take your racist garbage elsewhere please! "honor the clintons?" That sounds suspiciously like Obamabot language; I guarantee JohnMichaels is an Obamatroll.
yet if you had a million dollar it would make you a millionaire. Clinton got those votes ergo she can count them. People voted for her, is that hard to understand?
yes, but since Obama and Edwards weren't on the ballot at all in michigan because they followed their party rules, she has no right to claim that she is winning because of her votes there
i admit the Michigan thing is a problem, but it was their choice to remove themselves from the ballot there. Not to mention that DK was on the ballot as well, and she still would have won the state. But this is america every vote should count.
it was obama's choice to pull his name from the ballot, no one could vote for him cause he would not let them. Also Voters could have always written his name in, they chose not to.
Don't try and make an excuse for Clinton. Remember she was all for Michigan and Florida not counting and as soon as she begins to lose she changes her mind Every candidate but her took her name off the ballot and I think that's why she did it. If I'm still winning then don't worry about them but if I'm losing then that's my trump card and I can look like a fighter for their votes. Give me a break she needs to stop trying to change the rules and lose respectfully.
Like half of what you said is false. She wasn't the only name on the ballot both Dod and Congressmen Dennis K were on the ballots. Obama decided to take his name off the ballot. It was his choice, as it was her's to stay on the ballot. Sorry but it is Obama's mistake not hers.
Are you sure That Dod and K were on there because from other sources that I seeked her name was the only one that's why there were so many undecided voters. But do you really think that she would be making this argument if she was winning and also why support her when she at first stated that she was going to follow the rules and knew that they were not going to count then flip-flops on her position as if she was for counting them the entire time.
There were several names on the ballot. In no way shape or form was it a "Cuban ballot" unless the definition is: a ballot without Obama because he chose to remove his name. It was perfectly democratic Obama decided to remove his name, he wasn't required to.
Did you vote in Michigan? The only reason I ask this is because I know some people there and they said only her name was one the ballot and no one else. But Like I said before do you think she would be fighting for there votes like this if she was in the lead? Why back her up when she flip-flopped on her position? She had stated that they wouldn't count and they would follow the rules. It don't seem suspicious to you that she changed her position as soon as she was losing?
I've looked and some more sources and admit that I was wrong and there were some other names on the ballot so I do apologize for the false information given but I still stand behind what I said. She wouldn't have even thought about Florida and Michigan voters if she was winning. She just want to look like the fighter of democracy and let the all the votes count without penalty.
Revotes could have been held in both states, to "be fair" to Obama, even though he removed his own name from the ballot. Hillary Clinton favored revotes and even offered to help pay for the administration of it. State legislators requested Obama sign onto any revote but he wouldn't. Since there was no revote, and the original election was certified by the state, that is the election that counts. You were wrong about the ballot, think what else possibly? "false information" from blogs/NBC?
But he was for revotes as long as everything was made fair and for what was told everything was made to favor clinton but there's really no need for these disputes anymore now that he's the presumptive nominee.
Everything would have been 'made to favor Clinton'? How is that exactly? And these issues won't just disappear; they case a strong shadow of illegitimacy on Obama's 'nomination.' Hillary should keep fighting and take it to the convention; no primary race that was so close has ever been ended this soon.
I highly disagree with taking it to the convention. If you want a big party divide then that's what you will get if she goes and that will show that she puts herself over party and country. No democrat has ever one the presidency when it was taken to the convention. If she concedes now the party will have more time heal and get over frustrations and realize a common goal and that's to put a democrat in office. This country can't afford another republican in office right now.
It's simple really, Obama and Edwards play by the rules. Florida and Michigan voted too early. Hillary, win at all costs, no matter what the outcome. So basically Hillary cheated in the primary vote in these states and now people are demanding that these votes be counted? Ludicrous! Insane! Stupid!
Don't you need to be defending to surrender? Can you really surrender when you're the invader? I mean, the invader doesn't give up and get taken prisoner - they leave.
