Fur farming : Chow Time. Recycling waste from human food production

[MsBeautifulmommy]

A GLAMOROUS FULL LENGTH MINK COAT..R U FUCKIN SERIOUS.. TIE U 2 A TREE AND LET ME BEAT YOU TO DEATH.... HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES....

[paulmarymurphy]

Moronic. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[LCdenhaag]

this is sick.... people are so freaking FUCKED UP to set this video up and make it seems like fur farmers is a good thing! IT'S NOT! IT'S SICK!

[silvercat34]

This is HORRIFIC. People are so sick. It's 2011, cruelty isn't fashionable. No animal should be crammed into a tiny metal cage its whole life and fed slop through the bars only to be killed so some rich asshole can wear them. Yuck...

[Fleefles]

@xshadowpandax1991

We don't "need" pigs or cows either, so what's your point?

[supermario0192837465]

Nice to see truth and not PETA's crap. And those conditions are fine, there is a lot more space behined that cage.

[studywar]

Looks like they didnt even try to hide the horrible conditions the mink are kept in?  The norm in their eyes?

[Fleefles]

@studywar You can't see where the mink live, just the area where they feed. I hope you don't eat any meat at all, unless you hunt it yourself, because I can guarantee you the feeding areas of cows, pigs, chickens, etc. aren't sparkling clean either.

[TehLinding]

@Fleefles

Uhm.. Yes, you see perfectly fine how the minks live and how small the cages are. Unless you're blind or something O.o

[owlandflamingo]

It's nice to see some true footage of what really happens in good fur farms, not just all of the mind-numbing PETA crap.

[natalie20136]

@owlandflamingo

Good fur farms?because they feed them?

there is no such thing as a fucking good fur farms.

[TheMajorBiologist]

At 1:49 they refer to foxes as "carnivores" which they are not. They are omnivorous, eating crickets, caterpillars, grasshoppers, beetles and crayfish.

They also eat fruits, berries, grasses and some small mammals. To feed it a primary diet of much larger mammals causes significant deficiencies in nutrition and can cause physiological problems. Mink, though carnivorous, who would normally eat a variety of smaller animals including invertebrates and a little plant matter. This video is false.

[wolfforce58205]

Man, why don't people eat the fish heads? Best stuff's in there! lol Glad to see that fur farms make the best use of things though....get a nice healthy meal out of it, too. Looks better than the picture of the picture of the mushed up chicken product that gets made into school food or frozen chicken food that people eat. And people getting anal about fur, it's much more ethical than your polyester blends or even cotton clothing (do you even KNOW how many chemicals go into those fields?!).

[TheMajorBiologist]

@wolfforce58205 While talking about chemicals, you are not thinking about chemicals being consumed by the livestock on the grains and grasses they eat, to also be fed or injected with more chemicals. And during the packaging process for humans are further treated.  Then the scraps given to mink and foxes. Their fecal matter now full of chemicals that seeps into the watershed. Once skinned, the hides are further treated which also gets into our waterways. Now that's a lot of chemicals!

[wolfforce58205]

@TheMajorBiologist Yes, that's true that there's chemicals going in there too (that's the buyer's responsibility to know what they're supporting....always best to buy local, of course, where there's usually less of that going on, but you can also buy meats that aren't fed extra chemicals/hormones, and sometimes, usually more as a local source, animals who were raised on organic feed). Packaging occurs for plants just about as much as it does for meats though, and of course there's the sprays...

[TheMajorBiologist]

@wolfforce58205 True, you can buy meats that are not being fed on chemicals, but this video is more than likely not even close to that case. This is an industry film, and a small farmer who participates in organic feeding is not the selling animals to the fur commission.

Chemical treatment does happen to vegetables when going through packaging, but if, like you said, buy local or/and organic you won't be consuming that crap.

[wolfforce58205]

@TheMajorBiologist Haha, buying organic veggies and meats is big up by me...always forget that a lot of stuff doesn't flow that way. But this is just talkin' about feeding foxes and mink (who are selectively bred to make them huge and have lush coats), not so much humans. Be nicer if they got fed more organics or such.

I don't know enough of the chemical treatments food goes through while packaging. Just that they both use packages, energy, and chemicals at one point or another unless organic.

[wolfforce58205]

@TheMajorBiologist already mentioned by me. Polyester even requires oil drilling (as it starts out as petrolium) just to get the product, and especially after our recent spill here in the US there's no way you can convince me that that's not unsafe or good for the environment. Cotton takes up the most dangerous of chemicals (and the largest variety). Dyes alone (usually following a treatment involving chlorine, chromium, and formaldehyde) used for clothes are labeled as hazardous substances.

[TheMajorBiologist]

@wolfforce58205 I agree, using polyester from extracted oil is not a good source for clothing options, on the same hand, two thirds of the oil the U.S. consumes in used purely in transportation costs, anywhere from daily driving to trucking goods to and from across the country. The manufacturing of oil extracted synthetics only accounts for two percent of our oil consumption. But I still agree, it should be avoided, there are many alternatives.

[wolfforce58205]

@TheMajorBiologist And not to mention cotton is usually resistent to taking up the dyes, so more has to be used. I'd have to argue that cotton is the most popular fabric material used in clothing, yet extremely harmful. While commercial tanning does use chemicals and tannins, there's other methods (if you're willing to stick more local) that could use other methods, such as braining, where you literally tan the pelt with a brain. I've heard from a good friend that the tan comes out great, too.

[TheMajorBiologist]

@wolfforce58205 Organic Cottons are grown without chemical pesticides. And natural dyes used color clothing are starting to be used in some industry use.

Back to tanning, this video is fur from the Fur Commission. They are going to use means to best preserve skins, which means the chemical tanning. I read about the brain tanning, but the industry as a whole uses chemical processes. Seeing as they can't even get facts straight in their own video, they could careless of the pollution they cause.

[wolfforce58205]

@TheMajorBiologist Then there's our 'need' to be constantly washing our clothes, breaking them down quicker and using/wasting more chemicals and water. Never heard of someone washing their fur coat or whatever, and furs/leathers typically have a longer lifespan than other materials, so less is needed. Of course, many don't/can't wear fur garments...for one reason alone they'd simply overheat. In many places it's not practical. But for ones that are, NOT for fashion, it's sensible.

[TheMajorBiologist]

@wolfforce58205 The remaining bodies of mink and foxes are either just discarded or ground up to feed other mink, which causes transmissible mink encephalopathy which is also transmissible to cattle and sheep. Not to mention cannibalism causes dementia.

Fur does need to be cleaned as it is in a state of breaking down or decaying and starts to smell. It is something usually taken to a specialty store. It is also a chemical process. Buying natural detergents is easy and inexpensive for reg washing

[wolfforce58205]

@TheMajorBiologist I'd also like to say sorry for the message-spam there. Guess I have too much to say on the issue v_v Wish the character limit wasn't so short!

[sleepyco]

"(...)biodegradable clothing product that is both nature's finest and most beatiful insulator."

Those are live creatures ffs! Breading animals for vanity is bad enough, at least have the decency to respect their lifes.

[MarkYourGrave]

Nothing should have to eat that D:

[Fleefles]

How can you say they are cramped? You don't even see the whole cage, just the area they put the food in.

[trsnh7yu5]

keeping animals in cramped cages for their entire life waiting to die never looked so good.