The 19 billion dollar fund was not a tax, it was a fund that they had to maintain in the event that the banks had a royal F* up again. That way the taxpayer wouldnt have to bail them out again. So essentially what scott brown is saying is.
"nah dont make them keep a fund...if it happens again, guess who will bail them out....the taxpayer." This guy is a joke. Get him out of office and stop voting for them till repubs form a REAL opposition party.
@boorens18. Yup. Right on the money. The overwhelming majority of Republicans are beholden to the big businesses that fill their political coffers. Same with Democrats as well. The problem is money in politics. Until we have elections that are paid for by the American people (cost is about $6 from each American), we won't see statespeople anymore. U have 2 raise so much $ nowadays 2 run 4 office that u can't unless ur hooked up w/some special interest.
How do I know this? because he is Blood related to George Bush, Cheney & Obama... the 13 Families run the world don't you know? well you should, look it up! they control both sides of everything, you are sheep to "them".
@IdiotsForObamaCom. Listen son, there hasn't been a real Republican in the Repub party since Barry Goldwater. The one REAL Republican that ran for office last time was Ron Paul. All the others were just sympathizers to the banksters and the corporatists.
Son? Im 42... and I disgree. We have Ron Paul, Jim Demint, Michelle Bachman, and we are about to add Jesse Kelly, Rand Paul and Allen West. be patient nigga. I wish Goldwater were running today! he was awesome.
This this whole mess started from 911 And its the same mafia who is playing pretend games while they are slowly executing the slow execution of the American People and their bill of rights. Wake up Please before its to late.
This guy is a fraud, If Rudy Juliane is standing right next to this man, this can only mean bad news for this country again. If they are such a patriots. Patriot Definition To defend this country from Foreign and Domestic Enemies. Than how come when faced with questions of 911 he gets this weird expression of fake smile with fear behind his eyes and dodges the question trying to exit the Arena. That is not what Patriot does.
obama is going to fail. in 2012 the economy will be worse just wait and see. we will see if obama is right 4 years should be enough for him to make change.
"If the American people ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency; the banks and corporations that grow up around them will deprive the people of all property; until their children wake up homeless on the continent their forefathers occupied." Thomas Jefferson. The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 is the time when America the dream died. The National Security Act of 1947 was the beginning of the end to liberty. Mind control and propaganda is the American diet.
Trickle down refers to providing tax cuts or other benefits. Here, the Senator is not arguing for a tax cut, but against Obama's plan to increase taxes on banks, which, by the way, are already taxed at the second highest rate in the world.
Brown's argument is based on the widely accepted notion among Economists that when the gov't taxes a corporation the corporation passes on the higher cost of business to consumers in the form of higher fees, reduced dividends, or job job layoffs.
Consumers all want to get "the lowest price." That's why Obama's plan to add taxes makes no sense.
Banks will simply pass the higher cost of business onto consumers. A bank that doesn't compensate by raising fees, will have to choose between reduced dividends or cutting jobs all of which negatively effects our economic ecosystem.
Moreover, Obama by targeting banks with higher taxes will reduce the amount of capital available to business.
Without banks, everyone who needed to borrow money would be forced to search about for someone who had just the right amount to loan, there wouldn't be much business. Furthermore, those who had money to loan would need to be acquainted in each case with the borrower's ability to repay the debt else there would be loss and ultimate ruin.
*Bank CEO: The big guys used to make about 1.5M yr, now around 950,000. Avg CEO starts at 65,000.
Lots of economic illiterates on the liberal side. They honestly don't see how burdening corporations with more taxes could have any adverse effects upon the the rest of the economy.
Don't like BANKS - Fight back! Payoff your mortgage. That word & the phrase "the American Dreamof Home Ownership", combined with "Compund Interest" were the worst thing for this Country.
Everyone should not by birth or some magical Liberal right be "ENTITLED" to Owning a home. That is a Myth created by Lib's & scheister Bankers to suck you into a mortgage (to the Death)
Work hard, save your $, buy the land, save some more, buy materials, build home & Shut up. Invest difference, Retire Loaded!
Without mortgages, many people would not be able to pursue home ownership. Without mortgages, the poor would remain poor and unable to pursue home ownership. It's not a perfect system but the idea of saving up an obscene amount of cash then making your purchase is something 99.99% of the people cannot do in a reasonable amount of time.
I agree with Senator Brown and disagree with you. A tax on banks would harm consumers because banks would pass on the higher cost of doing business by raising fees, reducing dividends, or letting people go.
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OBAMA'S PROPOSED BANK TAX WOULD HARM CONSUMERS
WASHINGTON (TheStreet) -- The Obama administration's crusade against outsized bank profits and bonuses could end up hurting the mass of struggling taxpayers it's ostensibly aimed at reimbursing....
Classic - Can't back up your argument, so you repsond back, immediately remove the comment by author & re-post it as a New Comment.
Braindead, parroting what you hear from the Lib Professors & passing it off as an 'original thought/idea'.
Without the bailout all of the TARP FUNDED BANKS would have failed, per capitalistic design. And, they should have Failed. Once they took the money & paid out enormous Bonuses to their top Exec's, they set themselves up for the Tax - period.
I too agree with Senator Brown (and ESG) and disagree with your jibberish.
A tax on banks will hurt consumers. Corporations, such as banks, pass the cost of taxes onto consumers. The bank will raise the prices or fire people or dividends will take a hit.
Taxes are not the answer! Government needs to get out of the way, and let the free market do its thing.
@Riverboatrun. Y don't u & ur buddy @jacksblack1 walk some signs saying "I luv Wall St. & the banksters & how they singlehandedly F-ed the USA" in ur neighborhood & C how much support u'll get. This POS & the other smelly POS Julianni R just mouthpieces 4 an industry that does NOTHING 2 actually put everyday blue collar, middle class Americans 2 work. All the banksters do is push paper. They don't manufacture, they don't make goods, they R usefull only 2 politicians like these lying scumbags.
@jacksblack1. Read ur comment above Einstein. "I do not need govt or any1 telling me how 2 run my business". What if u were a Wall St. clown & u were creating & selling the same derivatives that took down the economy without regulation? U don't even understand the blanketed tea party stupidity u spew. Of course we need to have govt there to PROTECT consumers from pollution & predatory business practices (amongst other things). These scumbags R betting on u pushing 4 deregulation again.
@JSAautomotive, You have no idea what you are saying and who you are saying it to. No one can comment on you because we dont know what you are talking about or what you stand for. You are taking too much medication and it is affecting you something awful. Stop and rest and forget what you are trying to do. It is not worth making you sound like retard is it? I can tell you this. I am a conservative and I am a veteran. I want my freedom. If you disagree with that then go screw yourself commy....
@jacksblack1. Nope, dont disagree w/what u want out of life...& yes, I know exactly who I'm talking to. Ur a Father thats just trying 2 provide a life 4 ur family. Thats noble in itself. I dont care if ur ex military, doesn't matter 2 me. If I had my way, we'd draft everytime we had a war so every1 had skin in the game. MayB then we wouldn't have these illegal 'pre-emptive' wars. The Sons of the American Revolution sounds like a good organization. Reminds me of the 'Sons of Liberty' of Sam Adams
@Riverboatrun. Free markets without logical regulation is what got us into this mess. Or don't you know what tanked the economy in Sept of 2007? Where do you guys come from. If you don't know what you're talking about, you should keep your opinions to yourself. This idiot is wanting to instill the same policies that got us into this mess in the 1st place.
@Riverboatrun Those banks made the mistakes in the first place and you're trying to justify passing the payment of these mistakes to the customers? Why can't they pay for it with a bonus freeze for high level executives instead of passing it along to the customer?
If anything, this tells me that the American people need to stop doing business with any bank that got bailout money with such a selfish attitude.
Again, classic, No discipline, No Focus,..still can't come up with anything, so you attempt to insult me me a Juvenile Comment & then Spam it so no one else can see what a FOOL you are.
Go have your time out now int the Corner & get a Hug from.....You see, int the Real World you take your Lumps & Bumps like a Man & when you Screw Up, you Pay up.
Again - the Banks took the $, too bad for the Investors & their Customers or Employees.
He won in a traditionally democratic state. One of the reasons he won is because he understands economic realities such as how corporate taxation is passed down to consumers.
I am sorry the candidate you feel bad that the candidate you supported lost. However, I am glad that we voted in a man that knows increasing corporate taxes is not the answer.
Amazing how many people miss the Big Picture. Whether (R) or (D) listen to what Brown stated re: his voting History of over 6,000 VOTES?
6,000 VOTES on what -Are you serious? Everything that State Legislatures & Congress does is anti-Constitutional. Nowhere within that document does it state that they are to continually Contrive ways to fuck every American over 24/7 with never ending Laws (miles high by now) designed in whole to bring back tyranny & Drain every American Dry..to the Poorhouse!
Barack Obama & Scott Brown Related - Genealogists at 'The New England Historic Genealogical Society' have figured out that President Barack Obama and Massachusetts newly elected Senator Scott Brown are related. Barack Obama has lost his democrat filibuster proof majority in congress to family. Small world isn't it!