But, I don't know why I'm trying to have a robust vocabulary when analyzing Bush's prodigy
google: digg - ABC: Clinton's Questionable/Illegal Push Polls w/ith Audioblogs,abcnews,com — More proof that you can't trust Hillary R. Clinton: "the questions, as you'll hear, are unanswerable if you don't accept the basic premises laid out in them, like the classic push poll example 'Are you still beating your wife?' You can't answer that 'yes or no.'
BTW~THEY SHOULD HAVE A REVOTE LAST, AFTER EVERY OTHER STATE HAS VOTED. REMEMBER, HASTE MAKES WASTE AS MY GRANDMA WOULD PUT IT!
And the Obama camp has used the web and major mass blanketing communications, staging people behind the speaker, etc etc etc. They all do things to win. And have also lied about true connections about questional associations. So now we are even, so let the people vote.
NEWS BLAST!!!!! Pillarys major fundraiser, Gabriel Guerra-Mondragon has defected to the Obama camp today!!!!! Another Judas Pillary???He added that leaving the Clinton campaign for Obama's "was a very, very difficult decision for me to make. I am an old and longtime friend of Senator Clinton. And I continue to think she is a fantastic and formidable person. But I am first of all a Democrat."
If you count Michigan (where obama was not even on the ballot) and Florida (where there was little campaigning and voters were under the impression that their votes wouldn't count) and then if you don't count the votes of the caucus states clinton still trails (albeit slightly) in the popular vote.
BULL! No one campaigned in Florida. And fine, so revote both states in real time, and then the people win. No matter who wins. That is the democratic way. The whole voting system is in need of revamping.
The Clintons are now damaged goods. They will never again win a national election. The legacy of the Clinton administration, once something that Democrats took pride it, has now become dust and ashes. They will look very, very bad in the history books.
Obama will also look bad in the history, because you can say what you want, but his associations are real, and he was not honest up front. Covering them up, and condoning them is not good either. But this should be about the people and who wants to really protect us.
The Clintons are running a campaign that is based on fear and personal attacks. The have put the interests of the American people, and of their political party, in the basement so that they can pursue their own baby-boomer angst and narcissism. A person does not protect the American people by voting to send our troops to fight unnecessary wars.
to bad obama didn't actually vote on that war, and has aired just as many attack ads... i mean a speech is nice, but when it comes to action he has done nothing. Sponsored like two bills in the senate and hasn't even finished a term. yep someone like that with such a large political history would definitely know how to get things done.
But almost all of those attack ads were rebuttal ads to clinton attack ads and the Clinton campaign was the first to air an attack ad and to distribute false information about the other's campaign.
And Clinton is not really that much more experienced, when she said 35 years she meant how long she has been in public service, that would put Obama at 29, she had only 4 more years as a senator and 4 less years holding a public office.
Clinton is an inveterate liar — I am sorry, there is truly no other word for it — and as her ill-fated presidential campaign tumbles toward its inevitable demise, the personal deception that is at the core of her personality, and of her career, continues to reveal itself. What a shady and disgusting legacy she has created for herself....good bye Pillary Rotten Clinton.
The MI/FL quandry won't be solved because it falls very clearly on political lines: Obama people don't want the contests to count, Clinton people do; that's basically the whole story. I personally don't think they should count or that there should be a redo, but i'm an Obama person, and even though i could rattle off legitimate arguments to support my position, it's impossible to divorce myself from political allegience. Let it go folks, the DNC won't touch this with a telephone pole.
Well the DNC can take that telephone pole and put it you know where. This clown is furious at the attitudes of the Dem leadership. And the Obama camp of course does not care, but the American people do. The two states deserve a revote, as it was not the peoples' fault, it was reps and leaders. Hillary has a legitimate beef - she does have as many popular votes with Florida - and that was what the people said. It will create more badwill for Dems to not do a new revote. It's shameful!!!
