Yeah i'm opting out of this pointless argument with you and going back to work, at a free clinc and help free school along with comunial babysitting for the community. Do the potlucks twice a week for anyone who shows up, and when i can i will dress like a ninja and try to burn down as much corporate shit as i can. Anonymous fuck you your only a bandwagon blackbloc has been doing this shit since the 70's.
Slightly hypocritical there "anonymous". Going on about how the black block gives the establishment reason to crack down on occupy and peaceful protestors. Kind of like how hacking government websites and politicians gives the establishment reason to tighten internet usage and cost us our privacy online. I'd say there's a time and a place for both but admittedly most times I see any violent protestors in North American they're pointless idiotic acts which leads me to think they're provocateurs.
ignorance is bliss and to you ignorant who allow yourself's to be controlled by this socialist society of economic empires and monopolies that control every aspect of your life whether you know it or not, then it is best to keep your forked tongue behind your teeth.
Black bloc is NOT Anonymous, nor are they Occupy. Neither Anonymous or Occupy support violent actions. Anybody who thinks that anonymous or the occupy movement is about violence and terrorism is an a complete imbecile. If you can't see that there need to changes made to this society that we have come to know then you are part of the problem.
Whatever, Im sick of occupy always playing the victim card, the police will keep bashing no matter what, black bloc at least accepts this fact and doesn't stand for it. all sides of this argument are correct in some aspects but wrong in others.
Anonymous shut down the chat with chris hedges last nice. He had just recived a ton of shit for his naive short sidedness on an article that said black bloc is bad for occupy.I'll call this the nail in the coffin if you are what you say you are then you should know that the ones acting disagree with your stance.
@godwinrocker The Plan isn't Anon, they link their facebook pages and broadcast their true IP addresses and all they know how to do is point and click with loic, which they can't even use right half the time, and instead sit around in tinychat stoned out of their minds showing their actual faces and talking about how Ron Paul will save the world.
If you beleive the media 1. 2. if you think that the media needed balck bloc to "discredit" the G20 protests then i would kindly ask to re read a history book that hasn't been disneyfied, to start getting some real answers, may i recomened noam chomsky, michael parenti, something besides the using the same media that you claim to be fighting as a source. You are only doing a dis-service to your self.
The truth of the matter is, even your Occupussy movement whom you claim to represent the 99%, is not supported by all of the 99%. That IS a fact that gullible and naive people like you either fail to comprehend, or are in denial of.
If all of the 99% supported your cause, you'd have millions marching behind you, that didn't happen. You had at the most thousands. Metro New York has about 22 million people, they didn't all join you.
Black Bloc started up in the early 80's in germany in defence of their squats, first time it was used in the U.S was in 1991 during the gulf war protests. The biggest one was in 1999 in philly at Mumia rally and was completly non violent. I know for a fact they have been succesfull in not have kkk rallies come back in certain towns in the midwest. Since non violence has only one solution to solve everything you can't reasonably expect it to be the answer for everything.
@godwinrocker Bullshit, in the history of every time Black Bloc has been in the news, it's been used by the 1% to discredit G20 protesters and anti-globalization protesters and ensure their voices aren't heard due to violence, Black Bloc attack police then police run straight past them and attack innocent protesters, in Canada they were wearing police boots.
Anyone can non-violently protest and anyone can be anonymous but Black Bloc is characterized by violence and vandalism.
LOOL. you "Occupussies" can non-violently protest till you're all black and blue in the face, they won't listen.
But keep on with the ehem, "love and peace", 'non-violence' mantra hoping to make "real change". Lol. the Establishment, the status quo likes it that way....... ;D
@setv1 There are forms of non-violent protest that are more effective than others, I have as much a problem with the love and peace hippies as I have with you "let's smash shit" idiots, you're opposite extremes and you're both full of fail.
This is what Black Blocheads do though, anyone who criticizes their worthless fail tactics that only do harm is cast as a rainbow painting flower picking hippy.
Like I said I'm not opposed to violence, WHEN IT'S EFFECTIVE, all Black Bloc has is FAIL.
If you don't want to learn history that's fine with me just because it wasn't put on your news stations or made new your times dosen't mean it dosen't exist. I think if would be benifical to you to check out the history of such tactics before making such bold and hollow remarkes.
@godwinrocker Yeah the history of these tactics is constant failure and a bunch of idiots who don't know correlation from causation thinking that a protest surge from a factory lay off is somehow their doing. Gimme a break.
All Black Blocheads are doing is crushing the message, and if they're not violent why the fk are they identifying with trend clique tactics characterized by violence and vandalism?
Black Bloc isn't Anarchy it's mostly idiots & cops and some really naive types
@Laughingblades Oooooh, look at you, someone who professes to abhor violence uses instead name calling and ad hominem attacks to espouse your ehem, "new" movement, to change the way of things for humanity, for this planet.
You are full of shit, just like your stupid Occupussy movement.
@setv1 I don't profess to abhor violence you idiot and you really need to learn what an ad hominem is, an insult is not automatically an ad hom, it's only an ad hom to use character assassination as a substitute for an argument. I understand how Black Bloc trend kiddies can make the mistake.
The 1% take occupy seriously and have proven it, in their letters to one another, and in their cunning methods to deny people the right to protest. They fear the virility of the ideas
@setv1 I'm not representing Occupy, personally I'm fine with violence, WHEN IT'S EFFECTIVE, but what Black Blocheads are doing around Occupy isn't effective, it's goaless counter productive stupidity, unless the goal is to sabotage Occupy and make sure the message doesn't get out, then they're doing a damn good job because when people see a bunch of violence and vandalism all they talk about is violence and vandalism, the economic issues, the corruption, all brushed aside. Well done.
@Laughingblades said: "The 1% take occupy seriously... they fear the virility of ideas."...
LOOL. you're tripping. the 1% don't fear the occupy, if they did, they wouldn't have dared evict the camps. How many "Occupussies" have been arrested? in the thousands. How many Wall Street banksters were arrested? Zero.
The Establishment don't fear Occupussy. How can they fear their own creation?......
@setv1 The 1% proved they were afraid of Occupy in their own correspondence and emails.
"if they did, they wouldn't have dared evict the camps"
See this is how primitive and mindless you Black Blocheads are, the fact that they're so eager to evict shows their fear, they spend tens of millions lobbying and bleed the states dry to try to keep occupy suppressed, they don't their ideas or any real solutions getting out, turning it into woodstock failed so they're turning it into Black Bloc
@setv1 Ideas are more than men, the biggest threat to those in power is that ideas that expose their corruption, undermine their authority, challenge their legitimacy, ect will become viral and impossible to contain, leading to mass demands of action and shutdowns of trade. Ideas which lead to the people seizing power are dangerous to the 1%, they co-opt them, they smear and misrepresent them, and they make sure they're ignored or associated with violence. Black Bloc fills the last two.
@Laughingblades Uhmm... Anonypussy and Occupussy can expose corruptions, protest peacefully all they want, but the powers that don't listen. The system is completely rotten. You cannot change the system by working within the system.