You must have missed the schooling Obama gave the GOP in Baltimore on Jan 29 and, just today in New Hampshire. People are starting to wake up to the GOP lies. Remember, November is a ways away. Not to mention. I don;t believe Scott Brown will be like the Party of No. He already told them that recently. Now that Obama made it clear also he will use his Veto Power. Along with the Reconcilitation Clause. He will nedd less than 55 if necessary. Now Obama is learning how to play hardball. Omentum
speaking of campaign financing, I"m running for congress and accepting NO DONATIONS from anywhere. My videos are low budget (no budget) and explain how this should be done. I'd be much obliged if you would critique them.
speaking of campaign financing, I"m running for congress and accepting NO DONATIONS from anywhere. My videos are low budget (no budget) and explain how this should be done. I'd be much obliged if you would critique them.
Stubborn liberal Obama still pursues his unpopular, costly healthcare reform even after the people of Massachusetts spoke against it. And he never wants to enforce immigration laws so illegal immigrants can keep receiving welfare and healthcare benefits like Obama's aunt Zeituni Onyango, an illegal immigrant from Kenya. In fact, Obama, with his immigration reform, wants to naturalize twelve million illegal immigrants so they can get healthcare insurance and vote for his Democratic Party.
The fact that he's standing there with Giuliani is enough to tell me what this guy's all about. Giuliani is as much a criminal as any person involved in 911. I think they'd both look good in handcuffs.
I personally don't find your belief that a tax on banks is a good thing for consumers persuasive. I also think most orthodox economists, bankers, investors*, and MA voters would DISAGREE with you.
Most non-Marxist hold that corporations such as banks would pass taxes on in the form of higher fees, decreased dividends, or cutting jobs.
*recent poll found 77% of investors think Obama is anti-business.
Congratulations SENATOR ELECT BROWN ! Helped Accomplished ALL of the Above and hasnt even been Seated Yet !!! SENATOR SCOTT BROWN,Good For America ! God Bless
The issue is whether a tax placed upon banks in effect amounts to a tax on consumers.(See title of video). Senator Brown is correct in understanding that corporations when taxed compensate by higher fees, lower dividends, or laying off workers. It is like squeezing a balloon. Squeeze one end and it gets bigger on the other end squeeze too hard and it breaks.
As to bailout repayment. No bailouts should have been made in the first place. Contracts however once agreed to should be honored.
What Scott doesn't admit is that in a capitalistic society, the banks can't pass on the costs if that would lead to them damaging their competitive standing. Customers would go to another bank. They could stiff their shareholders but then those shareholders could sell their stock and invest in another company. See. You want capitalism to work but you don't know what it is.
Where is the consumer going to run? Obama wants to tax ALL U.S. banks. Some banks may raise fees, others may cut jobs, others may reduce dividends, but one way or the other the people ultimately are going to end up being the ones who get hurt.
Corporations do not pay taxes one way or the other they just pass the increased cost onto consumers.
The tax/fees are based on the amount of debt to equity ratio the banks have on their balance sheets (remember those?) The smaller banks will pay significantly less in fees while the overexposed banks...the ones that got the most bailout money....will suffer the most.
So fuck yourself you fascist dogfucking republican teabagging suckdicker!
What happened when the federal tax on cigarettes increased? The price of cigs went up. When taxes, fees or fines go up, the consumer pays. Conversely, if you lower corporate taxes and fees, prices will go down. Raise them, and prices will go up--just what is NOT needed in the middle of a two year recession.
Cig's are taxed beyond all reason to satisfy the Liberal Agenda to control evertyhing People, Think, Say and Do - just don't apply any of their rhetoric or bullshit to them as they are above it all!
There is no God because in the dysfucntional LIBERAL MIND, they are GOD. Lets impose a Carbon Tax on the Hot Air Spewing from their Mouths.
Next on their agenda - Banning Smoking in Private Residences, your Own Home. When they pass that, next it'll be how many Kids you can have ala CHINA!
If a tax is levied on a corporation, and if it is to survive, it must raise the price of its product, or lower dividends or lay off workers. In each case, it is people, not some legal fiction called a corporation, who bear the burden of any tax levied on the corporation. (An important subject area in economics called tax incidence says that the entity upon whom a tax is levied does not necessarily bear the burden of the tax).
okay. to use your logic....then the banks shouldn't pay back the money given to them by the taxpayers since that will also be passed on to the consumers.
but wait...we are a consumer based economy. so maybe we should not pay bank the banks the money we owe them so that we can spend it on goods and services to keep the economy going?
Now how do the banks pay back the money without sticking it to their customers, laid off workers, or higher costs?
Don't forget that we have competition so that any fees banks charge consumers would possible make them lose those consumers to a bank that doesn't charge those fees. Same as investors.
Just shot yourself in the Foot! Sounds like you just got out of a Lib Professors class, you know - one who never spent a Day in His of Her life in the Private Sector.
Repeat all you want - the fact is, the legal fiction called a Corporation does not effect "all Consumers". If you don't own their stock, don't purchase their goods or are not an employee, then who thell cares if they go out of Business, that's how it works. Net Impact to Consumer = Zero. And yes, BANKS should Fail
The big banks had plenty of money to give out big billion$ bonuses in 2009, just no money to lend out or pay a small extra tax to the government to fund 2 wars.
The big banks taxes were dramatically cut by Bush in 2003, and yet big bank fees have doubled since then. So not only did the big banks get more of your money in fees, but the big banks were rewarded for doing so by paying less in taxes.
Last week, USA today published an article stating that US corporations had already contributed 16 MILLION DOLLARS toward aid for the victims of the earthquake in Hati.
Yes, evil corporations such as Wal Mart, Microsoft, and UPS are giving MILLIONS in charity. They also provide goods that people want, jobs, and pay taxes that maintain our economy.
Let me tell you who "builds things" in this country you mindless fuckwit.
The man in the farm field and the man on the shop floor. The man your wealthy bitch forgot about when he shipped the real builder's job to china and then ducked out of paying taxes on the income.
You are shilling for a bunch of scamming tax cheats because you think they're going to put religion in schools for you. Don't you look silly about now.... Scammed by the people you shill for.
Illiterate hillbilly neo-nazi morons like yourself are the precise reason I had to leave the GOP... what an intelligent response, typical mindless clown thinking you are part of the gop country club...
tell me can you think of anything on your own or are just going to quote Mike Savage all day... fyi did you know that mikie is a fucking queer? Yes he really is!! You're in love with a gay man, how does that make you feel? Tony cook is a fucking half witted fool........
I would agree with that analysis and it really is evidenced by this "bank tax" stupidity. Liberals correctly always say that banks and richies pay no taxes because they pass them all on to the rest of us, but yet the liberals always want to raise these taxes that they already admit richies and banks are not paying, which is proof of mental disorder. All banks are going to do is fire employees and raise fees on customers to pay the "bank tax." Scott Brown is right again and wil save us from it
Scott Brown oh yeah baby is here to change washington!!! hahahaha.. you're really a funny guy you know that? We had a great progressive tax system in place with a strong middle class before reagan was sworn in. The only mental disorder here is you and all the right wing kool aid you drink. Sober up and please enter repucklican rehab, I'm starting classes soon. You would be a good candidate.
Blah, blah lefty goon you know nothing including that I am not even a Rebublican, but I am glad that you are starting rehab classes soon since you are clearly on too many drugs. We had stagflation and permanent economic depression before Reagan fixed every thing and made it better. You say I drink right wing Kool aid and I say you drink left wing kool aid, so what. You are a funny guy, but I will not mock your sexual preference or violate the don't ask, don't tell policy your party created.
Good god, I think you did one to many drugs... Reagan fucked everything up everything! 8 consecutive years of deficits 2 major stock crashes, remember black monday 87??? Or did you forget that one?
I plan on ignoring your moronic Marxist butt after this, but I had to rip this dumb statement of yours. Conservatives are stupid, but lefties expect Barrack Hussein whose administration is filled with rich bankers and whose campaign was funded by the rich bankers to punish the rich bankers. Conservatives are stupid, but it was all liberals who voted to bail out the rich bankers with the money of the poor and now they claim they are going to tax all that money back from the banks, which is nuts
You know you're right with the rich bankers....this is why he will fail just like the child bush... he needs to get rid of Summers and Geitner both are crooks! They are no different from the gop assholes. Why do you think nothing changes??? Because they wont let him, Wall Street owns our Govt! And maybe you should study marxism since obviously you know shit about it. Marxism worked until it was bastardized by a corrupt govt!
MA voter for Brown but against MA universal HC mandate. It is very unfair. We pay higher premiums and get less coverage. Then sales tax went up in MA. It is BAD for MA it is BAD for Country!
I hate to say it, but a bank tax will not ultimately be paid by the people. ATM fees can go up 500%, I still dont take money out of an ATM thats not my bank. If my bank imposed extra fees on nonsense, I would switch to another bank. As for interest rates, they are controlled by the market, not the banks. These banks should of failed but isntead used an interest free loan from the taxpayer. In the end, taxing everyone is not the solution anyway. Dems still dont get it.
