Percussion Revolver caliber was measured from the start of the bore width, "Groves" thus .0 44 of an inch, Cartridge Revolvers measured the sizing from the bottom of the lands thus a 457 Ball or Bullet would be classified as 45 Caliber. The 1847 Walker came out quiet a way before Cartridges,which became popular in around 1875. Using the Realistic TKO Ballistic Power Measuring System, The Walker is like a 44 Magnum espically with my new Universal bullets,which you can see on my YT channel.
@TMoNeY187x No. The Dragoon had a Shorter barrel, shorter cylinder, a Loading lever catch to hold it in place, and weighed about 4.25 pounds, as opposed to the walker's 4.75 pounds. The shorter cylinder gave the Dragoon a smaller powder charge(A max of 50grains instead of 60 with the walker) but helped for a more reliable sidearm. The walker revolver was made for 1847, while the dragoon was a redesigned version for 1848-60. Still a Different gun though.
@TMoNeY187x Quite Welcome. One more thing though that not everyone knows. If you are looking at getting into shooting them not everyone knows, if you do shoot them already, you might have already found it out. Those max charge weights are for round balls. Conical bullets may reduce that charge by 5, or as much as 10 grains. Good luck to you.
That is some seriously awesome and very true advice about dangerous stuff. When I think of this particular gun I always think of Gene Hackman in Unforgiven doing the monologue about the gunslinger that had one of these blow up in his hands. Definitely a badass gun. I want one myself but I lack the necessary license in my area (Canada). I bet it's a whole lot of fun to shoot.
Awakeanddangerous I think you are mistaken. IIRC the walker 44 was the most powerful handgun UNTIL the 44mag came along...but I could be missremembering.
@TGBII I've heard it so many differnt ways it really can be confusing. I'm shooting an older Navy Arms 1851 in the incorrect cal of 44cal. 8^) 25gr of FFFg and Speer swagged balls. It shoots nicely if high...
great scott! you should be safe and use lubed wads and it wouldnt hurt puttting alittle crisco greese or bore butter on the cylinder chambers after loading but before putting caps on the nipples. i use reduced loads becouse i got tired of having to close the loading lever closed after each shot. have fun!
Crisco & whatnot can make it easier to clean. Wads will make accuracy a little better, but if you're using a tight ball, there's really no safety need for using either.
great video , nice gun , i've got a 1858 remington in .44 caliber, however i use a .451 ball in it , as you said to stop a chainfire of the chambers, what is the pricefor one of those because i'm connsidering a .44 colt, either a .44 walker, 3rd model dragoon, or maybe a 1860 army???
You can't fit enough powder in those things to over-pressure them. I load my 1858 Remington just short of level full with FF powder, which crunches down enough to fit a wad and a ball. Awesome gun! That was the most powerful repeating handgun in the world, until the .357 magnum was invented in the 1930's.
50gr is a LOT for a cap & ball revolver. 20gr is just fine for plinking at the range. I use 50gr of powder in my .50 cal rifle when I'm shooting at the local pistol range.
Three of thirty grains, three of fifty--oops!!! Poor girl, always leave on bean empty--one chamber empty--prevents accidental firing. You should know that throwing around the word safety. Also, you never mention the danger of mercury and lead to your poor daughter, let alone the residue after firing.
Nice! I just got one of these guns but haven't had a chance to try it out yet. I like your cameraman... she's a cutie! I'm glad to see you properly instructing her at such a young age. Keep up the good work!
heh heh i just had a terible idea you know alot of the black powder pistols were converted to cartridge guns so i wonder what a converted walker would be like.
And i learned in Hunting Safety that the grease topping is for stopping chainfireing as well as to keep the grid soft to reduce the build up and make cleaning easy.
widzę że koleś sie nie stosuje do zasad bezpieczeństwa lub nie zna na obsłudze broni CP, po prochu należy nasypać lub włożyć filc tz. przebitkę a potem kule tak, by sama kula była jak najbliżej komory ładowania . idiot !!!
1) A wadding isn't necessary if using an oversized ball (which I do)
2) I load as close to the loading stage as I can.
3) Calling names isn't nice.
4) Posting in Polish leads me to believe you're really more upset about one of my other videos. In which I am widely misunderstood as to be calling Polish people idiots. Which is not actually the case.
