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  • 皆さんが言うほどの誤審とは言いがたいと思います。

    古川先生の面に船津先生の向かい突きで、体(たい)を止めている­ので、

    もし、一本取るならば、おしいと言われてる最初の面を取らないと­、

    途中のはすべてあがらない(というよりあげれない)と思います。

    諸手突きは機会も十分だったので一本でないのは部位をはずしてた­と思われます。

    一本の基準なんて試合によって様々です。八段大会ともなると格段­にあがります。

    審判のレベルが低いとか恐れ多くてとてもいえないし、剣道におけ­る誤審って、

    相い面を見誤るなどの時に使われるべきで、これは誤審ではないと­思います。

    

  • 審判も剣道家なら男らしく誤審を認めるべき。

    

  • 審判をしている先生方は有効打突をもっと勉強した方がいいですね­。差別さえ感じる審判でした。古川先生の攻めの効いた試合運びで­このビデオを見ていると審判のレベルの低さを感じました。

  • 古川先生の完璧な面ですね・・・不可解

  • omg this kiai´s !!!

  • 突きと小手と小手と面が入っているように見えました。

  • 俺、県大会出場を賭けた決勝戦・大将戦でこんな経験があった・・­・・

    試合後、相手校の先生含め何校かの先生が声掛けてくれたけど今で­も悔しさが忘れられない><

  • 古川先生何本も文句なしに決めていたように思えるけれど。これは­両先生とも気まずいでしょうね。試合自体は素晴らしいものの判定­のあり方が不可解で観ていてすごく後味悪いです。

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  • 審判の判断にけちを付けるのはあまり好まないのですが・・・。

    これはちょっと辛いですね・・・。

  • I don't normally question shinpan's call...but this match...something's not right.

  • 完璧な突き

  • これはかなり酷だな。船津先生もこのような状況でやりにくかった­だろうに。古川先生の突きは高校生や大学生のよくする子供だまし­の片手突きと比べ物にならないくらい迫力があるし、これが一本に­ならないとなると剣道界自体が疑われてしまうような気がする。

  • かーぼーの突きは良かったけど、残心をしっかり示さなかったので­、審判が旗を揚げ損ねたなんだな。

    それよりも面と小手の方をそれぞれ1本とすべきだ。

    そにしてもこの審判は修行が足りんな。

    剣道界はもっと審判の育成に励むべきだ。

  • Nice tsuki

  • there were couple of ippons I think

  • 古川先生の突きは入ったろ

  • Thanks, dodaichi

    Why no tsuki?

  • Looked like there were being super tough on Furukawa sensei, who seemed to have hit a few times that I thought could have been ippon. But not even a twitch of the flags....

  • Hands up for dodaichi85!

  • why was Funatsu Shinji touching his own men? I Can't see any strike to his men...?

  • He was protecting his Men with his hand so he could not get hit by Furukawa with a Men strike, which is the most common strike against an disarmed aitei.

  • Oh wow... Domo Arigato Gozeimashita!^^ 1 Year ago I began with Kendo, but we only learn the Katas and don't practice with Bogu. So I didn't know that you can strike a disarmed kendoka...hm thats not respectable in my opinion^^

  • It has not much to do with respect, it is common. The Match you see in the Video is a Shiai between 2 Hachidan, if they are doing something you can be rest assured that it is okay to be done in Shiai.

    You could argue about doing this in Ji-Geiko but it is normal in Shiai to get hit when loosing the Shinai.

  • Again, thank you for the enlightenment, sir!

  • Argue about doing it in Ji-Geiko?

    Why??? I do a lot of maki-waza at Ji-Geiko, almost followed by hiki men... why that would be a problem?

  • Sucessfully disarm an older Sensei during a Mohan-Geiko and look at the way the people who observed you are looking at you ;)

    Doin it one time in Ji-Geiko, no thing. Doing it 2 times in the same Ji-Geiko -if the guy you disarms is very polite he will think "Oh yes i should grip my Shinai better" if he´s not polite, he wil think:"What an asshole.." Doing it more then 3 times in one and the same Ji-Geiko may make people questioning if you have an intense to destroy the others shinai.

  • So, why do you assume I do it with an older sensei and in a Mohan-Geiko???

    I've made 3 times during a ji-geiko with a kohai, but was to show him that something was wrong with his posture at ji-geiko, and with his grip :) It wasn't even harder. I do sometimes with my sempais, and I have made a few ones with 2 senseis. By "a lot", I didn't mean all the time, and certainly not with everyone. But I do not miss the chance to do it if it shows up! At ji-geiko and shiai, just to be clear!

  • Unfortunly you did not get the point of my comment ;) . What i wrote in the first passage was no assuming what you did in the past, do now or what you are going to do. It was just a hypothetical theory packed in a metaphor wanting to say: "What would be if..?" :)

  • ya it has nothing to do with respect lol. your allowed to hit them also theres the times when people fall down your given like a second to hit them as well. most people dont try too though

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