I think if Federer took a year off and just practiced serve and volley only and dedicated himself to ONLY serve and volley, he would dominate Nadal again.
I don't think anyone has made S&V look so damn easy. Its such a shame that the courts are slower than treacle nowadays, cos I don't think we'll ever see this kind of game again :(
WOW! So many haters posting on this thing! Jealous much of seeing a GODLY SERVE and put away volley? This is a great vid, if your dissing it because your a baseline fanboy who doesn't like all court tennis, than just don't watch. S/v is a great game. Tennis is a game of trends - don't be surprised to see a couple S/v'ers again.
Agassi could return Sampras' serve but he made poorer returns compared to today's top players. People say agassi is good returner because he simply has good percentage of return, but those returns rarely hurt sampras. The first return affects the balance to make successful passing shots. Federer and nadal has better returns than this, Sampras will never get an easy first volley.
For the sake of the game, I am really pleased that serve and volley has died out. From what I have seen of tennis 15 or 20 years ago, the games are not fluid or interesting, it's just huge serves, a return and a quick volley to win the point. Rinse and repeat.
I love nothing more than watchin Nadal and Federer (the recent FO final was a perfect example) duel it out from behind the baseline. Their shots are just unbelievable and so great to watch Nadal's spin and Federers's pin point accuracy.
@TennisAnnalyst i just admire the pure skill of pete, guga and andre. W/the exception of the top 3 in tennis today, you rarely see matches played w/ such intensity anymore.
@TennisAnnalyst you gotta take into context the equipment they were using and the way they played. There weren't 60 shot baseline rallies and the games were actually really exhilarating to watch. To serve and volley like pete with that raquet he was using? tat...takes skill.
these guys are the greats of tennis because the top 10 in their days were all federer's and nadal's in their prime so it was MUCH MUCH harder to win anything.
Now a days the top 10 are butt except for a few good players.
we will never see another serve and volley like this again in our life time. This is amazing, I never see players even hit these kinds of shots anymore. And when they do it's considered amazing, those kinds of shots are just routine for Sampras.
Speed up the grass courts. We want serve and volley back in London. Clay, Grass and Hard should be all different. Not the same high bouncing gayness which sees to be the its going. Baseline is good but not when every player has to do it because of the slow courts.
Pete was a great playa, probably the best ever for me. Eventhough i am nadal's fan, i appreciates what pete done for the game. Yes federer's form from 2004-07 dominating compare to sampras from 94-98. But people need to realize, from 2002-07 that's the weakest era we know in tennis. The competition was not the same like it was in pete's day. Federer is good, but i doubt he would of won 10 slams back then.
the best serve and volley ever, unbelievable precision. His matches were like watching a Bruce Willis movie, the action never stops! Miss you so much in the courts Pete!
its true plus this guy is tall, he can cover the court it takes him seconds to come to the net after his serve, plus hes known for his accurate first serves, pistol pete is his nick name, i mean he was made for tennis, and he does magic volleys u cant do anything to return this, i look up to his play style now its all about baseline power play, i still love serve and volleys :)
so ATP has decided to make it more interesting , appealing , challenging n changed the surfaces with materials which will slow the speed, but the reason given is 'durability'......can any1 recollect Grass court specialist Tim has commented on the wimbledon grass changes? ..... change obviously helped Nadal n inturn made Tennis(Nadal Vs Fed rivalry) show up on Times cover after some years!
Yes, what can they do, here is 1 guy who is making tennis look a kid's game with his GS championships....which ofcourse for sometime made tennis look boring.....then there came a player who stood up or sorry ran-out his last muscle to give his opponent one more shot to play which made the champ think over; atleast it happened in one GS at Paris to start with n there you go ppl will obviously look to make more interesting....continued.
i dont think serve and volley is tireing anymore, i do it all the time, its my main aproach generally, but i suppose a good fitness is needed to keep it up, but i dont find it that difficult, whereas playing from the baseline is much harder if you cant hit winners quickly, which from that distance is hard in itself from my experiance
No serve and volleyers strain their body much more than baseliners. Go to the tennis court and do a few shuttle run drill back and forth - i.e. forehand, backhand, appraoch shot, low forehand and back hand volley, high fore+back volley and couple overheads. If you can do this 8 times in a row, you are really good. Compare that to hitting strokes from the baseline about 50 times. Try it and see which one is harder. You will see why serve and volley is so much harder.
SVolleyGame - thanks for your comments, I agree with you what you wrote.
89Pleasek - do you play tennis? what is your level? I do not want to pass judgment on your comments but I think if you did not experience a 120mph+ first serve, or spin second serve which can lob you, it is hard to appreciate the value of a good serve. Nadal is a great guy but he is nowhere close the returning talent of Agassi which has a very flat a compact strokes ... and Sampras can beat Agassi at his best.
@agrodner Well... check out the Nadal serve now... Anyway, I don't think s&v strains the body as much in the long run because you're aiming for shorter points. It's like sprinting vs jogging. Yes, sprinting will strain the body more in the same amount of time, but you have to jog for a longer time to finish the run. :/ I guess it balances out to screw your body over either way.
