Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist leader, is a disguting TRAITOR & MURDERER! In exchange for chinese military aids in the war with France (1945-1954), he gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos which are very rich in oil resources to China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a Father of Vietnam who lives as a god and sacrifices his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
The communist authority in Vietnam orchestrates the agent orange lawsuit as a propaganda for money through Nguyen Trong Nhan, a former health minister who is a vice chairman of the Vietnam Association for Victims of Agent Orange, and millions of dollars of compensation for victims would end up in the pockets of corrupt high-ranking officials as in the case of PMU-18 scandal in which foreign aid was used to gamble and pay for prostitutes. (Vietnam is ranked as one of most corrupt nations in Asia)
How about simpathy for American families, how they suffered losing a father or brother. The silence is deafing. This more communist propaganda from the enemy within.
Communist Vietnam invaded Laos and Cambodian territory through the Ho Chi Minh trail , Pol Pots main backer was CHINA you really should learn your history.
The international criminal court should have arrested all those nazi animal bastard U.S war criminals responsibled for this horrendous crime against Vietnam...put them on trial for war crime against humanity and EXECUTED these nazi dog bastards by hanging.
You are very naive , are you related to Joan Fonda, What about Communist atrocities , genocide persecution etc, in Cambodia Laos and Vietnam , They were all part of the Indochinese Communist party , Pol Pot , Uncle Ho and the Pathet Lao. ALL COMRADES,
If you're vietnamese, don't even claim and take pride in what Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese/Taiwanese people developed. You viets have nothing in research & development in any fields whatsoever. Stop trying to make yourselves look good by claiming what other, developed "East" asians created.
Dmasteran, you have no comprehension of the reasons for, events or aftermath of the Vietnam war. Watch this video: "The American War: The U.S. in Vietnam," on here. In reality, and in contrast to what your government told you, you were an invading outside infuence seeking to exploit the country. North and South Vietnam was an idea created to aid the American influence and then to excuse the war by creating a country which supposedly desired US help.
pointing out what the other side did doesnt excuse what the americans did, e.g. napalming(sp) an entire village to get at the vietcong, or, devestateing the countryside and crops to try to starve the vietnamese into submission.
Also, the 'vietcong' didnt have to recurute, after experiancing american 'civilisation' and 'protection' the vietcong had volenteers.
To your first point, you pretty much say "No one was right". Which I agree with you. If someone has a gun and another side has guns, no one is right. And I agree.
To the second part, Vietcong DID recruit. Sure some of them joined, but don't you think VC did things to make others join them?? Of course they did! Otherwise their wouldn't have been so many of them.
shame on the u.s i think not ..... we tried to help these people and they choose to keep there scamming ways . true it is sad but no blame should be on the Americans hands. The Americans sent just not troops but many other things as well and what did they get for all they done ? Well ill thank them. Thank you U.S for tring to make our world safe>>>>
Still justifying the illegal Vietnam war? Old news. That case has been decided- we LOST that one- and not just morally. Why don't you move on to justify yet another illegal war-- one we are ALSO losing morally and in every other way: Iraq.
Wars can't be justified silly. no one is right in a war. As long as you send people with guns in it to fight there is bad on both sides. You SHOULD know that... The US didn't exactly, lose, they didn't full complete their goal. A loss would be if the country was called "The United States of Vietnam". ;D
Dmasterman says: A loss would be if the country was called "The United States of Vietnam".
yeah, continue your critical thinking. Now who is being "silly"? I don't see that Germany, Japan OR Italy changed their names or became part of the United States when the US won THAT war. Your "logic"( or lack thereof) is truly amazing
Now you're blowing it out of proportion. The US never was trying to take over Japan or Germany, however they gave very strong influence did they not you silly fool. Does not Germany and Japan live in a freedom of democracy and capitalism? Vietnam is now a socialist government, which tend to do not all that well, but thats my opinion and a record of it. So technically it was Vietnam's true loss. Lol.
You digress. (typical of Republicans) Whether Vietnam's government is to your or my liking wasn't the discussion. It was whether the US lost the Vietnam war, which it certainly did, whether you like it or not.
I'm not a Republican (thats just your assumption, and it was a very bad one). It was a goal not finished. The entire US military was NOT destroyed. Due to this, it wasn't a loss. It was a cease fire because well the Vietnamese didn't want help and a whole bunch of them got killed once North invaded. However, the US wasn't beaten back and retreated to the beaches of Vietnam NOR were ever beat back to the seas, let alone our countries. The US just couldn't help them so they left.
