MacBook SSD VS HDD

[vewpuz]

how do you got the application open when it has boot up. I know it's liked Lion. but I had that function too, but i discard it and now I want it back.

Who can help me to get this right again?

thanks!

[linuxguy2009]

Ok now write a large ISO to both and see which one finishes first.

[alextlbass]

So all of a sudden computers are based on how fast they load? So my 3DS which loads in under 2 seconds is better than a CRAY XK6 Supercomputer?

[vampforever1009]

@alextlbass lol :P you don't get it... Computers are not based on how fast they load. This video is showing the speed of loading files from an SSD and HDD.

[alextlbass]

@vampforever1009 Its a joke dude. I do get it...

[leandrodafontoura]

Some people are so crazy when writing here. SSD is worth it, no matter what. 2 thinks to reflect about:

1)Its not just about boot time, its about lunching applications, opening/transfering files, simply working faster

2)Macs already have an insane HDD boot speed, wich is by the way faster than any windows on a SSD, so apparently the SSD doesnt improve much

[AshLikeSnow01]

@leandrodafontoura

Just letting you know.

My windows laptop w/ SSD boots in 15-20 seconds. (Multiple Trials). + I haven't enabled stuff to increase boot speed.

Yes, Mac OS boots faster. But saying Mac OS on HDD boots way faster than Windows on SSD is just wrong.

[NorCalExplorer]

My G3 iMac boots faster than that.

[NorCalExplorer]

Not that great of speed difference to justify the cost of an SSD at least for the MacBook.

[xXxBToWnxXx]

Is 256GB in the SSD more than enough or should i be considering getting the 512GB SSD....I will be using the laptop for everyday use for years to come

[VcFFXI]

Think people fail to realise that SSD's come in different read/write speeds, for all we know the ssd in that mac is a really slow one. Not all ssd's are alike!

[BubuSnow93]

@VcFFXI it's slow but it costs more than 2$/Gb

Apple is for idiots

[40ashort]

Let's be honest, that wasn't that much of a difference. Unless you are doing heavy gaming or running lots of programs at the same time, I fear you won't be able to truly experience the benefits of the SSD. If you use it for work daily and you're a computer technician, I can see the advantage to SSD, but I'm just a college student. Microsoft word and Firefox aren't really a struggle for my 500GB @ 7200 and my 8GB of ram. Who would use a mac for gaming anyways? That's such a waste.

[acousticriff]

@40ashort this is a bad representation of the blazing speed you get with an SSD. once you get your hands on a comp with an SSD you will not be able to revert back. fact

[40ashort]

@acousticriff I believe and agree with you. Once I have a full-time job, out of college of course, I will get an SSD. I think they are brilliant. But, being in college, money is a factor. Thumbs up for RAMEN!!!

[appleAddict240872]

i feel classy listening to this song...

[313hummer]

i thought that was going to boot alot faster

[Heelissrogue]

looks bloody glitchy & laggy to me!

[aussienerds]

@Heelissrogue Nah, that's just the video itself, look at his arm moving out of the frame at the start.

[wehttamtsew]

@RealmEternal i saw a faster one than that dont worry they are really good personal experience buy one

[WildMaverick1200]

GarageBand Loop :D

[incurableboy]

Woah woah woah, game and mac= oxymoron

[spinydelta1]

I want to get an SSD. but the fact is. I need lots of space. and buying a SSD just for boot I think is pointless. Lets hope they reach 1TB size soon :D

[jimgeo1000]

@spinydelta1 They already have. In fact, the new Mac Pro has a max. of 2 TB SSD! Apple is ahead of everyone!!!!!!!

[Azazelwalk]

@jimgeo1000 Wrong dude. Its 2TB +(PLUS) an 256 SSD

[Gimmt61]

@jimgeo1000 The only 2 tb ssd costs $6000 and is plugged into a PCI-E slot.

[activeplum]

@jimgeo1000 On the contrary, Apple is really disappointing everyone on this: except Air, all Macs have large HDDs instead of small SSDs which is ridiculous! You just't DON'T NEED large diskspace nowadays, it's as stupid as having a lot of fat in your body whereas food is abundant everywhere. Why should I pay for those stupid empty terabytes inside a Mac just to get an SSD?! And the fact that Apple does not make small SSD's default is really a shame.

[CoOlF1r3]

I think a pretty good HDD has been used for this test..

btw not the entire boot time is of interest for such test... since the first 8-10 seconds is the bios.. the actual loading of the OS is when the ring comes in..

