Uck espouse the "free market" while fighting to keep massive subsidies, loopholes and corporate tax breaks in place. Doesn't this dichotomy strike anyone as hypocritical? Or has the term "free market" lost all meaning and relativity amidst the New Corporatism usurping our government?
@genYprogressive83 Every country that allows the rich to opt out of public services such as infrastructure, education and healthcare ends up in the toilet because that's how u make a country competitive. Eisenhower created NASA and built the Interstate HWY system on 91% top marginal tax rate. GM and Ford can't compete against German & and Japanese products because these competitors have their workers on a NATIONAL healthcare system. NATIONAL! that's why it's cheaper: it's the biggest risk pool!
You're a fusty old blowhard who doesn't understand the basics of supply-demand. The problem with the economy is firstly a problem concerned with excessive sucklings who've corrupted the parameters of wants vs. needs. And the reason they are able to turn the USA into a nanny state is because of the wooing from politically expedient Left-Wingers who are selling their souls to the devil in exchange for votes.
Get it right Junior, next week I'll educate you about Union wages.
@WaitInLineIllegals "Supply-side economics" means you are holding your thumb on the scale of free markets and pushing it down on 1 side. It's a sneak attack on free market capitalism more insidious than communism. In fact the USA is growing its debt faster than its GDP every year since Reagan's supply side tax cuts of 1981. That's because GDP growth is 70% consumer demand: if you cut taxes on the rich u allow them to make money by simply sitting on their investment accounts
@WaitInLineIllegals What financial deregulation and taxcuts did the last 30 years is tocreate an incentive for the rich to take money out of the future earnings of their workers and put it either offshore or on wall street in their personal investment accounts. that was not allowed in the USA for 50 years. In fact the last time that was allowed, the USA was not the superpower that it is today and it had no middle class to speak of. Unions and regulation built the USA!
@WaitInLineIllegals The difference between you and I is that I know the numbers and you know the propaganda talking points. Reaganomics didn't work in 1981with 32% debt to GDP ratio and less than $1 trillion national debt , it doesn't work today with 95% and $15 trillion and it sure won't work under the cheap racket of some snot-nosed elite carpet beggar like Ryan.
You need to man-up and admit to being a politically biased fanatic. You might be able to impress vulnerable left-wing mice into marching to the beat of your deceitful tunes, but you cannot influence rational persons into believing your yellow-journalism. Keep reciting all this imperial fluff, it amounts to nothing more than examples of your hate-mongering fodder. You'll not be taken seriously until you demonstrate a capacity to address the basics instead of smoke & mirrors.
@WaitInLineIllegals LOL! "biased fanatic", "left-wing mice"?! What are you, 12?! All my numbers are coming form the budget of the USA, thanks for playing! Let me know when you find a year in which a republican president grew the economy faster than the debt since 1981! that includes the years when Ryan supported Medicare Part D under W!
BTW, you are so dim, you can't even see that you are inflicting brand damage on conservatives by simply posting your retarded opinions!
You are a superfluous blowhard who avoids academic honesty by use of empirical irrelevance & rhetorical misdirection, and who suffers from severe cognitive dissonance when to disparage other people. America's financial woes are the direct result of Dem's orgy of suckling entitlements necessary to secure voting blocs in hopes of stealing elections. Because you are too dumb to understand macroscopic economics, you are to be found at the far left on the Bell Curve Of Common Sense.
@WaitInLineIllegals "superfluous blowhard" "academic honesty" "macroscopic economics"?! LOL! Is that like "microscopic accounting"?! I don't even know WTF is that you are trying to say all I can see is that you seem to be a sore loser.
Of course that's "all you can see." Thus, by your own admission even the most general of discussion points is way above your pay grade. I'm not sure if you'd be better described by your ignorant buffoonery or by your incredulous dishonesty. In the end it really doesn't matter because you amount to nothing more than a gaseous windbag full of yellow journalism and skewed hyperbole.
@WaitInLineIllegals Clearly the more you speak the more you embarrass yourself. I am still waiting for an answer about the 30 year record of failure of reaganomics, but since you haven't even attempted to answer my point about the national debt to GDP ratio I assume it's above your paygrade and you conceded defeat, as for your incoherent rambling you present as an "argument" it's the usual stupid ass frat boy attitude that tells the world how dumb your party membership is.
Listen up Junior, I'm starting to tire of your diversionary antics. You are the most dishonest & incredulous fat-mouth buffoon on YouTube. It's one thing to rhetorically ramble the way you do, but it's another thing to speak with relevance & validity. Your dialectical forte amounts to bobbing & weaving with smoke & mirrors. Let me simplify things for you Sonny, the prevailing economical problem continues to be the Dems and their grandiose tactics of political expediency.
@WaitInLineIllegals Your tone is petulant, arrogant and you seem to project your own foul attitude on others. I have no problem voting for a republican like Eisenhower. In fact every year Ike was in office the USA grew its economy much faster than its debt, top taxrates were 91%, 35% of the private workforce was union and the USA was building industries. Under Reagan the opposite: cut taxes to 30% & every year the debt grew faster than the GDP & shipped industries overseas
I know better than to let a phony and a trickster lead a conversation. No action is an action, thus your refusal to discount how the Dems have corrupted the causal dynamics of supply & demand vis-à-vis people & resources amounts to your admission of its truthfulness. What you do when academically trumped is revert to defamation & slander against millions of Americans who prefer conservative values & politics. Listen Junior, this attitude of yours is par to that of a racist's.
@WaitInLineIllegals I see the only value you seem to prefer is being ignorant and childish. So what's the national debt of the USA?! Of that what percent was created before 1981 and what percent after?! You seem to have no interest in your country "junior" all you want is to hate on your own countrymen depending on stupid party affiliations and loyalties. sort of like the nazis and the commies in old europe: it's all about parroting a party line for your type.
Listen Junior, when it comes to understanding economics you need to learn to wade before you swim. Anyone can frolic in the waters of irrelevant statistics, but if you don’t have a foundational understanding of supply & demand equilibrium, than you’re an incredulous & lost soul in the world of academia. The economy will continue to be strained as long the Loony-Left keeps selling their souls for political expediency and continue having their lustful tax & spend orgies.
@WaitInLineIllegals It's ironic that the balance between supply and demand is EXACTLY what's being destroyed by "supply side economics" since the 80s?! How can you even pretend to understand the problem when you can't seem to grasp the basic fact that constantly cutting taxes on the supply side created the economic imbalance which resulted in $14 of the $15 trillion debt the last 30 years?! Not to mention the $40 trillion private sect debt! Social Sec exists since 1935!!
Get real Junior, your deflections & reconfigurations will not work on me. We both know it's the Liberals who are primarily responsible for the upward changes on the demand curve and the downward changes on the supply curve as a result of increased taxation & excessive population growth. For the American economy to enjoy a prospering balance sheet it will need to effectuate population reduction, immigration control, reduced taxation, and stoppage of entitlement suckling.
@WaitInLineIllegals LOL! what "upward changes in the demand curve"?! Every economist agrees that the main reason the economy can't recover is because companies have no customers: there is weak consumer demand. Last I checked most people are not standing in bread lines or waiting on a list for a gadgets, so supply of goods is just fine, the problem is with the demand ie. no disposable income in the pockets of the middle class because of stagnant wages and consumer debt
If only life was as nice & neat as you delusion it to be. The economy is not to be defined by the limitations or not of widgets & bread. It is better defined by the availability of jobs & discretionary income. The fact of the matter is there is a surplus of needs and unemployment, and there is a shortage of opportunity and expendable income. You are woefully dishonest - people are lined up for charitable breads, canned goods, and free emergency room visits. Open your eyes.
Lets have an honest debate? THis is the same punk that helped pass Medicare part C & D that allowed Pharma to rip off Medicare and now he says the only way to fix it is to hand it over to parasitic HMOs
However, in continuation of my last point, he does make very valid points about employers dumping employees on public plan. A debate is in order i agree paul, this video is a little old so im sure many things have been talked about that i am unaware of,
The problem with Paul ryan is that he is looking at the neoclassical views on competition and saying the government will monopolize the health care system. Being a person who has studied "real competition" as to opposed to the Neoclassical versions, which apply greatly to this issue. I feel a government monopoly on healthcare would never happen. I also think Paul knows this and is protecting private healthcare.
That is one stupid progressive. It is amazing how weak and unarmed these people are when confronted with the truth. The facts can be so annoying when you are arguing the other side.
HaHaHaHaHa. You've never heard of the eye of the needle because you've never been inside of a church. But who's the smarter party now? Dems - 1, GOP - stuffing those Bush Tax Cuts while making love to the Devil. Greed is one of the seven deadly sins but you don't know that because you've never been inside a church. Enjoy those Bush Tax Cuts you earned them. HaHaHaHaHa!!!
Ryan is so much smarter than this woman she really can not make an intelligent comeback. Ryan sees through her game really fast. This guy is going places. I hope Ryan persuaded her, but I doubt it... he is magnificent!
Lets talk about whats really wrong with this country! FOX NEWS is a Propaganda machine owned by tabloid sleeze lord "Rupert Murdock", & used to try to trick Christians and conservatives into believing the stupidest & meanest things imaginable! the amount of lies told on that channel in one hour could fill a large swimming pool! THATS whats killing this country, mass amounts of voters being filled all day long with non-facts and outright lies by Fox News! FIX THAT! and you fix the problem!!!
