdi 2 years ago
why do they speak English, they don't know language of Allah ??? Look's like fake
saintuser 2 years ago
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lol, come on!
BjarkeJesp 2 years ago
no, really =)
saintuser 2 years ago
emigrate then ,,good riddance
wiganjoe 2 years ago
i have seen all 4 videos, they are all here. u only aloud to have 10 mins for the videos on Youtube, so it is in all for parts and i seen them all here. they r number'd
misspinklady48146 2 years ago
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this made me laugh, it is absolutely ridiculus!!!!!!! Seriously they have cut tiny bits of those preachers speeches and put it back together as they choose. Anyone could do that to any religion. Take things out of context, take examples they have given and make it sound as they want. These people are just speading hate for the muslim people. Its very sad really. Wouldnt it be nice if all people of all religions could just respect each other for their beliefs.
unistudent988 2 years ago
@unistudent988 open your eyes and mind, stop being blinkered a nd brainwashed
wiganjoe 2 years ago 4
@unistudent988 What part of chopping off hands all around the world is taken out of context?
kingofqwerty 2 years ago 3
Are you fucking kidding me? please.. for the love of God - Allah - please JUSTIFY WHAT THEY SAY! PLEASE Put in in CONTEXT! Hate is hate. And this is making me hate. Didn't used to hate. But now my hate is squared yours. DO NOT MESS with strong women! You can keep YOUR women down. But women in the U.S. will have you by the balls before you even try this BS!
TomboysTv 2 years ago
@TomboysTv please the US women are the weakest of all. they are used like whores and down their women and as for hate you can hate it won't change anything ever.
jalilsaif 1 year ago
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stupid cut and paste islamophobic propaganda of out of context 10 second clips , i defy they would interview any of those speakers fairly
haqseeker 2 years ago
islam is a violenc religion ,,,
nisse341 2 years ago 9
Amazing how crazy they are,totally obsessed and simply not any more human.
Vedantka 2 years ago 6
@Vedantka: They? All religious fundamentalists?
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc No, just Islamic fundamentalists as at its roots Islam inspires to so much evil.
Vedantka 1 year ago
@Vedantka: you havent heard of the Crusades then. The Inquisition, the 'missionary work' in South America, Africa. The ongoing scandals of sex abuse, assault and murder claims against the Catholic Church. Hindus and Muslims have had a long history of massacring each other. Need I go on? Religion at its core is evil. Look at it from a historical and rational POV. It has done nothing to enhance the human experience
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc Of course I know about the Crusades and Christian missionary and inquisition BUT one evil does not excuse the other.As to Hinduism you get it very wrong as India was invaded by Muslims and India is the only country that Islam did not manage to convert completely or in great majority.Hindus had no choice but to defend themselves,now they also have huge problem with Christian crazy missionaries.But Hinduism at its core is very peaceful/tolerant and NON proselytizing.
Vedantka 1 year ago
@Vedantka So the answer to 'problems with Christian crazy missionaries' is to kill some of them? Very little good has, in reality, come from religion
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@paddyleblancNo.The proper answer to this very bad situation would be official(done by Indian government)banning of all organized christian missionary activities or islamic proselytizing.Individual change of religion is a private thing but manipulating people(especially uneducated poor ones) by organized efforts into these religions is not acceptable.But of course,it will not happen,at least not now as Indian government is actually very anti Hindu.
Vedantka 1 year ago
@Vedantka If Hinduism is 'at is core very peaceful/tolerant' why would the government have to step in to stop murder in the name of the religion?
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc If the Hindus get violent,they do not do it in the name of religion but as reaction to violent or aggressive acts done by Muslims or new born Indian Christians.There are so many Hindu sects(all rooting from Sanatana Dharma) so many Hindu Gods,so many interpretations of Vedas but they never got violent to each other,tolerance was the foundation of them.But once faced by Islam or fanatic Christian missionaries,tolerance does NOT work but becomes suicidal.