What the hell is going on here? While no one could claim American politics has been boring at the start of the 21st century (remember Florida?), I worry that the pendulums has swung too far to the "pretty" candidates in a reckless display of beauty over substance. I learned today that Massachusetts' Senator-elect, SCOTT Brown was a model and won Cosmopolitan Magazine's "America's Sexiest Man" contest in 1982. This brings up an odd nexus with 2008 Republican V.P. nominee, Sarah Louise HEATH PALIN
Former Alaska half-term governor, Sarah Louise HEATH PALIN, was born FEBRUARY 11, 1964. The date was the 28th birthday of Hollywood actor Burton LEOn "Burt" Reynolds, Jr. Like Scott Brown, Burt REYnOLDs famously posed nude for Cosmopolitan Magazine--ten years earlier in 1972--on a bearskin rug. Then consider Sarah PALIN's history in beauty pageant competition and it might be time to ponder whether a race of aliens is sending himbo / bimbo candidates to Earth in an effort to destroy the planet
The economy is in the ruins and we have an extreme leftist president who hasn't ever ran a business and has never had to meet a payroll running the economy for us. He has never shot a bb gun, yet he is commander in cheif yet he always claims he "gets it". Am I the only one who sees a problem with this picture? Just wondering, because nobody ever brings these points up. And all liberals out there, don't give me the same old "Bush did it" rhetoric. Its been over a year now without "change"
I am assuming you are in that state, I am not and I spent 20 minutes online looking for his state senatorial voting record to no avail. The only thinG I can say is: HOLD HIS FEET TO THE FIRE! LET THESE GUYS KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO LIVE IN THE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC ANYMORE! FOR OTHER NOT YET AWAKE, READING THIS BETWEEN US: ISMS TYPE COUNTRIES ALWAYS CALL THEMSELVES PEOPLES SOCIAL DEMOMCRATIC REPUBLIC ETC. AND ARE ANYTHING BUT. BURN THOSE FEET! 1MO THING UK/US BANKS SUCK
Oh fuckin' A... I'm now just listening to Obama's NEW speech in full. He's back-peddling and trying to save his own ass... JUST PATHETIC!
Simply Pa-fuckin' leftist-thetic!!!
What a disgrace this "Ego has Landed" screwball has been...
Cmon man... blame it all on Rush..
MASS-AFUCKIN'-CHUSETTS, the bluest of blue states just elected a fuckin' Conservative.. and the ridiculous Bamster KNOWS that was a direct shot at him!! YES!!! directly at him and his stretch-face Pelosi!!!!!!
It's amazing how such a common-sense issue escapes so many democrats. It's main street who ultimately will pay for it if they punish the banks. We're all in this economy together.
Well put! Taxing the rich (banks, institutions, corporations, millionaires, etc) is just 'feel-good' legislation. In the end, the rich do not absorb these fees; they simply pass them on down the socio-economic ladder, to be paid by you and me.
Does anyone really think that his doctor, lawyer, dentist, banker, etc, is going to just eat any increase in his taxes? No! He's not going to lower his standard of living. He's going to pass that increase on to you, in the form of higher fees.
Being the minority in Washington seems to work great for the Republicans. They can talk all the shit they want and still act like victims. Careful, Scott, if you guys reclaim congress or the white house you might run the risk of actually doing something, and once again exposing yourselves for the frauds you are.
Btw... Bamster just made YET another speech where he blamed his reckless taxing and spending on Bush.. America isn't falling for the radical left anymore.. they're great at spending other people's money for their social agendas... but..
Obama: "Damn it! I shouldn't have insulted those Cambridge policemen.. my speeches aren't working anymore..and I bet that fugly Botox bitch Pelosi's gonna be callin' any second."
my FELLOW MAINSTREETERS...WITH BUSH,,, WALL STREET RAPED US....WITH BAMA,,,WALL STREET CONTINUES TO RAPE US....AND AND,,,,we get HITLER NAZI HEALTHCARE NOBODY WANTS BUT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND GREEN HITLER NAZI PROGRAMS THAT WILL WRECK US....DIVIDED GOVT is the only hope.......frankly,I HATE ALL POLITICIANS, they are all worthless PARASITES.
The subject is New Bank fees that the Marxist Dems want to impose to the banks to "punish them" when in reality they pass it on to us..this is the current democratic party genius..hope you didn't vote for Obama
Answer, Before 1910 we grew into a very wealthy and powerful nation in just a short time, why. capitalism without shackles and government control that we have today, No such thing as all the fees and taxes we see today and the useless regulations that do nothing but drive up cost and suffocate business. More freedom is what we need as people and business. Erosion of freedom is why we are seeing our nation suffer and go bankrupt. WE ARE BANKRUPT....
Correction, America's economy flourished during the slave trades.
"Turning the bull loose" may be good for business, but that simply leads to lawless profiteering. During Reagan's time, jobs were created, but many more people were also laid off. As the gap between rich and poor grew, the economy became more and more unstable. And so, here we are.
Tax cuts for the rich are only going to generate temporary profits. Focus should be on the workers and their productivity.
Of course. Freedom to hoard wealth, freedom to spread fear and hatred, freedom to invade, freedom to starve, freedom to...
But you're also free to be scorned if you're gay, free to be hated if you're an atheist, free to "keep that baby or go to hell," free to do labor at a pathetic minimum wage, free to stay sick, free to stay in debt, free to go into debt, free to live in fear that healthcare is actually a government plot to take away your guns and bible...
@amielrox You are out of your mind. How is taking "MY" guns away freedom? You are just wanting to talk jibberish. Enough already. F R E E D O M . I am a disabled veteran and so in my father. I am a memeber of the Sons of the American Revolution. People shed blood for F R E E D O M. LEt it not be in vain. Freedom for the people. Not freedom to break the constitution or any laws. But F R E E D O M from tyranny. I do not need government or anyone telling me how to run my business .
However, THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS. Gun control isn't gun confiscation, Rambo. Breaking laws and constitution? Tell that to Bush and his so-called "PATRIOT" act.
Now, I won't argue any further. You're a war veteran and a war hero and I won't attack your views any further, as long as you stop attacking mine.
@jacksblack1. Y don't u & ur buddy @riverboatrun walk some signs saying "I luv Wall St. & the banksters & how they singlehandedly F-ed the USA" in ur neighborhood & C how much support u'll get. This POS & the other smelly POS Julianni R just mouthpieces 4 an industry that does NOTHING 2 actually put everyday blue collar, middle class Americans 2 work. All the banksters do is push paper. They don't manufacture, they don't make goods, they R usefull only 2 politicians like these lying scumbags.
@jacksblack1. During WWII, people didnt brag about being ex-military. People didn't do this constant thanking people 4 their "service". Every1 understood in my dads day that if u got called 2 war, u went. Period. End of story. & when u came back, u went back 2 ur normal life. It was part of being an American & defending the Constitution. 2day, we violate the Constitution everyday were in the middle east w/no declaration of war. Nobody has a backbone anymore. Every1 is scared of being attacked
@JSAautomotive Well, since all that are in the military now are voluntary, I do thank them and appreciate them since they did not have to go, they chose to join the military. BIG DIFFERENCE. Others choose not to. That is ok but I do thank those that volunteered. If your dad was not drafted, would he have volunteered? Maybe not. So you are comparing apples to oranges. Stop posting comments after you take a hit of pot. Please, you are wasted.
@jacksblack1. Yawn. 1 of my best friends who's Delta (just retired recently) has no issues w/pot smokers as we used 2 party together when we were kids. He can drink like a fish too. MayB u should do a little pot, it might help ur grammar w/saying "ain't" so much. Hillbilly. Yes, I've watched ur videos there Shakespeare. Sometimes I wonder which language you're speaking. I'm guessing grammar & English weren't ur strong point in school. MayB thats Y u joined the military & R now a truck driver.
or got deferments (like Rush, Cheney, Rumsfeld & a whole host of Chicken Hawks), then I got a problem w/u. Just like I have a prob w/offshore military bases (like in Germany) that don't need 2B there. They basically serve as a party cruise 4 military guys that never saw 1 day of combat. Look at R Fed budget, over 1/2 goes 2 the military. Its ridiculous. If we closed all those bases tomorrow, we'd be out of the red fiscally. "The military" is sucking us dry, same w/2 needless wars in the mideast.
@jacksblack1. I'm neutral on the military. R forefathers felt that we shouldnt have a standing army during peacetime. I concur w/Eisenhower in regards 2 the "Military Industrial Complex". U know? That 5 star General & Supreme Commander during WWII? Joining the military during peacetime doesn't impress me. If thats what u want 2 do, thats ur deal. 2 "volunteer" is 2 not receive a pay. Being military is a paid JOB. The only Constitutional requirement is 2 report 4 a draft. If ur a draft dodger,
@JSAautomotive I will let your statement speak for itself. Only a fool will argue with a fool. All anyone has to do is to read what you just wrote. I could shred you on several counts. IS it worth it? No.... You are blind and will never see.....Just tell that to all the other standing armies that train day in and day out and want to take this little republic from us if ever the chance shall arise. Please, I have better things to do than to go back and forth with you. I beg of you. Get a life.
