I was the test director at the National Hover Test Facility for this test. This KKV (Kinetic Kill Vehicle) was a development testbed for an anti satellite weapon. The roll maneuver near the end of the test was to test attitude control precision while multiple divert engines are firing since the torque is so much higher.
@MultIPwnage. It's called pulse width modulation. You are correct. I work in aerospace. It is also used to dim LED lights. If you take a LED flashlight that has a dimmer built into it and wave it it will flicker if it uses PWM. Same concept as the LED is given the same voltage and current but for a shorter time and duration.
@shaftster2001 wow your funny but sorry every country is about 20 years back or more so the usa needs 100,000,000,000,000,000,fucking cookies you stuck up bitch
It just goes to show you that our Nerds are the best in the world...a national treasure actually. Consider the RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 and tell me it ain't so.
I have always loved watching these tech videos from military based tests, the jubilation of the research teams when it does wht they want it to and performs flawlessly....such is the dream of any researcher. To see their work come full circle :)
@101andrewj It is designed to be in orbit like a satellite. The thrusters are for steering and positioning the unit in the path of an ICBM missile. (It uses a high power target aquistion laser to "see" and track)
@TheRock0232 im aware of what it is, i wanted to know how much it weighed and shit, i was wondering if this vehicle could be be built large enough to be piloted and used for a different purpose
Dating a video based on its quality is how its done . Also this craft was designed to fire from a large gun.the vehicle was programmed prior to launch using Nav Sat an older form of gps via something similar to a Mk 82 firing console. Then it would navigate its way to the target after momentum loss on its on power with an on board Inertial motion sensor.
@sammair : I dont know the facts about this vehicle. The footage aired in 1999. Your going to have to provide some proof for your claims about time period. I dont believe that this is from 1983. As far as video quality, this is a VHS recording, so dont try to date it based on image quality.
@jeffgooloolie This video is not from 1983, but there was a earlier version of this called brilliant pebbles that is similar in tech and was successfulness tested in 1989. So this technology has existed for awhile.
@Apocol0id Exactly so. As soon as I saw those alien drones flying via those burst-thrust engines, I thought of this footage. I thought it was very nifty that the film makers had researched some interesting tech to use, but I think it was confusing for some viewers. My cousin said for half the movie he thought they were shooting when he saw them flying; he didn't make a connection with engine thrust till later.
@bestamerica huh? not sure what weight has anything to do with anything here. Are you implying that because it's 'hovering' in earth gravity, that it won't fly in space???
Strange observation you have made that reveals some sort of flaw in your internal logic process.
However, the japanese guy below you is right... this does indeed "Make such a noise loud one by one."
Why do they need roll control if skid-to-turn would probably be good enough? (Other than just for hover tests)
It seems that the main engines are all equally powerful, and all that is necessary besides the main engines are yaw and pitch control to keep the seeker on target.
I thought skid-to-turn was turning it without roll (eg., using yaw instead of pitch, or a combination of both of those instead of rolling, and then pitching.)
I apologize if I'm wrong on the definition of skid-to-turn but the point I wanna make is this;
Imagine you wanna divert to the 45deg direction (say to the top right hand corner) then, without roll, you would need to fire up the left and bottom thrusters at the same time. But doing this will waste up thrust by cos45deg.
Now, imagine you are to roll 45deg first, then fire up only a single thruster, you are making 100% efficiency out of the thruster. Remember, kill vehicles only have limited fuel.
well, at least it allows more agility for quick track changes.. with roll enabled the device can reach about 40% more acceleration because it can utilize 2 main engines instead of just one.
This unit is only about 2 feet wide. It positions itself in front of a incoming missile. The missile cant "see" so it flies right into the unit causing catastrophic failure of the missile.
No they have been going on since the early 90's. The more recent videos surfacing have been from the Japanese program & from more recent updates of the concept.
Correct me if I am wrong, but this is not LM's "Multiple Kill Vehicle", right?
I'm assuming this is an early Lightweight Exo-Atmospheric Projectile Kinetic Warhead (LEAP KW) prototype which ended up becoming the SDACS KW currently in the Standard Missile-3?
MKV is a project started only a few years ago, no?