I'm all for a revote, but the contests as they were shouldn't stand because Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan (which he had a very good chance of winning under normal circumstances). The Florida vote is a little shakier, and i wouldn't mind if it counted as it was because A) Hillary would have won in the first place and B) it was a legitimate primary with all names on the ballots even though many potential voters didn't show up because they thought it wouldn't count.
My opinion being from Michigan. Obama had a choice, leave his name on the ballot or remove it. It's not like Hilary was the only one on the ballot in Michigan and Florida, there were others. Granted they weren't major candidates but she didn't pull her name. Granted MI & FL broke the "rules" (and I use that term loosely). Hilary should get her delegates %wise and the rest of the delegates should decide between the two. The votes should count because having a voice shouldn't be a punishment.
Hillary should also get the votes she got as she got them. But if Dems are concerned, about the people of the US of A. they should have revoted. It is a travesty of justice and the American way. The DEMS are just toooooooofar GONNNNNNNNE to the LEFTTTTTTTTTTTT.
But Obama camp has done alot to stop it, because, oh wait, they are ahead, and what the heck, the last 9 states don't count anyway. NOT!
The leaders and reps did it, not the innocent voters. THIS is THE USA, all VOTES should count. I Say, vote them again, and give everyone a chance, then ON TO VOTER REFORM!
But oh wait! If you counted Michigan and Florida well... she just might lead!
It was not the voters, but the leaders who made the bad decision to go to early. The voters should not be punished. They should revote - And Clybern(u) is wrong. In fact, Bill Clinton did not use the race card - That was drummed out by the Obamakins! I am sick of the Obama camp and their vast reaching net fingers whining about the race thing. They made it blow up -
I say no to counting Michigan and Florida... we should follow rules... not go by what we see fit. That just makes breaking rules fine by the government (more than it already is).
Clinton is a big believer in "whatever helps me is legal, whatever doesn't help me is wrong!" Michigan, Florida shouldn't have violated rules that they agreed to. And Clinton agreed that the votes wouldn't count, but, of course, since she "won," she wants them counted. Obama pulled his name off the ballot in Michigan, but Clinton doesn't care, again, because she "won." How she sees that race as fair is beyond me, but that's typical Clinton behavior. Win at all costs, and anything that helps ME!
One thing the TV media doesn't say, because they don't want to hurt their ratings, is Clinton basically can't win. Far short of Obama being caught, say, in some political scandal on the level of molesting children, Obama's on his way to the nomination. Simply being resilient and tenacious isn't a reason to give someone the nomination. That's what Clinton is hoping for, but if the Dems override the delegates, they're going to hurt the Democratic future. Dems need to tell Clinton to step aside.
Here is the problem. The voters did not actually vote to do that. The leaders and reps did. OOOPS -The people always deserve a vote. What, are we North Korea, China, Russia or USA?
yeah, but since all the other candidates withdrew their names from the ballot... the only option was undecided of Clinton... so obviously she won and that has nothing to do with the publics opinion... this isn't a game.
Meanwhile in the real world, Obama continues to whittle away at Hillaryland's superdelegate lead which is down to only twenty-two. Obama's pledged delegate lead is 156. Obama is ahead of Clinton in the national polls for the nomination by an average of 9.6%.
People who think Hillary has a chance are either TeeVee pundits or believers in Tinkerbell.
...or they're casual observers who are engaged enough to vote, but not enough to seriously scrutinize the mathematical nuances. That, unfortunately is most people.
The dispute hinges on whether you count Michigan. And to do it the Clinton way, you have to assume that ZERO Michiganders want Obama to be president. Zero.
I love you man, but a good reporting of Clinton's claim would include that she's the popular choice only in the fantasy where Michigan is a zombie land of unanimous Clinton-loving robot mind slaves.
She is right. Operation Chaos was a success.
teamph33rsquad 3 years ago
fuck obama that fucking nigger. honor the clintons already.