I can understand your point with that example, but in an actual match serve and volleying finishes a point faster as opposed to baseliners who tend to outlast the opponent. This is just my opinion, don't hate me for being wrong :)
@SVolleyGame yeh i think its very hard on your body stamina wise, you have to be Soo alert and fast and your reflexes have to be best. I find it harder
@SVolleyGame Completely agree. A front court game looks so easy, except when you actually do it. Not only is it extremely hard work, physically, you have to be on the top of your senses, feel and touch are so important, you have to be very brave, the margins are so small and one mistake could be your end i.e. end of that point :) Front court tennis requires amazing skill. Anybody, anybody can stay on the base line and hit balls all day long and wait for the opponent to blink.
89Pleasek, I cannot believe you actually said that. Do you even play tennis? If what serve and volleyers do is only thing that they can do, they could never GS not to mention a tournament. You do have to return serve and control rallies and approach shots to come to the net.
Nadal? I love Nadal, but only reason he does well these days is because ATP slowed down the surface and made the ball incredibly slower than before.
This style is so primitive, a serve-and-volley player with only 2 shots in particular (serve and volley of course) could win a bunch of Grand Slam titles up to the late 90's. Now you need to have ALL SHOTS in the book in order to achieve something.
Nadal would teach Sampras a lesson not to come to the net after each serve. He'd rape Sampras with his speed and crazy passing shots from nowhere, not to mention Federer in his prime...
I like Rafa, but he may not be a threat in future Grand Slams other than the French. The guys on the tour are figuring out how to beat him. And he has injury issues. And Sampras would have easily beaten Nadal on the Wimby and US Open surfaces in which Pete competed.
And you are wrong about serve and volley. Styles of play come and go. I am sure there is a kid who realizes he can break down the current power baseliners with a dominating S&V game like Pete or Mac.
He would. Today's grass speed is way slower than it was in the 90's. Such a player like Federer (mono or not) would never lose to a guy like Nadal if they played on super fast grass courts taken from the 80's or 90's. Nadal in his prime would teach Sampras a lesson nowadays but Nadal wouldn't win anything in the fast 90's.
Btw Nadal has (had) an excellent return of serve. His only real weakness is his serve, maybe volleys as well but another than that he's a beast.
Yes courts are slower, but figure this. Sampras has the 2 longest consecutive games held streak @ SW19 with 118 and 97. Third is Nadal at 80, so how much do you think the slower grass will affect him. Also Pete won his last US Open on a court that slower than the one they've used 2003-present (though slower than 1978-00), and he held 87 straight times in 2001.
Nadal's serve is actually more effective than his return.
whats your point? sampras held serve million times in a row cause he was barely breakable (especially on super fast surfaces), Nadal always plays something extra on his service points - the fact that he held 80 times in a row (where did you get that info from anyway) just tells me that todays speed is miserable cause a guy like Nadal would never hold serve so many times had he played in the 80's or 90's.
Well if Nadal holds easil on SLOWER surfaces, how well do you think Sampras woud?? Now with the slower courts would that not help his return??
Do you even know wy Nadal held 80 straight times at SW19?? What makes his serve effective?
And this belief of yours that Nadal would "rape" Sampras on today's slower courts, shows your feeding into the misconception about Pete and slower courts.
What did he say after winning Cincinnati in 1999? See Masters 96/97.
The fact that Nadal holds so many times doesn't mean he's a great server. If you're so keen on backing your arguements with info tell me what's Nadals record number of aces in a match. Im sure that under 20.
Anyway the US Open hardcourts (and those in cincinnati for instance) are one of the fastest in the world nowadays. They changed their structure for the 2005 edition but the speed remained pretty much the same, id even say that the 2004 (and previous ones) was slightly faster than 2005
All you're doing is showing your ignorance. First when did I say Nadal's a GREAT server? I said his serve is more effective than his return. Aces is not the only parameter of having a good serve. You need 2 learn the game more. Nadal serves well, smart and clutch to start.
The USTA said they slowed the courts down in 2001 and then sped them up in '03 (but slower than 78-00). When a big server Roddick, and a claycourter JCF made the final in 03 they called it a happy medium.
@thalivest lol nadal's serve is shit. His main tactics is to be defensive in his service games and aggressive at return games. He only hold serve because the courts are slow which enables long rallies. If there is nothing to rally for him basically he is waiting to be broken, but too bad the grass bounce is comparable to roland garros, it was waist level with top spin, shoe level with slice.
@Baddieko So shit that he won the US Open being broken but 5 times!! 4 of 7 matches was not broken, an in oly on match (the F) was he broken more than once. Sampras has the 2 longest conec. games streak held at Wim, who's #3?? Rafa again!!
Yes the slower courts help Nadal, but if you think his serve is "shit" all I can do is laugh. It's not Sampras but certainly not "shit".
Well it would be quite fictional to say but having seen such quick movements, to me Sampras was like a "heat-seeking missile" sticking with his prey (ball).
Where the ball goes he goes, quite remarkable eye contact.
Not taking anything away from Federer, he's fantastic...But Sampras's 14 grand slams have more weight to them playing serve volley...He made it look sooooo much easier than it is.
