Santa Clara Vanguard Drumline 2011 in the lot

[garretthegrreatt]

why wasn't i here!

this was on my birthday. D:

[JonLeal]

@RCRhythm Categorization and hierarchical organization within categories are not the same ball of wax. Context also matters more than you might think. I didn't use that term in response to a Fundamentalist documentary, did I?

There is no outside of ideology.

I like the rhetoric, though!

[Bluecoatsdrummer2012]

@JonLeal English Por Favor?

[RCRhythm]

If I ever see drums this physically attractive again, I will punch them in the face.

[kinkbikes4life1]

Underrated corps:

Vanguard

Phantom Regiment

Madison Scouts

Blue Knights

[altolax123]

@kinkbikes4life1 carolina crown too

[aolyahoo]

@kinkbikes4life1 Overrated corps: Colts Teal Sound Carolina Crown Blue Stars The Academy Blue Devils Mandarins Spirit Of Atlanta Pioneer Bluecoats The Cadets Jersey Surf Crossmen Pacific Crest The Cavaliers Glassmen Troopers Boston Crusaders I think your perspective is EXACTLY spot on with reality

[kinkbikes4life1]

@aolyahoo Thanks man.

[thedrumster1990]

i normally dont read posts on videos cause quite frankly, most of you dont really know what you're talking about. this stuff is quality, and if you dont like paul's writing or the style of play, dont watch and most of all, dont comment. those who can appreciate will, if you dont, frankly, noone cares no matter how "qualified" you think you are to speak on the subject. enjoy the music, and the performance or dont listen!

[PascoDL6]

@thedrumster1990 Agreed!



[aolyahoo]

@thedrumster1990

but the stick heights weren't even. You just gotta use your eyes. No wonder these guys didn't win, they can't even get basic stuff like their 6's and 9's together. I play snare for my high school and these guys are totally lame.

[kinkbikes4life1]

Matt Penland is a BOSS!!!

[jackhammer10101]

NICE !!! NICE sixteenth notes !!!

[pugs321]

WHY SO CLEANNNNN??

[Fun4est]

@pugs321 Because it's phantom in red and green! Haha

[jackhammer10101]

@Fun4est

Nah dude...Its Santa Clara Regiment, man !

[Fun4est]

@jackhammer10101 Ah man you're right!

[TheDrummerguy33]

@mikers3000 I didn't mean it like that. They have good players...and not everyone in ALL world class corps are great.

The Blue Devils have great players but I believe they are highly overrated. SCV got shafted this year...and everyone that say BD are the best ones out there aren't right. I The Cavaliers, SCV, and Crown are much better and have harder shows.

The Blue Devils shows are hardly shows in my opinion. Theres no music in it. The show is just built to win. Nothing else. I did not find

[nbwolda]

so sick



[Shama212]

HOW THE HECK SCV PEARLS SOUND WAY BETTER THAN BLUE DEVILS PEARLS SMH!!!

[TheDrummerguy33]

@Shama212

cuz the devil dont have Paul Rennick or amazing players=p

[mikers3000]

@TheDrummerguy33 you can't say the Blue Devils have amazing players. I'm not a big Devils fan, but to say that ANY percussionist from any of the World Class Drum Crops are not amazing players is a huge insult.

[Shama212]

@TheDrummerguy33 wow thats how you really feel about the devils interesting

[jeo805]

0:56 I love how the guy on our left has his sticks out and hops them forward when the other snares bring em out. Not hating, I just think its cool.

[TheDrummerguy33]

@jeo805 If you notice Dan, Brandon, Jon, and Cheese do the stick move.

Peter, Alex, and Dan keep their sticks out.

This may have been their visual or maybe just a mess up.

Not saying anything against you though. Just pointing that out.

I marched there that is why i know their names.

[TheAnt17r]

So glad they finally got rid of the stupid snare tilt! Couldn't stand it since the first year they did it ('97 or '98 I think). And shame on all those other groups throughout the country who thought it was cool and copied it!

[Picperfectpercussion]

It's not the same with no tilt

[JiMnEEzY1]

I loved this show in the begining...being a BD, and BK alumni, its hard to say..but, this show peeked way to early...and wasn't that clean at finals.....listen to a judges tape....! It's always clean in the lot...now......MOVE and play that way.

[Rotation364]

waaayyyyyy too clean

[SuperPerfect5th]

I would like to see this line play the SCV Warm-Ups from the 2006 season. This is crazy clean.



