Dennis Skinner Interview - Election 1992 (second day)

[temporaldisplacement]

This man left his wife for his young american secretary and spent his entire political career attacking anything that threatend the share prices of the coal mine he owns a great deal of shares in ....he is a deciever a user and a beast of bolsover. Human scum.

[tdp1909]

It's funny - he speaks a lot of good sense in the first half of the video and then the mask comes off when attacking what IS a progressive idea - PR. People may admire him for his 'hellfire' style but he'd have made a truly awful leader, in the mold of Captain Bligh...

[HamerD]

@tdp1909 being against a progressive idea isn't inconsistent with being labour. There are weaknesses to PR that any sensible person can see, and strengths...some people will come down on either side because of personal moral priorities.

[tdp1909]

@HamerD True - ditto with the Tories, but I was more commenting on how ridiculously aggressive he can be against potential allies...

[HamerD]

@tdp1909 true, I have to agree I think he would be the sort of leader as you say. He best serves the country being a beacon of modesty, honesty and honourable duty. MPs on all sides should follow his examples on expenditure and voting record. Perhaps not so much his rabid divisiveness...

[tdp1909]

@HamerD Agreed - couldn't have put it better myself :-)

[thesubtleface]

@HamerD I completely agree. His divisiveness and personal attacks are regrettable but from what I have seen he seems to have great integrity

[19STU84]

This was when Labour was a real party of the working class. Now its run by southern elitists who have no idea how working class people live.

[lloydwood8]

A vile person. God Save Her Majesty The Queen.

[essertpitay]

He has definitely got a problem with the Germans. And He does not accept defeat gracefully.

[listerone]

I'll wager that as a child that punk was stealing his classmates' lunch money.

[birtleybadboy]

Stupid fucker!!!!!

[arthur1411]

OMG I forgot what a "politician" Skinner was / is.

He should have run for leader.

[shinystones]

@arthur1411 Yes and consign his party to another decade in opposition!

[boldertits]

True libdems are failing.

[chrish12345]

this is why Skinner never got anywhere. hes too honest, you can't have power and honesty, I know which I'd rather ave, and it aint power.

[bigderekkeene]

@chrish12345 Hmmmm, im guessing honesty

[chrish12345]

@bigderekkeene no I lied

[324wilson]

Does he ever smile?

[chrish12345]

@324wilson no he'd rather suffer

[kitwann1]

A brilliant speaker go to one of his meetings he gives you hope in left wing politics it is the Tory lib Dem's who are the dinosaurs .READ your history when the Tory and liberal governments were in power the most corrupt greedy rulers of the day liberals always said some thing must be done about the slums and poverty nothing was done.1945 the first socialist Labour Party was elected by those brave people coming back from worst WAR in history and we are still getting the benefits today.

[TheMarlinspike]

@kitwann1 If this is the only hope you have, socialism is finished, thank fuck!

[wakeylad81]

what a fucking fossil this old gimmer is

[dasrhinegold]

@wakeylad81 Whatever ...you cock.

[esheshe92]

great man,what a proper labour politician should be

[alman53]

He was wrong about them going downhill, and also just because only 18% voted Liberal then, more than that supported PR, or at least AV, I'm more against FPTP than I am for PR.

[bismuthcadmium]

Crikey Giles Radice looks like Exeter from This Island Earth

[bismuthcadmium]

Crikey, Giles Radice looks like Exeter from This Island Earth

[fuckthehuns1]

Old School Labour lol

[skinnyjim1980]

Love his reference to Roy Jenkins..."Woy of the Wadicals" LMAO

[JackoSpireite]

always voted skinner made our area great and is proof there are some true mp's that are labour left even though i voted torie in manchester this year

[otleybey]

Dennis Skinner is so good.

[timegrinder]

skinners a legend. and i vote tory.

[cammyl39]

Everything a Labour MP should be, a representative of working class people, not a Neo Liberal political careerist .

[TheMarlinspike]

@cammyl39 He's a dick

[shinystones]

@cammyl39 I disagree. What he (and his party) should have represented was the nation in its entirety. Any politician who restricts his support to one group of people, whether they be rich, poor, black, white, christian, muslim etc etc misses the point of national leadership - I live in the forlorn hope that all politicians have that bigger, more altruistic approach to government.

[cammyl39]

@shinystones Dennis Skinner couldn't possibly have consigned his party to another year in opposition as he is a left wing socialist MP and the party has been controlled by the right wing leadership who are Neo Liberals.

[shinystones]

@cammyl39 It was those very left-wing socialist views that gave the impression (rightly or wrongly) that this Country was on its knees - Wildcat strikes, the humiliation of going cap-in-hand to the IMF to bale us out of certain bankruptcy, the 'Winter of Discontent' and being known across the world as 'The sick man of Europe'.

What strikes me about this interview is that he is so aggressive, itching to have a fight - look at his reaction when he is congratulated on his re-election - graceless.

