Julian Bream-Mudarra-Fantasia#14

[MrJonahWhaler]

not technique first, but approach. Bream was one of the beginners. When I listen to his performance on lute or vihuela I actually hear how curious he is to explore those 'new' instruments, to taste it - but with guitar approach - not to blame. 

Smith plays namely lute and vihuela, he understands instrument differently from the guitar, and music involves the instrument . Other phrasing, dynamics - to have technique to express it it's the idea.

Bream could do it better with guitar.

[xrustynailsx]

4 PPL are Deaf and don't kno wat there missing

[edgardusXII]

Mr. Hopkinson Smith possesses a smoother interpretation given the use of historical technique. Otherwise, Mr. Bream is a superbly modern guitarist.

[iorixs]

his playing isnt really very dynamic and expressive is it?

[ftryew]

is this jimi hendrix boys and girls

[xYEAHxKYLEx]

here the hell do i find a score for this im in love with this =)

[durro9xl]

@xYEAHxKYLEx ? dont u mean where the hell?

[durro9xl]

@xYEAHxKYLEx u cud,nt play that anyway

[thejugglenaut91]

holy shit that guy is a dumbass. You are so right. And how does he think that the instruments have evolved and standardized such as they have? Great MUSICIANS like bream making MUSIC! That's what instruments are for.

[ilTroubadori]

what would you say the length and shape of bream's nails were ?

[clash44]

probably near the same length of any other classical guitarists... about a 16th of an inch, it wont be perfect but he was probably colser to that length for control purposes and tonal purposes- considering he played instruments like the lute and baroque guitar and so couldn't have them in the longer register. as a classical guitarist tho you'd probably want them just a little longer that. shape wise, round and curved down on the edges for tremolos, to avoid breakage and avoid the tinny sound of

[clash44]

of a pointed nail... i don't no if the other half of my comment was posted; but if it didn't and your still curious about nail and instrument compatability feel free to message me

[gmtdiato]

Thanks for the video.I used to see Mr. Bream back in the 60's / 70's . Why don't people cut the cr--? and appreciate what he has done. {may your supine pinkies never drop off!?}

[caeruleus12]

It goes without saying Mr. Bream is almost completely responsible for reviving English Renaissance music (i.e. Dowland etc.). He is a grandly magnificent classical guitarist beyond the first order (needles to say in the utmost!). His interpretations for Spanish guitar is wondrous. However, LAY OFF THE VIHUELA SIR. THAT IS NOT YOUR REALM. Thank you.

[psyentist420]

I think as a musician he should be able to attempt to embody any music that he feels is important to his soul. he has likely read the texts and obviously isnt attempting to recreate the 16th century or else im sure he would have the decency to dress in the proper clothing for the period. its a sharing of music not a museum

[Pitcairn2]

Why does this person (caeruleus) get loads of Negatives? He has stated the truth about Bream . However

Do you mean That Bream Shouldnt play the Vihuela? if thats the case then take 10 negs from me..

[sprite1098]

There is NO KNOWN dogmatic technique for playing ANY old instrument.Julian Breams` playing of the Vihuela is joyous and wonderfully personal.I know of no better recordings than his.That said his playing of the lute is HEAD,SHOULDERS AND BODY above anyone elses`.His playing of Milano and Dowland are divine.Please don`t even mention people playing such music on the guitar.Such music demands a lute of 14 courses(usually with 34 strings) and anything less is doing the composer an injustice!!!!

[caeruleus12]

An addendum: This idea of modern guitar masters assuming they can play period instruments with complete legitimacy is silly. They would do well by paying homage to the efforts of those Renaissance masters having laboured so many hours in generating the techniques proper to these instruments. Should I play a classical guitar with a supinated hand?

[unvmoi]

No, you're wrong, it's not silly at all.

In fact, being able to play various different instruments WELL says a lot about your talent.

And Julian Bream can play the Vehuela, Lute, Modern Classical Guitar, Baroque Guitar, etc.

That says A LOT about how good he is.

