Great video, thanks! I have just got a set of Roland triggers (which are great but probably not as good as your RET set) and I'm going to get the Alesis trigger i0 to hook them up to my laptop. Do you know if its possible to use the triple trigger system of the Roland CH12R/C with the alesis i0?
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if you triger your acoustic drumset and use the alesis trigger i/o and some sort of software on your computer can you use some sort of amp or something to get the sound?
Whats up? Really liked the vid, but some question do remain: The DFH Toms sound a little...like crap. Is it right that when running the DFH (or any other ezx) in superior drummer, you have the possibility to change the sound via EQ or something?
ezdrummer and superior drummer allow you to have multitrack outputs for the kits into a daw like logic or protools and you can add whatever effects to each piece of the kit (or mic to be specific) you want....ie. eq, reverb etc. it also has an extensive mixer with tons of mic options so you can make the kit sound more roomy or dry. extensive tweakability imho.
Hahaha... yes, that's true. You can add the presets that they have in the software, or you can create your own sound with the EQ, Gate, Compression, Filters, and busses and sub mixes to come up with something cool.
Using the RET drums with Virtual Percussion software is really the way to go.
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Great video, I saw the RET's at NAMM and loved them. What is the best way to amplify the sound for playing live with the Trigger IO and Toontracks? Is it just off the computer 1/8th jack?
what kind of triggers do you use for theg cymbals?!
i want to trigger an acoustic drum kit with alesis I/O and Ez Drummer But im missing the cymbals and hihats triggers and im getting nut i dont know what to do xD
i dont get it, if your going to go as far as getting REAL drum heads for the electric kit, why dont you just buy a darn acoustic kit. Looking at the walls behind you, it looks like some work has been done to help kill the loudness....
With this kit I can practice and record at all hours. I could not do that with my acoustic kit. Also, with BFD2.0 I get better drum mixes than I ever got with my middle-of-the-road mics and untreated room. My clients always go away very pleased with their mixes and I am finally able to practice again. But maybe you're right.
No, you're right, when it comes to home recording studios triggering is the way to go, unles you want that home-recorded kinda sound for your drums, which is not bad at all if you do it right, but it's not for all genres, just look up pomplamoose, they record they drums at home, and everything else, and it sounds really good.
Two things: First, you feel like playing a real kit without pissing off your neighbours or hurting other people's ears.
Second, you get a near perfect redording (that's adjustable at all times) by just sticking a midi cable in your recording gear. Normally you would have to place eight or more expensive mics in the right positions, maybe through a compressor, and set all you're knobs to get a decent sound. So it saves a lot of time and trouble.
Also, with proper software you've got more options.
Beautiful..At first I thought this was actually a real kit. It does show that you get what you pay for! It seems like the rim triggers work great too...no crosstalk. And real metal cymbals..A+. Did you have to make alot of adjustments in the software to get all the thresholds right? I hate e-snares becuase of either too much or too less triggering during rolls. People are also complaining about using dual zone pads with the Alesis I/O...any suggestions on this (adjustments, best software, etc!)
I play RET and have many videos on my channel. I can honestly say that the RET snares both 10" and 13" triggers beautifully with all the standard VPT drum software (BFD2, Superior Drummer 2.0, EZdrummer, Addictive Drums).
I keep my gain fairly low, my velocity curve on LG1, and find myself using Superior Drummer 2.0 and Addictive Drums all the time!
Would you say it is my interface? Or could it be something else in my setup?
Right now I record using the TD-10 just to listen to, then on playback retriggering the samples. Just looking to play with the samples as I record, they are so much nicer.
I have a question for you if you have a second. I am considering the Alesis IO, I already have triggers and a sample library. When I try playing my samples with my current setup, there is just enough lag to make it feel a little to weird to play using the samples on the PC. My PC is pretty damn fast, perhaps it's my audio interface (Tascam US428) I am using the Roland TD-10, and my samples are playing out of Reason 2.5.
but the comparison between the regular and mesh head is way off, because the ret-drums have a foam layer muffling the drumheads, so when you strike the drum with the meshhead it is actually mostly that foamlayer sounding (thudding) so loud.
you'd have to compare a freely vibrating meshhead (or roland/hart meshpad) with the ret-pads.
My intent was to demonstrate what mesh heads sound like ON RET DRUMS. If you play rolands or whatever your results will differ. Thanks for the comments.
Thanks for making and sharing this! Right now, I'm shopping for a kit/trigger unit to go with BFD2. How's the dynamics on the Alesis with the RET pads? I've read it's not so good with some Roland pads...
Oh, let me just clarify that. With Roland pads, there's been complains about there's very little between soft triggers and hard ones; like the velocity values suddenly jumping from low numbers to close to 127 as you hit the pad harder.
I can say that the RET Percussion kits work the best for triggering software. I've played on them all, and I'm MUCH more satisfied with RET's actual drum quality. VERY well built.
How much did those RETs run you? I have a trigger io, a bunch of ddrum triggers, and im drooling over SD2.0. Any advice you guys might have about how to proceed on a budget would be cool.
If you've already got the IO, and you'd LOVE SD2.0, I would look online for a Fusion Pro. Those are the typical setup. Also, I've got a Stealth kit from RET, and it's a little smaller in size and price ;-)
This is really cool! But R.E.T drums are just way to expensive for me. Alesis is releasing next month it's USB Pro Drum Pro Kit Which is only about 699 with the controller including. If I had the money I would definatly go for this though!
oh and another thing. i think the snare in this video sounds great put almost sounds like the velocity is always like u hitting it really hard, but u not hitting it hard. Maybe try getting it more balanced to how u really playing.
I would like to request an example of just the variety of snare triggering you're getting on your triggers and the Alesis Trigger IO. One thing with the Trigger IO I've been unable to accomplish is 100% triggering of extremely fast snare rolls. However, it's using a DIY trigger using a mesh head which would be more flappy than a taught Mylar head. Slow playing has never been an issue with the Trigger IO, just seriously fast rolls. Prove me wrong, brother! ;)
i think the difference is that RET is specifically designed and customized for trigger i/o and software, so probably is ya mesh heads giving the problems....