@howzaou812 actually Federer has some more "weight" as well because he was playing in the transitory time and he has to adapt to the change in the game style
@howzaou812 I agree with you to an extent. Serve and volley is hard to do well. But it was Sampras' choice to play this way, so you can't just say he deserves more acclaim because he did it.
that serve and volley style can be very tiring.. maybe that's why sampras retired sooner than agassi who I like more, since he always played in the back line and always hitting to the side lines, not with roger federer's precisition though
well what I mean is that running too much can deteriorate your body and serve and volley is all about running to the net every time. It's like nadal, he force his body to run too much and he's more likely to get injured than federer for example, nadal is an excellent player though, but I wonder at what age is he gonna retire, still it's not a fact, because he has a good form, but passed some time we'll see his evolution or his end
Well, if you think about it, the serve and volley is meant to win the point as quick as possible. The short point would put less stress on the body. I could be wrong though, Sampras said he was exhausted when he retired
sampras had a common blood disorder found in most people of greek origins that made him more tired than normal people, also his serve carried him he didnt do as much volleying as say rafter or mcenroe he was a huge server first than a volleyer and i really like sampras not trying to discredit him. i personally say hes better than federer becuase serve and volleying is way more badass than doing little angle shots from the baseline
Agree about Pete's medical condition. He certainly would not have lost that US Open final to Hewitt had he not had that condition. Even his condition may have had an effect on the US Open losses to Edberg and Safin.
I did not say Pete would win the French because of his condition. The French courts are much faster in recent years compared to when Pete was playing. All I am saying is that Pete lost some US Open Finals that may have effected him because of his condition - especially the loss to Hewitt. Just watching Pete play in this video makes one realize how important serve and volley is to the future of the men's tour.
the speed of clay courts didnt change at ever since, dont look for excuses for pete for losing to random players at the french and never really doing particularly well on the surface.
You ever wondered why did sampras reach the semis of the french in 1996? It was damn hot that summer and the balls where faster than usual. Sampras wouldnt win the french even if he was the only Top 20 player in the tournament.
How about Sampras losing to Hewitt cause he was 30 years old and out of his prime?
just tried reading his serve its pretty much impossible thats why fed n petes serves are better than roddick even though he hits it harder, think they place the ball slightly better too
contemplation09 you're comment is too funny and nice, really...english language/slang is not my native tongue, and even the form it was formuled made me laugh for sooo long, thanks!
Top Gun, "Pistol Pete" is the main man on the block, don't mess with this Muva Fucka, he gone serve and volley on you all, chip and charge your lame asses - he's the Dude. RESPECT
whoa, i just marvel at the serving and his bh volleys!! as a serve volleyer, this is like watching a how-to guide! you win some/lose some but sv is key about persistence too! maybe will see another GS sv-er again someday'
Definately his serve is first. I believe if he's been doing it against the best returner ever its gotta be the serve. Otherwise Agassi will just rip an OK serve past him or anyone else.
Edberg in my opinion is the best serve and Vollyer but he wouldn't be as succsseful if he encountered a returner like a Courier or Aggasi during their prime Era.
Edberg had losing records against Agassi and Courier. Stefan's high kick serve gave lots of players fits, but it did not bother Courier or Agassi. Of course, Stefan was slight past his prime when Agassi and Courier were beating him.
A consistent 1st & 2nd serve with bite. His serve gains more pace when it hits the ground, coupled with a solid volley augmented with great hands. So, effortless effortlessness makes his volley penertrating and decisive. Note that he uses a very heavy racket, which does the work. He lets the 60 pound tension strings present a "wall". Sampras is an object lesson in keeping your head still, eyes on the ball, balance, great knee bend coupled with decisiveness - contributed to his superb volley.
As an after thought: Sampras keeps his volley simple. He gets the racket face into the right place and the rest takes care of itself. This is what I mean by effortless effortlessness.
Aggressive intent and his decisiveness more than anything (and truck loads of natural talent and feel). And simplicity and economy (of both his physical movement and his thinking)
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Super fast courts. Advantage of Samprases service game makes a huge difference... Had it not been for his servce Sampras would not have ruled like he did
You just pretty much said the equivalence of saying "without his groundstrokes, Agassi would've sucked" or "without his serve, Roddick sucks." The serve was Sampras' almighty weapon, and of course it played a big part in him being successful.
Sampras had a lethal runnin' forehand and pete's backhand was pretty damn good when Pete was in his prime and Sampras played the key points better than anybody in history.
Actually this was on s low court. The Deco Turf II was at it's original speed 1978-2000. Then they slowed it down in 2001-02. The sped it up from that but still slower than 1978-2000, and when a big server (Roddick) and claycourter (Ferrero) made the finals in 2003 they though they reached a happy medium.
But it is slower now than it orinally was when the US Open moved to Flushing 1978-2000.
you don't have any real proof of anything. your just speculating. maybe he saw dr.fuentes cuz he found a lump on his breast and was checking for breast cancer.
That's as fast as the first serve that he hit in exhibition match against Federer last year, and it didn't even look like he was trying. I think he has as much power as Roddick, but he knows that speed alone doesn't make your serve the best ever.
If Nadal is playing 95 Sampras in Wimbledon, is likely that Nadal will lose in straight sets since Sampras serve and volley (especially 2nd serves) and will take off Nadal's game away (his heavy topspin grondstrokes)
Serve and volley's last hurrah, there was a massive change after Pete when the baseliners took over. It all seemed to happen at once - just compare the SF'ists at Wimbledon in 2001 and 2002 for example.
Sorry for the quality but obviously on my PC it looks better. I am glad you like it. I sometimes use that video to pump myself up before the matches :-). Cheers
I would like to think so - that is probably the only thing I can do half-decently ;-). I posted a clip with two relatively clean games I played in the tournament couple years back. Enjoy and thanks for your interest.
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I actually prefere a more defensive kind of game (as a viewer)..
I rather watch Rafa's match than Roger's.. but that's just me..