[caeruleus12]

If Bream's attempt is to capture (at least) some of the musical zeitgeist of the vihuelan period, he needs to have his hand supinated. The pinky finger, in addition, must remain in contact with the surface. He must refer to the HISTORICAL texts of these Spanish masters. Why the negation of these masters? The damn texts are available!

[RandomMocker]

If you knew anything about the Guitar (don't worry this can be related), you'd know that keeping your pinky in contact with the surface creates a lot of tension in the hand and as a result can permenantly damage your hand - those who done it in the Vihuelan period will almost certainly have had to stop playing at some point in their lives. However, they may not have had the average length of lifespan required to see these results, as we do today.

[luteguitar]

@RandomMocker John dowland 63 Weiss 64 Piccinini 72 Schlick 61 De visee 77 Attaingnant 57 Petrucci 73 Kapsberger 71 Milan 60 E.Gaultier 66 D.Gaultier 75 Dufaut 68 They lived enough to see if that position caused problems, sorry but what your writing are not facts,on a lute the hand is parallel and the little finger on the soundboard is not maintained by FORCE . And we are not stupid if we use that technique is because there are not problems. A lutenist.

[Mistermagoo77]

@caeruleus12

U R A  TWIT

[0pteryx]

Haha, that's quite funny.

[codonauta]

The people didn't like my joke. I got 6 negative!

:o)

It was the first time i had a commentary banished

in youtube.

[paolomanueldec]

I think i'm the only one here who got your joke... -6 and none of them actually caught it! unbelievable!

[caeruleus12]

All due respect to Mr. Bream, but does he think he can play period instruments legitimacy? Including the vihuela here? This piece requires a renaissance technique with a supinated hand. Not the employment of the modern classical guitar technique (as he is doing here).

[GaleoDeus]

Honestly, what does it matter if it's legitimate when played so well?

Your condemnation is like saying its of no use to listen to Szeryng or Heifetz playing the Bach Chaconne because they are using modern bows, modern bow grips and modern strings. Or Gould because he plays a Steinway.

Even well respected early music scholars like Hopkinson Smith habitually uses modern guitar technique.

[marsvltor2]

Agreed - what Heifetz did with the Chaconne was unbelievable. And the wonderful change to the major (one of the great moments in music) is handled in a way that will always take my breath away. Magnificent.

[luteguitar]

@GaleoDeus I know your comment is old but can you please show me a Hopkinson Smith video where he play with guitar technique??

Or another great lutenist.

[edgardusXII]

@luteguitar I concur with your question. I have yet to see Dr. Hopkinson Smith approach a Renaissance or Baroque era instrument using modern guitar technique; he's a historical scholar for these periods. Hence, the application of technique appropriate to these intruments.

The same goes for Mr. Paul O' Dette.

[Luthval]

It is not a vihuela but a renaissance guitar with four courses.

Even if M. Bream technic is not renaissance, his playing is wonderful (as usual)

Val ;-)

[djypsydjazz]

You might be right. It does seem underdecorated to be a vihuela and it seems to be the right size for a renaissance guitar too. He is a brilliant player either way.

[djypsydjazz]

it also has less strings than a vihuela.

[scubacaver]

Ok lets see you do it better and post it here so we can all slate your recital :o)

[BruceMenigh]

Yes, he does think EXACTLY that: "I can play period instruments legitimately, I have dedicated my entire life to doing just that, thank you very much". If you haven't done likewise, you are in no position to criticize, because, obviously, you don't know shit. This piece doesn't "require" a specific technique, it "requires" the correct phrasing, the correct interpretation - the technique is subject to that, not the other way around. As usual, Bream excels in his interpretation.

[balamex]

Well said Bruce, besides Bream didnt/doesnt use modern classical guitar technique. Its also good to add that the vihuela barely has a meaning as an instrument wich means, its shape, strings, technique, songs were diffirent all the time. The only mistake I see on Bream is hes sitting position, becouse it is unhealthy, but hes playing is great. Not letting old techniques evolve is stupid.

[Beyondward]

actually his technique here is superior to the renaissance supinated hand technique.

[lakeylove]

Agreed.

[Pitcairn2]

You sir have too much time on your hands.

[tecnico123]

tu puta madre pendejo, exelente interpretacion good job :D