I'm sure my Polish "friend" didn't meant to insult You ...anyways why dont you place wads over the powder charge to seal the chambers to prevent crossfire (at least from the front). You can also use semolina - Its cheap, it perfectly seals the chambers - just fill it to the top, add the ball and you are ready to go. Its safer, better ballistic parameters, and cleaner cos the powder melts the ball a little- if you just put the ball after the BP - and the chambers are more dirty.
Some people put the caps before they load the gun. You did it the other way around. What is the reason for this? Why do you think putting them afterwards is better?
They will only do such things i you're careless. Modern replicas don't have problems with ruptured cyliders, either - a problem some of the originals had due to poor metallurgy.
4.5 lbs. feels more like 8 when you hold it out at arm's length for a while. You can watch Robert Duval as Capt. Gus MacRae, late of the Texas Rangers, "whack a surly bartender" with a Walker Colt in "Lonesome Dove", the 1989 mini-series. You've got an excellent replica of a real piece of Texican history.
Nice Gun,I'm buying a 1851 Confederate navy .44 next month from Cabela's. It'll be My Fist Black powder Revolver. I Have a Black powder Rifle and I love It.
She will take 50 to 60 grains, and pack one hell of a wallup! Do yourself a favor, and get pre measured tips for that powder flask! This will speed up your loading time.
haha, yea after a few shots holding it one arm it feels like it jumps up in weight. Nice video though. and nice to see the kids involved. :) I still am trying to get mine to shoot a bit more accurately. I think ill try some bigger balls.
You are doing the right thing by showing your daughter about these historic guns. keep up the good fatherly work!
MrKaido93 1 month ago
Percussion Revolver caliber was measured from the start of the bore width, "Groves" thus .0 44 of an inch, Cartridge Revolvers measured the sizing from the bottom of the lands thus a 457 Ball or Bullet would be classified as 45 Caliber. The 1847 Walker came out quiet a way before Cartridges,which became popular in around 1875. Using the Realistic TKO Ballistic Power Measuring System, The Walker is like a 44 Magnum espically with my new Universal bullets,which you can see on my YT channel.
MrKaido93 1 month ago
I think it actually weighs about 4 1/2 pounds, not 8 pounds. Thanks for posting.
ZoneIII 6 months ago
is a colt walker the same thing as the dragoon?
TMoNeY187x 1 year ago
@TMoNeY187x No. The Dragoon had a Shorter barrel, shorter cylinder, a Loading lever catch to hold it in place, and weighed about 4.25 pounds, as opposed to the walker's 4.75 pounds. The shorter cylinder gave the Dragoon a smaller powder charge(A max of 50grains instead of 60 with the walker) but helped for a more reliable sidearm. The walker revolver was made for 1847, while the dragoon was a redesigned version for 1848-60. Still a Different gun though.
TheFoundersWereRight 11 months ago
@TheFoundersWereRight
Oh Okay now I get it. Thanks for the reply.
TMoNeY187x 11 months ago
@TMoNeY187x Quite Welcome. One more thing though that not everyone knows. If you are looking at getting into shooting them not everyone knows, if you do shoot them already, you might have already found it out. Those max charge weights are for round balls. Conical bullets may reduce that charge by 5, or as much as 10 grains. Good luck to you.
TheFoundersWereRight 11 months ago
nice walker, also your girl is really smart for her age! :)
missourninja 1 year ago
They must be homeschooled,Kudos for homeschoolers! :)
thefirearmsguy 1 year ago
That is some seriously awesome and very true advice about dangerous stuff. When I think of this particular gun I always think of Gene Hackman in Unforgiven doing the monologue about the gunslinger that had one of these blow up in his hands. Definitely a badass gun. I want one myself but I lack the necessary license in my area (Canada). I bet it's a whole lot of fun to shoot.
pleasuretrip 1 year ago
She's going to be field stripping an AR in no time.
easydoz1 1 year ago
Your helper is awesome. Thanks for posting this video
CrippledJim 1 year ago
cute kid
sjr341 1 year ago
that little girl can probably take out the entire taliban with an unloaded gun
mucasPARTSstudios 1 year ago
TGBII; iirc the 44spl, 44 long colt came out long before the 357mag. Now excuse me the weeping...the last mile to the range is naught but sloppy mud.