@jacksblack1. If I'm a fool, then u don't understand the Constitution or the what the Framers original intentions were. We don't need 2B the worlds police. The Constitution is clear when it comes to acts of war, it must B a nation that attacks us. Pre-emptive war or policing the world is not covered by the Constitution. Period. If ur such a coward that ur not willing 2 defend R country ON OUR OWN SOIL, then let the facts stand 4 themselves. You're a coward, and that is completely obvious to me.
@JSAautomotive You just screwed yourself. I am going to turn this over to MCEP and the whole gang of Wolfpack. I cant wait for them to see the part where your fag ass called me a coward. My multiple tour disabled wartime veteran is called a coward by a brain dead freak like you. You have no clue who you are talking too and you have no idea why you are telling me anything. I know that you have now fucked up. Go ahead and click on jacksblack1 and maybe you will find out a little. You retard....
@jacksblack1. I clicked. Didn't see anything son & I stand by what I said here hillbilly boy. Just a warning, this lib hippie is armed 2 the teeth. & lets just say my current job allows me carry a fully loaded weapon at all times just in case some crazy feller on utube wants 2 stalk me. Heh..heh. By the way? That video of ur 10 yr old son? Is that tattoo on his arm? & is that u using the F word in the video? Classy! What kind of a dad R U?
@JSAautomotive Are you a psycho? I am still trying to figure out why you started messing with black1 in the first place. It is clear that you have problems. Do you have anything else better to do? Go play with your Piper... Geez, The fumes are getting to you......
@JSAautomotive Do you even know why you are commeting to me? I have no idea. I never commented to you ever until you posted something to me that madew no since. But you go on and on and on and now you really done it. A coward your hippie ass says to me. I am decorated and served my country during many tours and 2 overseas ribbons and disabled from my patriotic service to this Country. You are not worth my time. You are a hippie and really, an idiot. Leave me the hell alone.. Your name posted now
@jacksblack1. Ah yes, I knew it would come 2 this. U ex-military R types R so predictable. How did u serve ur country there hillbilly? Did u get shot in the ass while doing KP after a barf session from partying at Octoberfest? I've got more courage in my pinky that uve got in ur whole body son. U should just go play w/all the little girls now. Run along. Before u scrape ur knee & go crying to ur mama.
@JSAautomotive i would be so glad to swap address and phone numbers so we could have a little get together if you dont mind. please, I beg of you. We can catch up on old times. Please dont play any games going back and forth. I am serious. As long as you are in the continental US, I can meet you anywhere. You seem like a real tough person so this should be a cake walk for you right? You arent afraid of me I know so oblige me and lets us get together.....
@JSAautomotive let me make sure i got it straight. You are Piper Tech/LAPD Garage. 555 E. Ramirez Street, Los. Angeles, California. When I get there, just make sure I park in the area thats designated for the public? Just ask for Griz when I get to the LAPD garage office, everyone knows who you are? Not too far from Bakersfield. Great......Have coffee waiting....
@jacksblack1. Like I said, make sure you email me before you show up. And if you're willing to sign a release, I'll take you to a boxing ring so you can take our ur frustrations on somebody. Ok tough guy?
@jacksblack1. Sounds good son. Piper Tech/LAPD Garage. 555 E. Ramirez Street, Los. Angeles, Ca. When you get there, just make sure you park in the area thats designated for the public. Just ask for Griz when u get to the LAPD garage office, everyone knows who I am. Email me here when you're in town so I know to expect you.
It's true, I make around $15 a day with AdSense from my blogs... It's easier to use the technique I found at ez-casino(dot)com, though...
gingerSweetauiz 1 year ago
The 19 billion dollar fund was not a tax, it was a fund that they had to maintain in the event that the banks had a royal F* up again. That way the taxpayer wouldnt have to bail them out again. So essentially what scott brown is saying is.
"nah dont make them keep a fund...if it happens again, guess who will bail them out....the taxpayer." This guy is a joke. Get him out of office and stop voting for them till repubs form a REAL opposition party.
boorens18 1 year ago
@boorens18. Yup. Right on the money. The overwhelming majority of Republicans are beholden to the big businesses that fill their political coffers. Same with Democrats as well. The problem is money in politics. Until we have elections that are paid for by the American people (cost is about $6 from each American), we won't see statespeople anymore. U have 2 raise so much $ nowadays 2 run 4 office that u can't unless ur hooked up w/some special interest.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
you are looking at the next president of the U.S.
How do I know this? because he is Blood related to George Bush, Cheney & Obama... the 13 Families run the world don't you know? well you should, look it up! they control both sides of everything, you are sheep to "them".
servicetradescom 1 year ago
S C U M B A G- FAKE ASS REPUBLICAN. ANOTHER RINO COWARD. see IDIOTS4OBAMA com for more.
IdiotsForObamaCom 1 year ago
@IdiotsForObamaCom. Listen son, there hasn't been a real Republican in the Repub party since Barry Goldwater. The one REAL Republican that ran for office last time was Ron Paul. All the others were just sympathizers to the banksters and the corporatists.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
Son? Im 42... and I disgree. We have Ron Paul, Jim Demint, Michelle Bachman, and we are about to add Jesse Kelly, Rand Paul and Allen West. be patient nigga. I wish Goldwater were running today! he was awesome.
IdiotsForObamaCom 1 year ago
I'd like to see him naked. Again...
ch1aka2 1 year ago
This this whole mess started from 911 And its the same mafia who is playing pretend games while they are slowly executing the slow execution of the American People and their bill of rights. Wake up Please before its to late.
ObeeLektro 2 years ago
This guy is a fraud, If Rudy Juliane is standing right next to this man, this can only mean bad news for this country again. If they are such a patriots. Patriot Definition To defend this country from Foreign and Domestic Enemies. Than how come when faced with questions of 911 he gets this weird expression of fake smile with fear behind his eyes and dodges the question trying to exit the Arena. That is not what Patriot does.
ObeeLektro 2 years ago
obama is going to fail. in 2012 the economy will be worse just wait and see. we will see if obama is right 4 years should be enough for him to make change.
MrDuarte59 2 years ago
Scott brown is a neocon and a fraud.
a piece of shit.
no different than the dangerous liberals.
jmjfanss 2 years ago
Cons broke everything and got everything wrong. Now we are suppose to believe they suddenly know what they are talking about. Sure they do.
tom6612 2 years ago
"If the American people ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency; the banks and corporations that grow up around them will deprive the people of all property; until their children wake up homeless on the continent their forefathers occupied." Thomas Jefferson. The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 is the time when America the dream died. The National Security Act of 1947 was the beginning of the end to liberty. Mind control and propaganda is the American diet.
HostileNegotiator 2 years ago
Brown is the right wing's nigger!
unclelight 2 years ago
seems like controlled opposition. Especially with rudy on his shoulder. This guy is gonna be like every other republicrat...just wait and see.
thefetalbomber 2 years ago
@Loon
Trickle down refers to providing tax cuts or other benefits. Here, the Senator is not arguing for a tax cut, but against Obama's plan to increase taxes on banks, which, by the way, are already taxed at the second highest rate in the world.
Brown's argument is based on the widely accepted notion among Economists that when the gov't taxes a corporation the corporation passes on the higher cost of business to consumers in the form of higher fees, reduced dividends, or job job layoffs.
esj8341 2 years ago
Brown still believes in "trickle down" economics which has been proven twice to not work.
He's an idiot.
loonmaniac 2 years ago
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esj8341 2 years ago
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esj8341 2 years ago
Yeah, but people tend to look for competitive pricing, I don't care how much in taxes they pay, I look for lowest price. The free market.
loonmaniac 2 years ago
You make Senator Brown's point.
Consumers all want to get "the lowest price." That's why Obama's plan to add taxes makes no sense.
Banks will simply pass the higher cost of business onto consumers. A bank that doesn't compensate by raising fees, will have to choose between reduced dividends or cutting jobs all of which negatively effects our economic ecosystem.
Moreover, Obama by targeting banks with higher taxes will reduce the amount of capital available to business.
esj8341 2 years ago
Banks can go shit as far as I'm concerned, they've screwed the American people long enough.
Bank CEOs need to be dragged through the streets by their ankles.
loonmaniac 2 years ago
@Loon
(sigh)
Without banks, everyone who needed to borrow money would be forced to search about for someone who had just the right amount to loan, there wouldn't be much business. Furthermore, those who had money to loan would need to be acquainted in each case with the borrower's ability to repay the debt else there would be loss and ultimate ruin.
*Bank CEO: The big guys used to make about 1.5M yr, now around 950,000. Avg CEO starts at 65,000.
Now, guess what avg NBA player makes.
esj8341 2 years ago
Actually, that's not right, bank CEOs and their boards of directors need to be dragged through the streets then hanged on lampposts.
loonmaniac 2 years ago
@loonmaniac So agree, tyrants...death to tyranny and freedom to the people. I think we can do without senators too. LOL. Ineffectual elitists.
HostileNegotiator 2 years ago
Move to Somalia, then, anarchist.
loonmaniac 2 years ago
@Boat
Lots of economic illiterates on the liberal side. They honestly don't see how burdening corporations with more taxes could have any adverse effects upon the the rest of the economy.
