alnashok - this isn't kata or ken jiritsu do. It is Aiki-ken from Iwama-Ryu Aikido & they are doing a partner form call Kumi-ken. The heavy-set man is the late Morihiro Saito-Sensei of Iwama, Japan.
Cashwell, I would suggest training in spelling also. Or spellcheck at the very least. As for soradaman's comment, it says far more about him than the actual clip. It takes a subtle and practiced eye to appreciate this clip. Masters are at work here people.
What people fail to realize, is that in order to rend a person from shoulder to spine, or further, as can actually be done with a Katana, one needs to commit fully to the attack. It must be done properly. Further, these techniques are actually field-tested. They are not 'theorycraft' they are practical maneuvers actually used in combat.
well thats true for most people but me i train in difrent stiles i love marcial arts ive love it sens i was 3 my goal is to lern all the fighting stiles i can
I'm presuming this is a joke. Movement, footwork, cuts were all flawlessly executed. I really don't see where you see anything remotely sluggish. As for their background... I guess it is a bit revealing that you have not even heard of Morihiro Saito.
Everyone please notice.. when they cut with the sword... the wrist is straight, the motion comes from the shoulders, the power from the hips... not from the elbows like a baseball bat and most katana videos on you tube...
Very interesting video! much better and skilled moves that in many videos i have seen. I practice western styles of sword handling and it was great to see these guys using the points and thrust attacks rather than overusing cuts that i have seen in most videos (as a fencer thrusts just make more sense to me, being able to land a blow from a position furthest away from your attacker)
Just an opinion-> yes, but once you thrust, if it's blocked it leaves you open momentarily, doesn't it? I don't speak from experiance since i haven't had any formal sword training, just sparring with my brothers since age 7...
The katana is curved intentionally for slashing cuts, only one edge of the blade is even sharpened. It is not a primarily piercing weapon. Saying that they overuse slashing cuts is like saying European fencers overuse thrusts.
Alright, you are replying to a 2 year old comment, but no matter. After further research, I would say that these guys are an older form of Japanese swordsmanship. Modern sport kendo is so focused on cuts that they have forgotten that they can thrust, much like modern sport foil forgot that they could cut. I like this video because it illustrates that at one point, the katana was used for both (although not as effective as straight sword would be)
This Sensei is coming from the discipline of Aikido, studying under Ueshiba. Not the same as kendo. What they are doing in this video, is still practiced to this day. Kendo is not freeform, there are only 4 points you are allowed to make a point on, three are slashes(head, side, and wrist), one is a jab to the throat. Honestly it was the rarest of the attacks to deal with, and the only one that was really painful , as it would crank your head back, or slip around the guard and hit your throat.
True dat and true dat to both HaMoOhAhA and AyaKiyoshi. I like how they perform the kata twice, once kind of slow and then faster. I think that proves HaMo's point. Not that sparring isn't important, but kata and waza drills should come first, at least for a while.
hmmm... I just think it looks cool... also the movements are practical... what good is learning something like a matrial art if its not practical... Wonderful vid ^^
Slow training allows you to focus on proper technique and good form without a high risk of injury. Fast training should be used once technique becomes natural. Fast training allows you to focus on timimg and such without worrying about proper technique. If you go straight to fast training, you just get hurt, and technique tends to be messy.
i practice Furanui Kenjutsu, i personally hate forms though the slowness of the motions dont prepare you for a real fight, id rather simply spar. also no offence to the people...but...my style is better for me, its faster and more elegant.
no but no one was talking to you at all. opinions are freely given. not asked for. i am entitled to mine a you are to yours. just laying mine out there. i believe that through sparing you learn better cause of the stress.
My opinion is that your a liar. Furanui Kenjutsu was created and used ONLY by Hitokiri Kawakami Gensai.Kenshin Himura of Rurouni Kenshin was based off Gensai and Furanui, so that makes you just another Kenshin wannabe. Thats my opinion
Personally, I prefer if someone trains me using a solid sword (wood) and attacks with killing intent. It allows your natural defensive measures to kick in, since if it hits you you'll be in worlds of pain. After a few hits, oh...believe me,you start moving and blocking fast.
of course there is no critisism. its good old practice. and also, no one came in saying they could blow both their heads off with a glock or anything else.
