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  • hell, now i regret not owning a ps2, but still wont get one

  • @MasterLL So which do you prefer, the DDS games, or Nocturn?

  • hey, i started playing the persona series and i'm really enjoying, but i would like to know what kind of link (direct or indirect) or chronological order does the shin megami tensei series have. i tried googleing it but didn't find anything helpful...

  • @SatoriHaddad Megami Tensei 1 and 2 (First a novel and then turned into a game) back in the early 90's (Super Nintendo Era) happened. Then, a bunch of spin-off series all 'different' universes existed as a result of both games. Think of 'Shin Megami Tensei' as a Multi-verse that coexists with each other. Shin Megami Tensei 1, 2 (first two never came to america), 3 (Nocturne), and 4 (Strange Journey) are part of the first sequel. Persona is an 'alternate universe' of that series. Very confusing

  • @SatoriHaddad theres no link in beween shin megami, only the demons and... emmm jack frost? XP. anyway, the persona series are completly differentt from digital devil, shin megami, devil survivor, devil sumoner (i only play those) or jack brothers (LOL). enjoy every saga separately (btw, persona series are the easier shin megami saga EASIER, maybe u get upset if u dont like dificult games)

  • 1:10 this intro is such a big fat liar

  • Never played this but I can tell it's typical SMT brilliance/originality by the odd fact that the opening shows the characters mainly being attacked. Only Atlus have RPGs that really break the mould like this.

  • @BlueDemonofFire What did FF13 steal from this? A group a people being branded for a horrible fate and they fight to change their destiny? Here's a surprise, Atlus didn't invent that, it's been in countless RPG's and fantasy books, Lord of the Rings anyone? I realize Atlus is the cool cat on the street now and it's popular to toss mud on Square-ENIX so doesn't matter what I say.

  • did anyone notice the nocturne sound effect in the select screen? badass

  • im looking for the other persona game's my self the first one i got was persona 4 and it rock's to bad tho i just found this game on a nother site and wile i was watching this and a gameplay i forgot to buy it and now its gone from the site oh well just have to look for it again.

  • this... looks...EPIC

  • love Shin Megami Tensei stuff. START MAKING PS3 GAMES!!!

  • im sure my SMTDDS opening was different........something is confusing.

  • I just noticed something....final fantasy XIII copied this..or should I say its similar.

  • @jcudal32 That's part of why I couldn't get into FF13. Well, that and the fact that our heroes in FF were frequently annoying, and I didn't like the battle scheme.

    Bit of advice, Square-whatever-you're-calling­-yourselves-now. If you're going to borrow ideas from other companies, at least pull it off well.

  • @BlueDemonofFire I'd say they actually nicked more from persona 3 than DDS in the characters-relationship-depart­ment. Either way I dislike 13 with a rather large passion.

  • @jcudal32 you can bet your saves for that.... they did it.... in so many levels....

  • @JKordero sqauresoft and Enix are great companies, squareenix.... hmm I dont know about that. You can always count on the guys at ATLUS when it comes to making mature RPG games. infact I think they've cured the empty feeling squaresoft left us when half the members disbanded. I think you can agree with me when I say SquareEnix FF games are all about looks and no substance. final fantasy's history is like the history of the starwars games.

  • @jcudal32 couldn´t agree more, i used to love squaresoft and enix back in the snes and psx times, but when they got together, it all became bullshit -.-

  • @jcudal32 or should you say FF13 is a rip off, and doesnt do justice to final fantasy overall

  • ...the 1 of 2 smt games i havent played...

  • Easily digital devil saga and nocturne were the best. I dont like the persona stuff to much

  • @yaoilovertash Serph only talks in Digital Devil Saga 2.Not when he was an embryon

  • actually that wasn't Serph but the human on whom Sera based him on you learn a lot about the origins of the members of the embryon around the time when Heat dies.

  • @deadkingdom SPOILERS. STOP IT. FUUUUUUUUUUUU-

  • @Corehoofify Don't worry, this spoiler is kinda an optional one. Depending on your choices you can stop it. And it won't be obvious like "Save or Don't save" either. So watch your choices! And about the "origins" of the characters, you get more of a spoiler alert just by watching the intro scene of the second game. So no worries!

  • Probably one of the best games ever made of ps2, with shadow hearts, persona and

    hack series

  • I love the beginning:

    Rend, slaughter, devour your enemies; There is no other way to survive. You can not escape your hunger, warriors of purgatory !!

  • Does Selph not talk at all?

  • Ugh... the American intro...

    Every other version I've seen has a different visual and audio to this one (which I much prefer to the Amirican for many reasons) so why change it?

  • @serph195 Why not change it? Variety is the spice of life. ♪

  • Yeah, except the Japanese version is horrible. The Engrish with the lame lyrics, please. This is 10x better than the Japanese opening.