So prove it to me. :) Give me your tightest snare rolls through a variety of velocities. I've yet to find a Trigger IO user that can provide audio of successful snare triggering on extremely fast tight rolls. Mostly due to lack of talent more than anything. Which quite frankly is my problem. Hence me annoying you. :)
I use the Trigger IO, and I'm VERY satisfied with how it plays. BFD2 and Superior Drummer 2 both give great velocity response. I can roll from piano to forte no problemo :-)
MikeyVPT: I use the Trigger IO, and I'm VERY satisfied with how it plays. BFD2 and Superior Drummer 2 both give great velocity response. I can roll from piano to forte no problemo.
Yeah. I was gonna point you to Mikey's videos. But he already chimed in here. His rolls are very articulate and dynamic. So the issue does NOT lie with the Trigger iO and it's capabilities.
The IO does a great job. Thanks for mentioning my videos!
I will say that because I'm a light player, I sometimes set my velocity curves and gain to where I don't have to smack very hard to get the higher velocities. I like how personal the Trigger IO lets me be.
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I'm thinking about preparing a new video to demonstrate this kit with BFD2.0 and to show you all some of the extra drums and cymbals that I have built for my kit. Please comment on points you would like me to cover and I'll try to address them all.
Hi dez...i think it would be cool to see how the snare will sound with RET, such as the different articulations BFD 2 picks up(rim,side,positional sensoring)
because most of the time i find the snares in electronic drumming give it away koz they sound fake.
different playing feels would be cool not jst the same funk sound, maybe funk and chilled and rock or something....
Hey can you use this with Roland drum Module? Also Im trying to add more trigger pads to my Roland set can you double with using all module imputs and adding even more pads with the Alesis IO?
Finally someone smart enough to the in room volume of a e-drum. Thanks I've been looking for a video like this. I'm looking to get the alesis usb pro, and I'm assuming it would sound very similar.
Yeah, I'm glad someone shows that these kits aren't Nearly as loud as people think they would be.
I actually played on the Alesis kits... they definitely leave something to be desired. It's one of those "you get what you pay for" deals. Dezz went with the RET kit for a reason ;-)
So far it looks like the best bang for my buck is going to be an Alesis USB pro with a top-of-the-line 3rd party snare, like a Hart. The expandable TriggeriO means you're not stuck with what comes in the box. Just over a grand ($700+350) street price for a kit with no rubber anywhere, and is full-size where it really counts. And when you reassign the Alesis snare you basically get one dual-zone frame tom and an extra floor tom for free.
i really need to know if you only use the alesis...do you have a midimapper besides this module??? coz im having a hard time getting sound out of it...ive used DKFH2 and BFDlite...any idea what i might be doing wrong`????
Yeah, My ride missed a couple bell notes. Good eye! This happens when the ride is plugged into a dual zone input. I grabbed a splitter ($4) and plugged each zone to it's own input and it triggers perfectly now! Yes, the hardware is included.
@d1git- The velocities are decent with the IO but they are wicked with the TD-10 I borrowed off a friend.
help me!i got the alesis io trigger and a ddrum sensor for the kick drum.i would like to know:if i connect those two in a normal drum kit (not e drums)do i need something else like a drum module?please help me out
depends on what you got on the back end. If you got like him a computer and a software like drum kit from hell or bfd you get a real sounding drum. Otherwise it's sounds like any other any midi drum.
Think about it - if you are looking to spend the money on the R.E.T trigger drums - that have no sounds MIDI or otherwise within them, they are A LOT LESS expensive than a 12 or a 20! MOST people that HAVE a project studio ARE already going to have a decent computer for the studio anyway. You make absolutely no point.
I tried to help Elnisom figure out his kick drum thing. Dunno if you read his comment below you're somewhat a tad out of context. Btw The R.E.T Kits comes with MIDI(the alesis is a MIDI controller) and the Fxpension BFD so if you already got that real sounding drums when you buy it (minus the computer and a host vst software but that a detail...) you could also hook a drum module instead of a computer, like a roland v-drum or mc-808 (not sure about the 808). But the would a be a bit of a waste.
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awesome video man... best part was the end with the backin track cus it was exactly what you would find with a advertising video by some company.... not a bad thing just makes you look very professional =]
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Killer sounds Dez. Because of your video I'm ordering a RET Kit this week. Not sure If I should go with the Black or Cherry finish though.
These drums sound incredible (DFH, that is). I just hope my computer is up for the VST samples. I'm running a PowerMac Dual 1 ghz, with SX3, MOTU 2408.
Any recommendations on fine tuning the computer for close to zero latency?
Awesome info much appreciated. I can't afford the RET kit just yet, but the Toontrack software is amazing. It is still cheaper to buy this setup for home studios than to invest in high end microphones and sound dampening for the drums.
No lag by the I/O. Make sure you have an appropriate audio interface and drivers. If anything, that's where you'll get latency. My system reads 2ms which is not noticable at all.
The only thing I don't like about the i/O are the velocity curve presets. I can't get as good a response as I can using my td-10 as a trig-MIDI converter. But the price difference is huge! Is it worth an extra $1000 to have better response? To some, yes.
A trigger is essentially a very cheap microphone that is only good enough to use to sense changes in volume. One trigger gets mapped to one MIDI note. If the trigger is directly mounted on a flexible surface (like a drum or a practice pad), it will sense the hitting of the surface.
WRONG in so many ways! Good triggers are NOT essentially cheap microphones - nor are they expensive microphones. Good triggers are sensative to whatever they are designed for. They can be proximity (just be near enough to it, and adjustable), velocity, movement (scrape/slide/glide), after-pressure (after-touch), pressure-during - you really just don't know what you are talking about at all.
In general a drum pad can of course have sensors for electromagnetic and static compression/torsion signals, but traditionally a drum trigger is a nonlinear low bandwidth dynamic acoustic transducer (microphone).