[quangluu96]

SSD is bad for gaming unless you have money to spend on them :O they cost alot.

[Reconseal4050]

Thats it??? if it booted in 1SECOND then i will say take all my money cuz I wanted one!!!! BUT IT DIDNT.

MACS ARE DESIGNED TO BE FAST ENOUGH ALREADY. AT 7200RPM HD WILL DO U JUST FINE. UNLESS YOU DO A LOT OF VIDEO.

[loopba]

wow, thats not worth any extra money

[blackw21]

@loopba lol, that's what poor people say.

[Videogamearcade]

is the SSD one quieter ? Less noise less heat ? faster processing ?

thanks for your reply !!

[tilxGH]

@Videogamearcade the ssd has no moving parts, so less power, less noise, less heat, and much faster data transfers. however if 10-20 seconds of your life are not worth the hundreds of dollars spend on an ssd, i dont recommend one. a 512gb ssd costs damn near that same number in $. yeah, it will load large movie files and saved game data much faster, and has no risk of shock damage from falling or anything, but i think a velociraptor drive can compare quite closely in tests.

[magichristo]

@tilxGH Nah it can't :D Besides, 512GB SSDs cost a fortune from Apple,from other brands it's better and cheaper.

[tilxGH]

@magichristo

if you can find a solid state drive with 512gb of memory for less than $900 us dollars, brand new, anywhere on the internet or in a large retail store, please, tell me immediately so i can get one. otherwise, every website will have a range from $1000-3000 for that much ssd memory. my opinion- spending a couple grand so i dont have to worry about 10 seconds of boot time or 4 seconds of data transfer time is definitely not worth it. apple chargess the same as anyone else: $1100.

[magichristo]

@tilxGH It's much more than that :D But I'll look it up

[tilxGH]

@magichristo apple's cost? Its actually exactly what I just stated, bro. why would I lie about something as simple as that?

[magichristo]

@tilxGH No I mean it's more than that, as in, there are many more and better advantages of SSDs. It's not just boot time, and definitely not 4 seconds of data transfer less, more like 20-30 at least. Also, this is for ALL your files, that means everytime you open ANY application it will load FAR FAR faster than with a normal HD. That means you can open a shitload of apps, and I do mean a shitload of heavy apps at the same time, at boot up in like 5 seconds. Games are much faster too

[magichristo]

@Videogamearcade Yes, it's almost no noise, less heat, MUCH MUCH faster processing. Don't get SSD's from Apple though, they cost a fucking mansion.

[jerryx2000]

wtf 10sec quicker?

[BardiaD]

You have to onsider that the SSD loaded all the UI elements and background processes almost instantly while the HDD loaded them one at a time (the dock was the best example of this.)

[mrcnjd]

Hey, can you please tell, what this music is? :-)

[Clarensee]

Only a teeny bit faster. Not worth the huge $ difference.

[ausio309]

could i put like a 160 gb ssd into my powerbook 15inch 1.5 ghz ?

[herefortheheckofit]

Mí Gusa

[iceman9109]

the ssd is not fast enough for me to pay that much for it... 599 on crucial for 256gb i think.... not worth it yet... maybe one day :)

[natogandalf]

@iceman9109 This video is two years old. My MacBook Air 11" reboots in 17 seconds, from pressing "reboot" to the desktop being fully loaded again.

[TheEpisteme]

@natogandalf My Linux machine does that in a bout 20 seconds and I have a cheap Western Digital HDD in it.

[jon780]

@TheEpisteme Imagine if it had an SSD! Really depends on how optimized you've got init honestly, and how many services are starting on bootup. A lot of your boot might not be disk bound.

[TheEpisteme]

@jon780 I would love to have an SSD for my OS and have a large HDD for storage, ideally a few of them in RAID. I run a somewhat slimmed down distro and with a nice SSD I'm sure the majority of the time it takes to boot would be BIOS.

[mattdj313]

That SSD is slow as crap. Something is wrong with that. Seriously. lol

[canesuper1234]

la cosa che non ho capito è il prezzo alto degli ssd, se uno lo vuole, deve spendere 200 e passa di euro x il 128gb e 400 euro x il 250gb..