Ryan acts like it's a disadvantage to have "no choice" on what insurance plan you want. The problem with his argument is that's fine for someone who HAS a choice but what about those whose ONLY choice is to have NOTHING!!!! Isn't it better to have no choice and have SOMETHING then to have no choice and have NOTHING?
@YesYou123333 No. This argument would only be valid if it was actually about healthcare rather than health insurance. Everyone gets healthcare now insured or not. Choice and competition is always the most efficient way to allocate limited resources. Creating a government monopoly will be extremely wasteful and damaging to the economy in part because government is inherently inefficient and also because of the burden placed on small businesses.
What a double talking, disingenuous, pompose, subject avoiding asshole! He and his ilk in the Republican Party rely on less educated working class people to buy their racist, misogynistic, andti middle class rant. They get these people to vote against their own interests creating rhetoric that benefits ONLY a small portion of the truly rich corporate interests. Pontificate away!!!
He couldn't get elected to a lemonade stand today. The clown who wants to GUT Medicare and DESTROY Social Security, while giving TRILLIONS MORE in tax cuts to the FILTHY RICH. This TERRORIST can go straight to hell.
@ryno14090914 i have 2 sons in the air force they choose their plan and must pay a portion of it just like working for any private corporation ....they must also pay for their uniforms and boots.....internet in the dorms ? yup pay for that too $45 a month ......lotsa misinformation out there
NOTICE how as soon as Paul Ryan gets going out and gives that liberal cheerleader a cold hard spanking of the FACTS... that black dude immediately tries cutting him off.
I guess we were supposed to hear the rosy nonsensical propaganda from the liberal but they needed to cut short Rep. Ryan as he was in the midst of totally making her eat her own shit.
This is too funny.. Fox and MSNBC are both so biased.. FUck the MSM
@Jackson12303 Why would you think a liberal believes otherwise. They ALWAYS think they know all about things they haven't a clue on . What is even funnier is they are ARROGANT about their ignorance.
The one good thing about Ryan's budget proposal is that it will put a lot of right wingers out of thier jobs and homes. They'll have to move in with the kids who won't have jobs either. Many will die from lack of proper affordable health care. I'm all for that.
My Lord, did he destroy her. She should avoid arguing with anyone with an IQ in double digits. He exposed her as not only ignorant, but deceitful. She is the poster child for the left.
My Lord, did he destroy her. She should avoid arguing with anyone with an IQ in double digits. He exposed her as not only ignorant, but deceitful. She is the poster child for the left.
@lchrisberg1 sucks for you when you have to start incorporating the argument of the other side to make your own seem more palatable doesnt it? im going to see if i can get comedy central taken off my cable package. msnbc provides the same service far better.
@lchrisberg1 Using capitalistic rhetoric to sell a socialist agenda, I love it and it’s so on point!!!! What Nora is also failing to mention is that within this socialist agenda that she is decrying, shortages and slave like wages would be absolutely to follow. A large group of Drs have already said they would get out of practice if this is forced on us.
@maconsumner Are they all out of practice? How do doctors work and live and do just fine in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY. If the private sector can't compete then how is it better? Ryan admits that the private sector cant compete when it comes to health care! If it can't compete it should get out of the game right?
@sinistar99 A few problems with your thought process. The private sector cannot compete with the Gov because of subsidy that is paid for by tax payers and the government gets to dictate price of the products which has and always will cause shortages in every socialist society and program. After the 13th amendment was ratified, what you are saying is a bit illegal, and yes, requiring them to work for under value of their service is slavery.
@maconsumner Why can't compete with a government run system doesn't matter. It's better for consumers. The government is given constituional power to regulate commerce. The 13th amendment bans slavery which has NOTHING to do with government run health insurance. By your logic government run fire departments are illegal as well as government run police, highways, military etc. Which is ridiculous. Sorry the other 36 better health care systems are all socialist and where's the shortages?
@sinistar99 The other health care systems in question are all supported by exurbanite taxes or a completely fatalistic society. Even at that, many of them are currently engaged in austerity measures because they cannot afford it. Look past the other countries that are rated by the who, which is widely known for ignoring statistics that do not help their socialist agenda. Cuba is rated above us in these stats, what should this tell us?
@maconsumner It tells us Cuba has a better health care system! "the WHO's socialist aganda?" hahah well you're welcome to do studies and peer review any of their scintific journal published papers, but just to dismiss them with baseless accusations of having some ambiguously defined "socialist agenda" really isn't much of an argument. "widely known" by whom? Glenn Beck? We pay more per person for health care than ANY of those countries any way you slice it.
@sinistar99 We pay more? You could rephrase that to those who pay for their health care pay more and be correct. I pay for my insurance already, why should I and others like me be compelled to pay for everyone else’s? Also, can you give one example of a government ran system that has functioned well and was not filled with fraud basically from its inception? You don’t need to answer, I already know.
@maconsumner Tell me a private enterprise that is free of fraud and corruption? Insurance companies screw people all the time and Social Security hasn't missed a check in 60 years! Netflix delivered a billion movies how? Fedex? Ups? nope they went with the government option because it works better for what they are doing! I'm sorry but you don't already know anything except knee jerk reactionary talking points. You pay for everyone else on your insurance just as you would in a public plan.
@sinistar99 You do realize that even under Obama’s plan, you would be compelled to pay also? You do realize what the problem is with this constitutionally. Even for those who end up paying nothing, it still has to be paid for and that would include first taking from those who have to give to those who don’t. Guess what, Social security, Medicare and medicate are ripped with fraud in a major mess. Everything the government touches always turns into a mess.
@maconsumner The reason is common sense. Insurance by nature is "socialist" You pool your money with a community of comrades and that money is redistributed by a burocracy according to needs. And it works! by spreading risk among a wide user base the spikes are smoothed out and mathematically the widest user base is optimal. More$ goes to pay medical bills when you don't have to pay shareholder profits, billions in CEO bonuses and huge salaries, 1.5 mil a day on lobbyists, marketing etc.
That is false; there is a big difference between risk mitigation and socialism. In this case, it would be that people have the right to decline to purchase it just as the commerce clause and the 10th amendments silence on the issue intended.
@maconsumner And I'd much rather have the prices regulated by a democratic government that is accountable to the people and has checks and balances and a Bill of Rights etc rather than a collusion of giant corporations who's only stated goal --indeed legal obligation is to take as much of my money as possible with no other considerations. And at that level "competition" really doesn't exist. It's not like ordering a pizza or buying sneakers.
@lchrisberg1 Ryan and the republicans are the worst enemies of capitalism: they created a "priv enterprise" like the HMO system who's sole source of revenue is the taxpayer and call it a "free market system". No it's not free : it's a CAPTIVE market and it is just as competitive as socialist government owned enterprise in soviet russia: it's an engine of robbing the population on behalf of politically connected cronies. Conservatives R low information voters educated on boob tube
My Lord, did he destroy her. She should avoid arguing with anyone with an IQ in double digits. He exposed her as not only ignorant, but deceitful. She is the poster child for the left.
The ONLY way to bring jobs back to America is to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr.
This is the only way we can compete with China. Paul Ryan and my fellow republicans need to act on this now. Employers also should not have to carry the burdern of paying for health care either. Go get em Paul!
@GOPkicksbutt I myself am 17 and I believe the minimum wage thing is kind of iffy, I've got shit to pay off (some mistakes I've made in the recent past), 7.25 is ridiculous on the employer's part, nice for me but I can honestly say, for America as a whole, that's way too much. If they lowered min wage down, then they could infact tax CEO's/big business more and they won't see that chunk missing. But $2 an hour might not even be be enough to let me buy gas to get to and from work :/
@xXxDANMANxXx It's really not too much. Think of it this way, I'm originally from Washington State and the minimum wage for over 10 years was over 7.25 dollars while right below us in Oregon it was $5.25. Did all the McDonalds close up shop and move to Oregon? Nope. We had just as many and they did just fine. Higher minimum wage means more buying power for consumers which creates more economic activity --they sell more hamburgers. Which creates more jobs not less.
@sinistar99 that's true, but mcdonalds is like, the biggest restaurant in the US so of course they aren't going to see a difference. My work it's been kind of slow lately, we always have our ups and downs because it's not some big ass franchise like subway or mcdonalds and we actually had to raise our prices a tad to be on the safe side :/ there's almost more to the story it seems.
@xXxDANMANxXx Those are good points, Franchises are still privately owned and have to remain profitable to stay afloat. The main cost of the small businesses isn't usually going to be significantly changed by the difference between 2-3 bucks an hour more or less. It's worth it to me to pay a small difference in prices if it's the difference between people being sustainable or not. It's like I wonder if people argued about the price of cotton vis a vis ending slavery.
@GOPkicksbutt This whole economy thing, we're all stuck in the mud together, why not all pitch in together to get out of this. Lower the min wage a dollar or so, I say lower the smoking age to 16, legalize pot maybe, we could also export it I don't know a lot about pot though. But the things we sacrifice now wouldn't even be permanent. Like I said, I'm 17, I'm down to have it tough now and hopefully have an improved/more stable economy when I move out and have a family - when it counts
@xXxDANMANxXx The BETTER solution is to eliminate the minimum wage, you will find that in most cases it won't change the wage anyway - and raises for those willing to work hard will be easier to come by. It is quite possible that eliminating the minimum wage will mean you make MORE - as long as you are a good worker.