MIDI latency is quite negligable in almost all cases (to a computer). ASIO? Maybe, but WMD is MUCH better if you are using an XP or Vista PC. ASIO works best on a Win2000 machine. A Mac? Ya, ASIO is the best way to go with OSX.
I agree too but i guess the quality gap will disappear very soon and i am sure it is a good bargain to invest now in an electronic drum and evolve with the software developpers progress.
agree with TonyEmnamel too ... soooo easy to record and set the levels up ;-).
I would add a special enthusiasm for interactive video loops syncs with the triggers... exciting for a live performance !
So, today is a good day, i agree with everybody ;-)
also upgrading will be a pain. if you just play silently, just buy some new cymbals and if you have a gig, take the cymbal mufflers and replace the heads and boom your ready, with RET thats not possible, if you want silent practice, go with acoustic drums with mufflers. if you want electronic drums with electronic sounds, go with hart, about the same feel with a fraction of the cost
then forget the module, mesh heads still simulate a sound and tone of the drum shells, you still get a snappy snare sound if your snares are on with the mesh head, and you get a nice cymbal crash if you hit the edge of a crash.
RET are way too much money, just buy an acoustic kit, a electric brain , mesh heads and some triggers and you can makje your own electric/acoustic drum kit for under 1000 while ret costs about 3000
If you were to buy a decent sized acoustic kit, mesh heads, good triggers, and a nice module (td-6 for $550, td-20 for $1895), you'd STILL need e-cymbals, plus the time you'd need to put it all together!
And there's NO WAY I'd go with a module. They're over-priced. My BFD software was a FRACTION of the price for MUCH better quality. RET made it all happen. I'd check your facts bofore commenting next time, mister ;-)
I thought about that, too. But, Smartriggers are so radical compared to Rolands. It's like Roland going with software! They just can't make that jump forward... it would leave their loyal customers (who pay WAY too much) behind. They're stuck, in other words.
Thank you for posting this information. I have a Yamaha DTXtreme... similar pads as yours... and will be trying the Alesis I/O with a Laptop to see if I can renew the sounds :-)
Similar pads as an RET kit?! The Yamaha uses rubber pads, though... I'm not sure how "similar" those are to the acoustic shells of the RET ;-) Also, I noticed you're from Ponce? My father was born near San Jaun! Si, soy Puertorriqueno. Es bueno que encuentro otros con interes en "virtual percussion"! Mucho gusto, amigo!
I think I'm overanylizing things here, but I've got to say this:
The RET Percussion drums are Completely different than anything out there (Roland, Yamaha, Hart). I would hate for anyone to be confused. RET uses actual drum shells, hand stained, custom built. Dezz can attest that they aren't like anything else. You won't find anything like the Virtual Percussion Technology pack out there. Alright, rant complete!
Very Nice Kit, Kinda makes me wish I would have waited to buy my kit, Last year I bought a Hart Dynamics Studio Master kit with a Roland TD-8 Module, I like it, but now after I see this R.E.T kit I am having buyers remorse. maybe I can update in a year or two. I would like to know how your studio is coming along. I really want to build a studio and could use some info on that. Thanks.
Also, I had talked to a guy by the name of Sam Hurd (hurd300403). He just bought a Jazz-e and has the Alesis Trigger IO and DFH (just up your alley!). I was going to let him know that if he had any questions, I'd be more than happy to help him out, but I have very limited knowledge over DFH. Would it be cool to let him into your world of expertise?
Thanks for the comment, bro! I have the same FD-8. I notice that sometimes I can't get the mid-range hihats. It just gives me an electro-rattle when my foot is in the mid-range.
I was thinking about going with the Fusion Pro-EX, also, but I was a poor college kid when I got the Stealth.
@M4rtijn: DFHS needs a host to run. I use Cubase SX3. You may consider BFD which will run standalone.
@XXL66: For live play it should work great as long as you don't have computer issues. You may consider the Muse Receptor to host your VSTi instead of a lappy. More stable.
Latency is not an issue. I run a dual core 1.6ghz with 2gb ram. I use an Edirol FA-101 audio interface and the Alesis IO module. The RET kit was about $3500 and I added a 4th tom that I made myself. (not seen in the vid)
The video is great I must say. Last couple of days I have been doing some research about Toontrack's Drumkit From Hell Superior.
I am the proud owner of a Roland TD-6kx, which I want to use to trigger DFHS on my computer.
I want to use the Superior Drummer interface as a stand-alone application making use of the DFHS Sample database. Is this possible without using a host-sequencer were I plug-in in the VSTi's that come with DFHS?
I'm glad you all are finding the video useful. Renozeros, The cymbals are Smartrigger Cymbals. You can google them and check thier website. Jerrware, You're correct in that the kits and samples are a part of the software. The IO is configured just to make your triggers respond properly (ie sensitivity, midi note, etc.)
I'm trying to understand the PC-Module-Triggers setup here. My experience with eDrums is using Roland module/pad setup. So you configure your software for the Kit you want? Does the Alesis module need to be configured? I didn't see a lot of specifics at the Alesis or drum software sites. Thanks, again.
Well, I guess I saw it coming, but I just got an email asking when the "Dezz n' Mikey" video is coming out! Hiarious! But, seriously... have you already started production?!
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canvoodoo 10 months ago
Great video, thanks! I have just got a set of Roland triggers (which are great but probably not as good as your RET set) and I'm going to get the Alesis trigger i0 to hook them up to my laptop. Do you know if its possible to use the triple trigger system of the Roland CH12R/C with the alesis i0?
joelaureate 1 year ago
Thank you for Easing my Mind.
MrL0vableM0nster 1 year ago
If you have dual trigger snare and toms, is it possible to use position sensing on them using the Alesis Trigger I/O?
poxcr 1 year ago
great demo!
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JSLaxBoys 1 year ago
Can you use alesis trigger io for a mono drum kit?
TheslowM 1 year ago
Great vid Tony! 10x. All the best!
drumdigger 2 years ago
what cymbals are these? surge?