[xXemolieswithinXx]

i like SSD.. now if a 500GB one didnt cost $1,000 i would LOVE them

[MrAleckazee]

this was in 2008, SSDs have come a long way since then. They're bigger, faster and have a larger life span. SSDs are MUCH faster. Nit just in boot times but opening programs, files, loading games, EVERYTHING! I have a SSD and I will never get a HDD again. Once you use a computer with SSD for a while and then with a HDD, you can really feel the difference. Not to mention HDDs are a hge bottleneck for computers. HDDs are getting bigger but 90% of people don't need 1tb+ storage, thats ridiculous.

[DragonTamer2345]

@professionalrax Er... any decent SSD with TRIM enabled (Under Windows. NTFS is the only filesystem that supports it as far as i know) should write at least twice as fast as a hard drive, and read even faster.

[philiprawks]

Hey guys, im considering making this upgrade, but at the moment a 512gb SSD drive costs about £600, which is quite alot right? do you think the price might drop over the next year or so to about half? thanks =D

[FRURMELLL]

Macbook SSD: Very crappy

Macbook HDD: Even crappier

[nidoperepil]

@appreviewer098 you have a hdd :)

[easywebshow]

what is ssd??? I don't understand! haha :D lol

[Crashbandicout]

@easywebshow SSD iS a PENDRIVE HD

[easywebshow]

@Crashbandicout Ahh ok thanks! :)))))

[Force2BRW]

@easywebshow hdd is hard drive disc (has a spinning disc that things are written onto. think like a dvd with a ton of storage. this is the current standard). ssd is solid state...uh...disc probably? But the difference is there are no moving parts on a ssd. everything is just stored inside (think usb thumb drive with much more storage, and quicker read/write speed). Since it the computer doesn't need to spin the disc to get info, it takes less power, is normally quicker, and harder to break.

[easywebshow]

@Force2BRW Now i understand all! And that's cool...! But not realy easy to make.

[mehmet24a]

Never buy a SSD-drive. This is why: Flash-memory drives have limited lifetimes and will often wear out after 1,000,000 to 2,000,000 P/E cycles (wiki).

[snooglehead]

@mehmet24a LOL that's still more then a HDD

[h4x0y]

@appreviewer098 simple, if you bought a standard model (no matter what display size), without choosing any different hardware parts, it'll always come with HDD standard. SSD is an upgrade which costs hundreds more for the same capacity.

[JohnWelsch]

so is it worth paying 300 dollas more for those 10 seconds?

[putterosk]

@JohnWelsch In situations when you need to do something that deals with life or death yes but other than that no... Imagine what 300 bucks can buy you

[JohnWelsch]

@putterosk a whole new computer! Not high end, but a decent one. With something like HD 4850, Q6600

[kaltsinho]

Hope iMAC's will ship also with SSD's

[hudiduff]

not even worth!

[TheLonelyHappyMeal]

@hudiduff two years ago this is, now they are faster and chaeper

[Chilango45]

same on HP's....(i own one so when it hits a fragment of dust while running on a battery, it will lock the drive to avoid data loss.... )

now, kinda off topic but might contribute to HDD crashes when hit.... do MB or MBP have accelemoterers?

[Chilango45]

yeah...

oh! and it won't crash like normal HDDs due to a part falling out or clicking noises

[LLOYD19851012]

my hard drives died on me. now they stop books falling over.

[Jferrari427]

I have the Macbook Air 1.86 with the SSD- its a huge difference. Its load all programs, boots up and shuts down faster than my 3.06 7200RPM iMac by a significant margin. It really is quite amazing how much of a difference an SSD makes.

[deluxedookie]

@idrinorbarsaku

any storage device is unreliable thats why if you dont have 2 copys of your data, that dat is not important.

[extremesony]

a couple of seconds starting up, launching apps, coping files, no mechanical parts, more security, lees power... well a lot of things..

i want to buy a Intel SSD for my mac...

[L3zer]

it's not only the startup of the laptop. it's every software and game you run on it. It's stupid fast.

[rocaho001]

@L3zer do you think if I shove it down my girlfriend's throat she will shut her mouth faster when I tell her to shut the fuck up?

[L3zer]

@rocaho001 why would you wanna ruin a good SSD?

[flhxxx]

That must be one slow SSD... I have a 2.5 year old macbook pro, core 2 duo processor, ddr 2 RAM.. I put it side by side with a one month old macbook pro and my system boots in 13 seconds while the new machine boots in 32. Not only does mine boot faster but all read operations are faster, all apps load much faster. I can only imagine what a current macbook with an intel x25e ssd would be like.