VickiGru 1 month ago
look at that beautiful split step at 1:30
alankace 2 months ago
I think if Federer took a year off and just practiced serve and volley only and dedicated himself to ONLY serve and volley, he would dominate Nadal again.
gornhorror 2 months ago
I don't think anyone has made S&V look so damn easy. Its such a shame that the courts are slower than treacle nowadays, cos I don't think we'll ever see this kind of game again :(
Peaches1822 2 months ago
@Peaches1822 *I mean S&V look so damn easy as sampras makes it look
Peaches1822 2 months ago
is no coincidence that the best rivalry ever was a server vs a returner...
DeepSnowMan 4 months ago
he's a beast, the best of all time in my opinion
petty0864 5 months ago
@petty0864 I totally agree. When he was on, his best was THE best. Federer included.
gornhorror 2 months ago
Dead gad, that's amazing. I forgot how impressive Sampras was.
dharmaboy75 5 months ago
Absolutely beautiful... tennis at its best imo
alin1975 5 months ago
you so great! i love this video! thanks
naharattttt 6 months ago
WOW! So many haters posting on this thing! Jealous much of seeing a GODLY SERVE and put away volley? This is a great vid, if your dissing it because your a baseline fanboy who doesn't like all court tennis, than just don't watch. S/v is a great game. Tennis is a game of trends - don't be surprised to see a couple S/v'ers again.
exitingforward 6 months ago
In the few points that Agassi scored in this video, the crowd goes nuts.... while in all of Sampras' points, there's just an awwwww...
Wonder how he felt about being the better player all those years, but not the crowd fave.
ProduceMan117 6 months ago
0:56 sick volley!
aonutube 6 months ago
best player ever federer not good enough to lase his shoes.
britpatRIOT100 7 months ago
sampras was still the best serve and volley player in the world
m3v0t 7 months ago
Agassi also had the best return. Snap.
Denoheatwave 7 months ago
Oh snap, did he play his whole serves like that?
Kalipathekid 7 months ago
Agassi could return Sampras' serve but he made poorer returns compared to today's top players. People say agassi is good returner because he simply has good percentage of return, but those returns rarely hurt sampras. The first return affects the balance to make successful passing shots. Federer and nadal has better returns than this, Sampras will never get an easy first volley.
youziness 7 months ago
For the sake of the game, I am really pleased that serve and volley has died out. From what I have seen of tennis 15 or 20 years ago, the games are not fluid or interesting, it's just huge serves, a return and a quick volley to win the point. Rinse and repeat.
I love nothing more than watchin Nadal and Federer (the recent FO final was a perfect example) duel it out from behind the baseline. Their shots are just unbelievable and so great to watch Nadal's spin and Federers's pin point accuracy.
spasman 7 months ago
playing sampras would of been a bitch back then.
frilloz4 7 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst i just admire the pure skill of pete, guga and andre. W/the exception of the top 3 in tennis today, you rarely see matches played w/ such intensity anymore.
muslimgiga 8 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst you gotta take into context the equipment they were using and the way they played. There weren't 60 shot baseline rallies and the games were actually really exhilarating to watch. To serve and volley like pete with that raquet he was using? tat...takes skill.
muslimgiga 8 months ago
these guys are the greats of tennis because the top 10 in their days were all federer's and nadal's in their prime so it was MUCH MUCH harder to win anything.
Now a days the top 10 are butt except for a few good players.
muslimgiga 8 months ago
Watching videos of Pete just reminds me of how the serve has almost become a forgotten shot in tennis. Amazing.
supermaccarenzo 9 months ago
Sampras's serve and volley was a sight to behold. He made it look so effortless.
sdnm86 11 months ago
its as if sampras never got tired or ran out of stamina..... look at the number of serve & volleys he put out there !
bugabutu 1 year ago
we will never see another serve and volley like this again in our life time. This is amazing, I never see players even hit these kinds of shots anymore. And when they do it's considered amazing, those kinds of shots are just routine for Sampras.
Scarecrowman27 1 year ago 7
Talk about PRESSURE
Scarecrowman27 1 year ago
Speed up the grass courts. We want serve and volley back in London. Clay, Grass and Hard should be all different. Not the same high bouncing gayness which sees to be the its going. Baseline is good but not when every player has to do it because of the slow courts.
nishjaxx 1 year ago 3
His 14 grand slams weight more than any number of GS of any other player.
cammpinno 1 year ago
In this match Sampras outserved, outrallied, outvolleyed, outplayed Agassi. Like in many of those where he was an "underdog". :-)))
What a fun to watch!!!
cammpinno 1 year ago
I HATE how they make serving look so natural and easy
coolragazzo94 1 year ago
This is the most beautiful tennis I ever seen.
diablomid 1 year ago
his volleying is flawless
sullmister 1 year ago
i like how this video isnt just sampras winning every point.. it shows agassi making good shots as well
yeahuuummmno 1 year ago
Sampras the serve and volley machine, it's an art to watch him bulldoze through players, serve and vollying is not as easy as it looks!
007toft007 1 year ago
No serve and volley as much as Sampras used to do these days
kinny26 1 year ago
Pete was a great playa, probably the best ever for me. Eventhough i am nadal's fan, i appreciates what pete done for the game. Yes federer's form from 2004-07 dominating compare to sampras from 94-98. But people need to realize, from 2002-07 that's the weakest era we know in tennis. The competition was not the same like it was in pete's day. Federer is good, but i doubt he would of won 10 slams back then.