I see no critisism in this video, and i know why. Because all you pretenders don't have anything to say, go talk about "respect of the sword" somewhere else, just crap you see on movies
Nice vintage
nhaluta 1 year ago
Nice :P
BlakeNow 1 year ago
Beautiful
Feraydun 2 years ago
Wow... The guy on the right obviously knows what he's doing!
swordoflucifer6 2 years ago
this turned into baseball in japan! hahaha
mssauerm 2 years ago
really impressive.
magnesiogonzalez 2 years ago
is this spontaneous or is it a routine.??
Dannoo007 2 years ago
look at them shifting their body weights. Very subtle.
PrUisOne 3 years ago
the man on the left is using a bit to much of bringing the sword over his head. Not usually the best of moves. Anyway, great vid!
AceVendetta 3 years ago
super
skillzmay 3 years ago
Elegant... very elegant.
bryanbhu 3 years ago
love the old classic stuff
MrsMyagi 3 years ago
Holy crap!!! What a great video. Imagine to meet this guy face to face. This is what I call an art. Thanks for posting
hexseeker 3 years ago 2
oh and i am working on my taijutsu
cashwell 4 years ago
my ant she is a 4 digree black belt and her dad is a 6 digree black belt
cashwell 4 years ago
Very nice video, I almost see me in a past life... I was a samurai :)
xnipoo 4 years ago
you can tell both of them are very skilled and know what they're doing, this is what makes me love samurai swordsmanship so much
logalogrenn 4 years ago 2
great kata, but ken jiritsu do is better
alnashok 4 years ago
alnashok - this isn't kata or ken jiritsu do. It is Aiki-ken from Iwama-Ryu Aikido & they are doing a partner form call Kumi-ken. The heavy-set man is the late Morihiro Saito-Sensei of Iwama, Japan.
OldAikiDog 3 years ago
no kidding! you sure it isn't relevant to Kata?
JunkPileFool 2 years ago
this is amazing, just imagine if this was a real battle, he could of killed the guy like 40 times in 1 minute.
Blackwulf14 4 years ago
Cashwell, I would suggest training in spelling also. Or spellcheck at the very least. As for soradaman's comment, it says far more about him than the actual clip. It takes a subtle and practiced eye to appreciate this clip. Masters are at work here people.
zensitter 4 years ago
What people fail to realize, is that in order to rend a person from shoulder to spine, or further, as can actually be done with a Katana, one needs to commit fully to the attack. It must be done properly. Further, these techniques are actually field-tested. They are not 'theorycraft' they are practical maneuvers actually used in combat.
blacksheepwall79 4 years ago
well thats true for most people but me i train in difrent stiles i love marcial arts ive love it sens i was 3 my goal is to lern all the fighting stiles i can
cashwell 4 years ago
learn to spell....i mean really
lbchulo2 4 years ago
asome i have studyed anuff kenjutsu to fight a samurai not that i would win but i could hold my ground with one for wile any whey
cashwell 4 years ago
the battle would last 5 seconds. Thats the 4 seconds that he wasnt attacking, then the 1 second for you screaming.
mellowmaromi1 4 years ago
Wonderful, you don't see priceless footage like this often. Modern "bushido" is for hollywood. The art is being lost.
gheezer44 4 years ago
Wow, I having been studying Kenjutsu for years, and these guys are SO much better then I am. Look how level his hips are and smooth his foot work is.
ninpo4me 4 years ago
I'm presuming this is a joke. Movement, footwork, cuts were all flawlessly executed. I really don't see where you see anything remotely sluggish. As for their background... I guess it is a bit revealing that you have not even heard of Morihiro Saito.
Gilmaris 5 years ago
wow that was gay. I dont know there backrounds but they musnt be very skilled. slugish movement and horrible foorwork. How old is that clip?
soradaman 5 years ago
Everyone please notice.. when they cut with the sword... the wrist is straight, the motion comes from the shoulders, the power from the hips... not from the elbows like a baseball bat and most katana videos on you tube...
fastnlight83 5 years ago
Very interesting video! much better and skilled moves that in many videos i have seen. I practice western styles of sword handling and it was great to see these guys using the points and thrust attacks rather than overusing cuts that i have seen in most videos (as a fencer thrusts just make more sense to me, being able to land a blow from a position furthest away from your attacker)
Great video!
vectorb 5 years ago
Just an opinion-> yes, but once you thrust, if it's blocked it leaves you open momentarily, doesn't it? I don't speak from experiance since i haven't had any formal sword training, just sparring with my brothers since age 7...