JohnMichaels20 3 years ago
you are completely ignorant
zgalacticz 3 years ago
take your racist garbage elsewhere please! "honor the clintons?" That sounds suspiciously like Obamabot language; I guarantee JohnMichaels is an Obamatroll.
DukatSG1 3 years ago
You are a racist retard who really don't deserve the right to vote with ignorance like this. Go back to the 1960's where you belong
FreakinForte 3 years ago
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Emma60308 3 years ago
Does McCain still "hate gooks"?
this video sucks
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chuckinla 3 years ago
I can claim I am a millionaire, but it doesn't mean it is true.
DemocraticMedia 3 years ago
yet if you had a million dollar it would make you a millionaire. Clinton got those votes ergo she can count them. People voted for her, is that hard to understand?
Flyingthoughts 3 years ago
yes, but since Obama and Edwards weren't on the ballot at all in michigan because they followed their party rules, she has no right to claim that she is winning because of her votes there
tworadley 3 years ago 2
i admit the Michigan thing is a problem, but it was their choice to remove themselves from the ballot there. Not to mention that DK was on the ballot as well, and she still would have won the state. But this is america every vote should count.
Flyingthoughts 3 years ago
Not during a lack of legitimacy and one way benefits it shouldn't.
mike50333 3 years ago
Because in one of those states, hers was the only name on the ballot. That makes, um, somewhat of a difference.
esprit15d 3 years ago
it was obama's choice to pull his name from the ballot, no one could vote for him cause he would not let them. Also Voters could have always written his name in, they chose not to.
Flyingthoughts 3 years ago
Don't try and make an excuse for Clinton. Remember she was all for Michigan and Florida not counting and as soon as she begins to lose she changes her mind Every candidate but her took her name off the ballot and I think that's why she did it. If I'm still winning then don't worry about them but if I'm losing then that's my trump card and I can look like a fighter for their votes. Give me a break she needs to stop trying to change the rules and lose respectfully.
FreakinForte 3 years ago
Like half of what you said is false. She wasn't the only name on the ballot both Dod and Congressmen Dennis K were on the ballots. Obama decided to take his name off the ballot. It was his choice, as it was her's to stay on the ballot. Sorry but it is Obama's mistake not hers.
Flyingthoughts 3 years ago
Are you sure That Dod and K were on there because from other sources that I seeked her name was the only one that's why there were so many undecided voters. But do you really think that she would be making this argument if she was winning and also why support her when she at first stated that she was going to follow the rules and knew that they were not going to count then flip-flops on her position as if she was for counting them the entire time.
FreakinForte 3 years ago
There were several names on the ballot. In no way shape or form was it a "Cuban ballot" unless the definition is: a ballot without Obama because he chose to remove his name. It was perfectly democratic Obama decided to remove his name, he wasn't required to.
Flyingthoughts 3 years ago
Did you vote in Michigan? The only reason I ask this is because I know some people there and they said only her name was one the ballot and no one else. But Like I said before do you think she would be fighting for there votes like this if she was in the lead? Why back her up when she flip-flopped on her position? She had stated that they wouldn't count and they would follow the rules. It don't seem suspicious to you that she changed her position as soon as she was losing?
FreakinForte 3 years ago
Thank you for speaking the truth!
DukatSG1 3 years ago
I've looked and some more sources and admit that I was wrong and there were some other names on the ballot so I do apologize for the false information given but I still stand behind what I said. She wouldn't have even thought about Florida and Michigan voters if she was winning. She just want to look like the fighter of democracy and let the all the votes count without penalty.
FreakinForte 3 years ago
Revotes could have been held in both states, to "be fair" to Obama, even though he removed his own name from the ballot. Hillary Clinton favored revotes and even offered to help pay for the administration of it. State legislators requested Obama sign onto any revote but he wouldn't. Since there was no revote, and the original election was certified by the state, that is the election that counts. You were wrong about the ballot, think what else possibly? "false information" from blogs/NBC?