Thutmosis7 1 year ago
its good but its funny that like fourth of the time he was scored on lol oh well hes still the best
Tohkeeoh7 1 year ago
4:45 :)
WWChrisCornellDo 1 year ago
the best serve and volley ever, unbelievable precision. His matches were like watching a Bruce Willis movie, the action never stops! Miss you so much in the courts Pete!
Bruno8081 1 year ago
serve and volley rules u dont c them now at all. :(
kaidosempai 1 year ago 11
Ur right kaidosempai, majority of Pro player now a days use to stay on the base line.
mikaelosworld 1 year ago
its true plus this guy is tall, he can cover the court it takes him seconds to come to the net after his serve, plus hes known for his accurate first serves, pistol pete is his nick name, i mean he was made for tennis, and he does magic volleys u cant do anything to return this, i look up to his play style now its all about baseline power play, i still love serve and volleys :)
kaidosempai 1 year ago
@kaidosempai
Michael Llodra :D
xXxWontonxXx 1 year ago
@kaidosempai dent, federer do them more than other players, but i agree with you. Sampras was amazing
bamibalboy 1 month ago
Pete was clearly better than Andre on fast hard. But you would have to give a slight nod to Andre on slow hard.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
WOW
This is the kind of tennis I like
moussy82 1 year ago
They both have excellent rythym esp Pete when he serve's and vollys .
piccalocb 1 year ago
this must have been quite annoying for Andre... no wait, he was prob high
dfp2101 1 year ago
this is so beautiful to watch...love serve and volley tennis
JosephBayot 2 years ago
yes Nadal n Fed r champs in their own way.
But slight edge to my champ Pete, who has tackled the major obstacle to his S/V tech i.e tough return, by the best returner of the game, my fav Andre.
S/V is tougher in my opinion to baseline play n herez one who mastered it.
Thanks Andre, Pete for your tennis spirit.
chris4uluvu 2 years ago
so ATP has decided to make it more interesting , appealing , challenging n changed the surfaces with materials which will slow the speed, but the reason given is 'durability'......can any1 recollect Grass court specialist Tim has commented on the wimbledon grass changes? ..... change obviously helped Nadal n inturn made Tennis(Nadal Vs Fed rivalry) show up on Times cover after some years!
chris4uluvu 2 years ago
ATP has replaced surfaces with less speed.
Yes, what can they do, here is 1 guy who is making tennis look a kid's game with his GS championships....which ofcourse for sometime made tennis look boring.....then there came a player who stood up or sorry ran-out his last muscle to give his opponent one more shot to play which made the champ think over; atleast it happened in one GS at Paris to start with n there you go ppl will obviously look to make more interesting....continued.
chris4uluvu 2 years ago
i dont think serve and volley is tireing anymore, i do it all the time, its my main aproach generally, but i suppose a good fitness is needed to keep it up, but i dont find it that difficult, whereas playing from the baseline is much harder if you cant hit winners quickly, which from that distance is hard in itself from my experiance
bloodiestmuffin 2 years ago
DarkDisaster45
No serve and volleyers strain their body much more than baseliners. Go to the tennis court and do a few shuttle run drill back and forth - i.e. forehand, backhand, appraoch shot, low forehand and back hand volley, high fore+back volley and couple overheads. If you can do this 8 times in a row, you are really good. Compare that to hitting strokes from the baseline about 50 times. Try it and see which one is harder. You will see why serve and volley is so much harder.
SVolleyGame 2 years ago 5
SVolleyGame - thanks for your comments, I agree with you what you wrote.
89Pleasek - do you play tennis? what is your level? I do not want to pass judgment on your comments but I think if you did not experience a 120mph+ first serve, or spin second serve which can lob you, it is hard to appreciate the value of a good serve. Nadal is a great guy but he is nowhere close the returning talent of Agassi which has a very flat a compact strokes ... and Sampras can beat Agassi at his best.
agrodner 2 years ago 4
@agrodner Well... check out the Nadal serve now... Anyway, I don't think s&v strains the body as much in the long run because you're aiming for shorter points. It's like sprinting vs jogging. Yes, sprinting will strain the body more in the same amount of time, but you have to jog for a longer time to finish the run. :/ I guess it balances out to screw your body over either way.
asdfuogh 1 year ago
I believe you, coz im a serve and volley player also. but not always. hehe... but its really tiring.
supertrex2 2 years ago
I can understand your point with that example, but in an actual match serve and volleying finishes a point faster as opposed to baseliners who tend to outlast the opponent. This is just my opinion, don't hate me for being wrong :)
DarkDisaster45 1 year ago
@SVolleyGame yeh i think its very hard on your body stamina wise, you have to be Soo alert and fast and your reflexes have to be best. I find it harder
dorker1992 1 year ago
@SVolleyGame Completely agree. A front court game looks so easy, except when you actually do it. Not only is it extremely hard work, physically, you have to be on the top of your senses, feel and touch are so important, you have to be very brave, the margins are so small and one mistake could be your end i.e. end of that point :) Front court tennis requires amazing skill. Anybody, anybody can stay on the base line and hit balls all day long and wait for the opponent to blink.
qzpmwxonqzpm 4 months ago
89Pleasek, I cannot believe you actually said that. Do you even play tennis? If what serve and volleyers do is only thing that they can do, they could never GS not to mention a tournament. You do have to return serve and control rallies and approach shots to come to the net.