Bottom line, regardless Black Bloc tactics, Anonypussy and Occupussy ain't going nowhere with their 'peaceful' protests, lame temporary denial of service attacks, even with their 'exposures' blah, blah, blah, and that's exactly where the Establishment wants it.
@setv1 What Black Bloc does is help make sure the message doesn't get out for people to make a difference, it's like government sabotage, that's probably why so many are cops :3
LOL. I have an idea for you. Get your head outta yer ass.
If you think the 1% will give up their entrenched wealth and power just because a bunch of homeless bums, hippies banging drums, the naive and the gullible carried protest signs and begged "Please, Mommy, and Daddy at Wall Street", you people are in for a rude awakening. the only thing you losers will be occupying is the jail cell. LOL
This is ignorant bullshit. you didn't exists before occupy we have been around for years, thanx for showing up late, and stop trying to take credit for years of hard work that isn't yours. I hope that this really isn't Anonymous
@setv1 Wait I take that back. For years Black Bloc has destroyed every protest that ever posed any threat to the 1%, helped empower a police state, made protesters look like violent gangs so that everyone would focus on the violence forget the message, making the footage look like the police were responding to provocations, ect.
Kiddie please, Black Bloc is characterized by violence and vandalism, and you ain't gonna out violence the state. Occupy has real potential, don't ruin it.
@TheReverseCoder Uhmmm..... let me reframe your comment, "any troll could make a video and call it Anonymous"..... or to be more precise, any troll could claim to be Anonymous and pretend to be fighting for a cause.....
I care. Mostly because it has already moved from property destruction to threats against human beings, including other activists. Will one of our own have to kill one of our own before anybody realized that we are lemming marching to destruction? Wh am I? Somebody who wants to be an activist without dieing at the hands of other activists. I am angry too.
@TheReverseCoder If you support anonymous and don't support black bloc then you are a hypocrite because the two are the same.
Both are anarchic anonymous phenomenons without membership, that start events where everyone that wishes can take part in, to cause damage or send a message to organisations worldwide that commit crimes against humanity.
@TheReverseCoder I hope you're being sarcastic. Because apparently you think Black Bloc is wrong but shooting people is right? And you don't see anything wrong about this? Nothing comes to mind about having, you know.. a twisted worldview?
Who can say 'its not anonymous'? Anyone can declare themselves anonymous, and the user has made this identity. Therefore saying its 'fake' or 'not anonymous' doesn't technically make any sense.
I say rip off the masks and photograph. Police who hide as black block must be exposed. Occupy was meant to use peaceful protest - always. When you attack peaceful protestors it IS NOT okay. Use your own methods on your own dime, away from protests that are meant to be peaceful
This kind of behavior defeats our mission in all the ways this video states. Black Bloc tactics not welcomed in the majority of Occupy locations at this time. your actions and agenda in the name of Occupy# are premature.
said Anonymous to Black Bloc, "it is your cowardice in hiding behind the banner of the Occupy movement".... bwahaha! the pot calling the kettle black.... ;D
Agent provocateurs have been exposed for years now but Anonymous is ignorent because they fial to understand who the real enemy is. Banksters looted America and Euroupe for TRILLIONS and they are getting away with it.
Hello. I am an Anarchist. I agree with many of your criticisms of *some* black bloc tactics.
The problem however is that black bloc is not a group, its a tactic in itself. The black bloc tactic is not inherently bad, but the way it has been used at some recent protests has been bad....Hiding behind protesters is bad. 'Indymedia' type journalists should not be a target, but corporate media should be. Small shops should never be a target, but corporate media might be. We are not all the same.
@bugmyass God damn you people are stupid. That video shows me responding to the people who posted it on twitter, I followed the link from twitter here.
I mean I understand that you Blocheads and Planfags are generally unintelligent but for real? That's some serious Sherlock Holmes shit there.
Rule 2: Everything coming from or out of mass/corporate media is coming from government;
Rule 3: By design/definition, government is your enemy. It always has been. It always will be. If he, she or it proposes to rule (own) you, he, she or it is your enemy. Know this.
If you've deluded yourself into thinking this, that or the other group/government will be 'different,' you fall in the class of individuals to which most refer as useful idiots.
I recognize that you’ve managed to find certain peculiar fringe elements in anarchism saying some pretty extreme things, it’s not hard to do, especially since such people are much easier to find on the internet than in real life, but it would be difficult to come up with any “Black Bloc anarchist” making a statement as extreme as this.
After all, if a group is made up exclusively of violent fanatics who cannot be reasoned with, intent on our destruction, what else can we really do? This is the language of violence in its purest form. Far more than “fuck the police.” To see this kind of language employed by someone who claims to be speaking in the name of non-violence is genuinely extraordinary.
when it’s laid out in this fashion, that this is precisely the sort of language and argument that, historically, has been invoked by those encouraging one group of people to physically attack, ethnically cleanse, or exterminate another—in fact, the sort of language and argument that is almost never invoked in any other circumstance.
The reason I say this is because, whatever your intentions, it is very hard to read your statement as anything but an appeal to violence. After all, what are you basically saying about what you call “Black Bloc anarchists”?
1) they are not part of us
2) they are consciously malevolent in their intentions
2. Black Blocs do not represent any specific ideological, or for that matter anti-ideological position. Black Blocsi n the past to be made up primarily of anarchists but most contain participants whose politics vary. They are not united by ideology, merely a feeling that creating a bloc of people with explicitly revolutionary politics and ready to confront the forces of the order through more militant tactics if required, is, on the particular occasion when they assemble, a useful thing to do.
One of the ideas of having a Black Bloc is that everyone who comes to a protest should know where the people likely to engage in militant action are, and thus easily be able to avoid it if that’s what they wish to do.
1. Black Bloc is a tactic, not a group. It is a tactic where activists don masks and black clothing (originally leather jackets in Germany, later, hoodies in America), as a gesture of anonymity, solidarity, and to indicate to others that they are prepared, if the situation calls for it, for militant action. The very nature of the tactic belies the accusation that they are trying to hijack a movement and endanger others.
Anonymous is right about the petty and pathetic vandalism accomplishing nothing. It will discredit your movement and allow the Thugs to justify violence. The ones here who are going along with the so called BB and criticizing Anonymous for talking good sense are evidently cops who want a reason to practice their sadism on the protesters.
To all you misguided fools! Breach of the peace is man's law; you break it and you must pay! But let me be clear to all you paid TROLLS on YT. If you come into the camps or peaceful protest and gown mask and carry out activities of violence then you need to be exposed regardless of what name you call yourself. if you joined me as a friend in a PEACEFUL protest then commit violence to cause police to arrest me by association, frankly you're not my friend YOU ARE MY ENEMY and I will expose you!!!
anarchists are the only ones taking any action. it's called an uprising. sitting peacefully and whining about your demands does not achieve shit. god anon is so irrelevant now,
@swoo47 Black Block uses coercive actions against anybody it disagrees with or dislikes. Thus, they do not deserve to be called Anarchists. They are Nihilists. There is a difference.