GrinderDeath 2 years ago
smart cymbal...i believe ..they came out before surge...they are the original
guitarpikz 2 years ago
Ok so now i cant choose :p go for a Roland TD 9KX
or for something like that ??
kimonas12 2 years ago
i want this to i have a td-6 roland electric drumkit what would be good to do for my drumkit??
Jramsoebhag 2 years ago
I would probably start upgrading the drums first. Start with either a 10" or 13" RET Percussion snare with a custom color. That would be awesome!
-mikey
MikeyVPT 2 years ago
if you triger your acoustic drumset and use the alesis trigger i/o and some sort of software on your computer can you use some sort of amp or something to get the sound?
mecrop12 2 years ago
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sixstringsensei 2 years ago
Whats up? Really liked the vid, but some question do remain: The DFH Toms sound a little...like crap. Is it right that when running the DFH (or any other ezx) in superior drummer, you have the possibility to change the sound via EQ or something?
DarkFottloch 2 years ago
you can use ANY vst plugin you have, or any built in feature of your software.
BlackHawk2029 2 years ago
ezdrummer and superior drummer allow you to have multitrack outputs for the kits into a daw like logic or protools and you can add whatever effects to each piece of the kit (or mic to be specific) you want....ie. eq, reverb etc. it also has an extensive mixer with tons of mic options so you can make the kit sound more roomy or dry. extensive tweakability imho.
jgator87 2 years ago
Hahaha... yes, that's true. You can add the presets that they have in the software, or you can create your own sound with the EQ, Gate, Compression, Filters, and busses and sub mixes to come up with something cool.
Using the RET drums with Virtual Percussion software is really the way to go.
-mikey
MikeyVPT 2 years ago
Anyone know where you could buy the rubber rim silencers?
cast390 2 years ago
hardware/auto store
look for any rubber tube, run a knife down the centre and you have your silencers. should cost less than $10 to cover 4 hoops...
quinster11 2 years ago 2
so this is Mikeyvpt predecessor. lol
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trampybattyboy 2 years ago
Thank you for the vid. The I/O trigger is just what i was looking for.
HaxorLee 3 years ago
i can second this. exactly what i need for my set up!!
cscarp4503 2 years ago
How much are these drums?
RockinTony57 3 years ago
The kit he has is $3595.00
cast390 3 years ago
Great video, I saw the RET's at NAMM and loved them. What is the best way to amplify the sound for playing live with the Trigger IO and Toontracks? Is it just off the computer 1/8th jack?
drumslinger50 3 years ago
what kind of triggers do you use for theg cymbals?!
i want to trigger an acoustic drum kit with alesis I/O and Ez Drummer But im missing the cymbals and hihats triggers and im getting nut i dont know what to do xD
Edshunter 3 years ago
I use smarttrigger cymbals. You could buy a set of those and put your acoustic cymbals away. Also, Alesis has their new Surge cymbals.
TonyEnamel 3 years ago
This is GREAT!
For more great innovation check RHYTHMTANDEM.
rhythmtandemplayer 3 years ago
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edwardsforest 3 years ago
i dont get it, if your going to go as far as getting REAL drum heads for the electric kit, why dont you just buy a darn acoustic kit. Looking at the walls behind you, it looks like some work has been done to help kill the loudness....
edwardsforest 3 years ago
With this kit I can practice and record at all hours. I could not do that with my acoustic kit. Also, with BFD2.0 I get better drum mixes than I ever got with my middle-of-the-road mics and untreated room. My clients always go away very pleased with their mixes and I am finally able to practice again. But maybe you're right.
TonyEnamel 3 years ago 4
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No, you're right, when it comes to home recording studios triggering is the way to go, unles you want that home-recorded kinda sound for your drums, which is not bad at all if you do it right, but it's not for all genres, just look up pomplamoose, they record they drums at home, and everything else, and it sounds really good.
himl994 10 months ago
Two things: First, you feel like playing a real kit without pissing off your neighbours or hurting other people's ears.
Second, you get a near perfect redording (that's adjustable at all times) by just sticking a midi cable in your recording gear. Normally you would have to place eight or more expensive mics in the right positions, maybe through a compressor, and set all you're knobs to get a decent sound. So it saves a lot of time and trouble.
Also, with proper software you've got more options.
roeljaja 3 years ago
u jst need trigger i/o and a good asio sound card....or even Asio4all....with a good standard sound card.
RTorrente 3 years ago
Beautiful..At first I thought this was actually a real kit. It does show that you get what you pay for! It seems like the rim triggers work great too...no crosstalk. And real metal cymbals..A+. Did you have to make alot of adjustments in the software to get all the thresholds right? I hate e-snares becuase of either too much or too less triggering during rolls. People are also complaining about using dual zone pads with the Alesis I/O...any suggestions on this (adjustments, best software, etc!)
AtomicProjects 3 years ago
Great comment!
I play RET and have many videos on my channel. I can honestly say that the RET snares both 10" and 13" triggers beautifully with all the standard VPT drum software (BFD2, Superior Drummer 2.0, EZdrummer, Addictive Drums).
I keep my gain fairly low, my velocity curve on LG1, and find myself using Superior Drummer 2.0 and Addictive Drums all the time!
-mikey
MikeyVPT 3 years ago
Hey thanks for posting! One question.. How much for the kit,io and software?
seedaddyfly 3 years ago
BFD 2 is $399 CAD (that's what I'm using now) An Alesis IO is $180 and my RET kit was about $3500 or so. (I don't remember exactly)
TonyEnamel 3 years ago
Would you say it is my interface? Or could it be something else in my setup?
Right now I record using the TD-10 just to listen to, then on playback retriggering the samples. Just looking to play with the samples as I record, they are so much nicer.
Thanks for the video!
toobhedd 3 years ago
Try getting ASIO4ALL, google it. Most soundcards create a lagg, ASIO4ALL helped me.
Pultron 3 years ago
I have a question for you if you have a second. I am considering the Alesis IO, I already have triggers and a sample library. When I try playing my samples with my current setup, there is just enough lag to make it feel a little to weird to play using the samples on the PC. My PC is pretty damn fast, perhaps it's my audio interface (Tascam US428) I am using the Roland TD-10, and my samples are playing out of Reason 2.5.