@ToddAldrich But if I'm a hard worker than in theory I should be able to get a raise anyways as minimum only restricts how low you can pay someone not how high. Unless that means someone else gets less...
@xXxDANMANxXx You are correct of course that it does not restrict how high you can set someone's wages at, but consider this: Businesses only have so much $ they can devote to labor costs. If the are forced, by a minimum wage, to pay workers that minimum wage, who are not WORTH that minimum wage, it means they have less money for you, the good worker.
@GOPkicksbutt Go find a country with a lower minimum wage and live there. Tell me how great their economy is. One thing they never tell you is in countries that beat us in production there are 2 things 1. Huge terrifs and government protections for domestic products which we don't have anymore thanks to GOP policies and 2 their CEOs make only about 10-20 times the average worker. Here workers and products have no protections and CEOs make 4000 or more times the average wage in their company.
@GOPkicksbutt I did educate myself. That's why I'm actually supporting my arguments with observable facts (none of which you refuted in any way) You should try doing the same before you act as a free spokesperson for giant corporations who don't give a flying rats ass about you.
@GOPkicksbutt Besides Bail out banks, cause recessions, screw the middle class and enrich the top 1% what have your fellow Republicans done? Democrats got us out of the Republican Great Depression, beat the Nazis (pubs didn't want to get involved), and put a man on the Moon. Tell me the great list of Republican accomplishments! It's ok when I was 17-18 I was a Republican too. Then I went to college.
@sinistar99 The republicans under Bush started the war on terror-a war that we are winning and is keeping America safe and sound. Because of our never ending fight against terror, our children will be safe and have great future ahead of them. Never forget-all the socialist government handouts are useless when a Muslim terrorist is cutting off your head. Next?!
Ryan wants to give MORE tax breaks to the rich so they can build more factories overseas. This is a continuation of the Bush years where 8 million jobs were
outsourced. If this nigger has his way none of us will have jobs, health care, or social security! America deserves better!
Ryan and the GOP believe in choices!! That's right-if they have their way senior citizens will have to make lots of choices - one choice they'll have to make will be between health care and food! SUCKERS!!!
yep....tax the rich! and sit back and watch the rest our jobs go overseas....sounds like a good fix to me.....I have worked for people whom I would consider "rich"...when they had more money to spend, I benefitted by getting more work and bigger bonuses.This "eat the rich" mentality is very ignorant.....
@stringlov When will liberals understand that if you SEIZED all the Wealth and assets in this country your couldn't come CLOSE to paying off the federal Deficit....Tax the rich ? Seizing their wealth pays for the government spending for less than one day...
When a Black man got on screen and said he'd like to continue while Paul is in Wisconsin Via satellite, Paul Ryan, speaking really articulately all throughout this interview stuttered, he stuttered mistaking that he heard the African American man say he'd like to continue the interview in Wisconsin with Paul Ryan. Made it look like he's not comfortable around African American people.
In my discernment, I've noticed that a sign of lying is stuttering - he's only another Rep vote splitter
Mr. Ryan is a hack, an idealogue, and knows next to nothing about economics. He gets press as a man of ideas, but he's just recycling the trickle-down garbage that was discredited 150 years ago and keeps getting resurrected by corporatist clowns like himself. Unfortunately, lots of gullible people keep buying this crap...
lets get behind paul ryan.... he is way smarter that than any of these clowns....and he owns these bufoons in such an amicable way..... he understands economics and makes high ranking dems look like fifth graders...PAUL RYAN for president.!!!
Isn't the job of a reporter to just report and not get heated over a subject pushing his or her own agenda? if we ever seen media pushing political agendas....
It was refreshing to see how msnbc got brutally beaten on national tv, then the dude at the end intervenes to pull Ryan of the nearly corps.
So Katrina should had followed up by asking, ok you have private healthcare...now what is your salary??...because a portion of Americans work two or more jobs...just to maintain a living with a portion of their salary going to..Bills and in growing numbers....Debt..
Viewers.... this guy may have sound like he was on track....but the kind of coverage...he has....of course!!!... he can afford it.....if you had the power to vote on raising your salary...you can afford anything..think about that..
This woman doesn't know what she is talking about, and does not have the courtesy to admit that she is mistaken. Ryan will be President, hopefully VERY soon!
when katrina starts talking about the "denying competition", it's funny how paul ryan begins to smile. it's like he's licking his chops to destroy what she says. well done.
"this is all about competition..." Mr. Ryan is correct pointing out the leftist word-play making it sound like single payor somehow magically encourages competition.
By saying that the private sector cannot compete with a public option he is admitting that the the Private for profit Payer system is so costly and inefficent that it is miserable failure.
Yes, some people will be buried and that will be the democrats in November.... Let me guess your debate will be that States require people have car insurance?? Not the same,but go ahead and debate me you won't be the first and not the last... Give me your best shot.... BTW- ACORN is shutting down across the country....
@barthunt1 Well it's a year later and Republicans won a majority in the senate. How about all those improvements eh? And BTW ACORN is up and running and doing just fine thanks very much.
@genYprogressive Actually, the government will not be working in the interest of profit. Because of this, the Government is free to cut prices and either run a deficit and accumulate debt which is most likely, or break even. Because a government is capable of operating at a loss it can deliver the insurance lower. But the government runs on tax payer funds. As a result, taxes will either raise in other areas to hide shortfall or the program will run bankrupt. Like Medicare.
Nice try. Crooks like Paul Ryan will never mention the reason why Medicare is going broke. It is a goverment payer system that has to work throught the private for profit system unregulated.
Every other country that has the Canadian Single Payer model has the goverment use its purchasing powere to negotiate lower drug prices. The U.S. is the only country that doesnt do this. Furthermore Premiums are much more costly than the the taxes under sigle payer healthcare.
@Thebboss Don't give me this bullshit about running at a loss we spend more on healthcare than any other country and tens of thousands are killed by insurace companys. Are you saying that you would rather pay $1400 in insurance premiums that an extra $200? Also Medicare Part D was desighned to have drug companys charge whatever they wanted, Paul Ryan and the Cons broke Medicare so they could say that it does not work. Are you aware that 62% of bankrupcys are from medical debt? Didn't thinks so.
@genYprogressive Yes someone gets it. He contradicts himself blatantly --and reveals the hypocracy of the system he's protecting which benifits only a few and costs thousands of Americans their lives.
Do you want me to list all of the skeletons that Paul Ryan has. He has one gotcha questin at the healthcare summet, and now Paul Ryan is the Republicans Noam Chomsky.
I am beging you please run Paul Ryan for President in 2012.
Nobody asks him about his votes on banking in the fall of 2008.
Grayson would make very short work of Paul Ryan, Dennis Kucinich would as well.
@genYprogressive There is not a congressman in Washington what would make short work of Ryan on a financial debate. There is not a congressman in Washington that could hold his jockstrap in a financial debate.
@brownnate68 I really hope that you are joking. Paul Ryan voted for Medicare Part D that wastes 350 billion a year. Kucinich and Grayson were not allowed at the Healthcare Summet. Google Paul Ryans Crazy Budget Graph, he has no credibility on finance. In a debate Dennis Kucinich would stomp a mudhole in Paul Ryan and walk it dry.
@genYprogressive Get your facts straight. Medicare Part D is the only healthcare legislation thats performed below CBO cost estimates and saved money. Thats due to the fact that it was centered entirely around the free market...So stop put down the Kool Aid...and quit going to your Karl Marx Sunday school class
@molloyboytoy You think that Medicare Part D saves money? Did you go to school on the short bus or are you just dishonest. Part D was the Cons plan to make Medicare pay full retail price for drugs and procedures, so it would eventually go broke, and that would give Paul Ryan a excuse to privatize it. The VA pays $127 for a year supply of Zocor while Part D pays $1485. Part D made it illegal to get lower drug prices, something every other country that has better healthcare in the US does.
@genYprogressive Read it and weep ...From a liberal newspaper...80% satisfaction rate among seniors and performing below cost estimates that passed the bill...So quit falling for the rhetoric....There is no doubt that in some cases seniors pay more for prescriptions...but look at the quality of healthcare the VA gives its atrocious they found rats living inside of the walter Reid and reported they were still using equipment from the 1960's...this bill has been succesful
@genYprogressive . ..Furthermore we're first in customer satisfaction compared to other countries and have the highest rate of secondary surgery success...Thats why over 60 percent of ppl want repeal
@molloyboytoy Yes customer satisfaction is at 80% now, down from when it was 93% 10 years ago. Still all 3 of the gov run programs run circles around the private insurance companys. United Health has a 90% dissatisfaction rate, and the top 10 are not far behind. The joke is on Paul Ryan, him saying that I have private insurance is meaningless in this argument because people with his income will have no problem paying for healthcare.