@zeroyon2501 no, it was only announced a few years ago. Military projects go on for years before they announce them. The F-22 raptor was recently announced in the past decade, but after they announced it they said they have been working on it since the early 90's. In 2020 they will see technology that they are working on today.
I was the test director at the National Hover Test Facility for this test. This KKV (Kinetic Kill Vehicle) was a development testbed for an anti satellite weapon. The roll maneuver near the end of the test was to test attitude control precision while multiple divert engines are firing since the torque is so much higher.
mmhnto 1 month ago
Forgot to mention that the test took place on August 11, 1997.
mmhnto 1 month ago
ok what at 047 what is that ??/
scouttroop291 2 months ago
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dont have to show this video,,,
ussr russia can copy steal from this video
bestamerica 2 months ago
I definitely saw this before '99 on CNN, never been able to find it on their site though...
hovercycle 3 months ago
@MultIPwnage. It's called pulse width modulation. You are correct. I work in aerospace. It is also used to dim LED lights. If you take a LED flashlight that has a dimmer built into it and wave it it will flicker if it uses PWM. Same concept as the LED is given the same voltage and current but for a shorter time and duration.
repairdroid77 3 months ago
Motherffff
ianmga 3 months ago
@TheInternetizen
youtube "Kinetic Energy Interceptors Surface Navy" to find out.
XKS99 3 months ago
@shaftster2001 wow your funny but sorry every country is about 20 years back or more so the usa needs 100,000,000,000,000,000,fucking cookies you stuck up bitch
USAmilitarypower 5 months ago
What documentary is this? gimmy the name!
MultiIPwnage 5 months ago
YES! Now we will be able to shoot down all those WMD that never existed! RIGHT ON! *air punch*
misterbonzai08 7 months ago
What a nightmare, complete with the Whoops and Yells of rednecks.
electrohermit 7 months ago
did anyone else notice the similarity of this thing to the drones from "battle los angeles:?
patriot17300 7 months ago
@patriot17300 Yes, i did notice that !!!!
archon808 7 months ago
@patriot17300 Wholly intentional I'm assuming.
Harris91 7 months ago
It just goes to show you that our Nerds are the best in the world...a national treasure actually. Consider the RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 and tell me it ain't so.
1138thz 7 months ago
I have always loved watching these tech videos from military based tests, the jubilation of the research teams when it does wht they want it to and performs flawlessly....such is the dream of any researcher. To see their work come full circle :)
Kudos
xeronicus 7 months ago
Skynet.
lordhayes1 9 months ago
slap a gun on that thing and make 50,000 of them. No more need for human soldiers. Army of hovering robots!
mrkrabz1991 9 months ago
Remember when TLC was about learning things and not about a 24/7 human freakshow?
illustriouschin 10 months ago
@illustriouschin Haha, yea!
TheSkyCracker 9 months ago
imagine a large version to carry passengers
210482fmj 10 months ago
can anybody tell me the dimentions of that thing and if it could be built large enough to be manned and weaponized or would it take too much fuel?
101andrewj 10 months ago
@101andrewj It is designed to be in orbit like a satellite. The thrusters are for steering and positioning the unit in the path of an ICBM missile. (It uses a high power target aquistion laser to "see" and track)
TheRock0232 8 months ago
@TheRock0232 im aware of what it is, i wanted to know how much it weighed and shit, i was wondering if this vehicle could be be built large enough to be piloted and used for a different purpose
101andrewj 8 months ago
Dating a video based on its quality is how its done . Also this craft was designed to fire from a large gun.the vehicle was programmed prior to launch using Nav Sat an older form of gps via something similar to a Mk 82 firing console. Then it would navigate its way to the target after momentum loss on its on power with an on board Inertial motion sensor.
sammair 10 months ago
@sammair : I dont know the facts about this vehicle. The footage aired in 1999. Your going to have to provide some proof for your claims about time period. I dont believe that this is from 1983. As far as video quality, this is a VHS recording, so dont try to date it based on image quality.
jeffgooloolie 10 months ago
@jeffgooloolie This video is not from 1983, but there was a earlier version of this called brilliant pebbles that is similar in tech and was successfulness tested in 1989. So this technology has existed for awhile.
mrkrabz1991 9 months ago
@jeffgooloolie ya but usa had theses before 1999 because that would help the satellites not go into earth or travel to far
USAmilitarypower 5 months ago
1983 General Dynamics NOT 1999 LM I don't care what you say. I was there. look at the video quality, what the hell's goin' on here????
sammair 10 months ago
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sammair 10 months ago
The ships in Battle : Los Angeles have a lot of similar propulsion effects as this thing.