DukatSG1 3 years ago
But he was for revotes as long as everything was made fair and for what was told everything was made to favor clinton but there's really no need for these disputes anymore now that he's the presumptive nominee.
FreakinForte 3 years ago
Everything would have been 'made to favor Clinton'? How is that exactly? And these issues won't just disappear; they case a strong shadow of illegitimacy on Obama's 'nomination.' Hillary should keep fighting and take it to the convention; no primary race that was so close has ever been ended this soon.
DukatSG1 3 years ago
I highly disagree with taking it to the convention. If you want a big party divide then that's what you will get if she goes and that will show that she puts herself over party and country. No democrat has ever one the presidency when it was taken to the convention. If she concedes now the party will have more time heal and get over frustrations and realize a common goal and that's to put a democrat in office. This country can't afford another republican in office right now.
FreakinForte 3 years ago
you're not a millionaire if you can count your millions
palimony 3 years ago
It's simple really, Obama and Edwards play by the rules. Florida and Michigan voted too early. Hillary, win at all costs, no matter what the outcome. So basically Hillary cheated in the primary vote in these states and now people are demanding that these votes be counted? Ludicrous! Insane! Stupid!
saturnhexagon 3 years ago 2
Don't you need to be defending to surrender? Can you really surrender when you're the invader? I mean, the invader doesn't give up and get taken prisoner - they leave.
But, I don't know why I'm trying to have a robust vocabulary when analyzing Bush's prodigy
GyrinidaeRex 3 years ago
both the delegates and popular vote from Michigan and florida should count, taking democracy away from these people is wrong.
Flyingthoughts 3 years ago
You call a primary vote with only one name on the ballot democracy?
esprit15d 3 years ago 2
google: digg - ABC: Clinton's Questionable/Illegal Push Polls w/ith Audioblogs,abcnews,com — More proof that you can't trust Hillary R. Clinton: "the questions, as you'll hear, are unanswerable if you don't accept the basic premises laid out in them, like the classic push poll example 'Are you still beating your wife?' You can't answer that 'yes or no.'
BTW~THEY SHOULD HAVE A REVOTE LAST, AFTER EVERY OTHER STATE HAS VOTED. REMEMBER, HASTE MAKES WASTE AS MY GRANDMA WOULD PUT IT!
CivilProtectionMan 3 years ago
And the Obama camp has used the web and major mass blanketing communications, staging people behind the speaker, etc etc etc. They all do things to win. And have also lied about true connections about questional associations. So now we are even, so let the people vote.
SparklestheClown 3 years ago
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NEWS BLAST!!!!! Pillarys major fundraiser, Gabriel Guerra-Mondragon has defected to the Obama camp today!!!!! Another Judas Pillary???He added that leaving the Clinton campaign for Obama's "was a very, very difficult decision for me to make. I am an old and longtime friend of Senator Clinton. And I continue to think she is a fantastic and formidable person. But I am first of all a Democrat."
chuckinla 3 years ago
If you count Michigan (where obama was not even on the ballot) and Florida (where there was little campaigning and voters were under the impression that their votes wouldn't count) and then if you don't count the votes of the caucus states clinton still trails (albeit slightly) in the popular vote.
jonathanwindham 3 years ago
BULL! No one campaigned in Florida. And fine, so revote both states in real time, and then the people win. No matter who wins. That is the democratic way. The whole voting system is in need of revamping.
SparklestheClown 3 years ago
The Clintons are now damaged goods. They will never again win a national election. The legacy of the Clinton administration, once something that Democrats took pride it, has now become dust and ashes. They will look very, very bad in the history books.
classic14rider 3 years ago
Obama will also look bad in the history, because you can say what you want, but his associations are real, and he was not honest up front. Covering them up, and condoning them is not good either. But this should be about the people and who wants to really protect us.