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toobhedd 3 years ago
Great Review. Answered all the questions I had about this setup. Would this set up work with XLN Audio's Addictive Drums. Thanks
ruffusmusic 3 years ago
nice vid,
but the comparison between the regular and mesh head is way off, because the ret-drums have a foam layer muffling the drumheads, so when you strike the drum with the meshhead it is actually mostly that foamlayer sounding (thudding) so loud.
you'd have to compare a freely vibrating meshhead (or roland/hart meshpad) with the ret-pads.
ifinddivollscheisse 3 years ago
My intent was to demonstrate what mesh heads sound like ON RET DRUMS. If you play rolands or whatever your results will differ. Thanks for the comments.
TonyEnamel 3 years ago
please answer me summtin.. do i hav to buy a firebox 2 play with the trigger i/o? or i just need the trigger i/o?
imabitch4u 3 years ago
Thanks for making and sharing this! Right now, I'm shopping for a kit/trigger unit to go with BFD2. How's the dynamics on the Alesis with the RET pads? I've read it's not so good with some Roland pads...
Krutman 3 years ago
Oh, let me just clarify that. With Roland pads, there's been complains about there's very little between soft triggers and hard ones; like the velocity values suddenly jumping from low numbers to close to 127 as you hit the pad harder.
Krutman 3 years ago
Krutman,
I can say that the RET Percussion kits work the best for triggering software. I've played on them all, and I'm MUCH more satisfied with RET's actual drum quality. VERY well built.
Check out my videos for additional info!
-mikey
MikeyVPT 3 years ago
How much did those RETs run you? I have a trigger io, a bunch of ddrum triggers, and im drooling over SD2.0. Any advice you guys might have about how to proceed on a budget would be cool.
thanks!
Mundos 3 years ago
I'm thinking of upgrading my RET kit right now.
If you've already got the IO, and you'd LOVE SD2.0, I would look online for a Fusion Pro. Those are the typical setup. Also, I've got a Stealth kit from RET, and it's a little smaller in size and price ;-)
Check my page for additional info!
-mikey
MikeyVPT 3 years ago
Great sound and playing.
TomiBonTomi 3 years ago 2
This is really cool! But R.E.T drums are just way to expensive for me. Alesis is releasing next month it's USB Pro Drum Pro Kit Which is only about 699 with the controller including. If I had the money I would definatly go for this though!
pistolpete198069 3 years ago
I've tried the USB Drums, just think of it this way... you get what you pay for :-\
RET all the way.
-mikey
MikeyVPT 3 years ago
for the BFD 2 video i mean
RTorrente 3 years ago
oh and another thing. i think the snare in this video sounds great put almost sounds like the velocity is always like u hitting it really hard, but u not hitting it hard. Maybe try getting it more balanced to how u really playing.
shot man
RTorrente 3 years ago
I would like to request an example of just the variety of snare triggering you're getting on your triggers and the Alesis Trigger IO. One thing with the Trigger IO I've been unable to accomplish is 100% triggering of extremely fast snare rolls. However, it's using a DIY trigger using a mesh head which would be more flappy than a taught Mylar head. Slow playing has never been an issue with the Trigger IO, just seriously fast rolls. Prove me wrong, brother! ;)
gastr1c 3 years ago
i think the difference is that RET is specifically designed and customized for trigger i/o and software, so probably is ya mesh heads giving the problems....
RTorrente 3 years ago
So prove it to me. :) Give me your tightest snare rolls through a variety of velocities. I've yet to find a Trigger IO user that can provide audio of successful snare triggering on extremely fast tight rolls. Mostly due to lack of talent more than anything. Which quite frankly is my problem. Hence me annoying you. :)
gastr1c 3 years ago
I use the Trigger IO, and I'm VERY satisfied with how it plays. BFD2 and Superior Drummer 2 both give great velocity response. I can roll from piano to forte no problemo :-)
-mikey
MikeyVPT 3 years ago
MikeyVPT: I use the Trigger IO, and I'm VERY satisfied with how it plays. BFD2 and Superior Drummer 2 both give great velocity response. I can roll from piano to forte no problemo.
Yeah. I was gonna point you to Mikey's videos. But he already chimed in here. His rolls are very articulate and dynamic. So the issue does NOT lie with the Trigger iO and it's capabilities.
MeTuLHeD 3 years ago
Thanks MeTuLHeD!
The IO does a great job. Thanks for mentioning my videos!
I will say that because I'm a light player, I sometimes set my velocity curves and gain to where I don't have to smack very hard to get the higher velocities. I like how personal the Trigger IO lets me be.
-mikey
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kvbr 3 years ago
Hey all,
I'm thinking about preparing a new video to demonstrate this kit with BFD2.0 and to show you all some of the extra drums and cymbals that I have built for my kit. Please comment on points you would like me to cover and I'll try to address them all.
TonyEnamel 3 years ago
Hi dez...i think it would be cool to see how the snare will sound with RET, such as the different articulations BFD 2 picks up(rim,side,positional sensoring)
because most of the time i find the snares in electronic drumming give it away koz they sound fake.
different playing feels would be cool not jst the same funk sound, maybe funk and chilled and rock or something....
cool rigs...peace out cant wait
RTorrente 3 years ago
Hey can you use this with Roland drum Module? Also Im trying to add more trigger pads to my Roland set can you double with using all module imputs and adding even more pads with the Alesis IO?
johnhasagun 3 years ago
hey Dezz,
Please please make video with BFD 2....or superior 2.0 ...i love the way u did this one, so insightful inlike other electronic videos
RTorrente 3 years ago
great video answered all my questions about the alesis i/o, the sound of the heads and cymbals--amazing good luck with the studio!
heyo123456789 3 years ago
Excellent. I'm selling my V-Drums. They just don't cut it as far as feel go.
The RET drums must feel great. Tell me more!
VirtuaDrummer 3 years ago
Thanks to this demo, I am going IO with the new Traps E500 as they are a great price in the UK.