[JSantana319]

Does your Macbook Pro have 7200RPM? That could be a factor because I doubt yours has 5400RPM which is slower.

[lighangel]

Is SATA II (3gb/s) faster than SSD???

[SwisssBolla]

Yes, SATA II isn't a bottleneck for today's SSDs.

[eyequex012]

the way that the SSD shines is that its a solid state drive meaning no moving parts... which eventually means less problems and less likely to die on you becuase the are lesss parts to malfunction

[ccmtor]

who really cares about boot time, I want to see an overall system performance test. So far not that impressed with SSD.

[roger767]

its 10seconds faster but you pay 200 dollars more for less space. In what does the SSD really shine?

[NeosBack1]

I would say it really shines in opening programs\apps up but I don't have one lol so can't really say

[mrarifw]

Disappointing.

[RealmEternal]

That's not as fast as I'd have hoped for.

[Danny77uk]

It probably makes a bigger difference running Windows as that's seems to be constantly hitting the disk.

[piratapan]

It really makes a difference what SSD you use

[KakarottoCL]

@RealmEternal The real loading part of the boot process took less than 10 seconds. It begins to load files only when you see the wheel rolling. Before that, it checks the nvram and the connected devices, then checks and mounts the file system. Only then it starts using the hard disk.

[MrDylanblue]

@RealmEternal thats what she said

[aryasridhar]

@RealmEternal Booting would remain relatively slow, depending on the number of files and permissions and so many other things that happen during boot up.....However the overall performance would be good, as there is no spindle and no head searching for data anymore......

[mercurysquad]

@RealmEternal The laptop doesn't start booting from the SSD until you see the spinning animation - before that the EFI (firmware) is loading which the SSD cannot speed up.

[nevimCze]

@RealmEternal this is only startup, check this /watch?v=odSSI_9KAkI&feature=r­elated ;)

[ol0l0l0lo]

@RealmEternal just like L3zer said its not only the startup that ssds are good for, and also the first part of the loading screen is the bios, where the hard drive is not even needed so speeds couldnt be faster then. After the ring actually starts to spin, it is loading mac osx and uses the hard drive. The times for loading the os were around 4 seconds for the SSD and around 9 seconds for the HDD, which is actually 2.25 times faster! The only bad thing about SSDs is that they cost allot more.

[nicklassayshi]

What's the RPM on the HDD?

[LatemTube]

im guessing 5400

[thetshirtblog]

A very useful benchmark for those of us who repeatedly reboot their computers as part of their basic usage pattern

[BedfordMarcus]

Solid State Drives are faster and also USB Data Sticks are also solid state. Solid State Disks boot faster because linux boots faster on a USB SSD Flash Drive faster than on a S/ATA hard drive. Anyway, I think I have heard that music in GarageBand at school?

[luerexbob]

It's one of the jingles in iMovie

[vYourCompHelpv]

SDD FTW

[dozbubba1]

its really close enough not to matter so ill stick with the hard disc

[joewillgo]

Well, at least SSD can go up to 256 GB. I think that's plenty of space!

[haltzy]

and if extra is needed you can simply go out and buy a external hard drive

[CsmCathal]

yeh but the SSD 256gb is like $600 on newegg.I have the 80gb Intel SDD X25-M (which i bought for 317 euros) in my MacBook Pro Unibody and a time capsule to store all the files that were on my old hard drive.

[ufee]

Higher than that. Newegg offers one from Super Talent that is 512 GB, although it costs nearly $1600.

[Latinlabel]

Nice comparison video.

[laptoplover2]

what is ssd and what is hdd?

[iAv0]

Solid State Drive and Hard Disc Drive, the ssd is faster and more durable, but smaller and costs much more. The hdd is an actual disc that spins and has more memory.

[rahulgg1991]

sOrRy maN but this video is not for ya

[laptoplover2]

why not this isn't your video

[BlakeCastle]

why would you watch this video having no idea what it was? wouldn't you find out what they were before looking at boot up times?

[irreverentmoose]

¿El macbook a la derecha tiene el SSD?

[brooped]

No, a la izquierda.. ;) The faster one of course :)

[irreverentmoose]

Wow I didn't even notice the text until it was too late X)

[fragrua]

Interessante, comunque se l'autore del filmato avesse selezionato il Disco di avvio avrebbe risparmiato almeno quei 5 secondi iniziali.

Evidentemente dopo la clonazione del disco se n'è dimenticato.