Nadal? I love Nadal, but only reason he does well these days is because ATP slowed down the surface and made the ball incredibly slower than before.
SVolleyGame 2 years ago
This style is so primitive, a serve-and-volley player with only 2 shots in particular (serve and volley of course) could win a bunch of Grand Slam titles up to the late 90's. Now you need to have ALL SHOTS in the book in order to achieve something.
Nadal would teach Sampras a lesson not to come to the net after each serve. He'd rape Sampras with his speed and crazy passing shots from nowhere, not to mention Federer in his prime...
89Pleasek 2 years ago
I like Rafa, but he may not be a threat in future Grand Slams other than the French. The guys on the tour are figuring out how to beat him. And he has injury issues. And Sampras would have easily beaten Nadal on the Wimby and US Open surfaces in which Pete competed.
And you are wrong about serve and volley. Styles of play come and go. I am sure there is a kid who realizes he can break down the current power baseliners with a dominating S&V game like Pete or Mac.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
@89Pleasek
Get a clue, Nadal would teach Sampras a lesson. That tells me your tennis knowledge is very limited.
The biggest strength Sampras had... his serve. Nadal's biggest weakness... his return. I gave you a starting point, so you can do the math.
thalivest 1 year ago
He would. Today's grass speed is way slower than it was in the 90's. Such a player like Federer (mono or not) would never lose to a guy like Nadal if they played on super fast grass courts taken from the 80's or 90's. Nadal in his prime would teach Sampras a lesson nowadays but Nadal wouldn't win anything in the fast 90's.
Btw Nadal has (had) an excellent return of serve. His only real weakness is his serve, maybe volleys as well but another than that he's a beast.
89Pleasek 1 year ago
@89Pleasek
Yes courts are slower, but figure this. Sampras has the 2 longest consecutive games held streak @ SW19 with 118 and 97. Third is Nadal at 80, so how much do you think the slower grass will affect him. Also Pete won his last US Open on a court that slower than the one they've used 2003-present (though slower than 1978-00), and he held 87 straight times in 2001.
Nadal's serve is actually more effective than his return.
thalivest 1 year ago
whats your point? sampras held serve million times in a row cause he was barely breakable (especially on super fast surfaces), Nadal always plays something extra on his service points - the fact that he held 80 times in a row (where did you get that info from anyway) just tells me that todays speed is miserable cause a guy like Nadal would never hold serve so many times had he played in the 80's or 90's.
89Pleasek 1 year ago
Well if Nadal holds easil on SLOWER surfaces, how well do you think Sampras woud?? Now with the slower courts would that not help his return??
Do you even know wy Nadal held 80 straight times at SW19?? What makes his serve effective?
And this belief of yours that Nadal would "rape" Sampras on today's slower courts, shows your feeding into the misconception about Pete and slower courts.
What did he say after winning Cincinnati in 1999? See Masters 96/97.
thalivest 1 year ago
The fact that Nadal holds so many times doesn't mean he's a great server. If you're so keen on backing your arguements with info tell me what's Nadals record number of aces in a match. Im sure that under 20.
Anyway the US Open hardcourts (and those in cincinnati for instance) are one of the fastest in the world nowadays. They changed their structure for the 2005 edition but the speed remained pretty much the same, id even say that the 2004 (and previous ones) was slightly faster than 2005
89Pleasek 1 year ago
All you're doing is showing your ignorance. First when did I say Nadal's a GREAT server? I said his serve is more effective than his return. Aces is not the only parameter of having a good serve. You need 2 learn the game more. Nadal serves well, smart and clutch to start.
The USTA said they slowed the courts down in 2001 and then sped them up in '03 (but slower than 78-00). When a big server Roddick, and a claycourter JCF made the final in 03 they called it a happy medium.
thalivest 1 year ago
@thalivest lol nadal's serve is shit. His main tactics is to be defensive in his service games and aggressive at return games. He only hold serve because the courts are slow which enables long rallies. If there is nothing to rally for him basically he is waiting to be broken, but too bad the grass bounce is comparable to roland garros, it was waist level with top spin, shoe level with slice.
Baddieko 1 year ago
@Baddieko So shit that he won the US Open being broken but 5 times!! 4 of 7 matches was not broken, an in oly on match (the F) was he broken more than once. Sampras has the 2 longest conec. games streak held at Wim, who's #3?? Rafa again!!
Yes the slower courts help Nadal, but if you think his serve is "shit" all I can do is laugh. It's not Sampras but certainly not "shit".
thalivest 1 year ago
very nice video!
thnx
great tennis
malovepumato 2 years ago
ah i remember watching thes growing up. great guys.
RafaeINadal 2 years ago
Well it would be quite fictional to say but having seen such quick movements, to me Sampras was like a "heat-seeking missile" sticking with his prey (ball).
Where the ball goes he goes, quite remarkable eye contact.
ahsansarsenal 2 years ago
Not taking anything away from Federer, he's fantastic...But Sampras's 14 grand slams have more weight to them playing serve volley...He made it look sooooo much easier than it is.
howzaou812 2 years ago 15
@howzaou812 Federer makes everything look easier than it is.
Some of the things he does are just amazing. I was looking at some of the volleys Pete was making though, just ridiculous...
LaPerssonandro 10 months ago
@howzaou812 actually Federer has some more "weight" as well because he was playing in the transitory time and he has to adapt to the change in the game style
ductrung3993 10 months ago
@howzaou812 Hmmm... Kanye West much?
