Love the work you are doing! Horses are not dogs and you really can't do pure clicker training with them because of their size and risk associated with that. You use really mild pressure, it's a whisper. Totally appropriate with horses as we use pressure from legs when we ride, and that is not punishing or force, it's a cue they have been trained to recognize and respond to. Keep up the good work, I love watching a gentle man teaching a horse new behaviors.
I am so happy to see a video with a male clicker trainer. The women around me give me a hard enough time about my clicker training craziness. The men are just plain bemused. Are there more of him doing the training?
Do you actually use a traditional box clicker to train these behaviors? Or do you just use it in the beginning. I'm just curious b/c I don't hear anything in this video.
Jeez guys, give him a brake. All he has to do is feed the treats on the ground to keep her from being mouthy, trust me I have experienced it. He is gentle, but firm and he knows how to handle a horse.Let's see you trying this with a filly!
Well, we aren't really interested in showing... but even so the point of clicker training is to FADE OUT THE TREATS (and clicks) once the behavior is strong and dependable. The click and treat process is for teaching but then it's important to fade it out quickly.
@LilyoffMyspace You're suposed to give them attention, not treats, using treats is a bad reward. A horses reward should always be loving, not treats. Treats cause bad habbits.
Candy only makes horses annoying if you reward them for being annoying!
this may e the answer to my question, how to you kee them from being pigs. they stand so nicely and only turn for the treat when you wnat them to have one. i'd expect a nose in my pockets.
the answer is dont reinforce the nose in the pocket behavior.
what if i've alreday carrot and treat spoiled my yearling?
There is a difference in working to awoid something or to work to achieve something! I know with oneof those reasons I prefer my animals to work for...
I sit here with a smile and look at Your gentle respectful way to train Your horse. Keep up the nice work!
You are doing a very good job of training Tempo. :D Both clicker training and pressure training are good ways to train horses. I purfer pressure training, and making it uncomfortable to do the wrong thing. Just because i dont have many treats, or a clicker. But great job!
The goal of clicker training is that once a behavior is learned and consistent, you fade the treats out. Our horses don't behave differently when we don't have treats with us because they've learned that acting like "partners" is a good thing.
I wonder what if you somewhere where you don't have treats for the horse wont the horse decide well if I dont get a treat I wont do nothin'. That will be bad in any situation .. what if you leave your clicker at home on acident. Are you just out? Too bad so sad? I like using what you have all the time... as rewards ' good girl, boy' and petting and stuff. I am realy new to this but I think it would be better using something you have with you all the time .
Yes, of course we use some pressure. It is unrealistic to expect humans and horses to co-exist and do things like riding, farrier work, tying, veterinary care, etc. without teaching your horse to give to pressure. We use all four quadrants of Operant Conditioning (plus a fifth - extinction) in our training. But, our goal is to use positive reinforcement whenever possible. Sometimes we teach a behavior/idea initially using light pressure and then cultivate the behavior using CT.
True clicker training of horses is very difficult and dangerous because we cannot wait for a horse to offer a behavior we want and risk miscommunication and accidents in the meantime. Please admit that you are still using a pressure system and that someone shouldn't expect to fully train a horse with a clicker.
Unfortunately you're not truly clicker training. Using pressure at all is not positive reinforcement, which is what clicker training is. In order to get her to trot you are running and saying "trot" and wiggling the end of the rope - that isn't asking, that's pressure.
The release of pressure (a negative stimulus) in response to a behavior is the basis of negative reinforcement. The addition of a reward (treat, scratch, toy, etc.) in response to a behavior is positive reinforcement. Both are effective training tools, but they are quite different and illicit different results. Candy only makes horses annoying if you reward them for being annoying!
@Ksturg8929 I have to disagree with Maanlingxx...I can't imagine not giving my horses treats. My horses do not push me around to get treats because they have been taught to be respectful. I am really impressed with your kind, relaxed approach coupled with positive reinforcement.
I love this. I love clicker training my horses, but it gets hard when its not 'approved' of by others at my barn or even my friends. I always get "well they wouldn't do that in nature" and I'm always "well they don't get on eachother's back either". I find clicker training so much more rewarding. My horse tries all the harder. And its great when he is afraid of something cuz I play the touch game, and his hole mind set changes "oh, we're playing that game!" and he forgets about it.
Thank you for posting your training videos for the public. I also clicker train, but I specialize in dogs. It is interesting to see the same method used on a much larger animal with the same results. What do you use for training treats?
A really good example of hand and body cues for different reactions from the horse. Also, good to show comparisons with other training techniques and how they differ.
Love the work you are doing! Horses are not dogs and you really can't do pure clicker training with them because of their size and risk associated with that. You use really mild pressure, it's a whisper. Totally appropriate with horses as we use pressure from legs when we ride, and that is not punishing or force, it's a cue they have been trained to recognize and respond to. Keep up the good work, I love watching a gentle man teaching a horse new behaviors.
lindog51 2 months ago
I am so happy to see a video with a male clicker trainer. The women around me give me a hard enough time about my clicker training craziness. The men are just plain bemused. Are there more of him doing the training?
girlofgodscountry 6 months ago
I enjoyed this, thanks for posting it.
ROCKSLIDZ 8 months ago
That horse is going to very nice to handle when she is older. I plan to do this when I get a horse, thank you for posting the video:)
SkyCabin6 1 year ago
nicely done
countrygirl999999 1 year ago
Gonna be a great horse!
JumpingSneak3 1 year ago
Good job.. Keep up the good work..
I just enjoyed wathing you to ..
I have been clicker traing with 1 of my mares..
And have thought of starting with my filly.
But I was'nt sure if it was to early..