Some comments are focusing on who the video poster is, or whether that person speaks for anyone. Focus: anyone committing vandalism is both destroying the reputation of everyone protesting theft and fraud and inequality, and defying the ethic of a movement that works on consensus. If you don't want to be non-violent, at least don't show up at other people's protests.
what gave it away for me that they were undercover cops were that the men were removed but never charged after being accused provoke a riot. But again BB is a tactic a Girl Scout could be a BB
@cramphound What about all the ridiculous action of this country's law enforcer's? Thats what I just can't take anymore. Anonymous is doing something about it. Someone has to and the laws don't apply to so many of us. So most cant fight back within the system.
Black blocks are not revolutionary, but having said that, the "moral high ground" always belongs to the class who has the power, the media, and academia.
This is fake. If this was really anonymous they wouldn't downplay a form of protests. I mean they break the fucking law every day for crying out loud.
Well, then, Anonymous, give the 99% a list of addresses and GPS points. Face the fact that you are the 1% of the cyber elite, and we 老百姓 have no way to accomplish these tasks. Where does the military-prison-media-pharmaco-whutzits complex lay their comfy little heads? I wonder if they could sleep as easily at night with a drum circle on their front lawn?
@Afroblackah I mostly agree with you. I AM an anarchist but i don't always agree with the black bloc tactic, bu i don't dismiss it wholeheartedly either. It seems the most principled reason most people criticize the black bloc is for their supposed "unnecessary violence". Is the Occupy movement 100% pacifist? If so it will surely fail.
The people generally taking part in BlackBloc activity just want to take action, they have been in this scene for way longer than most of you and in the meanwhile have grown more impatient and angry. If you don't like them smashing windows, then your movement should give them a task other than just "walking", something actually effective. Use their anger, and direct it, rather than letting it go rampant. Propose some ideas.
Got me on a semantic technocality? Fine, then, People who wear the atire that has come to be associated with the black block movement, to the extent that it can now be regarded as the equivlant of a uniform." Real anarchists look and act like individuals. They find people who believe what the believe by talking to people. They don't dress alike to lose thiere individuality, and they don't behave like a mindless mob.
@milascave2 Who are you to tell who is a real anarchist and who is not? Who are you to tell how people are allowed to dress? Who are you to tell people can't group up? Who are you to tell people can't be angry? AFAIK the only thing that matters for Anarchists is humanity. And if you get your panties all up in a bunch because some people decide to vandalize the so-called property of people who commit crimes against humanity, or resist against police who defend these criminals well,.. who cares.
@Sharangir GO find your own party. You are cowards who hide behind peaceful protesters. Blac bloc tactics are for COWARDS. Don't think you are anything else.
@TheBigBigSean First of all black bloc = just dressing in black as a huge bunch for unanimity so the police can't target people to drag them out of the crowd and for anonymity so you don't get FBI knocking at your door or get arrested at your job for being spotted on camera, it has nothing to do with what the bloc is doing. Secondly: Vandalism is destruction and destruction is neither peaceful NOR violent.
And last: The movement will decide whether or not they are welcome, Mr. Dictator.
@setv1 Do you even know what the point is with DDOS, it's just to shut them down for some time if it's 1 hour or 10 days it does not matter... and it has nothing to do with change... Kid you need to read and study some more, because you are way behind. And one more thing DDOS is not hacking ether.. so i don't see your point, and if you think DDOS is the only thing Anons do, then you are really lost. A lot happens behind the scene that is not going to be posted on youtube, FB or twitter.
@setv1 of cause it's controlled nothing is out of control, that would be stupid and unproductive. yes anyone knows the Gov is corrupt, but you did not know (unless you are from the Gov) all the shit they do without the papers and info they expose. DDOS is not lame, it’s like the samll annoyances in life it's easy to prevent, yet no one does anything about it. it serves that purpose, to be annoying.that’s it the Gov use resources and time.Don’t put more into it then what it is annoyances.
@TheReverseCoder Oh, really? Exposure of corruption, war crimes and wrongdoing didn't exist before Anonymous?
Ever heard of Pentagon Papers, the MyLai massacre, Watergate?
Believe what you want to believe, but i'm not buying it. Temporary denial of service of websites only to have them restored again is useless. Neither are your leaks, if they did, we'd have already millions of people rising up. Did it happen?? NO.
It takes more than being annoying to change things.
@setv1 "Exposure of corruption, war crimes and wrongdoing didn't exist before Anonymous?" <--did i say that. Don't think so, there been leaks before. lulz
Yes i do know Pentagon Papers from 1971, the MyLai massacre (1968 Vietnam show USA as the terrorists they are), Watergate.. But you have never seen so many leaks as from Anon and Wikileaks.. 100 times more exposed today than ever before. It takes more than being annoying to change things. <-- you are 100% Right. :) more is being done.
Study Gandhi. He succeeded in freeing India, nonviolently. He was an inspiration to Martin Luther King. If you think carefully about applying the tactics of satyagraha, the power of soul and love, you will realize that they make you relatively impervious to infiltrators' (and those who are foolishly co-opted) divide and conquer tactics, for you will be above them, and if your enemies touch you, the light of truth that they are the ones who have done wrong will be shining square upon them.
@TarpaperShackSongs lol gandhi shield, gandhi was not the sole reason of indias "independence" .. learn, but don't believe everything anyone tells you, even if it's accepted widely.
@seigneurvoland666 I am certainly aware that causation is a complex equation, that there were other factors in India, and that there are no perfect heroes. I simply suggest that those who want to make change would benefit from this particular area of study. All may come to their own conclusions. I do think nonviolence, as a moral and as a strategy, is best applied doggedly, that is without recourse to violence in 99.999% of situations. Gandhi left a door a crack open for extreme emergencies.
The British left India because it the colony became unprofitable. That's why it worked. French Indochina and Dutch East Indies were unprofitable too but the imperial powers expected profits in the future, while the British did not. Capitalists will always expect to make profits, so non-violent tactics don't work here.
@GodOfTheInternets - non-profitability was probably a factor, or a reasonable interpretation of a large part of the general unpleasantness that was caused to the British. One might say it was the bottom line in a sea of inconvenience and unpleasantness, which included worldwide embarrassment. The British Empire was capitalist, though; India was part of the capital. Profitability can also take many forms, and any of them can be targeted by nonviolent resistance.
fake, posted by the government not anonymous. the original ad buster call out poster for occupy has black bloc in it. black bloc has been a part of ows since it's inception
Lao Tze "The Art Of War" ... First step, secure the will of heaven ... that is, establish your moral superiority to the enemy, articulate your moral principles and stick to them.
Fucking clueless. I doubt this is Anonymous, but who knows. Black Blocs are made up of occupy members and others. Sorry, but it's not going to work. Militancy isn't going anywhere.
The most sickening thing about this is that this person is calling for people to hate their comrades within the movement. This is a clear attack on the unity of the movement with an intention to get us to fight among ourselves. This is far more dangerous than if the cops arrested every one of us. If people accept that it is okay to divide ourselves for any reason then we will fail. One good thing I picked up from Edward Abbey is this, NEVER SACRIFICE A FRIEND TO AN IDEOLOGY. Solidarity forever
@mineralandrollcello You have totally misread Anonymous’ announcement; he does not refer to the genuine non-violent peaceful ‘occupy’ protesters, but to the Black Block thugs who are mostly criminal police infiltrators and agents provocateurs, terrorists and vandals. The ordinary protesting citizenry do not fall into that category. Listen to the video again, and watch the actions of the Black Block thugs.