FourCornersPlus 2 years ago
Don't like BANKS - Fight back! Payoff your mortgage. That word & the phrase "the American Dreamof Home Ownership", combined with "Compund Interest" were the worst thing for this Country.
Everyone should not by birth or some magical Liberal right be "ENTITLED" to Owning a home. That is a Myth created by Lib's & scheister Bankers to suck you into a mortgage (to the Death)
Work hard, save your $, buy the land, save some more, buy materials, build home & Shut up. Invest difference, Retire Loaded!
scratchgolf923 2 years ago
Without mortgages, many people would not be able to pursue home ownership. Without mortgages, the poor would remain poor and unable to pursue home ownership. It's not a perfect system but the idea of saving up an obscene amount of cash then making your purchase is something 99.99% of the people cannot do in a reasonable amount of time.
madhatter0110 2 years ago
I agree with Senator Brown and disagree with you. A tax on banks would harm consumers because banks would pass on the higher cost of doing business by raising fees, reducing dividends, or letting people go.
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OBAMA'S PROPOSED BANK TAX WOULD HARM CONSUMERS
WASHINGTON (TheStreet) -- The Obama administration's crusade against outsized bank profits and bonuses could end up hurting the mass of struggling taxpayers it's ostensibly aimed at reimbursing....
esj8341 2 years ago
Classic - Can't back up your argument, so you repsond back, immediately remove the comment by author & re-post it as a New Comment.
Braindead, parroting what you hear from the Lib Professors & passing it off as an 'original thought/idea'.
Without the bailout all of the TARP FUNDED BANKS would have failed, per capitalistic design. And, they should have Failed. Once they took the money & paid out enormous Bonuses to their top Exec's, they set themselves up for the Tax - period.
scratchgolf923 2 years ago
@Snatch,
I too agree with Senator Brown (and ESG) and disagree with your jibberish.
A tax on banks will hurt consumers. Corporations, such as banks, pass the cost of taxes onto consumers. The bank will raise the prices or fire people or dividends will take a hit.
Taxes are not the answer! Government needs to get out of the way, and let the free market do its thing.
Riverboatrun 2 years ago 3
@Riverboatrun Than you want a 2nd great depression.
joseph591 1 year ago
@Riverboatrun. Y don't u & ur buddy @jacksblack1 walk some signs saying "I luv Wall St. & the banksters & how they singlehandedly F-ed the USA" in ur neighborhood & C how much support u'll get. This POS & the other smelly POS Julianni R just mouthpieces 4 an industry that does NOTHING 2 actually put everyday blue collar, middle class Americans 2 work. All the banksters do is push paper. They don't manufacture, they don't make goods, they R usefull only 2 politicians like these lying scumbags.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@JSAautomotive What in the Hell are you talking about? Where do you get the notion that I love Wall Street? Are you a pothead or a crackhead?
jacksblack1 1 year ago
@jacksblack1. Read ur comment above Einstein. "I do not need govt or any1 telling me how 2 run my business". What if u were a Wall St. clown & u were creating & selling the same derivatives that took down the economy without regulation? U don't even understand the blanketed tea party stupidity u spew. Of course we need to have govt there to PROTECT consumers from pollution & predatory business practices (amongst other things). These scumbags R betting on u pushing 4 deregulation again.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@JSAautomotive, You have no idea what you are saying and who you are saying it to. No one can comment on you because we dont know what you are talking about or what you stand for. You are taking too much medication and it is affecting you something awful. Stop and rest and forget what you are trying to do. It is not worth making you sound like retard is it? I can tell you this. I am a conservative and I am a veteran. I want my freedom. If you disagree with that then go screw yourself commy....
jacksblack1 1 year ago
@jacksblack1. Nope, dont disagree w/what u want out of life...& yes, I know exactly who I'm talking to. Ur a Father thats just trying 2 provide a life 4 ur family. Thats noble in itself. I dont care if ur ex military, doesn't matter 2 me. If I had my way, we'd draft everytime we had a war so every1 had skin in the game. MayB then we wouldn't have these illegal 'pre-emptive' wars. The Sons of the American Revolution sounds like a good organization. Reminds me of the 'Sons of Liberty' of Sam Adams
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@Riverboatrun. Free markets without logical regulation is what got us into this mess. Or don't you know what tanked the economy in Sept of 2007? Where do you guys come from. If you don't know what you're talking about, you should keep your opinions to yourself. This idiot is wanting to instill the same policies that got us into this mess in the 1st place.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@Riverboatrun Let the free market do its thing, which was run our economy to the ground, at a screeching halt.
1nglewattz1 1 year ago
@Riverboatrun Those banks made the mistakes in the first place and you're trying to justify passing the payment of these mistakes to the customers? Why can't they pay for it with a bonus freeze for high level executives instead of passing it along to the customer?
If anything, this tells me that the American people need to stop doing business with any bank that got bailout money with such a selfish attitude.
Scipio2021 1 year ago 2
Again, classic, No discipline, No Focus,..still can't come up with anything, so you attempt to insult me me a Juvenile Comment & then Spam it so no one else can see what a FOOL you are.
Go have your time out now int the Corner & get a Hug from.....You see, int the Real World you take your Lumps & Bumps like a Man & when you Screw Up, you Pay up.
Again - the Banks took the $, too bad for the Investors & their Customers or Employees.
You want to have it both ways & you can't
BOO HOO
scratchgolf923 2 years ago
Scratch,
Scott Brown WON.
He won in a traditionally democratic state. One of the reasons he won is because he understands economic realities such as how corporate taxation is passed down to consumers.
I am sorry the candidate you feel bad that the candidate you supported lost. However, I am glad that we voted in a man that knows increasing corporate taxes is not the answer.
esj8341 2 years ago
Amazing how many people miss the Big Picture. Whether (R) or (D) listen to what Brown stated re: his voting History of over 6,000 VOTES?
6,000 VOTES on what -Are you serious? Everything that State Legislatures & Congress does is anti-Constitutional. Nowhere within that document does it state that they are to continually Contrive ways to fuck every American over 24/7 with never ending Laws (miles high by now) designed in whole to bring back tyranny & Drain every American Dry..to the Poorhouse!
scratchgolf923 2 years ago
Barack Obama & Scott Brown Related - Genealogists at 'The New England Historic Genealogical Society' have figured out that President Barack Obama and Massachusetts newly elected Senator Scott Brown are related. Barack Obama has lost his democrat filibuster proof majority in congress to family. Small world isn't it!
LuthierGod 2 years ago
You must have missed the schooling Obama gave the GOP in Baltimore on Jan 29 and, just today in New Hampshire. People are starting to wake up to the GOP lies. Remember, November is a ways away. Not to mention. I don;t believe Scott Brown will be like the Party of No. He already told them that recently. Now that Obama made it clear also he will use his Veto Power. Along with the Reconcilitation Clause. He will nedd less than 55 if necessary. Now Obama is learning how to play hardball. Omentum
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TOMP66666 2 years ago
The fact that he's standing there with Giuliani is enough to tell me what this guy's all about. Giuliani is as much a criminal as any person involved in 911. I think they'd both look good in handcuffs.
amzuel420 2 years ago
@amzuel420 You are a white nig@er
zyou8er 2 years ago
Not sure what color "you" are but you are definately an asshole.
amzuel420 2 years ago
@M
I personally don't find your belief that a tax on banks is a good thing for consumers persuasive. I also think most orthodox economists, bankers, investors*, and MA voters would DISAGREE with you.
Most non-Marxist hold that corporations such as banks would pass taxes on in the form of higher fees, decreased dividends, or cutting jobs.
*recent poll found 77% of investors think Obama is anti-business.
esj8341 2 years ago
Obama,Obama-Care...TEA-BAGGED
The Teddy Kennedy Seat...TEA-BAGGED
Democrat Congress .. TEA-BAGGED
Nanny Pelosi..TEA-BAGGED
Scarey Ried... TEA-BAGGED
Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Progressive/Socialist Agendas...TEA-BAGGED
Leftist Main Stream Media.. TEA-BAGGED
SUPREME COURT to Liberals...TEA-BAGGED
Air America... TEA-BAGGED
Congratulations SENATOR ELECT BROWN ! Helped Accomplished ALL of the Above and hasnt even been Seated Yet !!! SENATOR SCOTT BROWN,Good For America ! God Bless
wiseoneetest 2 years ago
@M
The issue is whether a tax placed upon banks in effect amounts to a tax on consumers.(See title of video). Senator Brown is correct in understanding that corporations when taxed compensate by higher fees, lower dividends, or laying off workers. It is like squeezing a balloon. Squeeze one end and it gets bigger on the other end squeeze too hard and it breaks.
As to bailout repayment. No bailouts should have been made in the first place. Contracts however once agreed to should be honored.
esj8341 2 years ago
@esj8341
What Scott doesn't admit is that in a capitalistic society, the banks can't pass on the costs if that would lead to them damaging their competitive standing. Customers would go to another bank. They could stiff their shareholders but then those shareholders could sell their stock and invest in another company. See. You want capitalism to work but you don't know what it is.