[ChuckaXr]

Good writing but very easy

[itssjustmichael23]

Man's Paul's writing is soooo amazingly awesome

[TheClarkDrummer702]

0:57 guy is checking if this is actually real life

[RCKNRLL4THESOUL]

@TheClarkDrummer702 LMAO

[jsk8drummer]

@TheClarkDrummer702 LMFAO

[ChuckaXr]

boring shit man

[yeaBASS09]

i agree 100% with you Jon.

[mikers3000]

Guy at 0:57 is like "damn I just came for those clean beats"

[damayer92]

GODDAMN Rennick's writing makes my panties drop

[BelligerentTurtle]

I thought they marched 5 tenors this year? Why are there only 3?

[HHSbass4]

@BelligerentTurtle Think about it for a second...It's pretty obvious that the guy filming just didn't pan to the left far enough to get all 5 tenors in the shot.

[BelligerentTurtle]

@HHSbass4 I thought about that, but then matt penland (center) would be the farthest left tenor you could see.

[HHSbass4]

@BelligerentTurtle Maybe you're right, they definitely did have five though. There are other videos that show five quads.

[dfisk79]

I don't like comparing this line to that line and all that stuff. I just enjoy hearing different sound and clean music. Great stuff guys!

[bmrdrummer97]

the blond kid with the fohawk the snare three from the right followed rennick too and maybe the center snare i cant tell

[bmrdrummer97]

the guy to the right of the center snare did

[bmrdrummer97]

they really sound just like old regiment i miss the high cranked snares and tilted drums they are great but phantom needs rennick too much change

[pugs321]

is this a university? santa clara?

[gearhart123]

@pugs321 Drum Corps International. Independent youth arts organization of professional musicians and performers.

[pugs321]

@gearhart123 Oh, do you have to tryout?

[chutdigadut]

@pugs321 lol this is arguably one of the best drumlines in the entire world..... so yeah. You gotta audition.

[pugs321]

@chutdigadut oh its a group. just for funn

[chutdigadut]

@pugs321 yep. brutal character building type fun

[HuskyPride2132]

did anyone from SCV 2010 stay for SCV 2011? just curious

[drumrdude707]

@HuskyPride2132 Yeah, a few. 1 tenor, 1 bass, 3 cymbals. 2 of the snares are from Vanguard Cadets

[HuskyPride2132]

@drumrdude707 Nice, must've been a big change haha

[druckman]

We can hear the drums but SHOW the cymbals. Soo sick!!

[Broshockaa]

Those are such sweet looking drums!

[CincoSnare76]

Why are people saying they sound like Phantom Regiment? Ever thought that maybe that's just how Paul Rennick writes? Quit the labeling and enjoy the clean beats.

[JDrummer403]

@CincoSnare76 Dont forget tuning!

[jackhammer10101]

@CincoSnare76

I am trying to enjoy it, really, but after the first 30 seconds, there is just sixteenth notes.

[CincoSnare76]

@jackhammer10101 You must not have a good interpretation of music then...

[jackhammer10101]

@CincoSnare76

careful, my friend...do want to discuss your assertion about me? I am HEAVILY credentialed...you never know what old DCI vets are on here...I would be happy to explain about my expertise involving DCI, if you want...keep in mind the Great Glen Crosby and I had a nice laugh about the "fast sixteenth and exaggerated stick heights used in modern DCI, a few years ago...so its not just me ...

--Jack VK '91,'92 (The Hardimon AND Float years)

[CincoSnare76]

@jackhammer10101 To each their own. Perhaps I just really enjoy Rennick's writing.

[jackhammer10101]

@CincoSnare76

I understand...let me add something though...look up "1994 Cadets drumline" by nmolena

and look up "1992 SCV FINALS parking lot" (not early on...they were too dirty early on)

early '90s and 80's drumlines totally annihilate modern drumlines...see for yourself

[aolyahoo]

@CincoSnare76

Yea! I guess your right, but I think this book sounds exactly like Phantom --> /watch?v=eDXVgqmaYJk

[mrpainless45]

hey guys look to the right of center... it's RLChieftonTHeONe!!!!!!!111!!!!­!1!!111ONe

[drmcbeats]

This huge Phantom Regiment/Santa Clara Vanguard comparison has gotten a little out of hand quite frankly. Keep in mind 7 seasons from now it's going to be "___ corps is just SCV in different uniforms."

[artifexaeternus]

Are there any veterans from last year left on the line, or did Rennick want to start fresh? Anybody know?

[SpokaneThunder117]

@artifexaeternus like from 2010 SCV? Yea i'm pretty sure vets still got on the line, if they could bring the chops to the auditions

[HoLyCr4PIE]

@artifexaeternus one bass and one tenor the rest were new or from phantom

[MrDrummerzz]

the roll at 2:20 is just so legit. I keep rewinding it just to hear it.