@wtfisthatsmell Perhaps you were watching the video with your eyes shut? Watch again, but with your eyes open, and see the black-masked thugs - Black Block - in their terrorism mode of destruction. They are not the peaceful non-violent activists, but thugs belonging to the so-called law and order brigade, commonly known as police.
@wtfisthatsmell You, therefore, are one of the criminal thug-police, or a friend of them, and don a black mask to disguise yourself while you vandalise and destroy!
@mineralandrollcello did you and the 12 thumbs up really listen to the video? I think not! The video rightly exposes the enemies of the occupy movement. If you come into the camps or peaceful protest and gown mask and carry out activities of violence then you need to be exposed regardless of what name you call yourself. if you joined me as a friend in a protest then commit violence to cause police to arrest me by association, frankly you're not my friend YOU ARE MY ENEMY and I will expose you!
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godwinrocker 1 day ago
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Yeah i'm opting out of this pointless argument with you and going back to work, at a free clinc and help free school along with comunial babysitting for the community. Do the potlucks twice a week for anyone who shows up, and when i can i will dress like a ninja and try to burn down as much corporate shit as i can. Anonymous fuck you your only a bandwagon blackbloc has been doing this shit since the 70's.
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godwinrocker 1 day ago
Slightly hypocritical there "anonymous". Going on about how the black block gives the establishment reason to crack down on occupy and peaceful protestors. Kind of like how hacking government websites and politicians gives the establishment reason to tighten internet usage and cost us our privacy online. I'd say there's a time and a place for both but admittedly most times I see any violent protestors in North American they're pointless idiotic acts which leads me to think they're provocateurs.
mbonter1 4 days ago
FUCK THE BLACK BLOCK! YES YES YES!!!!! This video gets over 9000 out of 10!!!!!!1
TheCaptainAnonymous 5 days ago
ignorance is bliss and to you ignorant who allow yourself's to be controlled by this socialist society of economic empires and monopolies that control every aspect of your life whether you know it or not, then it is best to keep your forked tongue behind your teeth.
crue313 5 days ago
Black bloc is NOT Anonymous, nor are they Occupy. Neither Anonymous or Occupy support violent actions. Anybody who thinks that anonymous or the occupy movement is about violence and terrorism is an a complete imbecile. If you can't see that there need to changes made to this society that we have come to know then you are part of the problem.
crue313 5 days ago
Whatever, Im sick of occupy always playing the victim card, the police will keep bashing no matter what, black bloc at least accepts this fact and doesn't stand for it. all sides of this argument are correct in some aspects but wrong in others.
spookichanxxx 6 days ago
Black Bloc is government owned! Are people really that ignorant!???? ugh!!!!
petiteAlicious 1 week ago
Anonymous shut down the chat with chris hedges last nice. He had just recived a ton of shit for his naive short sidedness on an article that said black bloc is bad for occupy.I'll call this the nail in the coffin if you are what you say you are then you should know that the ones acting disagree with your stance.
godwinrocker 1 week ago
@godwinrocker The Plan isn't Anon, they link their facebook pages and broadcast their true IP addresses and all they know how to do is point and click with loic, which they can't even use right half the time, and instead sit around in tinychat stoned out of their minds showing their actual faces and talking about how Ron Paul will save the world.
Laughingblades 1 week ago
If you beleive the media 1. 2. if you think that the media needed balck bloc to "discredit" the G20 protests then i would kindly ask to re read a history book that hasn't been disneyfied, to start getting some real answers, may i recomened noam chomsky, michael parenti, something besides the using the same media that you claim to be fighting as a source. You are only doing a dis-service to your self.
godwinrocker 1 week ago
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subdu3d 1 week ago
black bloc is making it worst... I think they are working under the cops!
amdramatic 1 week ago
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setv1 1 week ago
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@Laughingblades Get a grip, little boy who didn't grow up.
The truth of the matter is, even your Occupussy movement whom you claim to represent the 99%, is not supported by all of the 99%. That IS a fact that gullible and naive people like you either fail to comprehend, or are in denial of.
If all of the 99% supported your cause, you'd have millions marching behind you, that didn't happen. You had at the most thousands. Metro New York has about 22 million people, they didn't all join you.
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setv1 1 week ago
Black Bloc started up in the early 80's in germany in defence of their squats, first time it was used in the U.S was in 1991 during the gulf war protests. The biggest one was in 1999 in philly at Mumia rally and was completly non violent. I know for a fact they have been succesfull in not have kkk rallies come back in certain towns in the midwest. Since non violence has only one solution to solve everything you can't reasonably expect it to be the answer for everything.
godwinrocker 1 week ago
@godwinrocker Bullshit, in the history of every time Black Bloc has been in the news, it's been used by the 1% to discredit G20 protesters and anti-globalization protesters and ensure their voices aren't heard due to violence, Black Bloc attack police then police run straight past them and attack innocent protesters, in Canada they were wearing police boots.
Anyone can non-violently protest and anyone can be anonymous but Black Bloc is characterized by violence and vandalism.
Laughingblades 1 week ago
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setv1 6 days ago
@Laughingblades said: "Anyone can non-violently protest.."
LOOL. you "Occupussies" can non-violently protest till you're all black and blue in the face, they won't listen.
But keep on with the ehem, "love and peace", 'non-violence' mantra hoping to make "real change". Lol. the Establishment, the status quo likes it that way....... ;D
setv1 6 days ago
@setv1 There are forms of non-violent protest that are more effective than others, I have as much a problem with the love and peace hippies as I have with you "let's smash shit" idiots, you're opposite extremes and you're both full of fail.
This is what Black Blocheads do though, anyone who criticizes their worthless fail tactics that only do harm is cast as a rainbow painting flower picking hippy.
Like I said I'm not opposed to violence, WHEN IT'S EFFECTIVE, all Black Bloc has is FAIL.
Laughingblades 6 days ago
@Laughingblades u fucking rule dude
TheCaptainAnonymous 5 days ago
If you don't want to learn history that's fine with me just because it wasn't put on your news stations or made new your times dosen't mean it dosen't exist. I think if would be benifical to you to check out the history of such tactics before making such bold and hollow remarkes.
godwinrocker 1 week ago
@godwinrocker Yeah the history of these tactics is constant failure and a bunch of idiots who don't know correlation from causation thinking that a protest surge from a factory lay off is somehow their doing. Gimme a break.
All Black Blocheads are doing is crushing the message, and if they're not violent why the fk are they identifying with trend clique tactics characterized by violence and vandalism?
Black Bloc isn't Anarchy it's mostly idiots & cops and some really naive types
Laughingblades 1 week ago
@Laughingblades Oooooh, look at you, someone who professes to abhor violence uses instead name calling and ad hominem attacks to espouse your ehem, "new" movement, to change the way of things for humanity, for this planet.