@genYprogressive Source??? Healthcare isn't an inherent right...furthermore I refuse to pay for the healthcare of others...escpecially when its the goverment healthcare that contributes the most debt to the country...Furthermore private insurance satisfaction is above 84% (Rasmussen) therefore on the whole private insurance has a higher satisfaction rate than Canada and England where they have almost 70 percent dissatisfaction rates
@genYprogressive In addition, Part D only pays for about 20 prescriptions at high rates (Article I highlighted)...and the only reason the VA gets them so cheap is because I PAY FOR THEM...Which I refuse to do for anyone other than seniors and veterans....which explains why on the whole Part D was a good idea...and why 2/3 of the country agrees with me and Representative Ryan
@molloyboytoy If you want to look at customer satisfaction look at the goverment run care vs private insurance. In customer satisfaction TRICARE is 1 The VA is 2 and Medicare is 3. Give it up, Americas Healthcare is ranked 37th in the world because of these blood sucking insurance companys. Untll they put these leaches out of buisness and replaced with Single-Payer we will not have real healthcare. Do you still want to defend our failed system?
@genYprogressive Tricare has also one of the lowest equipment and treatment standards....Sure it is because we dont treat it as a right plus we are a more violent country and have more deaths per year than any other country... I live in Mass and endure Romney care...which encompasses over 2/3 of the states debt and has quadrupled in cost since its implementation four years ago...Obama admitted it was the same plan ....therefore it will garner the same failing results
@molloyboytoy You live in Ma, well I live in Ca where Blue Cross had record profits for 2009. This year they have just jacked up premium rates 39% just because they could to punish the people in Ca for voeting for Single-Payer which the Gov vetoed.Paul Ryan opposes a public option for budget reasons but his plan is to use tax dollars to pay for-profit insurance companys to provide coverage. With Paul Ryans Blowjob for the insurance companys we will pay more and get less. This guy is a sick joke.
@genYprogressive We are the only country that has the highest rate of secondary and elective surgery success and the best primary care in the world...we lose face because of those that go uncovered which is why we need true capitalist reform to remove liberal regulation that's allowed this mess to be created..and highest satisfaction rates among people covered ...so America says cover the 12% instead of augmenting the care of 84-88% of those satisfied
@molloyboytoy We only the best coverage to the people that get access to it. Nobody that has for-profit insurance is satisfyed with it when they have to use it. United Health is the biggest insurance company and 90% of there customers hate them.
@genYprogressive Lastly, should we also close macdonalds for making some of those people unhealthy...or should we destroy all business that require high risk menial labor such as coal mining, construction etc. millions die every year due to a myriad of things related to governments as well as business, governments through things like war, famine etc should we live in a communist society...no we take the good with the bad and realize that we are in the best situation possible
@molloyboytoy That is Apples and Oranges. Healthcare is a nessecity, McDonalds is not, I don't have to get my food from there but I need healthcare. There are 3 models of healthcare and the British NHS has been the most sucessful, and the most used. The Canadian Single-Payer model is also popular, and German non-profit private system. All of these models have been used by other countrys. How many countrys have copied the American for-profit system? ZERO.
@genYprogressive No your equivocating death simply to lack of insurance...what about the contributing factors should they be shut down as well...health care isn't necessity where in our constitution is that dictated..the nhs in england and Canada have 70 percent dissatisfaction rates both are bankrupt...America isn't a socialist democracy hence a for profit system and a faster growing economy...and more individual success than the average European has the opportunity to enjoy
@molloyboytoy Listen to the Rhetoric now coming out of Germany and England Representatives like Daniel Hannon and Mark Cameron have my views...views with no previous traction in Europe and their winning elections all of a sudden...its a tacit admittance that their system is failing and needs to reduce it federal burden through privatization which yields no debt and provides services more efficiently and effectively
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Uck espouse the "free market" while fighting to keep massive subsidies, loopholes and corporate tax breaks in place. Doesn't this dichotomy strike anyone as hypocritical? Or has the term "free market" lost all meaning and relativity amidst the New Corporatism usurping our government?
NotSuchAnEvilBunny 1 week ago
pENIS NOSE
justonefirefly1 2 weeks ago
dRUG TEST THE LITTLE PRICK - MAKE HIIM PEEE IN A CUP BEFORE WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE LITTLE COWARD FUCKER
justonefirefly1 2 weeks ago
Paul Ryan is a snake oil salesman, eager to lead on the ignorant republican base.
madashelldude 3 weeks ago
Ryan is a motherfucker
jandean61 4 weeks ago
I pray to God that this man runs for president in 2016 or 2020.
GodotheInfantry 1 month ago
Hell yea Ryan. Stick to your guns!
ttorres89 1 month ago
THere is no such thing as a "Market Solution" dumbass.
genYprogressive83 1 month ago
@genYprogressive83 Every country that allows the rich to opt out of public services such as infrastructure, education and healthcare ends up in the toilet because that's how u make a country competitive. Eisenhower created NASA and built the Interstate HWY system on 91% top marginal tax rate. GM and Ford can't compete against German & and Japanese products because these competitors have their workers on a NATIONAL healthcare system. NATIONAL! that's why it's cheaper: it's the biggest risk pool!
madashelldude 3 weeks ago
@madashelldude
You're a fusty old blowhard who doesn't understand the basics of supply-demand. The problem with the economy is firstly a problem concerned with excessive sucklings who've corrupted the parameters of wants vs. needs. And the reason they are able to turn the USA into a nanny state is because of the wooing from politically expedient Left-Wingers who are selling their souls to the devil in exchange for votes.
Get it right Junior, next week I'll educate you about Union wages.
WaitInLineIllegals 3 weeks ago
@WaitInLineIllegals "Supply-side economics" means you are holding your thumb on the scale of free markets and pushing it down on 1 side. It's a sneak attack on free market capitalism more insidious than communism. In fact the USA is growing its debt faster than its GDP every year since Reagan's supply side tax cuts of 1981. That's because GDP growth is 70% consumer demand: if you cut taxes on the rich u allow them to make money by simply sitting on their investment accounts
madashelldude 3 weeks ago
@WaitInLineIllegals What financial deregulation and taxcuts did the last 30 years is tocreate an incentive for the rich to take money out of the future earnings of their workers and put it either offshore or on wall street in their personal investment accounts. that was not allowed in the USA for 50 years. In fact the last time that was allowed, the USA was not the superpower that it is today and it had no middle class to speak of. Unions and regulation built the USA!
madashelldude 3 weeks ago
@WaitInLineIllegals The difference between you and I is that I know the numbers and you know the propaganda talking points. Reaganomics didn't work in 1981with 32% debt to GDP ratio and less than $1 trillion national debt , it doesn't work today with 95% and $15 trillion and it sure won't work under the cheap racket of some snot-nosed elite carpet beggar like Ryan.
madashelldude 3 weeks ago
@madashelldude
You need to man-up and admit to being a politically biased fanatic. You might be able to impress vulnerable left-wing mice into marching to the beat of your deceitful tunes, but you cannot influence rational persons into believing your yellow-journalism. Keep reciting all this imperial fluff, it amounts to nothing more than examples of your hate-mongering fodder. You'll not be taken seriously until you demonstrate a capacity to address the basics instead of smoke & mirrors.
WaitInLineIllegals 3 weeks ago
@WaitInLineIllegals LOL! "biased fanatic", "left-wing mice"?! What are you, 12?! All my numbers are coming form the budget of the USA, thanks for playing! Let me know when you find a year in which a republican president grew the economy faster than the debt since 1981! that includes the years when Ryan supported Medicare Part D under W!
BTW, you are so dim, you can't even see that you are inflicting brand damage on conservatives by simply posting your retarded opinions!
madashelldude 2 weeks ago
@madashelldude
You are a superfluous blowhard who avoids academic honesty by use of empirical irrelevance & rhetorical misdirection, and who suffers from severe cognitive dissonance when to disparage other people. America's financial woes are the direct result of Dem's orgy of suckling entitlements necessary to secure voting blocs in hopes of stealing elections. Because you are too dumb to understand macroscopic economics, you are to be found at the far left on the Bell Curve Of Common Sense.
WaitInLineIllegals 2 weeks ago
@WaitInLineIllegals "superfluous blowhard" "academic honesty" "macroscopic economics"?! LOL! Is that like "microscopic accounting"?! I don't even know WTF is that you are trying to say all I can see is that you seem to be a sore loser.
madashelldude 2 weeks ago
@madashelldude
Of course that's "all you can see." Thus, by your own admission even the most general of discussion points is way above your pay grade. I'm not sure if you'd be better described by your ignorant buffoonery or by your incredulous dishonesty. In the end it really doesn't matter because you amount to nothing more than a gaseous windbag full of yellow journalism and skewed hyperbole.
Move On Junior, Try the Kiddie Channel
WaitInLineIllegals 2 weeks ago
@WaitInLineIllegals Clearly the more you speak the more you embarrass yourself. I am still waiting for an answer about the 30 year record of failure of reaganomics, but since you haven't even attempted to answer my point about the national debt to GDP ratio I assume it's above your paygrade and you conceded defeat, as for your incoherent rambling you present as an "argument" it's the usual stupid ass frat boy attitude that tells the world how dumb your party membership is.
madashelldude 2 weeks ago
@madashelldude
Listen up Junior, I'm starting to tire of your diversionary antics. You are the most dishonest & incredulous fat-mouth buffoon on YouTube. It's one thing to rhetorically ramble the way you do, but it's another thing to speak with relevance & validity. Your dialectical forte amounts to bobbing & weaving with smoke & mirrors. Let me simplify things for you Sonny, the prevailing economical problem continues to be the Dems and their grandiose tactics of political expediency.