Cheers bro!!
maccafan10 3 years ago
Man! You are great! That is very helpful information! Well done!
sotirissugahgalore 3 years ago
HI what makes there RET drums better than an ddrum or any othe mesh head drum ? THX
bowrooco 3 years ago
The RET drums feel like acoustic drums, which is much better than mesh anyday!
Also, using modern drum software sounds MUCH better than anything else.
Does that help?
-mikey
MikeyVPT 3 years ago
dude, you rock, thanks for the info
two thumbs up!
Fuentealba 3 years ago
Finally someone smart enough to the in room volume of a e-drum. Thanks I've been looking for a video like this. I'm looking to get the alesis usb pro, and I'm assuming it would sound very similar.
rab1dmunky 3 years ago
Yeah, I'm glad someone shows that these kits aren't Nearly as loud as people think they would be.
I actually played on the Alesis kits... they definitely leave something to be desired. It's one of those "you get what you pay for" deals. Dezz went with the RET kit for a reason ;-)
MikeyVPT 3 years ago
I'm glad to hear that, because I'll often read mixed reviews on the alesis kits. But for the price I haven't found anything better.
rab1dmunky 3 years ago
So far it looks like the best bang for my buck is going to be an Alesis USB pro with a top-of-the-line 3rd party snare, like a Hart. The expandable TriggeriO means you're not stuck with what comes in the box. Just over a grand ($700+350) street price for a kit with no rubber anywhere, and is full-size where it really counts. And when you reassign the Alesis snare you basically get one dual-zone frame tom and an extra floor tom for free.
ernunnos 3 years ago
I WOULD RECORD WITH YOU.
onlythefirstwill 3 years ago
hi!
i really need to know if you only use the alesis...do you have a midimapper besides this module??? coz im having a hard time getting sound out of it...ive used DKFH2 and BFDlite...any idea what i might be doing wrong`????
Trentaur 3 years ago
Thank you Tony for Posting this video! Its a lot of help for me when looking for an alternative to my Yamaha DTX electronic kit.
I think, after this, you SHOULD be sponsored by RET percussion....
nengstro 3 years ago
One thing you didn't demonstrate in the video is dynamic range on the drums themselves. How sensitive are the drums to velocities?
d1git 3 years ago
I've done some videos showing sensitivity with the RET drums... feel free to check them out!
Just click my name, and it'll take you to my videos!
-mikey
MikeyVPT 3 years ago
it seemed the ride wasnt triggering properly around 5:35. And i presume the rack/cymbal attachments/mounts come with it? or no?
otherwise, it sounds freakin excellent
urnamehere999 3 years ago
Yeah, My ride missed a couple bell notes. Good eye! This happens when the ride is plugged into a dual zone input. I grabbed a splitter ($4) and plugged each zone to it's own input and it triggers perfectly now! Yes, the hardware is included.
@d1git- The velocities are decent with the IO but they are wicked with the TD-10 I borrowed off a friend.
TonyEnamel 3 years ago
interesting, i just wish i could afford something like this.
urnamehere999 3 years ago
The RET website has a list of dealers. I bought mine directly from RET.
TonyEnamel 4 years ago
What dealers sell RET Percussion
puresoulg 4 years ago
What dealers sell RET Percussion
puresoulg 4 years ago
help me!i got the alesis io trigger and a ddrum sensor for the kick drum.i would like to know:if i connect those two in a normal drum kit (not e drums)do i need something else like a drum module?please help me out
EleniSom 4 years ago
depends on what you got on the back end. If you got like him a computer and a software like drum kit from hell or bfd you get a real sounding drum. Otherwise it's sounds like any other any midi drum.
BleuNight 4 years ago
Yep. But, that is the WHOLE point, isn't it.
flatbouy 4 years ago
Think about it - if you are looking to spend the money on the R.E.T trigger drums - that have no sounds MIDI or otherwise within them, they are A LOT LESS expensive than a 12 or a 20! MOST people that HAVE a project studio ARE already going to have a decent computer for the studio anyway. You make absolutely no point.
flatbouy 4 years ago
I tried to help Elnisom figure out his kick drum thing. Dunno if you read his comment below you're somewhat a tad out of context. Btw The R.E.T Kits comes with MIDI(the alesis is a MIDI controller) and the Fxpension BFD so if you already got that real sounding drums when you buy it (minus the computer and a host vst software but that a detail...) you could also hook a drum module instead of a computer, like a roland v-drum or mc-808 (not sure about the 808). But the would a be a bit of a waste.
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The big problem right now is waiting for YouTube to figure out that their commenting system does not align properly to the replies matching the other comments . And that problem is getting really old, really fast. I cannot tell who is commenting to who, and we are all seeing diferent things in the relationship between replies to and replies from comments.
flatbouy 4 years ago
awesome video man... best part was the end with the backin track cus it was exactly what you would find with a advertising video by some company.... not a bad thing just makes you look very professional =]
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elliebg78 4 years ago
Killer sounds Dez. Because of your video I'm ordering a RET Kit this week. Not sure If I should go with the Black or Cherry finish though.
These drums sound incredible (DFH, that is). I just hope my computer is up for the VST samples. I'm running a PowerMac Dual 1 ghz, with SX3, MOTU 2408.
Any recommendations on fine tuning the computer for close to zero latency?
zigman6 4 years ago
VST samples? VST aren't samples.
flatbouy 4 years ago
actually it is. check out ez drum
BleuNight 4 years ago
A VST sampler can be set up with pre-recorded samples using that VST sampler, but there is no such thing as "VST SAMPLES" just waiting for you.
flatbouy 4 years ago
This is great.
Well done.