Vedantka 1 year ago
@Vedantka You are clearly deluded. But then most religious belief does that to people. If you say that 'Hindus get violent...as reaction to [violence]' then by definition you are taking about violent Hindus. If this is a nationalistic question then why say Hindus at all. We are talking about religion. As for tolerance being the foundation of all Hindu sects.... ahem... the caste system and all that entails? Subjugation of women? Wake up! Youre living in la-la land.
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc You have to study the history of India.Before Islam & Christianity they never had religious wars,only social/political & ALWAYS temples were respected.The caste system is everywhere in the world just by different name or no name.When you are a cleaning person,you will never be allowed to the circle of professors,etc.The original caste system(as described in scriptures) was a perfect social system based on individual talents(not birth!),later it got perverted as everything nowadays
Vedantka 1 year ago
@Vedantka The cleaning person analogy: if Im that person I have the opportunity to study and become a professor. There maybe many obstacles, mainly socio-economic but religion will not be one of them. The original caste system as described in scriptures was perfect? So was the garden of eden in the Christian bible. Neither are much in evidence today are they? So what perverted it then? I also notice you failed to touch on subjugation of women
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc The Vedic scriptures did not give a woman independence per say,however they strongly emphasized that a woman should be protected and well cared of by a man,otherwise there would be no success and happiness in the family.You have to differ between the scriptures and some modern incorrect interpretations.The correct interpretation of Koran eg is to fight and kill literally in the cause of Allah,so Islam is soaked in blood of innocent people.No other religion has such a doctrine.
Vedantka 1 year ago
@Vedantka Nonsense. The Christian bible is filled with situations when it is acceptable to kill. Read the old testament. I have to differ betweens the scriptures and some modern interpretation? Again; nonsense. Communism in theory is a fantastic ideology but in practise not so hot, why? Soiled with human mud. Religion is the same. To say that in theory that a religion is pure and tolerant but to see evil & intolerance being exercised is its name on a daily basis is delusional.
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc I think there is no way to bridge the believer in God with atheist.I do believe in God very deeply and I was searching for the best explanation,which I've found in Vedas.It is pure spiritual science that has nothing to do with material world.But that's O.K. if others are not interested.The problem is that even if we both talk in English actually our ontology on this particular subject is so different that we can never come to any understanding.
Vedantka 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc Non-violence to someone who threatens you or your family/country etc is actually worse than violence as it is a natural human instinct and duty to protect your own life or your freedom.According to Sanatana Dharma you are allowed to kill in self defense and that is absolutely correct.Mahatma Gandhi was not following this principal and it caused life to almost million of people during the 1947 partition.
Vedantka 1 year ago
@Vedantka Ahh, you see you tried to correct your own error here. As far as Im concerned organised religion is simply another tool of the elite to subjugate the masses. That is not to say that I dont see the value in spirituality, indeed the world needs more contemplation and less mindless obedience to dogmatic ritual which leads to defence. Always; this is the human condition: when people group together to share an indentity they will kill for it, be in nationalism, political ideology or
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@Vedantka Ahh, you see you tried to correct your own error here. As far as Im concerned organised religion is simply another tool of the elite to subjugate the masses. That is not to say that I dont see the value in spirituality, indeed the world needs more contemplation and less mindless obedience to dogmatic ritual which leads to defence. Always; this is the human condition: when people group together to share an indentity they will kill for it, be in nationalism, political ideology or
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc In India religion was always local around some enlightened guru or saint,it was never like Islam or Christianity.Every local temple even now has a bit different approach and if they do not agree they try to win by spiritual dialogue to prove whose point is right.All questions and answers are allowed.Nobody kills for different point of view.
Vedantka 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc The most important Vedic contribution to spirituality is meditation and quest for the knowledge of the self.Yoga and meditation are from Vedas,even if Western world adopted them into something different from the origin they still have the power to bring peace and calmness.
Vedantka 1 year ago
@Vedantka I agree. Take the best of what you can and lose the rest.