[ForceRagePower]

I really like what phantom did this year! Oh this is scv

[JonLeal]

@ForceRagePower

Perhaps it would have been better had we sounded like Atlanta A&T?

The haphazard comparison of Phantom Regiment and S.C. Vanguard drumlines is a mind-virus, and it's offensive to those of us that worked hard to sound good as members of both of those groups.

[ForceRagePower]

@JonLeal dude chill i was just joking

[drewdrummer7]

@JonLeal how is that offensive that you guys sound like phantom did when paul rennick was there?

[RCRhythm]

@JonLeal Jesus worship is a mind-virus.

Racism is a mind virus.

Comparing Paul Rennick's various drumlines is far, far more important.

[optsyn]

3:05 to 3:09 is so fresh. talk about the use of space...even if it's microspace...to achieve effect. dig it

[Macade76]

brass might be dropping the ball...but I think battery has never lost any of their caliber. Pure class and talent, and soooo clean

[PhantomDrums917]

why are their shirts orange?

[HuskyPride2132]

@PhantomDrums917 they're red in person. It's probably the camera

[udflyer1991]

2:12 - 2:17 is awesome.

[kandorei101]

Jonathan Leal is so short compared to the rest of them...but he makes up for it in sheer Old Spice Awesomeness

[mybeerisalwayscold]

stand corrected on basses.  high school is on #5 for 2011 SCV...was #4 for 2010 PR.

[Gazeboism]

2010*** sorry

[Gazeboism]

i dont understand how that snare is in the center when the two to his left and right were closer to center at phantom 2011.

[jsk8drummer]

@Gazeboism most likely an attitude or leadership thing or he just got incredibly good in between seasons

[mybeerisalwayscold]

4 snares, 1 tenor, 1 bass, at least 4 pit from 2010 PR.



[fak50]

@mybeerisalwayscold 2 basses. bass 1 and bass 5 were on 2010 PR

[demarubadub]

i like their diddle tubs

[Richey13]

0:53 I'm glad that 3 of 9 got that visual... HAHAHA

[chutdigadut]

@Richey13 lol 4 out of 9 actually. Dude on the far right also got it

[stephenl3434]

I believe there was 4 snares that followed. All or almost all of the vets from last year got cut. Rennick pulled together a whole new SCV.

[KirKir21]

When I saw them for the premier, all I could think was 'That's definitely Rennick's line'. <3

[derek1134]

How many PR followed Rennick? That middle tenor...anybody else?

[CincoSnare76]

@derek1134 Two or three snares at least. One bass.

[MrGhfhdhshah]

@derek1134 couple snares and a bass. Paul Rennick fucking amazing drumline conductor

[newfolksong]

RENNICK!!

[WelcomeBunnie]

Did anyone here a single tick?

[MadCoSnareLine]

@WelcomeBunnie Honestly, yes. But, I get what you are saying. This is stupid ridiculous. This is amazing even for a drum line that has played together for years (which this one hasn't).

[chutdigadut]

@WelcomeBunnie lol not really

[HostilityTv]

lol, i remember the glassmen came to my highschool to practice there, it was sweet watching them, i only wish that they would've interacted a bit with my high school drumline lol. we were practicing in the basketball court outside and they were in a different spot, wouldve been nice if they came up to us and watched our show and then probably learned it within 15 minutes and played it better than us. would be cool if these lines would interact with the high schools and colleges.

[MadCoSnareLine]

@HostilityTv Not to sound rude, but drum corps really don't have time. It's not that they don't want to. When we went to a high school that had a band camp or something and had a lot of kids, we would have loved to have watched or talked with those guys. The fact was, we were violently trying to beat other corps in competition. We were always either eating, sleeping, or rehearsing.

[HostilityTv]

@MadCoSnareLine what if that certain drumline won scholastic world last year?

[mikers3000]

@HostilityTv that doesn't really matter, they still wouldn't have had the time

[MadCoSnareLine]

@HostilityTv Again, I know they would love to interact, they seriously just don't have time.

[SasquatchGroove]

@HostilityTv i feel ya. pacific crest came to mine 2 years in a row. it would have been a blast to have them watch my line. but i understand theyre busy.

[tfeersty]

While I know that Rennick is a Dynasty artist these days, it sure is nice to see a Rennick line playing Pearl again.

[jesseenriquez]

@tfeersty they go to nasty next year

[woothatdrums]

@jesseenriquez Are they really switching to dynasty next year?

[InfernalPenguin]

@tfeersty phanthom used pearl and he just left them.

[beehhussey]

C'mon boys. The punch!!! Snares are raw. Brandon, I won't forget!