SparklestheClown 3 years ago
The Clintons are running a campaign that is based on fear and personal attacks. The have put the interests of the American people, and of their political party, in the basement so that they can pursue their own baby-boomer angst and narcissism. A person does not protect the American people by voting to send our troops to fight unnecessary wars.
classic14rider 3 years ago
to bad obama didn't actually vote on that war, and has aired just as many attack ads... i mean a speech is nice, but when it comes to action he has done nothing. Sponsored like two bills in the senate and hasn't even finished a term. yep someone like that with such a large political history would definitely know how to get things done.
Flyingthoughts 3 years ago
But almost all of those attack ads were rebuttal ads to clinton attack ads and the Clinton campaign was the first to air an attack ad and to distribute false information about the other's campaign.
And Clinton is not really that much more experienced, when she said 35 years she meant how long she has been in public service, that would put Obama at 29, she had only 4 more years as a senator and 4 less years holding a public office.
jonathanwindham 3 years ago
I gave you 4 stars, you could had had 5 but for the Kid Rock comment.
ehhjeep 3 years ago
AHHHH SO GOOD SO GOOD!!! XD XD XD
I hope Hillary wins...
Nice line @ the end, btw.
semperlauda 3 years ago
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Clinton is an inveterate liar — I am sorry, there is truly no other word for it — and as her ill-fated presidential campaign tumbles toward its inevitable demise, the personal deception that is at the core of her personality, and of her career, continues to reveal itself. What a shady and disgusting legacy she has created for herself....good bye Pillary Rotten Clinton.
chuckinla 3 years ago
The Dems are responsible for their party, not the Repub. Obama does not want to revote. And changing the aportionment is unfair.
Michigan did not even have all on ballot.
The Dems need to fix their errors.
SparklestheClown 3 years ago
The MI/FL quandry won't be solved because it falls very clearly on political lines: Obama people don't want the contests to count, Clinton people do; that's basically the whole story. I personally don't think they should count or that there should be a redo, but i'm an Obama person, and even though i could rattle off legitimate arguments to support my position, it's impossible to divorce myself from political allegience. Let it go folks, the DNC won't touch this with a telephone pole.
DamNationDiplomat 3 years ago
Well the DNC can take that telephone pole and put it you know where. This clown is furious at the attitudes of the Dem leadership. And the Obama camp of course does not care, but the American people do. The two states deserve a revote, as it was not the peoples' fault, it was reps and leaders. Hillary has a legitimate beef - she does have as many popular votes with Florida - and that was what the people said. It will create more badwill for Dems to not do a new revote. It's shameful!!!
SparklestheClown 3 years ago
I'm all for a revote, but the contests as they were shouldn't stand because Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan (which he had a very good chance of winning under normal circumstances). The Florida vote is a little shakier, and i wouldn't mind if it counted as it was because A) Hillary would have won in the first place and B) it was a legitimate primary with all names on the ballots even though many potential voters didn't show up because they thought it wouldn't count.
DamNationDiplomat 3 years ago
My opinion being from Michigan. Obama had a choice, leave his name on the ballot or remove it. It's not like Hilary was the only one on the ballot in Michigan and Florida, there were others. Granted they weren't major candidates but she didn't pull her name. Granted MI & FL broke the "rules" (and I use that term loosely). Hilary should get her delegates %wise and the rest of the delegates should decide between the two. The votes should count because having a voice shouldn't be a punishment.
nikeguy05 3 years ago
Hillary should also get the votes she got as she got them. But if Dems are concerned, about the people of the US of A. they should have revoted. It is a travesty of justice and the American way. The DEMS are just toooooooofar GONNNNNNNNE to the LEFTTTTTTTTTTTT.
SparklestheClown 3 years ago
But Obama camp has done alot to stop it, because, oh wait, they are ahead, and what the heck, the last 9 states don't count anyway. NOT!