MidnightChimes 2 years ago
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esj8341 2 years ago
Please try going over what you wrote. Do you even make sense to yourself?
Are you suggesting Capitalism for some reason does not allow corporations such as banks to raise their fees?
esj8341 2 years ago
@esj8341
God you are daft.
Banks raise their fees....customers go elsewhere.
Banks lower their dividends...investors go elsewhere.
The banks were lucky they got bailed out. They should STFU and pay the damn money back.
I'm thinking you must work for a bank...maybe as a janitor.
MidnightChimes 2 years ago
MarxistChimes,
Where is the consumer going to run? Obama wants to tax ALL U.S. banks. Some banks may raise fees, others may cut jobs, others may reduce dividends, but one way or the other the people ultimately are going to end up being the ones who get hurt.
Corporations do not pay taxes one way or the other they just pass the increased cost onto consumers.
Riverboatrun 2 years ago
@Riverboatrun,
The republicans are agaisnt the middle class.
Brown just pretended, to care about the middle class. To get elected.
Republicans try to ruin us. Every chance they get.
homeboy20012009 2 years ago
@Riverboatrun
Riverboatnumbskull
The tax/fees are based on the amount of debt to equity ratio the banks have on their balance sheets (remember those?) The smaller banks will pay significantly less in fees while the overexposed banks...the ones that got the most bailout money....will suffer the most.
So fuck yourself you fascist dogfucking republican teabagging suckdicker!
MidnightChimes 2 years ago
What happened when the federal tax on cigarettes increased? The price of cigs went up. When taxes, fees or fines go up, the consumer pays. Conversely, if you lower corporate taxes and fees, prices will go down. Raise them, and prices will go up--just what is NOT needed in the middle of a two year recession.
AlammaX 2 years ago
@AlammaX
lol. Name one product that decreased in price when taxes were decreased on that product?
MidnightChimes 2 years ago
Mr. Chimes
Cause and Effect. The federal tax on cigarettes increased, and then the price on cigs went up. Why are you denying this?
And what color is the sky in your world?
AlammaX 2 years ago
Cig's are taxed beyond all reason to satisfy the Liberal Agenda to control evertyhing People, Think, Say and Do - just don't apply any of their rhetoric or bullshit to them as they are above it all!
There is no God because in the dysfucntional LIBERAL MIND, they are GOD. Lets impose a Carbon Tax on the Hot Air Spewing from their Mouths.
Next on their agenda - Banning Smoking in Private Residences, your Own Home. When they pass that, next it'll be how many Kids you can have ala CHINA!
scratchgolf923 2 years ago
We are the ones, who deserve the bailouts. Not these crooked banks.
homeboy20012009 2 years ago
Senator Brown is right.
If a tax is levied on a corporation, and if it is to survive, it must raise the price of its product, or lower dividends or lay off workers. In each case, it is people, not some legal fiction called a corporation, who bear the burden of any tax levied on the corporation. (An important subject area in economics called tax incidence says that the entity upon whom a tax is levied does not necessarily bear the burden of the tax).
esj8341 2 years ago
@esj8341
okay. to use your logic....then the banks shouldn't pay back the money given to them by the taxpayers since that will also be passed on to the consumers.
but wait...we are a consumer based economy. so maybe we should not pay bank the banks the money we owe them so that we can spend it on goods and services to keep the economy going?
MidnightChimes 2 years ago
@MidnightChimes
If you used logic, then you would not have asked a factious question.
I repeat, a tax upon a corporation is passed onto consumers in the form of lower dividends, layed off workers or higher costs.
Whether banks pay back their government loans or not is a matter. The bailout should not have been made in the first place.
esj8341 2 years ago
@esj8341
So you are dismissing reality?
The bailout was made. It was done by Bush.
Now how do the banks pay back the money without sticking it to their customers, laid off workers, or higher costs?
Don't forget that we have competition so that any fees banks charge consumers would possible make them lose those consumers to a bank that doesn't charge those fees. Same as investors.
You seem to be simplifying a complex problem.
MidnightChimes 2 years ago
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esj8341 2 years ago
Just shot yourself in the Foot! Sounds like you just got out of a Lib Professors class, you know - one who never spent a Day in His of Her life in the Private Sector.
Repeat all you want - the fact is, the legal fiction called a Corporation does not effect "all Consumers". If you don't own their stock, don't purchase their goods or are not an employee, then who thell cares if they go out of Business, that's how it works. Net Impact to Consumer = Zero. And yes, BANKS should Fail
scratchgolf923 2 years ago
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esj8341 2 years ago
The big banks had plenty of money to give out big billion$ bonuses in 2009, just no money to lend out or pay a small extra tax to the government to fund 2 wars.
The big banks taxes were dramatically cut by Bush in 2003, and yet big bank fees have doubled since then. So not only did the big banks get more of your money in fees, but the big banks were rewarded for doing so by paying less in taxes.
mrtpitiesdafool 2 years ago 2
@mrtpitiesdafool
not only that...the big banks have been borrowing from the fed at close to zero percent interest. Seen the interest rate on your credit card lately?
MidnightChimes 2 years ago
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mrtpitiesdafool 2 years ago
The Nobama camp is in panic mode.
joeslick65 2 years ago 3
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Last week, USA today published an article stating that US corporations had already contributed 16 MILLION DOLLARS toward aid for the victims of the earthquake in Hati.
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esj8341 2 years ago
He's every gay guy's wet dream.
jkfromcincty 2 years ago
Next time my husband and brothers start drooling over Sarah Palin, I'm gonna whip out a picture of Scotty boy...hehe. C U TE!
happy2bUSA 2 years ago
obama is a media whore
nothing less
nothing more
TonyCook2012 2 years ago
Let me tell you who "builds things" in this country you mindless fuckwit.
The man in the farm field and the man on the shop floor. The man your wealthy bitch forgot about when he shipped the real builder's job to china and then ducked out of paying taxes on the income.
You are shilling for a bunch of scamming tax cheats because you think they're going to put religion in schools for you. Don't you look silly about now.... Scammed by the people you shill for.
scottsway 2 years ago
go bury your bone somewhere else you fucking queer bait.
TonyCook2012 2 years ago
Illiterate hillbilly neo-nazi morons like yourself are the precise reason I had to leave the GOP... what an intelligent response, typical mindless clown thinking you are part of the gop country club...
scottsway 2 years ago
what liberal babble bullshit did your creepy parents teach you?
do us all a favor...kill yourself now.
TonyCook2012 2 years ago
"Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives."
scottsway 2 years ago
"liberalism is a mental disorder"
TonyCook2012 2 years ago
tell me can you think of anything on your own or are just going to quote Mike Savage all day... fyi did you know that mikie is a fucking queer? Yes he really is!! You're in love with a gay man, how does that make you feel? Tony cook is a fucking half witted fool........
scottsway 2 years ago
it doesn't take much to entertain you does it.
good luck w/ your med adjustments after 2010
TonyCook2012 2 years ago
I would agree with that analysis and it really is evidenced by this "bank tax" stupidity. Liberals correctly always say that banks and richies pay no taxes because they pass them all on to the rest of us, but yet the liberals always want to raise these taxes that they already admit richies and banks are not paying, which is proof of mental disorder. All banks are going to do is fire employees and raise fees on customers to pay the "bank tax." Scott Brown is right again and wil save us from it
MRobert21 2 years ago
Scott Brown oh yeah baby is here to change washington!!! hahahaha.. you're really a funny guy you know that? We had a great progressive tax system in place with a strong middle class before reagan was sworn in. The only mental disorder here is you and all the right wing kool aid you drink. Sober up and please enter repucklican rehab, I'm starting classes soon. You would be a good candidate.
scottsway 2 years ago
Blah, blah lefty goon you know nothing including that I am not even a Rebublican, but I am glad that you are starting rehab classes soon since you are clearly on too many drugs. We had stagflation and permanent economic depression before Reagan fixed every thing and made it better. You say I drink right wing Kool aid and I say you drink left wing kool aid, so what. You are a funny guy, but I will not mock your sexual preference or violate the don't ask, don't tell policy your party created.
MRobert21 2 years ago 2
Good god, I think you did one to many drugs... Reagan fucked everything up everything! 8 consecutive years of deficits 2 major stock crashes, remember black monday 87??? Or did you forget that one?
scottsway 2 years ago
Dead on with that one, Tony baby! Too much latte-lapping gave these lefties a loose tongue....
Luv2MindScrew 2 years ago
I plan on ignoring your moronic Marxist butt after this, but I had to rip this dumb statement of yours. Conservatives are stupid, but lefties expect Barrack Hussein whose administration is filled with rich bankers and whose campaign was funded by the rich bankers to punish the rich bankers. Conservatives are stupid, but it was all liberals who voted to bail out the rich bankers with the money of the poor and now they claim they are going to tax all that money back from the banks, which is nuts
MRobert21 2 years ago
You know you're right with the rich bankers....this is why he will fail just like the child bush... he needs to get rid of Summers and Geitner both are crooks! They are no different from the gop assholes. Why do you think nothing changes??? Because they wont let him, Wall Street owns our Govt! And maybe you should study marxism since obviously you know shit about it. Marxism worked until it was bastardized by a corrupt govt!
scottsway 2 years ago
Scott Brown is just telling the truth about taxes, and showing what the democrat tax increases will mean to all of us. Way to GO!
sirjames45 2 years ago 2
Brown should have told Gullianni to step aside sinse Rudy is a Bush republican.
macdogq 2 years ago
Where has this guy been?
