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  • Our darkside is so unpredictable.

  • I think its kinda sad Gordon has no idea what he's doing. Gordon shows great acting when it comes to psychosis.

  • You people are completely missing the entire meaning of this movie...there is absolutely nothing supernatural and demonic here. Simon is just one of the alters of a patient in the hospital, who had multiple personalities (if you watched the movie carefully, you'd notice it in the tapes).

    So, basically, the evil alter ego (Simon) will be in Gordon's mind, too.....

    It's the so-called dark side that any of us can have, especially "the weak and the wounded", that's what he said too, at the end.....

  • Lots of doubts flowing right now after just watched the movie... What is it with the wallet the Caruso character is holding?.. And the coins everywhere?. The Jiff jar in the floor?.. Caruso not calling his pal's girlfriend?

    One thing is sure for me and is Simon being a demon. I've seen lots of comments talking about inner madness and such but it was very clear that Simon was some kind of evil spirit possessing weak people, he even introduces himself to Gordon in a part of the movie...

  • @Drevo. You are the first one ive seen post in here that sees it the way I see it.

  • Definately one of my favorites

  • Phil's buddy Craig McManus finally shows up. he lasts about 2 min before Gordon shoves the ice pick in his eye. Craig kind of looked like a douche.

  • I laughed at blank21121 comment about gordon snapping when he saw the kid (jeff) eating his oreos... lol

  • I STILL don't get what was supposed to have made Gordon kill his wife and baby in the first place, since apparently he did it BEFORE at the fun at the lunatic asylum even got started...

  • @Edotter Gordon was weak before he even stepped foot in the asylum. Simon possessed him within minutes of being in the building . Gordon went home that evening and his wife Wendy spilled hot water on his leg.Simon gave him homicidal impulse and told him to "Do It". Basically from then on Gordon goes down hill becomes insane and starts killing his co workers. Mike playing the old tapes of Mary lets old ghosts out from the past adding to the nightmare.

  • @Edotter

    Some people seem to be confused about this part of the film. Maybe it´s the way it´s edited.

    Gordon and Phil went to take the job and survey the place. When Gordon saw that insanely creepy wheelchair, Simon talked to him and "posessed" him. Then, Gordon went back to his home and his wife accidentaly wounded him. In that moment, Simon "introduced himself" and made Gordon kill his wife and daughter.

  • @Edotter Gordon was in the building earlier to bid the job. He was having problems with his wife, was weak and wounded, and Simon enters. At some point later, Gordon, now possessed, kills his family and then shows up for work, where he kills everyone else. It appeared that Gordon was living in the building, almost as if he belonged there.

  • I'm probably among the minority here, but I really don't see this movie as being about the supernatural. I think that Simon is just part of a fragile psyche that shattered a long time ago. Yes, there are parallels between him and Gordon, but maybe that's because their minds were sort of the same - they wanted to do something bad, and so they did. Maybe Simon is just a part of everyone, not so much a demon, but a part of humanity.

  • @Ravendarkheart I always saw Gordon as having -been- that kid they interviewed, only that he had forgotten all about it, hidden his memories of that time in the asylum.

  • @Ravendarkheart -- Sorry, Simon is clearly a demonic manifestation. You are putting too much thought into it, grasping at straws that don't exist. The "Occam's Razor" principle - "The Simplest Answer is Usually Correct" applies here. Also, the idea of Gordon being the little kid in the well is a bit too coincidental, and would be pretty bad screenwriting.

    Like the Exorcist, this movie is scary because it deals with demonic manifestation, which many people believe in. Truly scary.

  • @pixelopolis A concept like Occam's Razor applies to real life. It's totally misapplied in the case of a psychological horror movie, particularly this one, which is SUPPOSED to be twisted/unpredictable/ambiguou­s.

  • @Steeveriffic Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. :)

  • So many layers to this film. Crazy movie. Creepy as hell with haunting preformances.

  • i remember watching this movie. it was okay for me, but it was definitely creepy

  • i knew it was gonna be gordon as soon as hank sees that peanut butter in the basement. they shouldnt have put that bit in there. and to anyone thinking that simon is a demon is so wrong. this movie has nothing to do with the supernatural which is what makes it so good

  • I think its silly when people say Simon was the darkness that lives in us all! I have no feelings of that sort of rage. Simon is a demon that possessed Mary and when she died it stayed in that place until Gordan stared down at that chair and it said "Hello Gordan". Theres no need to complicate it all, its a demon.