  • This has mismatched audio/video, the tone of music doesn't match the game and much footage MADE FOR THE INTRO was removed. The NTSC version of the game is therefore lacking content.

  • "Lacking content" my ass. The original intro song is horrible.  It's trash. Changing out a subpar content for something better isn't what I'd call editing, or taking away content.

    If anything the song enhanced and fit with the intro better than that shitty Engrish crap. The Japanese were once good at making games, but nowadays not so much. DDS is an excellent game in spite of the shitty state of Japanese game development and the crappy intro.

  • Uh, most bad games are American, not Japanese. And what engrish?

  • Most bad games 10 years ago were. The tables have turned and it's the Japanese that've been developing the same uninspired crap. I cannot name one Japanese game I've bought in the last several months, going over a year. They're horrible. Developers like Bioware, Bethesda, Obsidian, Valve have been kicking the ass of comparable Japanese developers.

    And the whole song Pray is Engrish. It makes almost no sense, it's just good sound words one after another. They don't mean anything coherent.

  • Seeing as you don't seem to be able appreciate the fact that I have OPINIONS, I'm just going to ignore you now.

  • Hey genius, Etro anime is from NEW YORK. Your either trolling really badly or are actually that stupid. Bethesda fucking sucks btw, Oblivion was horrible, and most Obsidian fans hate bethesda so yeah. Fallout 1 and 2>everything bethesda made. I bet you haven't even played a single real wrpg in the last decade.

  • Yay!The cell-shading graphics are just amazing!

  • Does it have the option of the voices being in japanese? yes or no?

    I don't care cause i loved Persona 4 and already ordered a copy of DDS1 & 2. Having the original voices in kind of a plus for me.

    So anyone who has the game, have you checked the options for character voice-over?

  • I have the game but I don't remember if that option was abailable...

    What I can say is that the game is great and you won't regret buying it!!

  • that's nit the smae cat from Devil summoner is it?

  • I bought this game with 2 others for 10 quid all together

    awesome deal for this game :D

    just tore myself away from it an hour ago <3

  • Amazing Artsy Graphics Love it

  • YAY!

  • oh im stuck at the part were you kill te big monster ar mirabels territorie,what lvl should i be to kill it?im lvl 10 right now,got it about 30 mins ago

  • hey whats the name of this song?i need to know it cause im trying to add it to my i pod

  • Danger by Etro Anime I think

  • Thats right! Great song, nice album.

  • Just ordered this game this morning...it comes monday, can't wait

  • Just drove 2 hrs. to get mine....best buy i've ever made,I absolutely love this game!

  • Me too^^ yay!

  • what's the name of the song

  • Danger

  • I'm highly considering buying this game. I'm kind of torn though between getting this or Nocturn though. They both sound good

  • Don't get DDS without DDS2. They're essentially two halves of one game. They're both fairly short (30ish hours?). Nocturne is about 50 hours long, longer depending on which ending you want. I just finished Nocturne and absolutely LOVED it.

    Best thing to do is get all 3 :)

  • Thanks XD yeah, I'm looking into getting both games. hopefully I can get them at the same time.

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  • I already ordered it too ^w^ I got the Deluxe Box Set so I'm waiting for it to arrive XD so excited

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  • what console is this on?

  • PS2

  • can you also get it on xbox?

  • my favorite 2 charecters Heat and Gale they rule this whole game

  • ...Pal version has Sera (or somebody else) singing as titel intro title thingie... I think I'll go look on youtube if I can find it (to fave) or else I'll just record it myself :o.

  • No these are two different games made by the this game company n they asked wat the difference of a persona of another game and this game they. Srry for the confusion

  • Buy both

  • Whats the diffrens between this and Persona????? Im thinking of buy this one looks cool but Persona seems cool too so i cant deside

  • good luck finding this it's almost impossible to find this

  • I came in my mail to day=D

  • my friend lent me his copy :D

  • Um in this one you kind of play as the persona instead of summoning it, Like nocturne.

    But you only get three people on the field but you control all of them. Unlike p3.

    Digital devil saga is about 40 to 50$ while number two is about 10 to 15$

    Just...DDS2 is kinda rarer....Also Nocturne if you havent played it, Is realy awesome and definately worth checking into.

    Hope that...Um...Helps...?

  • persona you summon them, depends on which version of persona you have 3 or 4. in this game you transform. but in persona you have multiple personas to your choosing. the games have a huge difference to eachother. the only thing the same is the enemies are some of the personas in persona 3 and 4. but dds is harder than persona

  • when in the first 3 (persona 1 and the two persona 2's[ i dont count them as one because the storyline is different ]) games of persona everyone had personae so its more like every one with the exception of you in persona 3+4 is handicap xD

  • well i have persona 3 and 4 and i watched all of the masterLL's videos of DDR, but the difference is that persona, you can't transform instead, it's like your buddy thats with you. the main character of persona has multiple personas you can have except their friends because the main character is special. persona also is just dungeons and pathways. ddr is like exploring everywhere while persona is just dungeons as i said and also high school since in persona, no one in public knows about them.