You are full of shit, just like your stupid Occupussy movement.
setv1 1 week ago
@setv1 I don't profess to abhor violence you idiot and you really need to learn what an ad hominem is, an insult is not automatically an ad hom, it's only an ad hom to use character assassination as a substitute for an argument. I understand how Black Bloc trend kiddies can make the mistake.
The 1% take occupy seriously and have proven it, in their letters to one another, and in their cunning methods to deny people the right to protest. They fear the virility of the ideas
You crush that
Laughingblades 1 week ago
@Laughingblades said: "I don't profess to abhor violence you idiot."
Ooooh, now you and Occupussy movement don't abhor violence but only certain kinds of violence, name calling and ad hominem attacks.
At least, you and your Occupussy movement are consistent, you IDIOTS don't know what you want. Make up your mind STUPID.
setv1 1 week ago
@setv1 I'm not representing Occupy, personally I'm fine with violence, WHEN IT'S EFFECTIVE, but what Black Blocheads are doing around Occupy isn't effective, it's goaless counter productive stupidity, unless the goal is to sabotage Occupy and make sure the message doesn't get out, then they're doing a damn good job because when people see a bunch of violence and vandalism all they talk about is violence and vandalism, the economic issues, the corruption, all brushed aside. Well done.
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@Laughingblades said: "I understand how Black Bloc trend kiddies".....
People like you, who use Japanese anime cartoon images for their YouTube profile pics should not refer to others as "trend kiddies".
It only exposes the kind of hypocrites you Occupussies and Anonypussies are.
setv1 1 week ago
@Laughingblades said: "The 1% take occupy seriously... they fear the virility of ideas."...
LOOL. you're tripping. the 1% don't fear the occupy, if they did, they wouldn't have dared evict the camps. How many "Occupussies" have been arrested? in the thousands. How many Wall Street banksters were arrested? Zero.
The Establishment don't fear Occupussy. How can they fear their own creation?......
setv1 6 days ago
@setv1 The 1% proved they were afraid of Occupy in their own correspondence and emails.
"if they did, they wouldn't have dared evict the camps"
See this is how primitive and mindless you Black Blocheads are, the fact that they're so eager to evict shows their fear, they spend tens of millions lobbying and bleed the states dry to try to keep occupy suppressed, they don't their ideas or any real solutions getting out, turning it into woodstock failed so they're turning it into Black Bloc
Laughingblades 6 days ago
@setv1 Ideas are more than men, the biggest threat to those in power is that ideas that expose their corruption, undermine their authority, challenge their legitimacy, ect will become viral and impossible to contain, leading to mass demands of action and shutdowns of trade. Ideas which lead to the people seizing power are dangerous to the 1%, they co-opt them, they smear and misrepresent them, and they make sure they're ignored or associated with violence. Black Bloc fills the last two.
Laughingblades 1 week ago
@Laughingblades Uhmm... Anonypussy and Occupussy can expose corruptions, protest peacefully all they want, but the powers that don't listen. The system is completely rotten. You cannot change the system by working within the system.
Bottom line, regardless Black Bloc tactics, Anonypussy and Occupussy ain't going nowhere with their 'peaceful' protests, lame temporary denial of service attacks, even with their 'exposures' blah, blah, blah, and that's exactly where the Establishment wants it.
setv1 1 week ago
@setv1 What Black Bloc does is help make sure the message doesn't get out for people to make a difference, it's like government sabotage, that's probably why so many are cops :3
Laughingblades 1 week ago
@Laughingblades said: "Ideas are more than men.."
LOL. I have an idea for you. Get your head outta yer ass.
If you think the 1% will give up their entrenched wealth and power just because a bunch of homeless bums, hippies banging drums, the naive and the gullible carried protest signs and begged "Please, Mommy, and Daddy at Wall Street", you people are in for a rude awakening. the only thing you losers will be occupying is the jail cell. LOL
setv1 6 days ago
@setv1 LOL I have a suggestion for you.
THINK. You think the 1% are gonna be bothered by some idiot punk smashing a window or throwing bottles at the police. God damn you're stupid.
Laughingblades 6 days ago
@Laughingblades, your co-opted, controlled Occupussy movement is going nowhere.
It's time to get out of your mom's basement.
Looks like you are the kiddie who never grew up...
setv1 1 week ago
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This is ignorant bullshit. you didn't exists before occupy we have been around for years, thanx for showing up late, and stop trying to take credit for years of hard work that isn't yours. I hope that this really isn't Anonymous
godwinrocker 2 weeks ago
@godwinrocker For years Black Bloc has achieved absolutely nothing
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setv1 1 week ago
@Laughingblades said: "For years Black Bloc has achieved absolutely nothing."
Uhmm.... for years, any controlled opposition, be it those who use Black Bloc tactics, Anonypussy, Occupy, is meant to achieve absolutely nothing.
setv1 1 week ago
@setv1 Wait I take that back. For years Black Bloc has destroyed every protest that ever posed any threat to the 1%, helped empower a police state, made protesters look like violent gangs so that everyone would focus on the violence forget the message, making the footage look like the police were responding to provocations, ect.
Kiddie please, Black Bloc is characterized by violence and vandalism, and you ain't gonna out violence the state. Occupy has real potential, don't ruin it.
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@Laughingblades said: "you ain't gonna out violence the state. Occupy has real potential."
Uhm.... neither can you out peace the state controlled opposition such as Occupussy and Anonypussy.....
Your face has real potential to become shield against police brutality. Go for it!
Idiot.
setv1 1 week ago
@TheReverseCoder said: "you are really lost"..
Uhmm, me 'lost'? On the contrary, I think you are..
anybody can make these dumb videos and claim to be "Anonymous"......
setv1 2 weeks ago
@setv1 you are lost my little troll, i already said that, anyone could make any video and call it Anonymous..... lulz
TheReverseCoder 2 weeks ago
@TheReverseCoder Uhmmm..... let me reframe your comment, "any troll could make a video and call it Anonymous"..... or to be more precise, any troll could claim to be Anonymous and pretend to be fighting for a cause.....
setv1 1 week ago
I care. Mostly because it has already moved from property destruction to threats against human beings, including other activists. Will one of our own have to kill one of our own before anybody realized that we are lemming marching to destruction? Wh am I? Somebody who wants to be an activist without dieing at the hands of other activists. I am angry too.
milascave2 2 weeks ago 2
Anonypussy and Occupussy.... making sure no real change happens...
setv1 2 weeks ago 3
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@TheReverseCoder If you support anonymous and don't support black bloc then you are a hypocrite because the two are the same.
Both are anarchic anonymous phenomenons without membership, that start events where everyone that wishes can take part in, to cause damage or send a message to organisations worldwide that commit crimes against humanity.
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Sharangir 2 weeks ago
So many fake video´s on facetube.
TheReverseCoder 2 weeks ago
Black Bloc are just losers nothing else.. they should just be shot.. no one will ever miss them..
TheReverseCoder 2 weeks ago
@TheReverseCoder I hope you're being sarcastic. Because apparently you think Black Bloc is wrong but shooting people is right? And you don't see anything wrong about this? Nothing comes to mind about having, you know.. a twisted worldview?