  • Does anyone else interpret Phil as being as an a representation of all of humanity? I always figured that Billy and the Princess were the two positive sides of people, protection and innocence, and when Simon says that he 'lives in the weak and the wounded' I was thinking that he was taking advantage of one weak and wounded person, Phil.

  • Such a chilling movie

  • this is one of those horror movies that doesn't need to have gore, blood, and violence to let you know what's going on or to make you terrified. you know what's happening it's just so erie that makes you scared.

  • at 5:45 who is talking to Gordon and telling him to "wake up and remember"? The voice also tells him to "do it Gordon". I'm thinking that the voice is Simon's but it just doesn't sound the same as it does at the end. Anyone got any ideas?

  • @MAClamaire

    It's definitely Simon, but sounds like a Simon/Phil(Caruso) combination. I thought it fit well, like the transition of Gordon's dellusional paranoia about Phil melting away to reveal Simon and his (possible) influence. A transition into the unveiling that made the ending so... terrifying.

  • @ChildOfMoth I see, so perhaps Phil was really Simon in disguise the whole time? Interesting. I love how I have seen this movie a number of times and every single time its over I'm left with more and more questions. Brilliant film.

  • i really just think gordon snapped when that kid ate his oreos...

  • @blank21121 was going to say how stupid what you said was but then I saw that you watch family guy so its typical stupid behavior of idiots who watch that show.

  • @DyNaMisWeApOn it was just a joke...oh and i hate family guy... its just shitty flashbacks and cut aways and bullshit with a giant chicken. i dont really see the humor in that show.

  • @DyNaMisWeApOn

    That's an awfully untrue generality.

  • @ChildOfMoth Actually it's very true you're just delusional.

  • @blank21121 sombody ate my oreos i would i kill them to

  • This is one of, if not THE best, horrormovies of the last decade. And totally underappreciated by most reviewers and poser-horror fans. The slow buildup, the session tapes going from paralell story to be revealed as the damn story itself... "I live in the weak and wounded, doc." Just brillant!

  • I am fucking awake!!

  • Ya know...Simon sounds a lot creepier in surround sound.

  • K, seriously, what the fuck. Every video I watch on this fucking site today. It stops at a random part, with the video fully buffered. No matter how many times I refresh. This happening to anyone else?

  • @PayNoAttentiontoCaes, try using a different browser, doesnt happen on safari or firefox for me only internet explorer.

  • simon is the best charcter thumbs up if u beleve me

  • @MrDeath319 Simon will always give me the creeps.

  • @YayAGreenOne yea dude when he says doc and crap

  • my favorite horror movie! I was freaked out when I first saw it! And in the begining I was sure the red-haired one was the bad one...

  • @TheOrka91 lol no shit i did too

  • do it .....GORDON .....

  • I can hear the voices......Don't get to close....They're telling me to kill you.....I don't want to...but i can't help it..

  • Thank you! But, the laughter... How could you cut out the laughter?

  • Saw this back in 2001 I believe. I thought he was hitting her, which is why he was apologizing at the end. Turns out he kills her...

  • "I live in the weak and the wounded..." damn.

  • :37 i ain't even mad

  • 3:07 - 6:33 - 6:52

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  • Wait was Hank still alive?Cause Phil said he was hurt not dead.

  • @Tugi168 Yeah, he was just labotomied.

  • Thanks for uploading this scene i've been looking for it everywhere

  • It's either about the dark corners in ever person's mind or it's about a demon that possesses a vulnerable person. Take your pick.

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  • 3:15 What the fuck's up with that music?

  • @aw3some5 it adds to the erie-ness of the movie

  • @aw3some5 i know for some reason the music really disturbs me, well the whole movie did but that scene especially lol

  • This movie could have been sooooo much better.

  • Simon is a demon. No need to over complicate it. Many have stress from families far worse than Gordon's. Mary was a child with a normal family as far as we know. Mary's voice was inhuman on the tapes. Also, when Gordon saw her chair, Simon entered him because that's where it dwelt.

  • Because of this film, the actor playing the part of Gordon (Peter Mullan) was able to produce & direct his own project 'The Magdelene Sisters' based on many true stories. It's not a horror (well, it kind of is horrific in places) but it is excellent. Just my personal opinion (not spamming!)

  • Having two very young nieces, it absoulutley disturbs me- the scene of him murdering his baby daughter. Sick. Even if it is just a movie.

  • @fishdified they never showed him murdering his baby daughter....

  • @Rockoss No but you hear it.

  • If you like horror films- see this.

    It's crazy scary, in a way that's unnerving.