[cammyl39]

@shinystones It is the greedy capitalist bankers that have our country in a mess not the Trade Unions or the Socialist Mp's that represent ordinary working class people, for the last 30 years we have been ruled by war mongering capitalists who spend billions destroying life.

[shinystones]

@cammyl39 That's a rather 'black and white' response Cammy - I just don't think it's that simplistic. We're all capitalists whether we like it or not and of course it is capitalism that pays for unemployment/disability benefit, education, civil and national defence, the national health service, all public sector employment, all infrastructure in fact. The alternative method has been abandoned even by China now quite simply because it didn't work.

[jgffeqafiwfrwjgo]

@shinystones No, we're not "all capitalists" but thanks to yet another insight into the intellectual barrenness of the Tory party and its cohorts. Funny you mention China, though. If "the alternative" (cue ghosts wailing) is such a failure, how is China the economic powerhouse we see today?

[shinystones]

@jgffeqafiwfrwjgo Every time you go to the shops and go to work and get a wage and pay taxes and use the public services paid for by this capitalist system you are part of it - whether you approve of it or not. You could totally opt out of course, but then you'd be living a very remote existence.

Regarding China, is it not obvious? They have adopted a capitalist system, except they have decided to keep themselves in power. More billionaires there than anywhere in the world under a dictatorship!

[shinystones]

Respond to this video... ....as did Russia and every other ex-Soviet Bloc Country. I'm not, despite what you might allude to, a true blue Tory Party flag-waving member. I just think it's not as black and white as some might suggest. I think every major political party has the welfare of their Country at heart and probably agree (secretly) on more things than not. Neither political party is intellectually barren. We just need to stop seeing things in such a myopic way.

[jgffeqafiwfrwjgo]

@shinystones Not *that* "black and white", but enough so to permit make blanket statements like 'we're all capitalists'? Good work, and thanks for those shocking revelations about our friends in Russia and China. Anyone who ascribes to neoliberalism -- an ideology which, by its very nature, can only contribute to the welfare of a minority and is doomed to fail -- is intellectually barren. Same goes, I'm tempted to say, for anyone which such a rose-tinted view on our contemporary pseudodemocracy.

[shinystones]

@jgffeqafiwfrwjgo Your language is couched in terms no one I know uses - Neo-this and pseudo-that and predictably dripping in the sarcasm and anger of one not interested in dialogue, but rather promoting a myopic ideology. I have been careful not to do that but you just can't help it can you? No real response to my points on China and Ex-Soviet Union because you have none. Good luck -please don''t respond as I know it'll be full of bile. But remember, you choose to be angry, no one makes you so.

[jgffeqafiwfrwjgo]

@shinystones Not my ideology to push ("neoliberalism": look it up) but no real discussion can ignore it. For C & R, you're disregarding the fact that in certain aspects their non-socialism has been highly successful -- obviously because of the privileges afforded to a much wider demographic in the West (eg yrself) -- and this I feel always stifles any real dialogue. Which is, apparently, what you seek. But this is only Youtube, and glib snide quips are much more convenient in the space provided.

[shinystones]

@jgffeqafiwfrwjgo Well I try to steer clear of glib snide quips and would recommend you to in the spirit of open- hearted and open-minded dialogue - even if we only do have a few lines to attempt it.

[cammyl39]

Respond to this video... Dennis Skinner treats the smug David Dimbleby with the contempt he deserves.

[cammyl39]

@shinystones The accepted definition of working class is anyone who works to earn a living to support themselves and their family. This would include rich people with small businesses,poor, black, white, Christian, Muslim, Hindu ect. It would not include the shareholders of multinational companies who sit back and reap the benefit of other peoples work. These people are represented by the Tories. The Labour Party was set up by the unions to represent the working class which includes 90% of pop

[cammyl39]

@shinystones The accepted definition of working class is anyone who works to earn a living to support themselves and their family. This would include rich people with small businesses,poor, black, white, Christian, Muslim, Hindu ect. It would not include the shareholders of multinational companies who sit back and reap the benefit of other peoples work. These people are represented by the Tories. The Labour Party was set up by the unions to represent the working class which includes 90% of pop

[shinystones]

@cammyl39 @cammyl39 Hello Cammy, that may well be the accepted definition, but you know and I know and we all know, that not what he meant. If the Tories only represented 'the shareholders of multinational companies', they'd get less than 1% of the national vote! I'm not saying I don't like Dennis Skinner, I think he is true to his beliefs - I just think they're wrong. If the Labour Party was set up to represent 90% of the population, surely we would be in a one-party state.

[ajs41]

@cammyl39

Dennis Skinner wasn't entirely right about the City of London in this interview, because the Financial Times newspaper famously decided to back Labour in the 1992 election.

[HURUHRA]

Awesome stuff by the master Tory hater-brilliant !!

[Indul1]

Class politics Dennis..........Class performance by Skinner

[Nosmos]

Let me finish!!!

[densaner77]

Paddy Backdown! Classic.