  • I got this game for $34 used with no manual inside either. But I realize it's harder than Persona. I'm stuck one part too.

  • What is this song called? I'm really diggin' it, and it sounds like it goes on longer than it does.

  • Its Danger by Etro Anime. It is longer

  • @Skylarkell yes

  • I say Yay for gameplay videos. :3

  • Great timing. I was thinking of getting this game.

  • You're making a Digital Devil Saga walkthrough? Cool.

  • Hey MasterLL have you thought of playing MegaTen Imagine Online?

  • I did play it for a while but I stopped.

  • @MasterLL Curious but why?

  • @MasterLL lol i tried it and it was terrible enuff said o_O

  • @pluubooruu i play that! its so fun ^^

  • Good luck LL but after watching all of your vids like Persona and Star Ocean 4 you won't need it.

  • Wow, this brings back memories.

    I remember watching TechTV years ago and this was on Cinematech. I thought "Damn, what an awesome looking RPG!" It was my first Megaten game, and it's still one of my favorites. Great characters, music, and design. Just make sure to sell your Cells when the Solar Noise is full so you can get the most macca. :)

  • Cells? Is that an item?

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  • sell them to make cash.

    the closer to full moon the more cash you get.

    always sell them at full moon and the more you sell the more stuff you can bye in the shops

  • Yeah, it's an item you get. They're only useful for selling to get money, but they tend to be worth a lot.

  • @Sepherest it brings back memories of how i came in my pants. :)

  • I have DDS 1 and 2, its great game. The gameplay is boring, but the game storyline are amazing.

  • yay

  • It's a great game, and I know you'll like it.

    Don't forget to play Digital Devil Saga 2. It's not like persona, DDS2 is more of the story of #1

  • Hey, I played this a bit and all I can say is Lvl up Shishou(Master). And Yay vote for me. Kick ass Master

  • And Master, Welcome to the Junk yard.

  • Oh, DDS.

    Serph is a nice lead, you'll come to appreciate the crew.

  • I think you'll love this game LL, it has very interesting characters and lots of twists in the story, I would also like to mention that theres a 2nd sequel to this one

  • Nay for gameplay but if it's awsome YAY

  • From the very first bits on this intro, you KNOW the game's story's gonna be messed. UP.

    YAY!!!

  • Absolute yay for gameplay video's!

    Also I've seen that "Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon" will be coming out on 05/12/09 in the U.S. so possiblely that can be played too.

  • holy shit LL ur gonna love this game:)

  • YAY GOD DAMMIT! YAY YAY YAY YAY!

  • Dude get DDS2 too,its even better than the first one.

  • YAY!

  • YEY.

  • Voting Yay on gameplay vids. A friend of mine owned DDS in junior high and I played it for only one day... now I have no chance of doing it again since he sold his copy. Can't find DDS anywhere to buy it myself. D:

  • Yay for videos

  • Yay

  • Pls do this game

  • Yay!!! Because these games are full of win!

  • I wanna see see game play.

  • Yay Yay Yay

    Do it master!

  • ive beeen dying for you to do this

  • i vote Yay+1 also is this the very rare one for the ps2? nvr played a DDS game before

  • YAY

  • I loved the DDS games. I think you should inspired me to replay them all over again(at least finish m third playthrough for DDS2:) ).

  • i guese YAY for the intriging story.

  • Yay

  • YAY!!! LL you're the best.

    tip: Field hunt: under time limit, keep on slicing purple things until u find a Ara Mitama, hit it and engaged in a battle. Ara Mitamas are weak against ice, if one is frightened use the hunt skill (devour , comsume) to gain a huge atma points to master matamaga easily so u can learn new skills.

    Also make sure u party members have AP divide auto skill so they all gain Atma points and have mutual karma auto skill so they level up without being in battle.

  • I assume Field Hunt is something later on in the game?

    As for frightened, I should always use devour if any enemy is frightened for huge atma points?

    Is it hard to get the AP Divide and Mutual Karma skills? The ones in reserves needs it equipped for it to work right?

  • To find Field Hunt u have to go to a certain area on every dungeon.

    To get an enemy frightened, u have to hit it's weakness, making hunt skills more effective(gives more damage) when frightened.

    Well AP Divide and Mutual Karma takes time to obtain those skills and those will be handy for non-reserves(that are not choosed to be in battle).

  • Where is the Field Hunt in the first dungeon?

    I'm about to go back there since I missed a few chests (I figured out how to get those treasures.. shouldn't have activate the switch at the beginning).