Sharangir 2 weeks ago
Who can say 'its not anonymous'? Anyone can declare themselves anonymous, and the user has made this identity. Therefore saying its 'fake' or 'not anonymous' doesn't technically make any sense.
ScrumpyJack1234 2 weeks ago
109 people want #occupy to fail.
TheBigBigSean 2 weeks ago
I say rip off the masks and photograph. Police who hide as black block must be exposed. Occupy was meant to use peaceful protest - always. When you attack peaceful protestors it IS NOT okay. Use your own methods on your own dime, away from protests that are meant to be peaceful
This kind of behavior defeats our mission in all the ways this video states. Black Bloc tactics not welcomed in the majority of Occupy locations at this time. your actions and agenda in the name of Occupy# are premature.
purplemuse48 2 weeks ago
said Anonymous to Black Bloc, "it is your cowardice in hiding behind the banner of the Occupy movement".... bwahaha! the pot calling the kettle black.... ;D
setv1 2 weeks ago
What are the chances that Anonymous and Black Bloc are both controlled by the same small group of people who control everything else in your life?
AnotherGlenn 2 weeks ago
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Agent provocateurs have been exposed for years now but Anonymous is ignorent because they fial to understand who the real enemy is. Banksters looted America and Euroupe for TRILLIONS and they are getting away with it.
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stophypocrisy 2 weeks ago
Hello. I am an Anarchist. I agree with many of your criticisms of *some* black bloc tactics.
The problem however is that black bloc is not a group, its a tactic in itself. The black bloc tactic is not inherently bad, but the way it has been used at some recent protests has been bad....Hiding behind protesters is bad. 'Indymedia' type journalists should not be a target, but corporate media should be. Small shops should never be a target, but corporate media might be. We are not all the same.
blackredmedia 2 weeks ago
Stupid. Not even well done/
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Messed up kid look this up on youtube. #Occupy #Anonymous Warning to #BlackBloc FAKE Anon Response
sleightofsound 2 weeks ago
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sleightofsound 2 weeks ago
obviously not Anonymous,
but nice try.
Solidarity with the Bloc. Solidarity with Occupy. Solidarity with all who resist.
YoungGringos 2 weeks ago 6
@setv1 Occupiers are peaceful, blackbloc is not. Thus they are not Occupiers lulz
AOFOsuarezj7 2 weeks ago
@darrenkis Lulz there are no official anonymous videos or uploaders, anyone is anonymous
AOFOsuarezj7 2 weeks ago
obvious troll is obvious /watch?v=0nAKcWZST1M
bugmyass 2 weeks ago 8
@bugmyass God damn you people are stupid. That video shows me responding to the people who posted it on twitter, I followed the link from twitter here.
I mean I understand that you Blocheads and Planfags are generally unintelligent but for real? That's some serious Sherlock Holmes shit there.
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@bugmyass You're an idiot.
Laughingblades 1 week ago
LOL. i love it when these ehem, "Occupiers" eat their own.. ;D
it's like one Occupier saying to another to 'Leave'. bwahaha! oh, the irony!
setv1 2 weeks ago
Fake. Not Anonymous.
darrenkis 2 weeks ago 18
Rule 1: Never believe anything government says;
Rule 2: Everything coming from or out of mass/corporate media is coming from government;
Rule 3: By design/definition, government is your enemy. It always has been. It always will be. If he, she or it proposes to rule (own) you, he, she or it is your enemy. Know this.
If you've deluded yourself into thinking this, that or the other group/government will be 'different,' you fall in the class of individuals to which most refer as useful idiots.
transquesta 2 weeks ago
SORRY, that was so out of order, there is a character limit on comments. Which in my opinion is extremely deleterious to meaningful discussion.
Terijian 2 weeks ago
I recognize that you’ve managed to find certain peculiar fringe elements in anarchism saying some pretty extreme things, it’s not hard to do, especially since such people are much easier to find on the internet than in real life, but it would be difficult to come up with any “Black Bloc anarchist” making a statement as extreme as this.
Terijian 2 weeks ago
After all, if a group is made up exclusively of violent fanatics who cannot be reasoned with, intent on our destruction, what else can we really do? This is the language of violence in its purest form. Far more than “fuck the police.” To see this kind of language employed by someone who claims to be speaking in the name of non-violence is genuinely extraordinary.
Terijian 2 weeks ago
when it’s laid out in this fashion, that this is precisely the sort of language and argument that, historically, has been invoked by those encouraging one group of people to physically attack, ethnically cleanse, or exterminate another—in fact, the sort of language and argument that is almost never invoked in any other circumstance.
Terijian 2 weeks ago
The reason I say this is because, whatever your intentions, it is very hard to read your statement as anything but an appeal to violence. After all, what are you basically saying about what you call “Black Bloc anarchists”?
1) they are not part of us
2) they are consciously malevolent in their intentions
3) they are violent
4) they cannot be reasoned with
5) they are all the same
6) they wish to destroy us
7) they are a cancer that must be excised
Surely you must recognize.........
Terijian 2 weeks ago
2. Black Blocs do not represent any specific ideological, or for that matter anti-ideological position. Black Blocsi n the past to be made up primarily of anarchists but most contain participants whose politics vary. They are not united by ideology, merely a feeling that creating a bloc of people with explicitly revolutionary politics and ready to confront the forces of the order through more militant tactics if required, is, on the particular occasion when they assemble, a useful thing to do.
Terijian 2 weeks ago
One of the ideas of having a Black Bloc is that everyone who comes to a protest should know where the people likely to engage in militant action are, and thus easily be able to avoid it if that’s what they wish to do.
Terijian 2 weeks ago
1. Black Bloc is a tactic, not a group. It is a tactic where activists don masks and black clothing (originally leather jackets in Germany, later, hoodies in America), as a gesture of anonymity, solidarity, and to indicate to others that they are prepared, if the situation calls for it, for militant action. The very nature of the tactic belies the accusation that they are trying to hijack a movement and endanger others.
Terijian 2 weeks ago
Anonymous is right about the petty and pathetic vandalism accomplishing nothing. It will discredit your movement and allow the Thugs to justify violence. The ones here who are going along with the so called BB and criticizing Anonymous for talking good sense are evidently cops who want a reason to practice their sadism on the protesters.
malsagoth 2 weeks ago 2
To all you misguided fools! Breach of the peace is man's law; you break it and you must pay! But let me be clear to all you paid TROLLS on YT. If you come into the camps or peaceful protest and gown mask and carry out activities of violence then you need to be exposed regardless of what name you call yourself. if you joined me as a friend in a PEACEFUL protest then commit violence to cause police to arrest me by association, frankly you're not my friend YOU ARE MY ENEMY and I will expose you!!!
OriginalMyTurn2Speak 2 weeks ago 3
i support black block and occupy
TheDoxmusic 2 weeks ago
Divide and Conquer?
crazypunker25 2 weeks ago
please see:
DAVID GRAEBER
Concerning the Violent Peace-Police
An Open Letter to Chris Hedges [about black bloc]
thinkahol 2 weeks ago
anarchists are the only ones taking any action. it's called an uprising. sitting peacefully and whining about your demands does not achieve shit. god anon is so irrelevant now,
swoo47 2 weeks ago
@swoo47 Black Block uses coercive actions against anybody it disagrees with or dislikes. Thus, they do not deserve to be called Anarchists. They are Nihilists. There is a difference.
milascave2 2 weeks ago
Fuck Anonydouche!