It is obvious from your assertions that you have absolutely NO clear idea about the Vietnam war. I suggest you READ A FEW BOOKS, or if that's too tough, Google Kissingner, withdrawal, Vietnam, France, peace accord
Its obvious YOU don't know anything either. As said before, the only ones who really know what ever happened there are the US soldiers themselves. Were you there?-
Also, I didn't see that as a lost. But I WILL AGREE that the US should stop helping countries. The US doesn't have truly evil intentions when they aid a country that leads to war, but they will certainly most ALWAYS look like the real bad guy. The US has to stop aiding bad countries, no more giving away money or resource, if a country is attacked, we'll let them get destroyed unless it is a very valued ally. If not, we let em die I say.
Your naiveté on the "goodness" of the US military force is truly fascinating. You bought all the BS they sold you in 4th grade, didn't you? You REALLY think a government spends trillions of dollars to "help" other countries, when they haven't yet fixed the devastation of Katrina 2 YEARS ago????? WOW!
Perfect name by the way. The US was trying to make the world safe when it went to VIETNAM???? that is HILARIOUS. were the Vietnamese attacking ANY country? Noooooo. Read a little bit, stop spending so much time with your X-box.
How do you know this was caused by agent orange, ? birth defects occur all over the world.
scones55555 3 months ago
Christie, even though your father was obeying orders , that doesn't exempt him from being a war criminal.
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Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist leader, is a disguting TRAITOR & MURDERER! In exchange for chinese military aids in the war with France (1945-1954), he gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos which are very rich in oil resources to China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a Father of Vietnam who lives as a god and sacrifices his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
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The communist authority in Vietnam orchestrates the agent orange lawsuit as a propaganda for money through Nguyen Trong Nhan, a former health minister who is a vice chairman of the Vietnam Association for Victims of Agent Orange, and millions of dollars of compensation for victims would end up in the pockets of corrupt high-ranking officials as in the case of PMU-18 scandal in which foreign aid was used to gamble and pay for prostitutes. (Vietnam is ranked as one of most corrupt nations in Asia)
TOMP66666 2 years ago
How about simpathy for American families, how they suffered losing a father or brother. The silence is deafing. This more communist propaganda from the enemy within.
iwasbornin1963 3 years ago
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vtxtd2 3 years ago
Communist Vietnam invaded Laos and Cambodian territory through the Ho Chi Minh trail , Pol Pots main backer was CHINA you really should learn your history.
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The international criminal court should have arrested all those nazi animal bastard U.S war criminals responsibled for this horrendous crime against Vietnam...put them on trial for war crime against humanity and EXECUTED these nazi dog bastards by hanging.
BruceLeeKickYoAss4 3 years ago
You are very naive , are you related to Joan Fonda, What about Communist atrocities , genocide persecution etc, in Cambodia Laos and Vietnam , They were all part of the Indochinese Communist party , Pol Pot , Uncle Ho and the Pathet Lao. ALL COMRADES,
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vtxtd2 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this.
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If you're vietnamese, don't even claim and take pride in what Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese/Taiwanese people developed. You viets have nothing in research & development in any fields whatsoever. Stop trying to make yourselves look good by claiming what other, developed "East" asians created.
dmant 4 years ago
excuse me? what are you talking about? um i hope you realize that no all of us claim in pride what ever your saying.
xsweetredrosesx 4 years ago
Dmasteran, you have no comprehension of the reasons for, events or aftermath of the Vietnam war. Watch this video: "The American War: The U.S. in Vietnam," on here. In reality, and in contrast to what your government told you, you were an invading outside infuence seeking to exploit the country. North and South Vietnam was an idea created to aid the American influence and then to excuse the war by creating a country which supposedly desired US help.
shannahan 4 years ago
Why the hell does the US think they should be "helping" the Vietnamese in the first place? Any Democracy that deserves to exist must defend itself.
deadbutmoving 4 years ago
Painful to watch, knowing MY country caused these horrors to people who had never harmed us. How much worse for them to live it, for generations.
Thank you for keeping the truth out there
spookytom 4 years ago
Don't forget Vietcong commanders killed the eldest (sometimes village leader) to recruit people into their arms. Unique way of recruition.
Dmasterman 4 years ago
Dmasterman
pointing out what the other side did doesnt excuse what the americans did, e.g. napalming(sp) an entire village to get at the vietcong, or, devestateing the countryside and crops to try to starve the vietnamese into submission.
Also, the 'vietcong' didnt have to recurute, after experiancing american 'civilisation' and 'protection' the vietcong had volenteers.
kingOFtheFISHpeople 4 years ago
To your first point, you pretty much say "No one was right". Which I agree with you. If someone has a gun and another side has guns, no one is right. And I agree.
To the second part, Vietcong DID recruit. Sure some of them joined, but don't you think VC did things to make others join them?? Of course they did! Otherwise their wouldn't have been so many of them.
Dmasterman 4 years ago
Veitnam will suffer until it reforms. Communnism is dead.