"Yo, Fed. I'm really happy for you getting 16 grand slams and imma let you finish but Sampras is the Greatest Of All Time!"
Edu2503 6 months ago
@howzaou812 I agree with you to an extent. Serve and volley is hard to do well. But it was Sampras' choice to play this way, so you can't just say he deserves more acclaim because he did it.
lollerz16 4 months ago
that serve and volley style can be very tiring.. maybe that's why sampras retired sooner than agassi who I like more, since he always played in the back line and always hitting to the side lines, not with roger federer's precisition though
zeitsick 2 years ago
i agree playing the same thing and win all the time. it will get really boring
naikahnomtom 2 years ago
well what I mean is that running too much can deteriorate your body and serve and volley is all about running to the net every time. It's like nadal, he force his body to run too much and he's more likely to get injured than federer for example, nadal is an excellent player though, but I wonder at what age is he gonna retire, still it's not a fact, because he has a good form, but passed some time we'll see his evolution or his end
zeitsick 2 years ago
Well, if you think about it, the serve and volley is meant to win the point as quick as possible. The short point would put less stress on the body. I could be wrong though, Sampras said he was exhausted when he retired
DarkDisaster45 2 years ago
sampras had a common blood disorder found in most people of greek origins that made him more tired than normal people, also his serve carried him he didnt do as much volleying as say rafter or mcenroe he was a huge server first than a volleyer and i really like sampras not trying to discredit him. i personally say hes better than federer becuase serve and volleying is way more badass than doing little angle shots from the baseline
killerkitten1000 2 years ago
Agree about Pete's medical condition. He certainly would not have lost that US Open final to Hewitt had he not had that condition. Even his condition may have had an effect on the US Open losses to Edberg and Safin.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
yes sure, hed win the french open 10 times in a row without the disease.
89Pleasek 1 year ago
I did not say Pete would win the French because of his condition. The French courts are much faster in recent years compared to when Pete was playing. All I am saying is that Pete lost some US Open Finals that may have effected him because of his condition - especially the loss to Hewitt. Just watching Pete play in this video makes one realize how important serve and volley is to the future of the men's tour.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
the speed of clay courts didnt change at ever since, dont look for excuses for pete for losing to random players at the french and never really doing particularly well on the surface.
You ever wondered why did sampras reach the semis of the french in 1996? It was damn hot that summer and the balls where faster than usual. Sampras wouldnt win the french even if he was the only Top 20 player in the tournament.
How about Sampras losing to Hewitt cause he was 30 years old and out of his prime?
89Pleasek 1 year ago
youve got your own opinion, i respect that
but to say that a player is better than the other just because his style is "more badass" thats just lame
89Pleasek 1 year ago
@89Pleasek lol, i meant in terms of visual
killerkitten1000 1 year ago
just tried reading his serve its pretty much impossible thats why fed n petes serves are better than roddick even though he hits it harder, think they place the ball slightly better too
lagerandapacketcrisp 2 years ago
Sampras's service motion was a thing of beauty. It was very smooth and wasn't as troublesome for his shoulder as many other players' motions.
Gizo02 2 years ago
wow. two amazing players
mattread95 2 years ago
contemplation09 you're comment is too funny and nice, really...english language/slang is not my native tongue, and even the form it was formuled made me laugh for sooo long, thanks!
Thetoughestweight1 2 years ago
Top Gun, "Pistol Pete" is the main man on the block, don't mess with this Muva Fucka, he gone serve and volley on you all, chip and charge your lame asses - he's the Dude. RESPECT
contemplation09 2 years ago 3
drop volley off probably a 85-90 mph agassi groundstroke at 1.10, just bring up thoughts of seriously, WTF lol. class tennis.
VillaJoe100 2 years ago 2
I totally admire these two contrasting style of play. Nice!!!
alkstenfogee 2 years ago
whoa, i just marvel at the serving and his bh volleys!! as a serve volleyer, this is like watching a how-to guide! you win some/lose some but sv is key about persistence too! maybe will see another GS sv-er again someday'
exitingforward 2 years ago 2
Pete was just awesome, boy do I miss his style of tennis.
Schrittwieser 2 years ago 3
My Question is...
What part of him contributed most to his ability to serve and volley.
Serve?
Reflexes?
Volleying?
Ability to Recover?
Name what you think and why in a response plz.
JahJoJah 2 years ago
Definately his serve is first. I believe if he's been doing it against the best returner ever its gotta be the serve. Otherwise Agassi will just rip an OK serve past him or anyone else.
Edberg in my opinion is the best serve and Vollyer but he wouldn't be as succsseful if he encountered a returner like a Courier or Aggasi during their prime Era.
That's why Sampras's serve contributed the most.
piccalocb 2 years ago
Good answer and reasoning. Anyone else got an idea?