Brown -
Your my boy. Articulate and delivered superbly.
-D
TheDirtBaller 2 years ago
8 Years of Bush Administration? We Made a Mistake? 2nd Obama President One Year, Nothing Change! 3rd Scott Brown Same Shit...
jccasts 2 years ago
leave more to Wall Street!!
It'll trickle down!!!
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
pinochet222 2 years ago
MA voter for Brown but against MA universal HC mandate. It is very unfair. We pay higher premiums and get less coverage. Then sales tax went up in MA. It is BAD for MA it is BAD for Country!
348692 2 years ago
I hate to say it, but a bank tax will not ultimately be paid by the people. ATM fees can go up 500%, I still dont take money out of an ATM thats not my bank. If my bank imposed extra fees on nonsense, I would switch to another bank. As for interest rates, they are controlled by the market, not the banks. These banks should of failed but isntead used an interest free loan from the taxpayer. In the end, taxing everyone is not the solution anyway. Dems still dont get it.
Exposethefrauds 2 years ago
Scott Brown is a marionette and Giuliani has the strings.
mathcookies 2 years ago
the government FORCED banks to take $ they didn't need then charged them interest for the $ they wouldn't allow them to refuse.
The Obamanation is a really cooky place to live
ubetcha13 2 years ago
We should have a national bank.. and let the private banks compete if they want to..Problem solved.
badmuffy 2 years ago
Brown represents what is best for Massachusetts and the United States. Congratulations Scott Brown and the state of Massachusetts!
Remember real conservatism - not neo-conservatism! Brown is concerned for what is best for the country. Go Scott Brown!
AProbableAnomaly 2 years ago
What the hell is going on here? While no one could claim American politics has been boring at the start of the 21st century (remember Florida?), I worry that the pendulums has swung too far to the "pretty" candidates in a reckless display of beauty over substance. I learned today that Massachusetts' Senator-elect, SCOTT Brown was a model and won Cosmopolitan Magazine's "America's Sexiest Man" contest in 1982. This brings up an odd nexus with 2008 Republican V.P. nominee, Sarah Louise HEATH PALIN
Zriggo 2 years ago
Former Alaska half-term governor, Sarah Louise HEATH PALIN, was born FEBRUARY 11, 1964. The date was the 28th birthday of Hollywood actor Burton LEOn "Burt" Reynolds, Jr. Like Scott Brown, Burt REYnOLDs famously posed nude for Cosmopolitan Magazine--ten years earlier in 1972--on a bearskin rug. Then consider Sarah PALIN's history in beauty pageant competition and it might be time to ponder whether a race of aliens is sending himbo / bimbo candidates to Earth in an effort to destroy the planet
Zriggo 2 years ago
The economy is in the ruins and we have an extreme leftist president who hasn't ever ran a business and has never had to meet a payroll running the economy for us. He has never shot a bb gun, yet he is commander in cheif yet he always claims he "gets it". Am I the only one who sees a problem with this picture? Just wondering, because nobody ever brings these points up. And all liberals out there, don't give me the same old "Bush did it" rhetoric. Its been over a year now without "change"
tonyg0123 2 years ago
Sounds like Scott Brown opposes bank taxes and bank regulations. Sounds like Republican business as usual.
cobrafarmer 2 years ago
Good job dude. Too bad Guiliani is standing next to you. Remember real conservatism and not neo-conism!
jayskind 2 years ago
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Blucius13 2 years ago
I am assuming you are in that state, I am not and I spent 20 minutes online looking for his state senatorial voting record to no avail. The only thinG I can say is: HOLD HIS FEET TO THE FIRE! LET THESE GUYS KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO LIVE IN THE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC ANYMORE! FOR OTHER NOT YET AWAKE, READING THIS BETWEEN US: ISMS TYPE COUNTRIES ALWAYS CALL THEMSELVES PEOPLES SOCIAL DEMOMCRATIC REPUBLIC ETC. AND ARE ANYTHING BUT. BURN THOSE FEET! 1MO THING UK/US BANKS SUCK
jayskind 2 years ago
Oh fuckin' A... I'm now just listening to Obama's NEW speech in full. He's back-peddling and trying to save his own ass... JUST PATHETIC!
Simply Pa-fuckin' leftist-thetic!!!
What a disgrace this "Ego has Landed" screwball has been...
Cmon man... blame it all on Rush..
MASS-AFUCKIN'-CHUSETTS, the bluest of blue states just elected a fuckin' Conservative.. and the ridiculous Bamster KNOWS that was a direct shot at him!! YES!!! directly at him and his stretch-face Pelosi!!!!!!
mvbeckril 2 years ago
It's amazing how such a common-sense issue escapes so many democrats. It's main street who ultimately will pay for it if they punish the banks. We're all in this economy together.
djmartinusen 2 years ago
Well put! Taxing the rich (banks, institutions, corporations, millionaires, etc) is just 'feel-good' legislation. In the end, the rich do not absorb these fees; they simply pass them on down the socio-economic ladder, to be paid by you and me.
Does anyone really think that his doctor, lawyer, dentist, banker, etc, is going to just eat any increase in his taxes? No! He's not going to lower his standard of living. He's going to pass that increase on to you, in the form of higher fees.
dwstick 2 years ago
Being the minority in Washington seems to work great for the Republicans. They can talk all the shit they want and still act like victims. Careful, Scott, if you guys reclaim congress or the white house you might run the risk of actually doing something, and once again exposing yourselves for the frauds you are.
FideltheMaggot 2 years ago
"doing something"? you're a fucking idiot!
Btw... Bamster just made YET another speech where he blamed his reckless taxing and spending on Bush.. America isn't falling for the radical left anymore.. they're great at spending other people's money for their social agendas... but..
NO THANKS!
mvbeckril 2 years ago
Btw, why has it always been historically that R's contribute way more to charities than D's do? Spending THEIR own money... NOT somebody elses?
It's a fact!
mvbeckril 2 years ago
He's the next President of the United States. The dems are crying like school girls and finger-pointing like crazy. This is great fun.
pfiveacresmt 2 years ago
Amazing how poor people think rich people pay taxes and do not pass those "expenses" on to the customers including the "poor".
When Clinton was Pres and hiked taxes I just fired 2 employees and increased the rests medical deductible and bought my first Mercedes.
MrLostDwarf 2 years ago 2
Obama: "Damn it! I shouldn't have insulted those Cambridge policemen.. my speeches aren't working anymore..and I bet that fugly Botox bitch Pelosi's gonna be callin' any second."
mvbeckril 2 years ago
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Nice campain Scott,...er, Senator. We the People will be keeping an eye on your small government promises, don't let us down.
God bless
quickboat22 2 years ago
my FELLOW MAINSTREETERS...WITH BUSH,,, WALL STREET RAPED US....WITH BAMA,,,WALL STREET CONTINUES TO RAPE US....AND AND,,,,we get HITLER NAZI HEALTHCARE NOBODY WANTS BUT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND GREEN HITLER NAZI PROGRAMS THAT WILL WRECK US....DIVIDED GOVT is the only hope.......frankly,I HATE ALL POLITICIANS, they are all worthless PARASITES.
ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 2 years ago
Democrats are trying to rape everyone in America for their rich, fat cat Corporate lobbyists.
Brown defeats Coakley and Obama blames Bush?
Obama is out of his stupid ass mind!
kvjhedfbv 2 years ago 3
What can Brown do for you
jouxster 2 years ago
sic semper tyrannis.
ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 2 years ago
This guy's win shows just how STUPID AND IGNORANT THE RIGHT WINGERS ARE.
Perfect. Corporatism wins, the people of America lose.
amielrox 2 years ago
70% of Mass. voters are Democrat!
Brown received at least half of the Democrat's votes.
Democrats are just too stupid to realize Americans reject their loony Liberal agenda!
Obama blames Bush for his incompetence and failures. lol
Democrats are MISERABLE LOSERS!!!!
kvjhedfbv 2 years ago 2
No, Obama doesn't. It just shows how spineless the dems are at pushing agendas.
Give your insurance companies a pat on the back for me, will you? I hope they enjoy exploiting their customers further ;)
amielrox 2 years ago
@amielrox
Who regulates Insurance Companies?
Who writes Insurance Company contracts?
Who approves Insurance Company rate increases?
Who takes political donations from Insurance Companies?
Please choose the correct answer:
A. Politicians
B. Zoo keepers
C. Olympic athletes
kvjhedfbv 2 years ago
The subject is New Bank fees that the Marxist Dems want to impose to the banks to "punish them" when in reality they pass it on to us..this is the current democratic party genius..hope you didn't vote for Obama
clearwheel9 2 years ago
A. Now answer me this: True or false, Republicans would spend trillions in taxpayers to keep these companies and corporations afloat.
Bonus question: does that sound right?