SolingenSword 2 weeks ago
The sad irony of this is, is that he is wearing a V-mask. V, the anarchist 'terrorist' who used violence to achieve his goals, and blew shit up, lol.
GodOfTheInternets 2 weeks ago
thers prolly good people in both, hopefully they succeed
DewkChronic 2 weeks ago
Some comments are focusing on who the video poster is, or whether that person speaks for anyone. Focus: anyone committing vandalism is both destroying the reputation of everyone protesting theft and fraud and inequality, and defying the ethic of a movement that works on consensus. If you don't want to be non-violent, at least don't show up at other people's protests.
webcelt 2 weeks ago
DevourSec Come at us
You are not Anon
Do not fuck with us
TheAnonymouse777 2 weeks ago
nplusonemag . com / concerning-the-violent-peace-police
pissingeverywhere 2 weeks ago
Oh sure, all black bloc people are insane hooligans out to break shit
hackers on steroids turning YOUR home computer into a bomb, amirite
pissingeverywhere 2 weeks ago
political science professor talks to CBC about the Black Bloc
/watch?v=JQl4GWGMdzw&hd=1
techcafe 2 weeks ago
this is not the anonymous i am familiar with - just sayin: "head up here folks" :-\
zebra334 2 weeks ago
@zebra334 its not. this video is a fraud.
wtfisthatsmell 2 weeks ago
@wtfisthatsmell Thanks! --> ::Fraud Alert:: <--
zebra334 2 weeks ago
what gave it away for me that they were undercover cops were that the men were removed but never charged after being accused provoke a riot. But again BB is a tactic a Girl Scout could be a BB
all4hewhosaves 2 weeks ago
hmmmm. really?
darrenkis 3 weeks ago
Anonymous break the law daily, giving out addresses of people to be attacked, so i will ignore this stupid video
cramphound 3 weeks ago
@cramphound What about all the ridiculous action of this country's law enforcer's? Thats what I just can't take anymore. Anonymous is doing something about it. Someone has to and the laws don't apply to so many of us. So most cant fight back within the system.
all4hewhosaves 2 weeks ago
Black blocks are not revolutionary, but having said that, the "moral high ground" always belongs to the class who has the power, the media, and academia.
AAmirkhanov 3 weeks ago
This is fake. If this was really anonymous they wouldn't downplay a form of protests. I mean they break the fucking law every day for crying out loud.
Shyguy419 3 weeks ago 2
this is counterinsurgency, not anon
zarday 3 weeks ago 2
LONG LIFE ANONYMOUS
asemwindows 3 weeks ago
lmfao. Anonymous is the most retarded bunch of faggots currently in the modern world.
plzenjoymybigolpenis 3 weeks ago
so when did anonymous start caring about what the mainstream media thinks?
theruntster2010 3 weeks ago
Well, then, Anonymous, give the 99% a list of addresses and GPS points. Face the fact that you are the 1% of the cyber elite, and we 老百姓 have no way to accomplish these tasks. Where does the military-prison-media-pharmaco-whutzits complex lay their comfy little heads? I wonder if they could sleep as easily at night with a drum circle on their front lawn?
mackenzienellis 3 weeks ago
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE
THEInterdome 3 weeks ago
@Afroblackah I mostly agree with you. I AM an anarchist but i don't always agree with the black bloc tactic, bu i don't dismiss it wholeheartedly either. It seems the most principled reason most people criticize the black bloc is for their supposed "unnecessary violence". Is the Occupy movement 100% pacifist? If so it will surely fail.
seigneurvoland666 3 weeks ago
The people generally taking part in BlackBloc activity just want to take action, they have been in this scene for way longer than most of you and in the meanwhile have grown more impatient and angry. If you don't like them smashing windows, then your movement should give them a task other than just "walking", something actually effective. Use their anger, and direct it, rather than letting it go rampant. Propose some ideas.
Sharangir 3 weeks ago 5
@Sharangir I've been an activsit since 1977. Any BB members that can claim lnoger?
milascave2 2 weeks ago
@milascave2 Nice try, there's no such thing as BB members.
Sharangir 2 weeks ago
@Sharangir Black Block members are police thug agents provocateurs.
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Sharangir 2 weeks ago
@dawes777 Whatever, keep living in your own fantasy world.
Sharangir 2 weeks ago
@Sharangir Whatever, keep living in your own fantasy world.
dawes777 2 weeks ago
@dawes777 So, where do you buy that drug, that makes you think everything is perfect and everyone who isn't happy is bought off by CIA?
Sharangir 2 weeks ago
@Sharangir Inside your head, as well as mine and 'most' others.'
dawes777 2 weeks ago
@Sharangir
Got me on a semantic technocality? Fine, then, People who wear the atire that has come to be associated with the black block movement, to the extent that it can now be regarded as the equivlant of a uniform." Real anarchists look and act like individuals. They find people who believe what the believe by talking to people. They don't dress alike to lose thiere individuality, and they don't behave like a mindless mob.
milascave2 2 weeks ago
@milascave2 Who are you to tell who is a real anarchist and who is not? Who are you to tell how people are allowed to dress? Who are you to tell people can't group up? Who are you to tell people can't be angry? AFAIK the only thing that matters for Anarchists is humanity. And if you get your panties all up in a bunch because some people decide to vandalize the so-called property of people who commit crimes against humanity, or resist against police who defend these criminals well,.. who cares.
Sharangir 2 weeks ago 2
@Sharangir Occupy =peaceful. Black bloc =vandals
GET A CLUE!
BLACK BLOC TACTICS ARE NOT WELCOME AT OCCUPY PROTESTS!!!
TheBigBigSean 2 weeks ago
@Sharangir GO find your own party. You are cowards who hide behind peaceful protesters. Blac bloc tactics are for COWARDS. Don't think you are anything else.
TheBigBigSean 2 weeks ago
@TheBigBigSean No, if you want an exclusive party then YOU need to find your own. How about you go look up the original OWS flyer, you dipshit.
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Sharangir 2 weeks ago
@TheBigBigSean First of all black bloc = just dressing in black as a huge bunch for unanimity so the police can't target people to drag them out of the crowd and for anonymity so you don't get FBI knocking at your door or get arrested at your job for being spotted on camera, it has nothing to do with what the bloc is doing. Secondly: Vandalism is destruction and destruction is neither peaceful NOR violent.
And last: The movement will decide whether or not they are welcome, Mr. Dictator.
Sharangir 2 weeks ago
@TheBigBigSean "You are cowards who hide behind peaceful protesters. Black bloc tactics are for COWARDS."
Uhmmmm..... and Anonymous don't hide behind anonymity and Occupussy?.... LoL
setv1 2 weeks ago 2
@setv1 lulz wow.. are you lost kid. i think you just missed the point there. try again.
Black Bloc does suck.. right.