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@Vedantka cont'd: religious belief. Any amount of analysis of scripture, old or new, cannot take from the FACT that religion has led to, and will always ultimately lead to, human conflict.
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@Vedantka cont'd: religious belief. Any amount of analysis of scripture, old or new, cannot take from the FACT that religion has led to, and will always ultimately lead to, human conflict.
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@Vedantka cont'd: religious belief. Any amount of analysis of scripture, old or new, cannot take from the FACT that religion has led to, and will always ultimately lead to, human conflict.
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@Vedantka cont'd: religious belief. Any amount of analysis of scripture, old or new, cannot take from the FACT that religion has led to, and will always ultimately lead to, human conflict.
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc Human nature will always lead us to conflict anyway; even if all people were atheists we would surely find something to make conflict .
Vedantka 1 year ago
@Vedantka so let us limit the motivations.
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@Vedantka cont'd: so you can quote me all the ancient scripture you want but it doesnt take from the fact that the vast majority of Hindu women, for example those in rural India, have been treated as second class citizens. Furthermore the caste system ensures that entire groups of people are treated the same. The murder of people, be they missionaries or not, in the name of religion is an act of evil. Full stop.
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc Modern Western societies do not provide any amazing solution.Yes,women have rights but they also have so much responsibilities & most women end up doing double job as the work at home is a huge job.Children also suffer as they are not brought up by mothers but by institutions.We are not happy culture in spite of all the progress.So evil exists among atheists,too.There are scientific studies that show that those who love God are simply more peaceful inside.The key word here is LOVE.
Vedantka 1 year ago
@Vedantka First apolgies for the double entries there, tech glitch. I never suggested that western society had or has any solution. In fact I believe quite the opposite. The system creates a false happiness for a few and a yearning for more in the masses. Evil will always exist in the world. My point is that I see little evidence of religion balancing the scales with good. I am not an athiest by the way, my spiritual experiences have been a personal voyage. I am dubious of teachers cont'd
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@Vedantka of any text as they are open to such varied interpretation that almost anything can be justified in the name of God. Ergo I dont align myself to any particular belief system. As B. Russell said "I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong" to expand upon this I would never kill for my beliefs for the same reason.
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
@paddyleblanc My point is that Vedic scriptures teach love for God and it is almost impossible to find anything about love in Old Testament or Quran.So it is not good to put all religions to the same group.There were NEVER wars done in the name of Vedic God/Gods but there were many wars in the name of Jesus or Allah.There was inquisition in the name of Jesus and missionary killings in the same name.Many customs in India are social customs not religious.
Vedantka 1 year ago
@Vedantka social customes not religious: therein lies a huge problem. Religions teach followers about societal norms and customs. The purpose of religion is to become fused into all aspects of life. Hence you will see, as I have in my country, the close ties of church and state which give religious leaders huge amounts of power. Power does to the 'holy' as is does to most people ... corrupts
paddyleblanc 1 year ago
how do i get those dvds??
cunygrad 2 years ago
there is a full film on video.google - please do se on my channelźs description - there is a link to video.google it is all in english so...
scu000 2 years ago
Why is the audio so fast and why is more than half of it missing? There used to be the entire documentation here on youtube
Gameinggames 2 years ago
please check the link on my channel
scu000 2 years ago
kill all fucking muslim
777kristofolaf 2 years ago
MI5 are hopefully watching you too! Nutcase
TonyTheTruthman 2 years ago
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its not all muslims. its a small minority. all faiths have extremists and only weak listen to rubbish like this
crispalicious 2 years ago
dream on Dhimmi!!!!!!!!
hasenpfeffer99 2 years ago
Now u and i know thats bullshit...Islam is evil.....
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago 4
There is something fishy going on here. No where am i able to find the second half of this film. Not on youtube, not on video.google, no where.
ragnarlava 3 years ago
this is supposed to be the second part - but look on my channel's description: there is a link to google.video with the full movie about "undercover mosque"
scu000 3 years ago
so where are the other parts of this film?
EarthspawnUK 3 years ago