The leaders and reps did it, not the innocent voters. THIS is THE USA, all VOTES should count. I Say, vote them again, and give everyone a chance, then ON TO VOTER REFORM!
SparklestheClown 3 years ago
Don't fuck with Johnny you prick!
HG2013 3 years ago
But oh wait! If you counted Michigan and Florida well... she just might lead!
It was not the voters, but the leaders who made the bad decision to go to early. The voters should not be punished. They should revote - And Clybern(u) is wrong. In fact, Bill Clinton did not use the race card - That was drummed out by the Obamakins! I am sick of the Obama camp and their vast reaching net fingers whining about the race thing. They made it blow up -
SparklestheClown 3 years ago
I say no to counting Michigan and Florida... we should follow rules... not go by what we see fit. That just makes breaking rules fine by the government (more than it already is).
selftitled10 3 years ago
Clinton is a big believer in "whatever helps me is legal, whatever doesn't help me is wrong!" Michigan, Florida shouldn't have violated rules that they agreed to. And Clinton agreed that the votes wouldn't count, but, of course, since she "won," she wants them counted. Obama pulled his name off the ballot in Michigan, but Clinton doesn't care, again, because she "won." How she sees that race as fair is beyond me, but that's typical Clinton behavior. Win at all costs, and anything that helps ME!
mykalroze 3 years ago
One thing the TV media doesn't say, because they don't want to hurt their ratings, is Clinton basically can't win. Far short of Obama being caught, say, in some political scandal on the level of molesting children, Obama's on his way to the nomination. Simply being resilient and tenacious isn't a reason to give someone the nomination. That's what Clinton is hoping for, but if the Dems override the delegates, they're going to hurt the Democratic future. Dems need to tell Clinton to step aside.
mykalroze 3 years ago
Here is the problem. The voters did not actually vote to do that. The leaders and reps did. OOOPS -The people always deserve a vote. What, are we North Korea, China, Russia or USA?
SparklestheClown 3 years ago
yeah, but since all the other candidates withdrew their names from the ballot... the only option was undecided of Clinton... so obviously she won and that has nothing to do with the publics opinion... this isn't a game.
selftitled10 3 years ago
But not Michigan or Florida, because, here, they do not get to vote! What is that all about? Nonsense!
SparklestheClown 3 years ago
Those crazy politicians doing those crazy things they do. They're so silly. :)
Maddog53 3 years ago
wow. i don't know if this is a good or bad thing, but that was quite an excellent o-town impression :P
chelseyjane 3 years ago 2
James, you give it all and nothing at all in every video! :-D
buggamile 3 years ago
Yeah, maybe Not...
JXintheZ 3 years ago
That's a ridiculous assertion. The Clinton's will own those super delegates eventually - their evil!
tctasdf 3 years ago
Meanwhile in the real world, Obama continues to whittle away at Hillaryland's superdelegate lead which is down to only twenty-two. Obama's pledged delegate lead is 156. Obama is ahead of Clinton in the national polls for the nomination by an average of 9.6%.
People who think Hillary has a chance are either TeeVee pundits or believers in Tinkerbell.
allencrider 3 years ago 2
Yes!
...or they're casual observers who are engaged enough to vote, but not enough to seriously scrutinize the mathematical nuances. That, unfortunately is most people.
JoeFelice 3 years ago
yes, but your forgetting the last part of my argument, they're evil!!!!!
tctasdf 3 years ago
The dispute hinges on whether you count Michigan. And to do it the Clinton way, you have to assume that ZERO Michiganders want Obama to be president. Zero.
I love you man, but a good reporting of Clinton's claim would include that she's the popular choice only in the fantasy where Michigan is a zombie land of unanimous Clinton-loving robot mind slaves.
JoeFelice 3 years ago 2
Love the show bro
WhiteSword 3 years ago
So many wonderful music references lately. :) Great show!
emmylee04 3 years ago