JahJoJah 2 years ago
Edberg had losing records against Agassi and Courier. Stefan's high kick serve gave lots of players fits, but it did not bother Courier or Agassi. Of course, Stefan was slight past his prime when Agassi and Courier were beating him.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
A consistent 1st & 2nd serve with bite. His serve gains more pace when it hits the ground, coupled with a solid volley augmented with great hands. So, effortless effortlessness makes his volley penertrating and decisive. Note that he uses a very heavy racket, which does the work. He lets the 60 pound tension strings present a "wall". Sampras is an object lesson in keeping your head still, eyes on the ball, balance, great knee bend coupled with decisiveness - contributed to his superb volley.
contemplation09 2 years ago
As an after thought: Sampras keeps his volley simple. He gets the racket face into the right place and the rest takes care of itself. This is what I mean by effortless effortlessness.
contemplation09 2 years ago
Aggressive intent and his decisiveness more than anything (and truck loads of natural talent and feel). And simplicity and economy (of both his physical movement and his thinking)
synergee 2 years ago
i think it was first, his serve, and second, his placement. his placement on volley is just incredible.
cryofsorrow 2 years ago
His athleticism (e.g. shoulder rotation, long lunges when approaching the net, balance when making split-second moves at the net, etc.) and mentality
diggitty55 2 years ago
Can we clone these guys?
I'd chip in a few bucks.
moyergeo 2 years ago 2
that's they called him the Bird
yasser136 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Super fast courts. Advantage of Samprases service game makes a huge difference... Had it not been for his servce Sampras would not have ruled like he did
tomaszek888 3 years ago
im pretty sure he ruled wimbeldon and thats the slowest court
moffettman02 3 years ago
Clay is the slowest court.
ilovetheblues86 3 years ago
Listen moron if you come to a tennis forum say something knowledable. Your tennis knowledge is just pathetic.
juandi2570 2 years ago
You just pretty much said the equivalence of saying "without his groundstrokes, Agassi would've sucked" or "without his serve, Roddick sucks." The serve was Sampras' almighty weapon, and of course it played a big part in him being successful.
i8myshirt 3 years ago 3
Sampras had a lethal runnin' forehand and pete's backhand was pretty damn good when Pete was in his prime and Sampras played the key points better than anybody in history.
juandi2570 2 years ago 2
Super fast courts = old carpet tournaments.
Time to learn about tennis mate.
gugalpm 3 years ago
Had it not been for Federer's forehand he would not have ruled liked he did....
Had it not been for Nadal's speed...
Had it not been for Mcenroe's touch...
logant44 3 years ago
wats ur pt
sagrocket 2 years ago
Actually this was on s low court. The Deco Turf II was at it's original speed 1978-2000. Then they slowed it down in 2001-02. The sped it up from that but still slower than 1978-2000, and when a big server (Roddick) and claycourter (Ferrero) made the finals in 2003 they though they reached a happy medium.
But it is slower now than it orinally was when the US Open moved to Flushing 1978-2000.
thalivest 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
this video is cool but soo unclear
reedpower 3 years ago
The game has been purposely slowed down so all you will see is baseliner rallies 24/7. Real exciting. That is why I hardly watch it on tv anymore.
spjfrat 3 years ago 3
r u bein sarcastic when u said real exciting. some people like base line rallys
reedpower 3 years ago
Idiots like baseline rallies.
gugalpm 3 years ago
u shud tell that to nadal
reedpower 3 years ago 2
Why wouldn't I?
He's the biggest of all dopers.
gugalpm 2 years ago
proof?
reedpower 2 years ago
Dr. Fuentes is a gyno. What was Nadull doing in his list of patients?
Are you that blind?
gugalpm 2 years ago
dont they do drug tests in tennis and if so, why wasnt he caught
reedpower 2 years ago
Since when top players are caught by drug tests in professional sport?
gugalpm 2 years ago
you don't have any real proof of anything. your just speculating. maybe he saw dr.fuentes cuz he found a lump on his breast and was checking for breast cancer.
reedpower 2 years ago
what does 'cuz' means?
juansa74 2 years ago
Because.
andreboogie 2 years ago
The court surface was so much quicker back then.
quest8899 3 years ago
how fast did sampras serve?
vickmares 3 years ago
The fastest I've seen him hit was 136mph (217kmh). But he could constanlty reach the low to mod 130's, 130-135mph(208-216kmh).
thalivest 3 years ago
Hes believed to comment once in some post match interview, I guess in 90s, that his served was measured (unofficially) at around 149mph.
cammpinno 3 years ago
That's as fast as the first serve that he hit in exhibition match against Federer last year, and it didn't even look like he was trying. I think he has as much power as Roddick, but he knows that speed alone doesn't make your serve the best ever.
oplilium 3 years ago 2
I have always heard that Pete's rotation velocity on his serve was unbelievable. I never saw him play live.
mrbobevans 1 year ago
If Nadal is playing 95 Sampras in Wimbledon, is likely that Nadal will lose in straight sets since Sampras serve and volley (especially 2nd serves) and will take off Nadal's game away (his heavy topspin grondstrokes)
leonyhli 3 years ago 12
Serve and volley's last hurrah, there was a massive change after Pete when the baseliners took over. It all seemed to happen at once - just compare the SF'ists at Wimbledon in 2001 and 2002 for example.
DuncanMcA 3 years ago 4
Sorry for the quality but obviously on my PC it looks better. I am glad you like it. I sometimes use that video to pump myself up before the matches :-). Cheers
agrodner 3 years ago
Are you a serve and volleyer? (Please say yes).
Samprasisthebest 3 years ago
I would like to think so - that is probably the only thing I can do half-decently ;-). I posted a clip with two relatively clean games I played in the tournament couple years back. Enjoy and thanks for your interest.
agrodner 3 years ago
There is improvement in the quality if you add "&fmt=18" to the URL.
Thanks for the compilation!
Hypnos7 3 years ago
Awesome video!
iamdre17 3 years ago