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
Awakeanddangerous I think you are mistaken. IIRC the walker 44 was the most powerful handgun UNTIL the 44mag came along...but I could be missremembering.
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
@GrigoriZhukov
Yes, and no. The fully loaded walker (60 grs of powder) is about the same as a modern .357 mag.
I think the .44 might have come before the .357 mag, though (but not the .44 mag)
TGBII 1 year ago
@TGBII I've heard it so many differnt ways it really can be confusing. I'm shooting an older Navy Arms 1851 in the incorrect cal of 44cal. 8^) 25gr of FFFg and Speer swagged balls. It shoots nicely if high...
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
@GrigoriZhukov It out-powered even that, it was unmatched until 1984
Gladeator123 1 year ago
You do not need lubed wads...that's a modern convention. hmmph, show me a paper cartridge from the era that had wads. You don't really need them...
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
great scott! you should be safe and use lubed wads and it wouldnt hurt puttting alittle crisco greese or bore butter on the cylinder chambers after loading but before putting caps on the nipples. i use reduced loads becouse i got tired of having to close the loading lever closed after each shot. have fun!
glynamus 1 year ago
@glynamus
Crisco & whatnot can make it easier to clean. Wads will make accuracy a little better, but if you're using a tight ball, there's really no safety need for using either.
TGBII 1 year ago
is that a brass frame?
1x93cm 1 year ago
great video , nice gun , i've got a 1858 remington in .44 caliber, however i use a .451 ball in it , as you said to stop a chainfire of the chambers, what is the pricefor one of those because i'm connsidering a .44 colt, either a .44 walker, 3rd model dragoon, or maybe a 1860 army???
maddymann8 1 year ago
You can't fit enough powder in those things to over-pressure them. I load my 1858 Remington just short of level full with FF powder, which crunches down enough to fit a wad and a ball. Awesome gun! That was the most powerful repeating handgun in the world, until the .357 magnum was invented in the 1930's.
*****
AwakeAndDangerous 1 year ago
the little girl know more than i do.
loveryoda 2 years ago
BEST FATHER EVER!!!!!!!
emitman85 2 years ago 9
ur daughter is absoultely the cutest part of this video lol
NitrEX4 2 years ago 6
Not that the video(s) are about being cute, but thanks.
TGBII 2 years ago
pedophile
Pntbll891 1 year ago
50gr is a LOT for a cap & ball revolver. 20gr is just fine for plinking at the range. I use 50gr of powder in my .50 cal rifle when I'm shooting at the local pistol range.
sharpie443 2 years ago
My Walker takes 60 grains easy and has enough room for 70 grains.
tsafa1 2 years ago
cool of you to take your daughter.
i bet she's learning quickly?!
murdoch2486 2 years ago
WALKLER TEXAS RANGER!!!
ninjaman576 2 years ago
Three of thirty grains, three of fifty--oops!!! Poor girl, always leave on bean empty--one chamber empty--prevents accidental firing. You should know that throwing around the word safety. Also, you never mention the danger of mercury and lead to your poor daughter, let alone the residue after firing.
Pennemuende 2 years ago
This is *not* the only time we go to the range.
Modern primers contain no lead (thus why they are non-corrosive)
For immediate use (or if left on half cock), there is no real reason to leave a cylinder empty.
TGBII 2 years ago
I meant modern primers contain no mercury, BTW
TGBII 2 years ago
Nice! I just got one of these guns but haven't had a chance to try it out yet. I like your cameraman... she's a cutie! I'm glad to see you properly instructing her at such a young age. Keep up the good work!
dauph59 2 years ago
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No one wants to see ur ugly souless ginger
SmellypeniZ 2 years ago
heh heh i just had a terible idea you know alot of the black powder pistols were converted to cartridge guns so i wonder what a converted walker would be like.
LINKistheultimate 3 years ago
It kicks less than a .357 magnum
TGBII 3 years ago
You are in the draw for: "Worlds greats Dad's"
And i learned in Hunting Safety that the grease topping is for stopping chainfireing as well as to keep the grid soft to reduce the build up and make cleaning easy.
Sideshowbobx 3 years ago 2
widzę że koleś sie nie stosuje do zasad bezpieczeństwa lub nie zna na obsłudze broni CP, po prochu należy nasypać lub włożyć filc tz. przebitkę a potem kule tak, by sama kula była jak najbliżej komory ładowania . idiot !!!
cocaine2777 3 years ago
1) A wadding isn't necessary if using an oversized ball (which I do)
2) I load as close to the loading stage as I can.