WaitInLineIllegals 2 weeks ago
@WaitInLineIllegals Your tone is petulant, arrogant and you seem to project your own foul attitude on others. I have no problem voting for a republican like Eisenhower. In fact every year Ike was in office the USA grew its economy much faster than its debt, top taxrates were 91%, 35% of the private workforce was union and the USA was building industries. Under Reagan the opposite: cut taxes to 30% & every year the debt grew faster than the GDP & shipped industries overseas
madashelldude 2 weeks ago
@madashelldude
I know better than to let a phony and a trickster lead a conversation. No action is an action, thus your refusal to discount how the Dems have corrupted the causal dynamics of supply & demand vis-à-vis people & resources amounts to your admission of its truthfulness. What you do when academically trumped is revert to defamation & slander against millions of Americans who prefer conservative values & politics. Listen Junior, this attitude of yours is par to that of a racist's.
WaitInLineIllegals 2 weeks ago
@WaitInLineIllegals I see the only value you seem to prefer is being ignorant and childish. So what's the national debt of the USA?! Of that what percent was created before 1981 and what percent after?! You seem to have no interest in your country "junior" all you want is to hate on your own countrymen depending on stupid party affiliations and loyalties. sort of like the nazis and the commies in old europe: it's all about parroting a party line for your type.
madashelldude 2 weeks ago
@madashelldude
Listen Junior, when it comes to understanding economics you need to learn to wade before you swim. Anyone can frolic in the waters of irrelevant statistics, but if you don’t have a foundational understanding of supply & demand equilibrium, than you’re an incredulous & lost soul in the world of academia. The economy will continue to be strained as long the Loony-Left keeps selling their souls for political expediency and continue having their lustful tax & spend orgies.
WaitInLineIllegals 2 weeks ago
@WaitInLineIllegals It's ironic that the balance between supply and demand is EXACTLY what's being destroyed by "supply side economics" since the 80s?! How can you even pretend to understand the problem when you can't seem to grasp the basic fact that constantly cutting taxes on the supply side created the economic imbalance which resulted in $14 of the $15 trillion debt the last 30 years?! Not to mention the $40 trillion private sect debt! Social Sec exists since 1935!!
madashelldude 2 weeks ago
@madashelldude
Get real Junior, your deflections & reconfigurations will not work on me. We both know it's the Liberals who are primarily responsible for the upward changes on the demand curve and the downward changes on the supply curve as a result of increased taxation & excessive population growth. For the American economy to enjoy a prospering balance sheet it will need to effectuate population reduction, immigration control, reduced taxation, and stoppage of entitlement suckling.
WaitInLineIllegals 2 weeks ago
@WaitInLineIllegals LOL! what "upward changes in the demand curve"?! Every economist agrees that the main reason the economy can't recover is because companies have no customers: there is weak consumer demand. Last I checked most people are not standing in bread lines or waiting on a list for a gadgets, so supply of goods is just fine, the problem is with the demand ie. no disposable income in the pockets of the middle class because of stagnant wages and consumer debt
madashelldude 2 weeks ago
@madashelldude
If only life was as nice & neat as you delusion it to be. The economy is not to be defined by the limitations or not of widgets & bread. It is better defined by the availability of jobs & discretionary income. The fact of the matter is there is a surplus of needs and unemployment, and there is a shortage of opportunity and expendable income. You are woefully dishonest - people are lined up for charitable breads, canned goods, and free emergency room visits. Open your eyes.
WaitInLineIllegals 2 weeks ago
@madashelldude Exactly the sooner Wisconsin gets rid of this shyster the better. He helped destroy Medicare now he wants to turn it over to the HMOs.
I long to see Paul Ryan sit across the table from Kucinich. Kucinich would eat this Randroid for breakfast.
genYprogressive83 3 weeks ago
Lets have an honest debate? THis is the same punk that helped pass Medicare part C & D that allowed Pharma to rip off Medicare and now he says the only way to fix it is to hand it over to parasitic HMOs
Paul Ryan is a serial liar.
genYprogressive83 1 month ago
She got slapped down...Ryan doin a great job. Should be speaker of the house
lanebatts26 1 month ago
However, in continuation of my last point, he does make very valid points about employers dumping employees on public plan. A debate is in order i agree paul, this video is a little old so im sure many things have been talked about that i am unaware of,
olmscheidr 1 month ago
The problem with Paul ryan is that he is looking at the neoclassical views on competition and saying the government will monopolize the health care system. Being a person who has studied "real competition" as to opposed to the Neoclassical versions, which apply greatly to this issue. I feel a government monopoly on healthcare would never happen. I also think Paul knows this and is protecting private healthcare.
olmscheidr 1 month ago
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That is one stupid progressive. It is amazing how weak and unarmed these people are when confronted with the truth. The facts can be so annoying when you are arguing the other side.
jjmnky 1 month ago
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jjmnky 1 month ago
Wow. That right there really showed msdnc's liberal bias. That's shocking. FOX isn't even that bad.
WinstonMan1000 1 month ago
Not only where they anti-free market, but it sounded like they where anti-Wisconsin!!! GIVE EM HELL RYAN!!
BlondBlackGuy 1 month ago
OWNED BITCK!
lbacchus888 2 months ago
HaHaHaHaHa. You've never heard of the eye of the needle because you've never been inside of a church. But who's the smarter party now? Dems - 1, GOP - stuffing those Bush Tax Cuts while making love to the Devil. Greed is one of the seven deadly sins but you don't know that because you've never been inside a church. Enjoy those Bush Tax Cuts you earned them. HaHaHaHaHa!!!
petalofhope1 2 months ago
Ryan is so much smarter than this woman she really can not make an intelligent comeback. Ryan sees through her game really fast. This guy is going places. I hope Ryan persuaded her, but I doubt it... he is magnificent!
246gus 2 months ago
i wish paul ryan was one of the presidental candidates
mjwander1 2 months ago
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Lets talk about whats really wrong with this country! FOX NEWS is a Propaganda machine owned by tabloid sleeze lord "Rupert Murdock", & used to try to trick Christians and conservatives into believing the stupidest & meanest things imaginable! the amount of lies told on that channel in one hour could fill a large swimming pool! THATS whats killing this country, mass amounts of voters being filled all day long with non-facts and outright lies by Fox News! FIX THAT! and you fix the problem!!!
samantha11363 2 months ago
Ryan acts like it's a disadvantage to have "no choice" on what insurance plan you want. The problem with his argument is that's fine for someone who HAS a choice but what about those whose ONLY choice is to have NOTHING!!!! Isn't it better to have no choice and have SOMETHING then to have no choice and have NOTHING?
YesYou123333 3 months ago
@YesYou123333 No. This argument would only be valid if it was actually about healthcare rather than health insurance. Everyone gets healthcare now insured or not. Choice and competition is always the most efficient way to allocate limited resources. Creating a government monopoly will be extremely wasteful and damaging to the economy in part because government is inherently inefficient and also because of the burden placed on small businesses.
darkENhandsome 2 months ago
What a double talking, disingenuous, pompose, subject avoiding asshole! He and his ilk in the Republican Party rely on less educated working class people to buy their racist, misogynistic, andti middle class rant. They get these people to vote against their own interests creating rhetoric that benefits ONLY a small portion of the truly rich corporate interests. Pontificate away!!!
musclemike1969 3 months ago
Fucktard Liberals just don't know when it's time to jump in front of a bus.
The442nd 4 months ago
FUCK Clown Paul Ryan
jon85554es 4 months ago
@jon85554es did u use spell check for that informative though?
19independentminded6 4 months ago
i like this guy ryan
rddaos 4 months ago
Im a Marine, if the congressman gets hurt anywhere near a military hostpital he will be taken and treated there.... Free.
Actually, somebody pays for it.
Eventually.. Oh, not the congressman tho.
sagequan 4 months ago
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PAUL RYAN.
He couldn't get elected to a lemonade stand today. The clown who wants to GUT Medicare and DESTROY Social Security, while giving TRILLIONS MORE in tax cuts to the FILTHY RICH. This TERRORIST can go straight to hell.
medartist01 4 months ago
That lib got OWNED!!!
thewoolvertons 4 months ago
what a smart man.
westedinburgh 5 months ago
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TEA PARTY = EXTREMIST FUNDAMENTALIST
ERIC CANTOR = EXTREMIST FUNDAMENTALIST
TEA PARTY = RIGHT WING SOCIAL ENGINEERS
GROVER NORQUIST = IN THE BACK POKET OF THE COKE BROTHERS.
JOHN BOEHNER = AFRAID OF THE TEA PARTY THEREFORE CAN'T DO HIS JOB WHICH IS TO GOVERN
ananovoice 6 months ago
Give em hell Ryan!
JustBecauseTheySaySo 6 months ago 12
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@JustBecauseTheySaySo TEA PARTY = EXTREMIST FUNDAMENTALIST
ERIC CANTOR = EXTREMIST FUNDAMENTALIST
TEA PARTY = RIGHT WING SOCIAL ENGINEERS
GROVER NORQUIST = IN THE BACK POKET OF THE COKE BROTHERS.