But i see it is'nt .. It's just getting started :D
Stine - From Denmark ;)
StineErnlund 1 year ago
Very nice. She is lovely and calm and attentive.
rozwatkins1 1 year ago
Do you actually use a traditional box clicker to train these behaviors? Or do you just use it in the beginning. I'm just curious b/c I don't hear anything in this video.
clickandtreatyourpet 2 years ago
Jeez guys, give him a brake. All he has to do is feed the treats on the ground to keep her from being mouthy, trust me I have experienced it. He is gentle, but firm and he knows how to handle a horse.Let's see you trying this with a filly!
TuffXRider 2 years ago
And how did you get her where she wouldn't jerk the rope out of your hand and run off while your lunging her, or working her in a circle?
Equestrian08 2 years ago
Where can you find a clicker at?
Equestrian08 2 years ago
What happens when you start showing at halter and you can't give them a treat?
LilyoffMyspace 2 years ago
Well, we aren't really interested in showing... but even so the point of clicker training is to FADE OUT THE TREATS (and clicks) once the behavior is strong and dependable. The click and treat process is for teaching but then it's important to fade it out quickly.
Ksturg8929 2 years ago
@LilyoffMyspace You're suposed to give them attention, not treats, using treats is a bad reward. A horses reward should always be loving, not treats. Treats cause bad habbits.
undetectable2009 10 months ago
Candy only makes horses annoying if you reward them for being annoying!
this may e the answer to my question, how to you kee them from being pigs. they stand so nicely and only turn for the treat when you wnat them to have one. i'd expect a nose in my pockets.
the answer is dont reinforce the nose in the pocket behavior.
what if i've alreday carrot and treat spoiled my yearling?
MJTisor 2 years ago
There is a difference in working to awoid something or to work to achieve something! I know with oneof those reasons I prefer my animals to work for...
I sit here with a smile and look at Your gentle respectful way to train Your horse. Keep up the nice work!
Greetings from Jenny in Sweden
Tomodatci 2 years ago
You are doing a very good job of training Tempo. :D Both clicker training and pressure training are good ways to train horses. I purfer pressure training, and making it uncomfortable to do the wrong thing. Just because i dont have many treats, or a clicker. But great job!
cswake1 2 years ago
The goal of clicker training is that once a behavior is learned and consistent, you fade the treats out. Our horses don't behave differently when we don't have treats with us because they've learned that acting like "partners" is a good thing.
Ksturg8929 2 years ago 2
I wonder what if you somewhere where you don't have treats for the horse wont the horse decide well if I dont get a treat I wont do nothin'. That will be bad in any situation .. what if you leave your clicker at home on acident. Are you just out? Too bad so sad? I like using what you have all the time... as rewards ' good girl, boy' and petting and stuff. I am realy new to this but I think it would be better using something you have with you all the time .
AcjjCatwoman 2 years ago
Yes, of course we use some pressure. It is unrealistic to expect humans and horses to co-exist and do things like riding, farrier work, tying, veterinary care, etc. without teaching your horse to give to pressure. We use all four quadrants of Operant Conditioning (plus a fifth - extinction) in our training. But, our goal is to use positive reinforcement whenever possible. Sometimes we teach a behavior/idea initially using light pressure and then cultivate the behavior using CT.
Ksturg8929 2 years ago
True clicker training of horses is very difficult and dangerous because we cannot wait for a horse to offer a behavior we want and risk miscommunication and accidents in the meantime. Please admit that you are still using a pressure system and that someone shouldn't expect to fully train a horse with a clicker.
kiwikim79 2 years ago
Unfortunately you're not truly clicker training. Using pressure at all is not positive reinforcement, which is what clicker training is. In order to get her to trot you are running and saying "trot" and wiggling the end of the rope - that isn't asking, that's pressure.
kiwikim79 2 years ago
You are correct that our method is not pure clicker training. We actually use all four quadrants of operant conditioning.
Ksturg8929 2 years ago
Looks great, but isnt that special. Parelly (and many others) use increasing pressure, ideed. There reward is to relax, to let the pressure go away.
In this case the reward is candy.
I like the idea of relaxing more than to give candy. In the end candy makes all horses annoying.
Maanlingxx 2 years ago
The release of pressure (a negative stimulus) in response to a behavior is the basis of negative reinforcement. The addition of a reward (treat, scratch, toy, etc.) in response to a behavior is positive reinforcement. Both are effective training tools, but they are quite different and illicit different results. Candy only makes horses annoying if you reward them for being annoying!
Ksturg8929 2 years ago 2
@Ksturg8929 I have to disagree with Maanlingxx...I can't imagine not giving my horses treats. My horses do not push me around to get treats because they have been taught to be respectful. I am really impressed with your kind, relaxed approach coupled with positive reinforcement.
pwcarr 7 months ago
I love this. I love clicker training my horses, but it gets hard when its not 'approved' of by others at my barn or even my friends. I always get "well they wouldn't do that in nature" and I'm always "well they don't get on eachother's back either". I find clicker training so much more rewarding. My horse tries all the harder. And its great when he is afraid of something cuz I play the touch game, and his hole mind set changes "oh, we're playing that game!" and he forgets about it.
Colesak 3 years ago
Thank you for posting your training videos for the public. I also clicker train, but I specialize in dogs. It is interesting to see the same method used on a much larger animal with the same results. What do you use for training treats?
PortraitofStrange 3 years ago
very informative as usual! keep up the great vids!
wolfydan121 3 years ago
A really good example of hand and body cues for different reactions from the horse. Also, good to show comparisons with other training techniques and how they differ.
EQEnlighten 3 years ago 2
I love watching these videos, and watchint Tempo grow up, thank you so much for them. They are so informative!
britnieann 3 years ago
i have a 10 month old filly any advice?
blahlikewhoa 3 years ago