  • The first dungeon (the Vangard base), I don't know it's has a field hunt or not.

  • Yay! I was going to play through this again cause its such a great series.

  • Yay! Thank you, LL!

  • Yay

  • YAY! I love DDS!!!

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  • I love this game, you are so lucky! Digital Devil Saga in our are cost $150 in some stores. They say its really rare.

  • Really? Dang.. I got mine at Gamestop ("used" with some discounts included). I figured $15 isn't that much to get and play it.

    They didn't have DDS2 though.

  • Yes it is its quite old.

    Still its fun!!!!!!!

  • Tips:

    1) Yes to Magic. Elemental Spells can be boosted and amped, so they do more damage. As an example, final boss, Heat (specs Str) was doing 600 damage Executioner, single target. Gale (specs balanced) was doing 700 damage with a Maziodyne, all target.

    2) Devour is keyed to Vitality, so don't neglect it.

    3) Buy only what you need, don't rely on too many items. Money is rare and important that you need to save as much as you get.

    4) Get Ingest Mana, then Chakra Walk as soon as you see them.

  • 5) Every party member should know at least two Ma~ spells for the elements and corresponding boosts/amps, if possible. This will become a little hard towards the end of the game, but it's a good goal.

    6) You will grind. Get used to it.

    7) Carry Dis-Aches and/or learn Iron Stomach quickly. Ache is horribly ridiculously annoying, but Iron Stomach may not be worth a Skill Slot.

    Anyway, it's been a while since I played DDS, so my tips may be a little outdated. It's a fun game though ^^.

  • Oh, forgot a last tip.

    8) When choosing an element a character should learn, try to learn an element that contains that character's weakness. For example, Serph is weak to Fire, so Serph should learn Fire Mantras. Towards the end of the games, Elemental Mantras will give a corresponding Resist, which will allow you to negate a character's weakness. Very important on later bosses.

  • 8) Wouldn't that slow the mantras growth for Ice Mantras and other ones that I might want to use (I think, remember, no manual, you need to spend mantra points to level the branches to learn skills)

    I could be wrong, I only mastered the default I got but didn't get any new mantras yet.

  • Just Do your best Sempai and have fun ask questions from us and you will receive it kay.

  • 1) I mean is it ok to ignore all stats and max Magic at beginning? It'll be like everything is 4 while Magic is 99.

    2) I just got that skill, what do you mean keyed to Vit?

  • 1) It's your call, but I find it easier to take 2 Magic, 1 Vit per level, on occasion leveling up 2 Vit, 1 Magic. It's more of a style thing though.

    2) Devour (and Hunt skills) deal damage based on Vitality, not Strength like other Physicals.

  • 8) Mantra points are actually pretty plentiful if you spend a little time grinding and devouring as many targets as possible. What's more limiting is the amount of money, but it's not too bad for each character to specialize in two elements at least. (Default Element + Opposite Element). If you're willing to grind, you can potentially level up several elements worth of mantras (for example, Gale had Maziodyne, Maragidyne, Mazandyne, and the final Almighty mantras without much work).

  • hmm really didnt know that i put str for that damn now i feel like an idiot well oof to play them again the right way

  • actually, I put the first two levels, 6 pts into strength, so I could finish off opps easy while you are still weak. Then u let the others catch up for a while. really depends on your style play but beating enemies with basic attacks means u dont use magic and nothing to replenish

  • Gameplay videos Yay!

    As long as its not too mucnh trouble of course.

  • Cool I like this opening.

  • I say yay.

    Not meaning to flatter you but thanks to you I enjoy both Persona 3 & 4! I been trying to get myself interested in the other SMT games that I can obtain like Nocturne or Digital Devil Saga so it would be nice if  I can see a walkthrough or gameplay of either series before I can purchase them!

  • Absolutely yay!

  • yay

    I can give tips and advice for this game so feel free to ask me anytime sempai

    Everyone else is also welcome to ask me questions

  • yay!x9000 LL-sempai!!and you too Izanagi-san!!!!

  • arigato gosaimasu black-kun!!!!!!!!! :)

  • Any tips and advice is always a good thing (as long it isn't a spoiler).

    I'm uploading the beginning gameplay right now so you can see what my style is somewhat.

  • yay

  • EPIC YAY

  • I vote YAY!!! 8)

  • I vote YAY for gameplay vids, i always wanted to play this game but cant seem to find it around here ._.

  • Yay for sure, and I always wanted to know more about this game, since I have access to a copy.

  • yay

    btw what kind of screw-up did they do on AT2?

  • yay :D

  • I would go with yay. I just wish I could find a copy of DDS2. :(

  • I shall vote for yay as well.

    Shin Megami Tensei games are awesome.

  • I say yay =]

  • YAY!!!!!!

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