Kitschead 4 years ago
Thanx a lot for the info m8t. Really appreciated !!
sowhatt68 4 years ago
Thank you for the information man! because of this video i bought my own trigger I/O immediatley very helpful! thanks!
liiliiliiliil 4 years ago
Excellent video. Thanks for posting, it's really useful. The kit sounds suprisingly realistic too..
jpruk0 4 years ago 2
Maybe, but the sound is NOT from the drums, the sound is from the BFD.
flatbouy 4 years ago
Awesome info much appreciated. I can't afford the RET kit just yet, but the Toontrack software is amazing. It is still cheaper to buy this setup for home studios than to invest in high end microphones and sound dampening for the drums.
arstudioman 4 years ago
nice i want one!!!
madmuso 4 years ago
So, you already have the Alesis and a BFD?
flatbouy 4 years ago
wow, thats really amazing.
i think thats one of the most reallistic edrums sound
lucasathus 4 years ago
ehhmm kehh
jonilsterz 4 years ago
very impressive wud lurv a kit like dat man
mancsakacarl 4 years ago
im looking to buy the alesis io, and i was wondering how is real time drumming? is there any noticable latency/lag? thx
PragmaticEncephalon 4 years ago
No lag by the I/O. Make sure you have an appropriate audio interface and drivers. If anything, that's where you'll get latency. My system reads 2ms which is not noticable at all.
The only thing I don't like about the i/O are the velocity curve presets. I can't get as good a response as I can using my td-10 as a trig-MIDI converter. But the price difference is huge! Is it worth an extra $1000 to have better response? To some, yes.
TonyEnamel 4 years ago
thx man its on the way. cant wait to hook it up to my diy kit. been working on it day and night this winter break. Enjoyed the vid. classy. thx
PragmaticEncephalon 4 years ago
sorry im an absolute noob on electronic kits but can you explain what triggers do and are they applicable to use on accoustic kits
tens1son 4 years ago
A trigger is essentially a very cheap microphone that is only good enough to use to sense changes in volume. One trigger gets mapped to one MIDI note. If the trigger is directly mounted on a flexible surface (like a drum or a practice pad), it will sense the hitting of the surface.
LarryRiedel 4 years ago
WRONG in so many ways! Good triggers are NOT essentially cheap microphones - nor are they expensive microphones. Good triggers are sensative to whatever they are designed for. They can be proximity (just be near enough to it, and adjustable), velocity, movement (scrape/slide/glide), after-pressure (after-touch), pressure-during - you really just don't know what you are talking about at all.
flatbouy 4 years ago
In general a drum pad can of course have sensors for electromagnetic and static compression/torsion signals, but traditionally a drum trigger is a nonlinear low bandwidth dynamic acoustic transducer (microphone).
LarryRiedel 4 years ago
2ms is awesome!!! on my computer i only get 13ms...
madmuso 4 years ago
wait ur talking about midi. NM then
madmuso 4 years ago
MIDI latency is quite negligable in almost all cases (to a computer). ASIO? Maybe, but WMD is MUCH better if you are using an XP or Vista PC. ASIO works best on a Win2000 machine. A Mac? Ya, ASIO is the best way to go with OSX.
flatbouy 4 years ago
When you say no lag by the I/O, do you mean the latency is better because of that?
dirtymint 4 years ago
No. The IO doesn't have anything to do with it. It's the ASIO drivers (and hence, your interface) that influence latancy the most.
TonyEnamel 4 years ago
thank you for the information!
mindphlux 4 years ago
My opinion is still the same - you cannot beat the good old acoustic sound :) Some cool stuff here though.
Winkodrummer 4 years ago
I agree 100%. But when you cannot get away with acoustic volume levels, This is the solution. Also, super easy to record and edit!
TonyEnamel 4 years ago
That is also a big plus for the electrics :)
Winkodrummer 4 years ago
I agree too but i guess the quality gap will disappear very soon and i am sure it is a good bargain to invest now in an electronic drum and evolve with the software developpers progress.
agree with TonyEmnamel too ... soooo easy to record and set the levels up ;-).
I would add a special enthusiasm for interactive video loops syncs with the triggers... exciting for a live performance !
So, today is a good day, i agree with everybody ;-)
kalisteboat 4 years ago
also upgrading will be a pain. if you just play silently, just buy some new cymbals and if you have a gig, take the cymbal mufflers and replace the heads and boom your ready, with RET thats not possible, if you want silent practice, go with acoustic drums with mufflers. if you want electronic drums with electronic sounds, go with hart, about the same feel with a fraction of the cost
SalvationEternity777 4 years ago
then forget the module, mesh heads still simulate a sound and tone of the drum shells, you still get a snappy snare sound if your snares are on with the mesh head, and you get a nice cymbal crash if you hit the edge of a crash.
SalvationEternity777 4 years ago
BFD pwns! gonna get BFD2 upgrade. came out today!
spuddeer60606 4 years ago
Very nice post friend! This is helping me towards triggers on an accoutsic kit using Drum Kit From Hell for a metal projhect I am doing. GREAT POST!
liberty610 4 years ago
This is great stuff. Nice post!
timonsteri 4 years ago
FANTASTIC
xtremeg71 4 years ago
RET are way too much money, just buy an acoustic kit, a electric brain , mesh heads and some triggers and you can makje your own electric/acoustic drum kit for under 1000 while ret costs about 3000
SalvationEternity777 4 years ago
Think about it this way SalvationEternity777:
If you were to buy a decent sized acoustic kit, mesh heads, good triggers, and a nice module (td-6 for $550, td-20 for $1895), you'd STILL need e-cymbals, plus the time you'd need to put it all together!
And there's NO WAY I'd go with a module. They're over-priced. My BFD software was a FRACTION of the price for MUCH better quality. RET made it all happen. I'd check your facts bofore commenting next time, mister ;-)
MikeyVPT 4 years ago
does the software take up much space on your computer?
ddrumsman549 4 years ago
I've got 2 gigs of ram, and BFD runs very smoothly with an ASIO4ALL audio driver (free from the internet!)
MikeyVPT 4 years ago
Since you ask, yes, on your computer, you won't have enough room.
flatbouy 4 years ago
SalvationEternity777:
Try buying a decent sized acoustic kit, good module (td-6 for $550 or td-20 for $1895), triggers, nice set of mesh heads, PLUS e-cymbals!
You CANNOT get that for UNDER $1000! Not gonna happen.
I love the fact the RET puts it all into one package for you.
And I would NEVER go with a module again. My BFD software is SO much better for a FRACTION of the price.