JOHN BOEHNER = AFRAID OF THE TEA PARTY THEREFORE CAN'T DO HIS JOB WHICH IS TO GOVERN
ananovoice 6 months ago
@ryno14090914 i have 2 sons in the air force they choose their plan and must pay a portion of it just like working for any private corporation ....they must also pay for their uniforms and boots.....internet in the dorms ? yup pay for that too $45 a month ......lotsa misinformation out there
alross18058 6 months ago
katrina is a moron, public option = NO COMPETITION, liberals are so fucking retarded this country is beyond doomed
TheUnitedStatists 7 months ago
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@TheUnitedStatists TEA PARTY = EXTREMIST FUNDAMENTALIST
ERIC CANTOR = EXTREMIST FUNDAMENTALIST
TEA PARTY = RIGHT WING SOCIAL ENGINEERS
GROVER NORQUIST = IN THE BACK POKET OF THE COKE BROTHERS.
JOHN BOEHNER = AFRAID OF THE TEA PARTY THEREFORE CAN'T DO HIS JOB WHICH IS TO GOVERN
ananovoice 6 months ago
NOTICE how as soon as Paul Ryan gets going out and gives that liberal cheerleader a cold hard spanking of the FACTS... that black dude immediately tries cutting him off.
I guess we were supposed to hear the rosy nonsensical propaganda from the liberal but they needed to cut short Rep. Ryan as he was in the midst of totally making her eat her own shit.
This is too funny.. Fox and MSNBC are both so biased.. FUck the MSM
bobshenix 7 months ago
Katrina got schooled...., another lib hammered by the facts.
bomac10000 7 months ago
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Katrina is an idiot.
sbank 8 months ago
Haha ryan destorys her
etest12 8 months ago
This lady is an idiot and needs to get off the air
jecantuasu 8 months ago
does this lady really think she knows more about ryans healthcare insurance then he does?
Jackson12303 8 months ago
@Jackson12303 Why would you think a liberal believes otherwise. They ALWAYS think they know all about things they haven't a clue on . What is even funnier is they are ARROGANT about their ignorance.
ToddAldrich 8 months ago
The one good thing about Ryan's budget proposal is that it will put a lot of right wingers out of thier jobs and homes. They'll have to move in with the kids who won't have jobs either. Many will die from lack of proper affordable health care. I'm all for that.
TheKmbt 8 months ago
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My Lord, did he destroy her. She should avoid arguing with anyone with an IQ in double digits. He exposed her as not only ignorant, but deceitful. She is the poster child for the left.
lchrisberg1 9 months ago
My Lord, did he destroy her. She should avoid arguing with anyone with an IQ in double digits. He exposed her as not only ignorant, but deceitful. She is the poster child for the left.
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@lchrisberg1 sucks for you when you have to start incorporating the argument of the other side to make your own seem more palatable doesnt it? im going to see if i can get comedy central taken off my cable package. msnbc provides the same service far better.
187Unseen 6 months ago
@lchrisberg1 Using capitalistic rhetoric to sell a socialist agenda, I love it and it’s so on point!!!! What Nora is also failing to mention is that within this socialist agenda that she is decrying, shortages and slave like wages would be absolutely to follow. A large group of Drs have already said they would get out of practice if this is forced on us.
maconsumner 4 months ago
@maconsumner Are they all out of practice? How do doctors work and live and do just fine in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY. If the private sector can't compete then how is it better? Ryan admits that the private sector cant compete when it comes to health care! If it can't compete it should get out of the game right?
sinistar99 3 months ago
@sinistar99 A few problems with your thought process. The private sector cannot compete with the Gov because of subsidy that is paid for by tax payers and the government gets to dictate price of the products which has and always will cause shortages in every socialist society and program. After the 13th amendment was ratified, what you are saying is a bit illegal, and yes, requiring them to work for under value of their service is slavery.
maconsumner 3 months ago
@maconsumner Why can't compete with a government run system doesn't matter. It's better for consumers. The government is given constituional power to regulate commerce. The 13th amendment bans slavery which has NOTHING to do with government run health insurance. By your logic government run fire departments are illegal as well as government run police, highways, military etc. Which is ridiculous. Sorry the other 36 better health care systems are all socialist and where's the shortages?
sinistar99 3 months ago
@sinistar99 The other health care systems in question are all supported by exurbanite taxes or a completely fatalistic society. Even at that, many of them are currently engaged in austerity measures because they cannot afford it. Look past the other countries that are rated by the who, which is widely known for ignoring statistics that do not help their socialist agenda. Cuba is rated above us in these stats, what should this tell us?
maconsumner 3 months ago
@maconsumner It tells us Cuba has a better health care system! "the WHO's socialist aganda?" hahah well you're welcome to do studies and peer review any of their scintific journal published papers, but just to dismiss them with baseless accusations of having some ambiguously defined "socialist agenda" really isn't much of an argument. "widely known" by whom? Glenn Beck? We pay more per person for health care than ANY of those countries any way you slice it.
sinistar99 3 months ago
@sinistar99 We pay more? You could rephrase that to those who pay for their health care pay more and be correct. I pay for my insurance already, why should I and others like me be compelled to pay for everyone else’s? Also, can you give one example of a government ran system that has functioned well and was not filled with fraud basically from its inception? You don’t need to answer, I already know.
maconsumner 3 months ago
@maconsumner Tell me a private enterprise that is free of fraud and corruption? Insurance companies screw people all the time and Social Security hasn't missed a check in 60 years! Netflix delivered a billion movies how? Fedex? Ups? nope they went with the government option because it works better for what they are doing! I'm sorry but you don't already know anything except knee jerk reactionary talking points. You pay for everyone else on your insurance just as you would in a public plan.
sinistar99 3 months ago
@sinistar99 You do realize that even under Obama’s plan, you would be compelled to pay also? You do realize what the problem is with this constitutionally. Even for those who end up paying nothing, it still has to be paid for and that would include first taking from those who have to give to those who don’t. Guess what, Social security, Medicare and medicate are ripped with fraud in a major mess. Everything the government touches always turns into a mess.
maconsumner 3 months ago
@maconsumner The reason is common sense. Insurance by nature is "socialist" You pool your money with a community of comrades and that money is redistributed by a burocracy according to needs. And it works! by spreading risk among a wide user base the spikes are smoothed out and mathematically the widest user base is optimal. More$ goes to pay medical bills when you don't have to pay shareholder profits, billions in CEO bonuses and huge salaries, 1.5 mil a day on lobbyists, marketing etc.
sinistar99 3 months ago
@sinistar99 Insurance by nature is "socialist"
That is false; there is a big difference between risk mitigation and socialism. In this case, it would be that people have the right to decline to purchase it just as the commerce clause and the 10th amendments silence on the issue intended.
maconsumner 3 months ago
@maconsumner And I'd much rather have the prices regulated by a democratic government that is accountable to the people and has checks and balances and a Bill of Rights etc rather than a collusion of giant corporations who's only stated goal --indeed legal obligation is to take as much of my money as possible with no other considerations. And at that level "competition" really doesn't exist. It's not like ordering a pizza or buying sneakers.
sinistar99 3 months ago
@lchrisberg1 Ryan and the republicans are the worst enemies of capitalism: they created a "priv enterprise" like the HMO system who's sole source of revenue is the taxpayer and call it a "free market system". No it's not free : it's a CAPTIVE market and it is just as competitive as socialist government owned enterprise in soviet russia: it's an engine of robbing the population on behalf of politically connected cronies. Conservatives R low information voters educated on boob tube
madashelldude 3 weeks ago
My Lord, did he destroy her. She should avoid arguing with anyone with an IQ in double digits. He exposed her as not only ignorant, but deceitful. She is the poster child for the left.
lchrisberg1 9 months ago
The ONLY way to bring jobs back to America is to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr.
This is the only way we can compete with China. Paul Ryan and my fellow republicans need to act on this now. Employers also should not have to carry the burdern of paying for health care either. Go get em Paul!