  • "wake up...wake up gordan freeman wake up and smell the ashes"

  • @InternetMasterMindX hell yes

  • @colonelsandersjr do you play half life?

  • @InternetMasterMindX who doesn't? If you don't you shouldn't be allowed a computer in your house.

  • I love the movie and espiacially the ending.

    I mean, so sick and twisted and you wasn't able to know whats happening till the very end.

    I just love it.

    Also the explanation of what Simon is, how he describes himself, his "job", where he comes from. A psychic movie in the sense, that it really involves a psychic problem.

  • wtf man, Gordon killed them for nothing?

    Crazy bastard, hope they put him to sleep....

  • @renno0301 Gordon was taken advantage of by some demonic entity, it's not his fault

  • Wrong, why does everyone think it's about demons?!

    Simon is part of everyones mind, it is a dark, brutal part, which gets awakend when you have a trauma or got bullyied for a long time.

    Gordon was already a little twisted before he came to the asylum and the athmosphere there drove him mad, resulting in killing his wife. And, feeling weak because of that, he felt scared, that someone could tell the police, so he killed everyone. Everyone could be like that. I was almost that far once, I know.

  • @MangaEngel So let's see: Gordon just coincidentally heard Simon's voice, the identical voice that was on the tapes? Really? I'm not saying there's no amibiguity here, but Anderson makes it crystal clear that it wasn't just stress or trauma, though those played a part--Simon was alive in that place, Danvers.

  • @hopkins4545

    The people watching the movie heard the voice of Simon.

    Who ever said it sounded exactly like that for Gordon.

    Also I would be really disapointed, if this really great psychotic movie ends with a "Oh yeah, it was all a demon".

    Just like Mirrors, where you think the whole time, the mirror world is a place of the dead, but no, it must be a giant , alien like monster that made it.

    There are 500 movies with aliens, monsters and such, but maybe 10 with real problems. I like my idea more

  • @MangaEngel That's real good that you like your idea more. Problem is, it wasn't *just* a demon. It was both. Whatever it was (really, Brad Anderson had the exact same voice for both Mary and Gordon and we we're supposed to assume "You can hear me, Gordon" is just for the viewer. Hmmm....bit of a stretch) took advantage of Gordon. Rememer the last quote, yeah? "I live in the weak and the wounded, Doc." See how darn similar Mary and Gordon's stories are?? Let your mind fly.

  • I just think, if Gordons twisted mind would be called Harry and sounded like Robert deNiro, no one would directly know, what exactly is up with the story. Most viewers want to understand the story directly. So it had to be Simon, so the viewers know "Ah, that dark part of mind in Mary is also in Gordon and maybe in everyone of us" and not "What the, and who is Harry? Is he the brother of Simon? And what is Simon talking about?". Something like that is called freedom of art xD

  • @MangaEngel Yes. And Harry and Sally and Jerry were ALSO on the tape, speaking in different voices, Anderson just didn't want us to hear them---also the Beatles album playing backwards, only that wasn't audible either. Reach for the sky, be free. And ridiculously absurd. :)

  • As if the asylum wasn't creepy enough, listening to Simon's voice crawl into your skull is...unnerving to the say the least.

  • for those who have seen the entire movie.... fuck YOOOOUUUUUU!

  • it was a great movie given its place in time...no high-tech special effects...no overt, gratuitous bloodbaths...no leading you by the hand like a child through the formulaic plot...but it still scares and confuses you and forces your imagination to create the really scary parts

  • One of the best horror movies of the past two decades. Actually, it probably is the best.

  • I was one of the tens of thousands of petitioners to try to save Danvers from the wrecking ball. To no avail.

    The movie is great, but the "extras" are greater. Watching the crew film the entire Danvers site, seeing this magnificent structure in its magnificent glory. Danvers is the star of this show. Thank goodness for this movie so we can watch Danvers over and over.

  • As was I :/ true, the extras are a real treat, and the wide angle shots sweeping over the asylum put in perspective how big this place really was :D and he used Danvers completely to his advantage in terms of atmosphere, and it looks superb. although the "A" ward stair case Gordon was in was actually filmed in the B Ward. A good portion of the film was actually filmed in the adjacent Bonner Medical Building as well as the wards :).

  • Gah, I love the ending. SUCH a great film, so underrated. Simon's voice over in the last few seconds is amazing.

  • you are aware Thnks4AllTheFish that ending made the movie.

  • ... Yeah. o_o. That's what I said.

  • great film

  • this movie was fucked up...

  • Simon=Demon...?

  • "I live in weak and wounded"

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