Eat your little red book.
cjmyers505 4 years ago
Agreed.
Dmasterman 4 years ago
China/Vietnam still going strong. Still communist... You dare give me a date when they will die??? A:_________
vtxtd2 3 years ago
2017
Starvation change.
Cast off the chains.
cjmyers505 3 years ago
thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. for making it right..love to see someone have a heart...
reddragons007 4 years ago
sad story. shame on the u.s.
quadbock 4 years ago
shame on the u.s i think not ..... we tried to help these people and they choose to keep there scamming ways . true it is sad but no blame should be on the Americans hands. The Americans sent just not troops but many other things as well and what did they get for all they done ? Well ill thank them. Thank you U.S for tring to make our world safe>>>>
billbob1992 4 years ago
The US tried to take over Vietnam by gaining a foothold on 'South Vietnam'..Didn't you guys also help the French financially?
roflwoohoo 4 years ago
The US wasn't trying to take over it. If the US wanted to destroy or completly conquer a country the US can do that. Securing a country is harder.
Dmasterman 4 years ago
Dmasterman
Still justifying the illegal Vietnam war? Old news. That case has been decided- we LOST that one- and not just morally. Why don't you move on to justify yet another illegal war-- one we are ALSO losing morally and in every other way: Iraq.
spookytom 4 years ago
Wars can't be justified silly. no one is right in a war. As long as you send people with guns in it to fight there is bad on both sides. You SHOULD know that... The US didn't exactly, lose, they didn't full complete their goal. A loss would be if the country was called "The United States of Vietnam". ;D
Dmasterman 4 years ago
Dmasterman says: A loss would be if the country was called "The United States of Vietnam".
yeah, continue your critical thinking. Now who is being "silly"? I don't see that Germany, Japan OR Italy changed their names or became part of the United States when the US won THAT war. Your "logic"( or lack thereof) is truly amazing
spookytom 4 years ago
Now you're blowing it out of proportion. The US never was trying to take over Japan or Germany, however they gave very strong influence did they not you silly fool. Does not Germany and Japan live in a freedom of democracy and capitalism? Vietnam is now a socialist government, which tend to do not all that well, but thats my opinion and a record of it. So technically it was Vietnam's true loss. Lol.
Dmasterman 4 years ago
Dmasterman
You digress. (typical of Republicans) Whether Vietnam's government is to your or my liking wasn't the discussion. It was whether the US lost the Vietnam war, which it certainly did, whether you like it or not.
spookytom 4 years ago
Tom,
I'm not a Republican (thats just your assumption, and it was a very bad one). It was a goal not finished. The entire US military was NOT destroyed. Due to this, it wasn't a loss. It was a cease fire because well the Vietnamese didn't want help and a whole bunch of them got killed once North invaded. However, the US wasn't beaten back and retreated to the beaches of Vietnam NOR were ever beat back to the seas, let alone our countries. The US just couldn't help them so they left.
Dmasterman 4 years ago
Dmasterman
It is obvious from your assertions that you have absolutely NO clear idea about the Vietnam war. I suggest you READ A FEW BOOKS, or if that's too tough, Google Kissingner, withdrawal, Vietnam, France, peace accord
spookytom 4 years ago
Typo. Correct spelling is Kissinger.
spookytom 4 years ago
Its obvious YOU don't know anything either. As said before, the only ones who really know what ever happened there are the US soldiers themselves. Were you there?-
Dmasterman 4 years ago
Also, I didn't see that as a lost. But I WILL AGREE that the US should stop helping countries. The US doesn't have truly evil intentions when they aid a country that leads to war, but they will certainly most ALWAYS look like the real bad guy. The US has to stop aiding bad countries, no more giving away money or resource, if a country is attacked, we'll let them get destroyed unless it is a very valued ally. If not, we let em die I say.
Dmasterman 4 years ago
Dmasterman
Your naiveté on the "goodness" of the US military force is truly fascinating. You bought all the BS they sold you in 4th grade, didn't you? You REALLY think a government spends trillions of dollars to "help" other countries, when they haven't yet fixed the devastation of Katrina 2 YEARS ago????? WOW!
spookytom 4 years ago 2
Hey, billbob1992
Perfect name by the way. The US was trying to make the world safe when it went to VIETNAM???? that is HILARIOUS. were the Vietnamese attacking ANY country? Noooooo. Read a little bit, stop spending so much time with your X-box.
spookytom 4 years ago
search for user pinkyshow here on YT
look at the Viet NAM episode.
don't disregard the use of cartoon characters.
that is serious historical research and the telling of hidden truth.
Stupid idiot!
arrogant asshole
Mapanatl 4 years ago
Thank you for your work. Thank for showing it to the world.
vnRock 4 years ago