And another bonus question: would you trust the corporations over the government?
amielrox 2 years ago
Answer, Before 1910 we grew into a very wealthy and powerful nation in just a short time, why. capitalism without shackles and government control that we have today, No such thing as all the fees and taxes we see today and the useless regulations that do nothing but drive up cost and suffocate business. More freedom is what we need as people and business. Erosion of freedom is why we are seeing our nation suffer and go bankrupt. WE ARE BANKRUPT....
jacksblack1 2 years ago
Correction, America's economy flourished during the slave trades.
"Turning the bull loose" may be good for business, but that simply leads to lawless profiteering. During Reagan's time, jobs were created, but many more people were also laid off. As the gap between rich and poor grew, the economy became more and more unstable. And so, here we are.
Tax cuts for the rich are only going to generate temporary profits. Focus should be on the workers and their productivity.
amielrox 2 years ago
@amielrox One thing left to say, F R E E D O M
jacksblack1 2 years ago
Of course. Freedom to hoard wealth, freedom to spread fear and hatred, freedom to invade, freedom to starve, freedom to...
But you're also free to be scorned if you're gay, free to be hated if you're an atheist, free to "keep that baby or go to hell," free to do labor at a pathetic minimum wage, free to stay sick, free to stay in debt, free to go into debt, free to live in fear that healthcare is actually a government plot to take away your guns and bible...
Yeah, keep waving that flag.
amielrox 2 years ago
@amielrox You are out of your mind. How is taking "MY" guns away freedom? You are just wanting to talk jibberish. Enough already. F R E E D O M . I am a disabled veteran and so in my father. I am a memeber of the Sons of the American Revolution. People shed blood for F R E E D O M. LEt it not be in vain. Freedom for the people. Not freedom to break the constitution or any laws. But F R E E D O M from tyranny. I do not need government or anyone telling me how to run my business .
jacksblack1 2 years ago 4
I salute you.
However, THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS. Gun control isn't gun confiscation, Rambo. Breaking laws and constitution? Tell that to Bush and his so-called "PATRIOT" act.
Now, I won't argue any further. You're a war veteran and a war hero and I won't attack your views any further, as long as you stop attacking mine.
amielrox 2 years ago
@jacksblack1. Y don't u & ur buddy @riverboatrun walk some signs saying "I luv Wall St. & the banksters & how they singlehandedly F-ed the USA" in ur neighborhood & C how much support u'll get. This POS & the other smelly POS Julianni R just mouthpieces 4 an industry that does NOTHING 2 actually put everyday blue collar, middle class Americans 2 work. All the banksters do is push paper. They don't manufacture, they don't make goods, they R usefull only 2 politicians like these lying scumbags.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@jacksblack1. During WWII, people didnt brag about being ex-military. People didn't do this constant thanking people 4 their "service". Every1 understood in my dads day that if u got called 2 war, u went. Period. End of story. & when u came back, u went back 2 ur normal life. It was part of being an American & defending the Constitution. 2day, we violate the Constitution everyday were in the middle east w/no declaration of war. Nobody has a backbone anymore. Every1 is scared of being attacked
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
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jacksblack1 1 year ago
@JSAautomotive Well, since all that are in the military now are voluntary, I do thank them and appreciate them since they did not have to go, they chose to join the military. BIG DIFFERENCE. Others choose not to. That is ok but I do thank those that volunteered. If your dad was not drafted, would he have volunteered? Maybe not. So you are comparing apples to oranges. Stop posting comments after you take a hit of pot. Please, you are wasted.
jacksblack1 1 year ago
@jacksblack1. Yawn. 1 of my best friends who's Delta (just retired recently) has no issues w/pot smokers as we used 2 party together when we were kids. He can drink like a fish too. MayB u should do a little pot, it might help ur grammar w/saying "ain't" so much. Hillbilly. Yes, I've watched ur videos there Shakespeare. Sometimes I wonder which language you're speaking. I'm guessing grammar & English weren't ur strong point in school. MayB thats Y u joined the military & R now a truck driver.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
or got deferments (like Rush, Cheney, Rumsfeld & a whole host of Chicken Hawks), then I got a problem w/u. Just like I have a prob w/offshore military bases (like in Germany) that don't need 2B there. They basically serve as a party cruise 4 military guys that never saw 1 day of combat. Look at R Fed budget, over 1/2 goes 2 the military. Its ridiculous. If we closed all those bases tomorrow, we'd be out of the red fiscally. "The military" is sucking us dry, same w/2 needless wars in the mideast.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@jacksblack1. I'm neutral on the military. R forefathers felt that we shouldnt have a standing army during peacetime. I concur w/Eisenhower in regards 2 the "Military Industrial Complex". U know? That 5 star General & Supreme Commander during WWII? Joining the military during peacetime doesn't impress me. If thats what u want 2 do, thats ur deal. 2 "volunteer" is 2 not receive a pay. Being military is a paid JOB. The only Constitutional requirement is 2 report 4 a draft. If ur a draft dodger,
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@JSAautomotive I will let your statement speak for itself. Only a fool will argue with a fool. All anyone has to do is to read what you just wrote. I could shred you on several counts. IS it worth it? No.... You are blind and will never see.....Just tell that to all the other standing armies that train day in and day out and want to take this little republic from us if ever the chance shall arise. Please, I have better things to do than to go back and forth with you. I beg of you. Get a life.
jacksblack1 1 year ago
@jacksblack1. If I'm a fool, then u don't understand the Constitution or the what the Framers original intentions were. We don't need 2B the worlds police. The Constitution is clear when it comes to acts of war, it must B a nation that attacks us. Pre-emptive war or policing the world is not covered by the Constitution. Period. If ur such a coward that ur not willing 2 defend R country ON OUR OWN SOIL, then let the facts stand 4 themselves. You're a coward, and that is completely obvious to me.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@JSAautomotive You just screwed yourself. I am going to turn this over to MCEP and the whole gang of Wolfpack. I cant wait for them to see the part where your fag ass called me a coward. My multiple tour disabled wartime veteran is called a coward by a brain dead freak like you. You have no clue who you are talking too and you have no idea why you are telling me anything. I know that you have now fucked up. Go ahead and click on jacksblack1 and maybe you will find out a little. You retard....
jacksblack1 1 year ago
@jacksblack1. I clicked. Didn't see anything son & I stand by what I said here hillbilly boy. Just a warning, this lib hippie is armed 2 the teeth. & lets just say my current job allows me carry a fully loaded weapon at all times just in case some crazy feller on utube wants 2 stalk me. Heh..heh. By the way? That video of ur 10 yr old son? Is that tattoo on his arm? & is that u using the F word in the video? Classy! What kind of a dad R U?
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@JSAautomotive Are you a psycho? I am still trying to figure out why you started messing with black1 in the first place. It is clear that you have problems. Do you have anything else better to do? Go play with your Piper... Geez, The fumes are getting to you......
SpecialAgent317th 1 year ago
@JSAautomotive Do you even know why you are commeting to me? I have no idea. I never commented to you ever until you posted something to me that madew no since. But you go on and on and on and now you really done it. A coward your hippie ass says to me. I am decorated and served my country during many tours and 2 overseas ribbons and disabled from my patriotic service to this Country. You are not worth my time. You are a hippie and really, an idiot. Leave me the hell alone.. Your name posted now
jacksblack1 1 year ago
@jacksblack1. Ah yes, I knew it would come 2 this. U ex-military R types R so predictable. How did u serve ur country there hillbilly? Did u get shot in the ass while doing KP after a barf session from partying at Octoberfest? I've got more courage in my pinky that uve got in ur whole body son. U should just go play w/all the little girls now. Run along. Before u scrape ur knee & go crying to ur mama.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@JSAautomotive i would be so glad to swap address and phone numbers so we could have a little get together if you dont mind. please, I beg of you. We can catch up on old times. Please dont play any games going back and forth. I am serious. As long as you are in the continental US, I can meet you anywhere. You seem like a real tough person so this should be a cake walk for you right? You arent afraid of me I know so oblige me and lets us get together.....
jacksblack1 1 year ago
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JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@JSAautomotive let me make sure i got it straight. You are Piper Tech/LAPD Garage. 555 E. Ramirez Street, Los. Angeles, California. When I get there, just make sure I park in the area thats designated for the public? Just ask for Griz when I get to the LAPD garage office, everyone knows who you are? Not too far from Bakersfield. Great......Have coffee waiting....
jacksblack1 1 year ago
@jacksblack1. Like I said, make sure you email me before you show up. And if you're willing to sign a release, I'll take you to a boxing ring so you can take our ur frustrations on somebody. Ok tough guy?
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@jacksblack1. And tell ur boy to mind his own business. This is between you and me.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
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@jacksblack1. Sounds good son. Piper Tech/LAPD Garage. 555 E. Ramirez Street, Los. Angeles, Ca. When you get there, just make sure you park in the area thats designated for the public. Just ask for Griz when u get to the LAPD garage office, everyone knows who I am. Email me here when you're in town so I know to expect you.
JSAautomotive 1 year ago
@JSAautomotive Hippie
jacksblack1 1 year ago
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JSAautomotive 1 year ago