GOPkicksbutt 9 months ago
@GOPkicksbutt I myself am 17 and I believe the minimum wage thing is kind of iffy, I've got shit to pay off (some mistakes I've made in the recent past), 7.25 is ridiculous on the employer's part, nice for me but I can honestly say, for America as a whole, that's way too much. If they lowered min wage down, then they could infact tax CEO's/big business more and they won't see that chunk missing. But $2 an hour might not even be be enough to let me buy gas to get to and from work :/
xXxDANMANxXx 8 months ago
@xXxDANMANxXx It's really not too much. Think of it this way, I'm originally from Washington State and the minimum wage for over 10 years was over 7.25 dollars while right below us in Oregon it was $5.25. Did all the McDonalds close up shop and move to Oregon? Nope. We had just as many and they did just fine. Higher minimum wage means more buying power for consumers which creates more economic activity --they sell more hamburgers. Which creates more jobs not less.
sinistar99 3 months ago
@sinistar99 that's true, but mcdonalds is like, the biggest restaurant in the US so of course they aren't going to see a difference. My work it's been kind of slow lately, we always have our ups and downs because it's not some big ass franchise like subway or mcdonalds and we actually had to raise our prices a tad to be on the safe side :/ there's almost more to the story it seems.
xXxDANMANxXx 3 months ago
@xXxDANMANxXx Those are good points, Franchises are still privately owned and have to remain profitable to stay afloat. The main cost of the small businesses isn't usually going to be significantly changed by the difference between 2-3 bucks an hour more or less. It's worth it to me to pay a small difference in prices if it's the difference between people being sustainable or not. It's like I wonder if people argued about the price of cotton vis a vis ending slavery.
sinistar99 3 months ago
@GOPkicksbutt This whole economy thing, we're all stuck in the mud together, why not all pitch in together to get out of this. Lower the min wage a dollar or so, I say lower the smoking age to 16, legalize pot maybe, we could also export it I don't know a lot about pot though. But the things we sacrifice now wouldn't even be permanent. Like I said, I'm 17, I'm down to have it tough now and hopefully have an improved/more stable economy when I move out and have a family - when it counts
xXxDANMANxXx 8 months ago
@xXxDANMANxXx The BETTER solution is to eliminate the minimum wage, you will find that in most cases it won't change the wage anyway - and raises for those willing to work hard will be easier to come by. It is quite possible that eliminating the minimum wage will mean you make MORE - as long as you are a good worker.
ToddAldrich 8 months ago
@ToddAldrich But if I'm a hard worker than in theory I should be able to get a raise anyways as minimum only restricts how low you can pay someone not how high. Unless that means someone else gets less...
xXxDANMANxXx 8 months ago
@xXxDANMANxXx You are correct of course that it does not restrict how high you can set someone's wages at, but consider this: Businesses only have so much $ they can devote to labor costs. If the are forced, by a minimum wage, to pay workers that minimum wage, who are not WORTH that minimum wage, it means they have less money for you, the good worker.
ToddAldrich 8 months ago
@GOPkicksbutt Go find a country with a lower minimum wage and live there. Tell me how great their economy is. One thing they never tell you is in countries that beat us in production there are 2 things 1. Huge terrifs and government protections for domestic products which we don't have anymore thanks to GOP policies and 2 their CEOs make only about 10-20 times the average worker. Here workers and products have no protections and CEOs make 4000 or more times the average wage in their company.
sinistar99 3 months ago
@sinistar99 You are simply repeating a liberal talking point by blaming CEO's for America's problems.
Shame on you-please educate yourself.
GOPkicksbutt 3 months ago
@GOPkicksbutt I did educate myself. That's why I'm actually supporting my arguments with observable facts (none of which you refuted in any way) You should try doing the same before you act as a free spokesperson for giant corporations who don't give a flying rats ass about you.
sinistar99 3 months ago
@GOPkicksbutt Besides Bail out banks, cause recessions, screw the middle class and enrich the top 1% what have your fellow Republicans done? Democrats got us out of the Republican Great Depression, beat the Nazis (pubs didn't want to get involved), and put a man on the Moon. Tell me the great list of Republican accomplishments! It's ok when I was 17-18 I was a Republican too. Then I went to college.
sinistar99 3 months ago
@sinistar99 The republicans under Bush started the war on terror-a war that we are winning and is keeping America safe and sound. Because of our never ending fight against terror, our children will be safe and have great future ahead of them. Never forget-all the socialist government handouts are useless when a Muslim terrorist is cutting off your head. Next?!
GOPkicksbutt 3 months ago
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Ryan wants to give MORE tax breaks to the rich so they can build more factories overseas. This is a continuation of the Bush years where 8 million jobs were
outsourced. If this nigger has his way none of us will have jobs, health care, or social security! America deserves better!
Vetwolf13 9 months ago
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Ryan and the GOP believe in choices!! That's right-if they have their way senior citizens will have to make lots of choices - one choice they'll have to make will be between health care and food! SUCKERS!!!
Vetwolf13 9 months ago
yep....tax the rich! and sit back and watch the rest our jobs go overseas....sounds like a good fix to me.....I have worked for people whom I would consider "rich"...when they had more money to spend, I benefitted by getting more work and bigger bonuses.This "eat the rich" mentality is very ignorant.....
Galaxy2517 9 months ago
It's TIME to TAX the RICH $ make USA no.1
stringlov 10 months ago
@stringlov When will liberals understand that if you SEIZED all the Wealth and assets in this country your couldn't come CLOSE to paying off the federal Deficit....Tax the rich ? Seizing their wealth pays for the government spending for less than one day...
MetalDetroit 10 months ago
Pay for your own shit Ryan why do I have to pay for my Healthcare and yours Fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
xxGizmo05xx 10 months ago
That is one snotty bitch. I've never seen her before, and never wish to see her again.
Mongrul 11 months ago
Paul Ryan 2016
Thailur5194 11 months ago
P: Ron Paul and VP: Paul Ryan 2012
2846odlab 11 months ago
Is she a robot? A zombie? Lol.
twk373 1 year ago
ha, i wonder if she actually learned something from him or just dismissed it.
guyjohn59 1 year ago
When a Black man got on screen and said he'd like to continue while Paul is in Wisconsin Via satellite, Paul Ryan, speaking really articulately all throughout this interview stuttered, he stuttered mistaking that he heard the African American man say he'd like to continue the interview in Wisconsin with Paul Ryan. Made it look like he's not comfortable around African American people.
In my discernment, I've noticed that a sign of lying is stuttering - he's only another Rep vote splitter
firetruck270 1 year ago
@firetruck270 My bad, after reviewing again, I noticed he stutters under pressure, that's normal..
firetruck270 1 year ago
@firetruck270 That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Thailur5194 11 months ago
@firetruck270 What? This is the stupidiest comment I've read.
joenavpro1 10 months ago
Is anyone else disgusted by her condescending head nod at 0:15 ? There is nothing so irritating as an ignorant liberal that talks down to you.
GodotheInfantry 1 year ago
Paul Ryan is the future.
prisonermn 1 year ago
Mr. Ryan is a hack, an idealogue, and knows next to nothing about economics. He gets press as a man of ideas, but he's just recycling the trickle-down garbage that was discredited 150 years ago and keeps getting resurrected by corporatist clowns like himself. Unfortunately, lots of gullible people keep buying this crap...
darby7272 1 year ago
@darby7272
150 years ago! Wow that's a long time. So trickle down was driscredited in the 1860's. Never knew that before.
regelemihai 1 year ago
lets get behind paul ryan.... he is way smarter that than any of these clowns....and he owns these bufoons in such an amicable way..... he understands economics and makes high ranking dems look like fifth graders...PAUL RYAN for president.!!!
factsnotopinion 1 year ago
Paul Ryan is the Man!
Lonewolf3000X 1 year ago
Isn't the job of a reporter to just report and not get heated over a subject pushing his or her own agenda? if we ever seen media pushing political agendas....
It was refreshing to see how msnbc got brutally beaten on national tv, then the dude at the end intervenes to pull Ryan of the nearly corps.
Ramiromasters 1 year ago
So Katrina should had followed up by asking, ok you have private healthcare...now what is your salary??...because a portion of Americans work two or more jobs...just to maintain a living with a portion of their salary going to..Bills and in growing numbers....Debt..
Viewers.... this guy may have sound like he was on track....but the kind of coverage...he has....of course!!!... he can afford it.....if you had the power to vote on raising your salary...you can afford anything..think about that..
valetudo1974 1 year ago
This woman doesn't know what she is talking about, and does not have the courtesy to admit that she is mistaken. Ryan will be President, hopefully VERY soon!
Howie3709 1 year ago
Heller is my congressman, Nevada 2nd district
TheUnitedStatists 1 year ago
haha stuck it to that bitch
TheUnitedStatists 1 year ago
that man is so hot!!! hottest piece of ass on capital hill lol
AtTheMidnightHour 1 year ago
when katrina starts talking about the "denying competition", it's funny how paul ryan begins to smile. it's like he's licking his chops to destroy what she says. well done.
musiccritic10 1 year ago
I FREAKIN' LOVE THIS GUY! BTW...if Obamacare is so great why the Hell don't these guys want it??
j03cool 1 year ago
Rep. Paul is absolutely correct on this. One of the few Congressmen who makes sense.
TheStealth721 1 year ago
I love how MSNBC tries to take on Paul Ryan and he hands them their asses every time. Why the hell didn't we vote this guy into the presidency???
jbnwc 1 year ago
Man I wish this guy was the President.
longlivecrow 1 year ago
Can she be MORE obvious in trying to distort facts? MESSNBC.
clayp72 1 year ago
What? You expected better from MSLSD? Their ratings are through the toilet. I wonder why....
badger5566 1 year ago
Paul is the man of our day we need a lot more like him
bubba007ss 1 year ago 3
Paul Ryan mopped the floor with these guys.
"this is all about competition..." Mr. Ryan is correct pointing out the leftist word-play making it sound like single payor somehow magically encourages competition.
QuestionAuthority2 1 year ago 2
Ryan was pretty articulate and even keeled. She was out for blood but got shot down. I wonder how she is considered a journalist.
Thebboss 1 year ago
What a fucking dumb shit Paul Ryan is.