TheReverseCoder 2 weeks ago 2
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Ehhh, and Anonymous denial of service of websites, then they eventually go back restored again. that's making real "Change", right? o_O bleh
setv1 2 weeks ago
@setv1 Do you even know what the point is with DDOS, it's just to shut them down for some time if it's 1 hour or 10 days it does not matter... and it has nothing to do with change... Kid you need to read and study some more, because you are way behind. And one more thing DDOS is not hacking ether.. so i don't see your point, and if you think DDOS is the only thing Anons do, then you are really lost. A lot happens behind the scene that is not going to be posted on youtube, FB or twitter.
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Uhmm.... DDosing a site then have it restored, as a sign of protest that they don't listen to, is lame.
hacking, exposing data?? anyone with half a brain already knows the go v, Establishment is corrupt. Duh.
"A lot happens behind the scene that is not going to be posted on youtube, FB..".
Ehh.. a lot happens behind the scene is controlled
setv1 2 weeks ago
@setv1 of cause it's controlled nothing is out of control, that would be stupid and unproductive. yes anyone knows the Gov is corrupt, but you did not know (unless you are from the Gov) all the shit they do without the papers and info they expose. DDOS is not lame, it’s like the samll annoyances in life it's easy to prevent, yet no one does anything about it. it serves that purpose, to be annoying.that’s it the Gov use resources and time.Don’t put more into it then what it is annoyances.
TheReverseCoder 2 weeks ago
@TheReverseCoder Oh, really? Exposure of corruption, war crimes and wrongdoing didn't exist before Anonymous?
Ever heard of Pentagon Papers, the MyLai massacre, Watergate?
Believe what you want to believe, but i'm not buying it. Temporary denial of service of websites only to have them restored again is useless. Neither are your leaks, if they did, we'd have already millions of people rising up. Did it happen?? NO.
It takes more than being annoying to change things.
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@setv1 "Exposure of corruption, war crimes and wrongdoing didn't exist before Anonymous?" <--did i say that. Don't think so, there been leaks before. lulz
Yes i do know Pentagon Papers from 1971, the MyLai massacre (1968 Vietnam show USA as the terrorists they are), Watergate.. But you have never seen so many leaks as from Anon and Wikileaks.. 100 times more exposed today than ever before. It takes more than being annoying to change things. <-- you are 100% Right. :) more is being done.
TheReverseCoder 1 week ago
Study Gandhi. He succeeded in freeing India, nonviolently. He was an inspiration to Martin Luther King. If you think carefully about applying the tactics of satyagraha, the power of soul and love, you will realize that they make you relatively impervious to infiltrators' (and those who are foolishly co-opted) divide and conquer tactics, for you will be above them, and if your enemies touch you, the light of truth that they are the ones who have done wrong will be shining square upon them.
TarpaperShackSongs 3 weeks ago
@TarpaperShackSongs lol gandhi shield, gandhi was not the sole reason of indias "independence" .. learn, but don't believe everything anyone tells you, even if it's accepted widely.
seigneurvoland666 3 weeks ago
@seigneurvoland666 I am certainly aware that causation is a complex equation, that there were other factors in India, and that there are no perfect heroes. I simply suggest that those who want to make change would benefit from this particular area of study. All may come to their own conclusions. I do think nonviolence, as a moral and as a strategy, is best applied doggedly, that is without recourse to violence in 99.999% of situations. Gandhi left a door a crack open for extreme emergencies.
TarpaperShackSongs 3 weeks ago
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The British left India because it the colony became unprofitable. That's why it worked. French Indochina and Dutch East Indies were unprofitable too but the imperial powers expected profits in the future, while the British did not. Capitalists will always expect to make profits, so non-violent tactics don't work here.
GodOfTheInternets 2 weeks ago
@GodOfTheInternets - non-profitability was probably a factor, or a reasonable interpretation of a large part of the general unpleasantness that was caused to the British. One might say it was the bottom line in a sea of inconvenience and unpleasantness, which included worldwide embarrassment. The British Empire was capitalist, though; India was part of the capital. Profitability can also take many forms, and any of them can be targeted by nonviolent resistance.
TarpaperShackSongs 2 weeks ago
Anonymous will destroy these anarchist punks.
xxjjxxish 3 weeks ago
fake, posted by the government not anonymous. the original ad buster call out poster for occupy has black bloc in it. black bloc has been a part of ows since it's inception
xylondoulas 3 weeks ago 2
"vandalism - beautiful as a rock in a cops face."
violesswar 3 weeks ago
Fuck Anonymous, let the riots begin!
SolingenSword 3 weeks ago
Lao Tze "The Art Of War" ... First step, secure the will of heaven ... that is, establish your moral superiority to the enemy, articulate your moral principles and stick to them.
CofffeeFix 3 weeks ago 2
Fucking clueless. I doubt this is Anonymous, but who knows. Black Blocs are made up of occupy members and others. Sorry, but it's not going to work. Militancy isn't going anywhere.
Chicagraphy 3 weeks ago 3
The most sickening thing about this is that this person is calling for people to hate their comrades within the movement. This is a clear attack on the unity of the movement with an intention to get us to fight among ourselves. This is far more dangerous than if the cops arrested every one of us. If people accept that it is okay to divide ourselves for any reason then we will fail. One good thing I picked up from Edward Abbey is this, NEVER SACRIFICE A FRIEND TO AN IDEOLOGY. Solidarity forever
mineralandrollcello 3 weeks ago 13
@mineralandrollcello Black Blockers are not my freind. They are willing to sacrifice us to thiere ideology. The split must come. LEt it come quickly.
milascave2 2 weeks ago
@mineralandrollcello You have totally misread Anonymous’ announcement; he does not refer to the genuine non-violent peaceful ‘occupy’ protesters, but to the Black Block thugs who are mostly criminal police infiltrators and agents provocateurs, terrorists and vandals. The ordinary protesting citizenry do not fall into that category. Listen to the video again, and watch the actions of the Black Block thugs.
dawes777 2 weeks ago
@dawes777 they arent. let me guess, you have never been apart of a black bloc?
wtfisthatsmell 2 weeks ago
@wtfisthatsmell Perhaps you were watching the video with your eyes shut? Watch again, but with your eyes open, and see the black-masked thugs - Black Block - in their terrorism mode of destruction. They are not the peaceful non-violent activists, but thugs belonging to the so-called law and order brigade, commonly known as police.
dawes777 2 weeks ago
@dawes777 PAHAHAHA. i can assume you have NEVER even seen a black bloc in person, let alone participate. die already, this movement will carry on.
wtfisthatsmell 2 weeks ago 2
@wtfisthatsmell You, therefore, are one of the criminal thug-police, or a friend of them, and don a black mask to disguise yourself while you vandalise and destroy!
dawes777 2 weeks ago
@mineralandrollcello did you and the 12 thumbs up really listen to the video? I think not! The video rightly exposes the enemies of the occupy movement. If you come into the camps or peaceful protest and gown mask and carry out activities of violence then you need to be exposed regardless of what name you call yourself. if you joined me as a friend in a protest then commit violence to cause police to arrest me by association, frankly you're not my friend YOU ARE MY ENEMY and I will expose you!
OriginalMyTurn2Speak 2 weeks ago