Taliensin 5 years ago
The katana is curved intentionally for slashing cuts, only one edge of the blade is even sharpened. It is not a primarily piercing weapon. Saying that they overuse slashing cuts is like saying European fencers overuse thrusts.
unapparatus 2 years ago 4
Alright, you are replying to a 2 year old comment, but no matter. After further research, I would say that these guys are an older form of Japanese swordsmanship. Modern sport kendo is so focused on cuts that they have forgotten that they can thrust, much like modern sport foil forgot that they could cut. I like this video because it illustrates that at one point, the katana was used for both (although not as effective as straight sword would be)
vectorb 2 years ago
This Sensei is coming from the discipline of Aikido, studying under Ueshiba. Not the same as kendo. What they are doing in this video, is still practiced to this day. Kendo is not freeform, there are only 4 points you are allowed to make a point on, three are slashes(head, side, and wrist), one is a jab to the throat. Honestly it was the rarest of the attacks to deal with, and the only one that was really painful , as it would crank your head back, or slip around the guard and hit your throat.
unapparatus 2 years ago
Turning martial arts into a sport...
But.. why!?
Feraydun 2 years ago
This is far from being a stupid comment.
Feraydun 2 years ago
True dat and true dat to both HaMoOhAhA and AyaKiyoshi. I like how they perform the kata twice, once kind of slow and then faster. I think that proves HaMo's point. Not that sparring isn't important, but kata and waza drills should come first, at least for a while.
TitoZ14 5 years ago
hmmm... I just think it looks cool... also the movements are practical... what good is learning something like a matrial art if its not practical... Wonderful vid ^^
KanashiiKenshin 5 years ago
Slow training allows you to focus on proper technique and good form without a high risk of injury. Fast training should be used once technique becomes natural. Fast training allows you to focus on timimg and such without worrying about proper technique. If you go straight to fast training, you just get hurt, and technique tends to be messy.
HaMoOhAhA 5 years ago
i practice Furanui Kenjutsu, i personally hate forms though the slowness of the motions dont prepare you for a real fight, id rather simply spar. also no offence to the people...but...my style is better for me, its faster and more elegant.
fluffydeath 5 years ago
That's cool, but I don't think anyone was talking about you.
Lambert06Pasquale06 5 years ago
no but no one was talking to you at all. opinions are freely given. not asked for. i am entitled to mine a you are to yours. just laying mine out there. i believe that through sparing you learn better cause of the stress.
fluffydeath 5 years ago
My opinion is that your a liar. Furanui Kenjutsu was created and used ONLY by Hitokiri Kawakami Gensai.Kenshin Himura of Rurouni Kenshin was based off Gensai and Furanui, so that makes you just another Kenshin wannabe. Thats my opinion
AyaKiyoshi 5 years ago
Cool, cool I like this style
percast 5 years ago
thanks for your comments, I try to teach my students slow methods first then build up with more momentum
ajxp 5 years ago
well even if fighting real deals practice the instinc of portection more than Katas, I can bet the guy can beat you just because he katas around
no offense, I say that because he's a sensei
irregularzero 5 years ago
Personally, I prefer if someone trains me using a solid sword (wood) and attacks with killing intent. It allows your natural defensive measures to kick in, since if it hits you you'll be in worlds of pain. After a few hits, oh...believe me,you start moving and blocking fast.
Elprede 5 years ago
Yea, but wouldn't sparring with a live partner also develop muscle memory AND realism?
ChineseBoxer 5 years ago
Good, Old fashioned training! For all that do not understand the practical application of Kata, it is for muscle memory, and this is a prime example!
shintawolfie 5 years ago
of course there is no critisism. its good old practice. and also, no one came in saying they could blow both their heads off with a glock or anything else.
swordsman277369 5 years ago
what style is this? Is this a kobudo school?
HaMoOhAhA 5 years ago
No sure, but it is well orchestrated bewtween both
ajxp 5 years ago
Aikikai from Hombo Dojo, Japan
ajxp 5 years ago
iwama ryu
ukyotachibana 5 years ago
I see no critisism in this video, and i know why. Because all you pretenders don't have anything to say, go talk about "respect of the sword" somewhere else, just crap you see on movies
tommilo11 5 years ago