By saying that the private sector cannot compete with a public option he is admitting that the the Private for profit Payer system is so costly and inefficent that it is miserable failure.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
Yes, some people will be buried and that will be the democrats in November.... Let me guess your debate will be that States require people have car insurance?? Not the same,but go ahead and debate me you won't be the first and not the last... Give me your best shot.... BTW- ACORN is shutting down across the country....
barthunt1 1 year ago
@barthunt1 Well it's a year later and Republicans won a majority in the senate. How about all those improvements eh? And BTW ACORN is up and running and doing just fine thanks very much.
sinistar99 3 months ago
@genYprogressive Actually, the government will not be working in the interest of profit. Because of this, the Government is free to cut prices and either run a deficit and accumulate debt which is most likely, or break even. Because a government is capable of operating at a loss it can deliver the insurance lower. But the government runs on tax payer funds. As a result, taxes will either raise in other areas to hide shortfall or the program will run bankrupt. Like Medicare.
Thebboss 1 year ago 13
Nice try. Crooks like Paul Ryan will never mention the reason why Medicare is going broke. It is a goverment payer system that has to work throught the private for profit system unregulated.
Every other country that has the Canadian Single Payer model has the goverment use its purchasing powere to negotiate lower drug prices. The U.S. is the only country that doesnt do this. Furthermore Premiums are much more costly than the the taxes under sigle payer healthcare.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
@Thebboss Don't give me this bullshit about running at a loss we spend more on healthcare than any other country and tens of thousands are killed by insurace companys. Are you saying that you would rather pay $1400 in insurance premiums that an extra $200? Also Medicare Part D was desighned to have drug companys charge whatever they wanted, Paul Ryan and the Cons broke Medicare so they could say that it does not work. Are you aware that 62% of bankrupcys are from medical debt? Didn't thinks so.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
Yeah, that's what he said gilligan. Little buddy.
cano21 1 year ago
@genYprogressive Yes someone gets it. He contradicts himself blatantly --and reveals the hypocracy of the system he's protecting which benifits only a few and costs thousands of Americans their lives.
sinistar99 3 months ago
Lay off the crack pipe. Alan Grayson would pimp slap this bitch Paul Ryan silly.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
@genYprogressive, Alan Grayson is ALL mouth and NO brains.....
barthunt1 1 year ago
Grayson would stomp Paul Ryan, watch the video where he tore up Paul Broun over his lies about ACORN.
You don't want to debate healthcare. I will bury you.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
You a crackhead! Ryan would gangsta slap Grayson! Knock the cheese out his fat ass.
cano21 1 year ago
Do you want me to list all of the skeletons that Paul Ryan has. He has one gotcha questin at the healthcare summet, and now Paul Ryan is the Republicans Noam Chomsky.
I am beging you please run Paul Ryan for President in 2012.
Nobody asks him about his votes on banking in the fall of 2008.
Grayson would make very short work of Paul Ryan, Dennis Kucinich would as well.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
@genYprogressive There is not a congressman in Washington what would make short work of Ryan on a financial debate. There is not a congressman in Washington that could hold his jockstrap in a financial debate.
brownnate68 1 year ago
@brownnate68 I really hope that you are joking. Paul Ryan voted for Medicare Part D that wastes 350 billion a year. Kucinich and Grayson were not allowed at the Healthcare Summet. Google Paul Ryans Crazy Budget Graph, he has no credibility on finance. In a debate Dennis Kucinich would stomp a mudhole in Paul Ryan and walk it dry.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
@genYprogressive Get your facts straight. Medicare Part D is the only healthcare legislation thats performed below CBO cost estimates and saved money. Thats due to the fact that it was centered entirely around the free market...So stop put down the Kool Aid...and quit going to your Karl Marx Sunday school class
molloyboytoy 1 year ago
@molloyboytoy You think that Medicare Part D saves money? Did you go to school on the short bus or are you just dishonest. Part D was the Cons plan to make Medicare pay full retail price for drugs and procedures, so it would eventually go broke, and that would give Paul Ryan a excuse to privatize it. The VA pays $127 for a year supply of Zocor while Part D pays $1485. Part D made it illegal to get lower drug prices, something every other country that has better healthcare in the US does.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
@genYprogressive Read it and weep ...From a liberal newspaper...80% satisfaction rate among seniors and performing below cost estimates that passed the bill...So quit falling for the rhetoric....There is no doubt that in some cases seniors pay more for prescriptions...but look at the quality of healthcare the VA gives its atrocious they found rats living inside of the walter Reid and reported they were still using equipment from the 1960's...this bill has been succesful
molloyboytoy 1 year ago
@genYprogressive . ..Furthermore we're first in customer satisfaction compared to other countries and have the highest rate of secondary surgery success...Thats why over 60 percent of ppl want repeal
molloyboytoy 1 year ago
@molloyboytoy Yes customer satisfaction is at 80% now, down from when it was 93% 10 years ago. Still all 3 of the gov run programs run circles around the private insurance companys. United Health has a 90% dissatisfaction rate, and the top 10 are not far behind. The joke is on Paul Ryan, him saying that I have private insurance is meaningless in this argument because people with his income will have no problem paying for healthcare.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
@genYprogressive Source??? Healthcare isn't an inherent right...furthermore I refuse to pay for the healthcare of others...escpecially when its the goverment healthcare that contributes the most debt to the country...Furthermore private insurance satisfaction is above 84% (Rasmussen) therefore on the whole private insurance has a higher satisfaction rate than Canada and England where they have almost 70 percent dissatisfaction rates
molloyboytoy 1 year ago
@genYprogressive In addition, Part D only pays for about 20 prescriptions at high rates (Article I highlighted)...and the only reason the VA gets them so cheap is because I PAY FOR THEM...Which I refuse to do for anyone other than seniors and veterans....which explains why on the whole Part D was a good idea...and why 2/3 of the country agrees with me and Representative Ryan
molloyboytoy 1 year ago
@molloyboytoy If you want to look at customer satisfaction look at the goverment run care vs private insurance. In customer satisfaction TRICARE is 1 The VA is 2 and Medicare is 3. Give it up, Americas Healthcare is ranked 37th in the world because of these blood sucking insurance companys. Untll they put these leaches out of buisness and replaced with Single-Payer we will not have real healthcare. Do you still want to defend our failed system?
genYprogressive 1 year ago
@genYprogressive Tricare has also one of the lowest equipment and treatment standards....Sure it is because we dont treat it as a right plus we are a more violent country and have more deaths per year than any other country... I live in Mass and endure Romney care...which encompasses over 2/3 of the states debt and has quadrupled in cost since its implementation four years ago...Obama admitted it was the same plan ....therefore it will garner the same failing results
molloyboytoy 1 year ago
@molloyboytoy You live in Ma, well I live in Ca where Blue Cross had record profits for 2009. This year they have just jacked up premium rates 39% just because they could to punish the people in Ca for voeting for Single-Payer which the Gov vetoed.Paul Ryan opposes a public option for budget reasons but his plan is to use tax dollars to pay for-profit insurance companys to provide coverage. With Paul Ryans Blowjob for the insurance companys we will pay more and get less. This guy is a sick joke.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
@genYprogressive or get out of America and live in Canada or Europe...my suggestion would be Greece they have good government healthcare there
molloyboytoy 1 year ago
@molloyboytoy Greece was brought down by banks, not social programs, don't eve try playing that game.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
@genYprogressive We are the only country that has the highest rate of secondary and elective surgery success and the best primary care in the world...we lose face because of those that go uncovered which is why we need true capitalist reform to remove liberal regulation that's allowed this mess to be created..and highest satisfaction rates among people covered ...so America says cover the 12% instead of augmenting the care of 84-88% of those satisfied
molloyboytoy 1 year ago
@molloyboytoy We only the best coverage to the people that get access to it. Nobody that has for-profit insurance is satisfyed with it when they have to use it. United Health is the biggest insurance company and 90% of there customers hate them.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
@genYprogressive Lastly, should we also close macdonalds for making some of those people unhealthy...or should we destroy all business that require high risk menial labor such as coal mining, construction etc. millions die every year due to a myriad of things related to governments as well as business, governments through things like war, famine etc should we live in a communist society...no we take the good with the bad and realize that we are in the best situation possible
molloyboytoy 1 year ago
@molloyboytoy That is Apples and Oranges. Healthcare is a nessecity, McDonalds is not, I don't have to get my food from there but I need healthcare. There are 3 models of healthcare and the British NHS has been the most sucessful, and the most used. The Canadian Single-Payer model is also popular, and German non-profit private system. All of these models have been used by other countrys. How many countrys have copied the American for-profit system? ZERO.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
@genYprogressive No your equivocating death simply to lack of insurance...what about the contributing factors should they be shut down as well...health care isn't necessity where in our constitution is that dictated..the nhs in england and Canada have 70 percent dissatisfaction rates both are bankrupt...America isn't a socialist democracy hence a for profit system and a faster growing economy...and more individual success than the average European has the opportunity to enjoy
molloyboytoy 1 year ago
@molloyboytoy Listen to the Rhetoric now coming out of Germany and England Representatives like Daniel Hannon and Mark Cameron have my views...views with no previous traction in Europe and their winning elections all of a sudden...its a tacit admittance that their system is failing and needs to reduce it federal burden through privatization which yields no debt and provides services more efficiently and effectively
molloyboytoy 1 year ago