Maybe you should check your facts BEFORE making a comment, mister ;-)
MikeyVPT 4 years ago
I will buy the new TD-9 when available mainly to plug it to a computer with BFD or DFH because i am not fond of the TD-8-12-20 emulated sounds.
Do you think it is too expensive to invest in this TD-9 ?
I mean, do you think the Scope function and the wav recorder worth paying the price difference ?
Thanks for your answer
kalisteboat 4 years ago
parli troppo...
simo1917 4 years ago
Appreciate the video post. Great info and review of the set. Thanks.
utubeworms 4 years ago
I predict that in a short time, no electronic drum set will be sold with any other cymbals then those new real style cymbals.
utubeworms 4 years ago
What I don't understand is why didn't Roland think of making cymbals like those already????
utubeworms 4 years ago
I thought about that, too. But, Smartriggers are so radical compared to Rolands. It's like Roland going with software! They just can't make that jump forward... it would leave their loyal customers (who pay WAY too much) behind. They're stuck, in other words.
MikeyVPT 4 years ago
Thank you for posting this information. I have a Yamaha DTXtreme... similar pads as yours... and will be trying the Alesis I/O with a Laptop to see if I can renew the sounds :-)
CafeAlMediodia 4 years ago
Similar pads as an RET kit?! The Yamaha uses rubber pads, though... I'm not sure how "similar" those are to the acoustic shells of the RET ;-) Also, I noticed you're from Ponce? My father was born near San Jaun! Si, soy Puertorriqueno. Es bueno que encuentro otros con interes en "virtual percussion"! Mucho gusto, amigo!
MikeyVPT 4 years ago
I think I'm overanylizing things here, but I've got to say this:
The RET Percussion drums are Completely different than anything out there (Roland, Yamaha, Hart). I would hate for anyone to be confused. RET uses actual drum shells, hand stained, custom built. Dezz can attest that they aren't like anything else. You won't find anything like the Virtual Percussion Technology pack out there. Alright, rant complete!
MikeyVPT 4 years ago
HI Mikey, My pads are made out of wood with Remo heads. They look just like the RET kit.
Remember ... there was a DTXTreme 1 before the current rubberish DTXtreme II :-)
CafeAlMediodia 4 years ago
Very Nice Kit, Kinda makes me wish I would have waited to buy my kit, Last year I bought a Hart Dynamics Studio Master kit with a Roland TD-8 Module, I like it, but now after I see this R.E.T kit I am having buyers remorse. maybe I can update in a year or two. I would like to know how your studio is coming along. I really want to build a studio and could use some info on that. Thanks.
langfamily2 4 years ago
Also, I had talked to a guy by the name of Sam Hurd (hurd300403). He just bought a Jazz-e and has the Alesis Trigger IO and DFH (just up your alley!). I was going to let him know that if he had any questions, I'd be more than happy to help him out, but I have very limited knowledge over DFH. Would it be cool to let him into your world of expertise?
MikeyVPT 4 years ago
Thanks for the comment, bro! I have the same FD-8. I notice that sometimes I can't get the mid-range hihats. It just gives me an electro-rattle when my foot is in the mid-range.
I was thinking about going with the Fusion Pro-EX, also, but I was a poor college kid when I got the Stealth.
Hey, have you ever been to Winter NAMM?
MikeyVPT 4 years ago
@M4rtijn: DFHS needs a host to run. I use Cubase SX3. You may consider BFD which will run standalone.
@XXL66: For live play it should work great as long as you don't have computer issues. You may consider the Muse Receptor to host your VSTi instead of a lappy. More stable.
Latency is not an issue. I run a dual core 1.6ghz with 2gb ram. I use an Edirol FA-101 audio interface and the Alesis IO module. The RET kit was about $3500 and I added a 4th tom that I made myself. (not seen in the vid)
TonyEnamel 4 years ago
Wow, this is amazing. This is the best e-drum sound I have ever heard. You can't tell at all.
PrestoBitch 4 years ago
how much was this kit? and what brain are u using if u mind?
sk8ertom411 4 years ago
Yo nice video... how's the latency on this system? what is your cpu system specs?
hongliangisrude 4 years ago
Hi, great video, very usefull ! I was wondering, would you recommend this setup for small live gig performances (laptop) ? Are the RET racks good ?
thx !
XXL66 4 years ago
great video man... really learned a lot
devildrummer666 4 years ago
nice :)
Closurefin 4 years ago
The video is great I must say. Last couple of days I have been doing some research about Toontrack's Drumkit From Hell Superior.
I am the proud owner of a Roland TD-6kx, which I want to use to trigger DFHS on my computer.
I want to use the Superior Drummer interface as a stand-alone application making use of the DFHS Sample database. Is this possible without using a host-sequencer were I plug-in in the VSTi's that come with DFHS?
m4rtijn 4 years ago
Hey guys,
I'm glad you all are finding the video useful. Renozeros, The cymbals are Smartrigger Cymbals. You can google them and check thier website. Jerrware, You're correct in that the kits and samples are a part of the software. The IO is configured just to make your triggers respond properly (ie sensitivity, midi note, etc.)
TonyEnamel 4 years ago
I'm trying to understand the PC-Module-Triggers setup here. My experience with eDrums is using Roland module/pad setup. So you configure your software for the Kit you want? Does the Alesis module need to be configured? I didn't see a lot of specifics at the Alesis or drum software sites. Thanks, again.
jerrware 4 years ago
we haven't heard a single time how the open hi-hat sounds...
nndsmc 4 years ago
nice video dude
TonyBtheEG 4 years ago
Interesting setup...
How did you manage to trigger the cymbals, what
kind of trigger do you use for that?
I tried to research but i couldn't figure it out.
renozeros 4 years ago
Well, I guess I saw it coming, but I just got an email asking when the "Dezz n' Mikey" video is coming out! Hiarious! But, seriously... have you already started production?!
MikeyVPT 4 years ago
If only everyone made demonstrations this good. Well done! more demonstrations of your gear wanted
goretrade 4 years ago