3) Calling names isn't nice.
4) Posting in Polish leads me to believe you're really more upset about one of my other videos. In which I am widely misunderstood as to be calling Polish people idiots. Which is not actually the case.
TGBII 3 years ago
I'm sure my Polish "friend" didn't meant to insult You ...anyways why dont you place wads over the powder charge to seal the chambers to prevent crossfire (at least from the front). You can also use semolina - Its cheap, it perfectly seals the chambers - just fill it to the top, add the ball and you are ready to go. Its safer, better ballistic parameters, and cleaner cos the powder melts the ball a little- if you just put the ball after the BP - and the chambers are more dirty.
picard81 2 years ago
LIke I said - if you use a slightly oversized ball, it seals the chamber - no worry about crossfiring.
Howevder, you're correct about the better accuracy & cleaning.
Knowing it was all safe, I didn't have a problem with it - next time out, though, I will be getting some beeswax for the chamber.
TGBII 2 years ago
Menudo ejemplo...Increible
MateoBosch 3 years ago
Hey! wheres the shoting?! I demand to see the shooting! post the shooting!
bolosmelga 3 years ago
Then come back & watch part 2...
TGBII 3 years ago
just itching to say 'asses wupped' and also- lube our balls?? what's going on there!! nice vid and nice gun!!!
danebrewer10 3 years ago 3
they are 4 pounds 8 ounces if im not mistaken
ConfederateWill 3 years ago 2
Hey, excelent video!
I was hoping to get to see you fire that beauty.
How about posting a video of you firing with the 30 and 50 grains?
It'd be great to see it.
Tuxster3 3 years ago
It's part 2 - just take a look.
TGBII 3 years ago
Some people put the caps before they load the gun. You did it the other way around. What is the reason for this? Why do you think putting them afterwards is better?
And by the way nice gun!
valdano30 3 years ago
If you put them on before, and you accidentally drop the hammer? *BOOM* right in your face.
I don't put the caps on until I'm ready to pull the trigger. Just another safety step.
And no, the powder doesn't leak out of the nipples.
TGBII 3 years ago
Great vid, nice gun, powerful thing!!!
kcpzpr 4 years ago
Not so much. I inherited this one, but I think they can be has through Cabella's for about $150
TGBII 4 years ago
The kits aren't too bad. I think they can be had through someone like a Cabella's for about $150.
TGBII 4 years ago
U HAD TO BUY THE BIG ONE!
BlackEyeBeatings 4 years ago
The ones that blow up were the originals when were overloaded not these moder replicas that are made with better steeles than back in the 1840's.
miltonSF 4 years ago
i heard those things blow up in ur hand. they look cool though
rjohnjay 4 years ago
They will only do such things i you're careless. Modern replicas don't have problems with ruptured cyliders, either - a problem some of the originals had due to poor metallurgy.
TGBII 4 years ago
4.5 lbs. feels more like 8 when you hold it out at arm's length for a while. You can watch Robert Duval as Capt. Gus MacRae, late of the Texas Rangers, "whack a surly bartender" with a Walker Colt in "Lonesome Dove", the 1989 mini-series. You've got an excellent replica of a real piece of Texican history.
Nice video and running commentary.
SCSlimBoise 4 years ago 2
Nice Gun,I'm buying a 1851 Confederate navy .44 next month from Cabela's. It'll be My Fist Black powder Revolver. I Have a Black powder Rifle and I love It.
FabioCrow07770 4 years ago
Excellent video. Love the color commentary.
voltagedrop 4 years ago 2
She will take 50 to 60 grains, and pack one hell of a wallup! Do yourself a favor, and get pre measured tips for that powder flask! This will speed up your loading time.
Also will help keep your daughter calm!
LOL
Isrealsucks99 4 years ago
haha, yea after a few shots holding it one arm it feels like it jumps up in weight. Nice video though. and nice to see the kids involved. :) I still am trying to get mine to shoot a bit more accurately. I think ill try some bigger balls.
CycleSeth 4 years ago
4.5 pounds, not 8 pounds.
Asertix357 4 years ago
Yes, you are correct.
It sure feels like 8 out there at the end of your arm, though...
TGBII 4 years ago