Apocol0id 10 months ago
@Apocol0id Exactly so. As soon as I saw those alien drones flying via those burst-thrust engines, I thought of this footage. I thought it was very nifty that the film makers had researched some interesting tech to use, but I think it was confusing for some viewers. My cousin said for half the movie he thought they were shooting when he saw them flying; he didn't make a connection with engine thrust till later.
Etaukan 10 months ago
Who the hell thumbed this down? China?
darius2025tube 11 months ago
imagine the technology they really have. they are 25 to 50 years in advance from the public.. and the elite are going to use it against you and me
yappertrap 1 year ago
What documentary is this?
EmperorOfMars 1 year ago
@EmperorOfMars : I dont know for sure, but i think it is Beyond2000. Its from Discovery channel, back when they had interesting shows.
archon808 1 year ago
@archon808 thanks bro
EmperorOfMars 1 year ago
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wow that is a so great rocket,,,
earth gravity and outer space gravityless are 2 big different weight for rocket
bestamerica 1 year ago
@bestamerica huh? not sure what weight has anything to do with anything here. Are you implying that because it's 'hovering' in earth gravity, that it won't fly in space???
Strange observation you have made that reveals some sort of flaw in your internal logic process.
However, the japanese guy below you is right... this does indeed "Make such a noise loud one by one."
darius2025tube 11 months ago
いちいち騒ぐなうるさい。
japanesekimuch 1 year ago
こんな事でいちいち騒ぐなうるさい。
japanesekimuch 1 year ago
reminds me so much of the drones in bf2142
this would be useful with armor plating + possibly a very accurate gun
1245678987 1 year ago
It's a monster!!
Januacaeli 1 year ago
you know this could be great for you but like in terminator slavation jugdement day may arrive ☻♥♦♣♠•◘○
LOLChrisX 1 year ago
who's technology was this originally? i men who came up with this first? is it japan?
saleall 1 year ago
@saleall It's cold war stuff, so I'm going to assume that it's U.S.
johntheactor 1 year ago
like the chinese Mercedes Benz... :D chinese=stollen people stollen our standard, our machines...but our quality system not yet :P
tturit 2 years ago 3
Son of a bitch... the days of fighter-interceptors are numbered!
rtrThanos 2 years ago
@rtrThanos
Seem like its lacking shielding so i forsee it being extreamly vulnerable to Microwave ADS
Lokivoid 1 year ago
@Lokivoid true.. i think the next countermeasure would be an EMP (magnified by an internal conic section) on the incoming missile.
jasonguyperson 1 year ago
I remember seeing this when I was in High School. Then I just recently saw a similar test vid on TV, and it jogged my memory. Thanks for posting!
tmaher725 2 years ago
SCIENCE!
mexicanerd 2 years ago 3
ufo's are awesome
nosnoma 2 years ago
They ought to get these in the shops for Xmas. Even better than those miniature helicopters from last year!
Cruithne3753 2 years ago 14
Why do they need roll control if skid-to-turn would probably be good enough? (Other than just for hover tests)
It seems that the main engines are all equally powerful, and all that is necessary besides the main engines are yaw and pitch control to keep the seeker on target.
f38stingray 2 years ago
Because they could get set into a spin from external factors and using the side thrusters would fuck it up in that situation
Needs roll control in order to control roll
This is bleedin obvious
adrastea99 2 years ago
I said other than for hover tests. Guidance in space doesn't necessitate an up or down, and there are minimal external factors.
My question is why they would need to control roll at all.
f38stingray 2 years ago
Guidance in space definitively requires roll
What if the plasma booster on one end runs out of fuel? Spin that shit
What if lower atmosphere interferes? Spin that shit
What if ejection from launch vehicle gives you some trouble? Spin that shit
etc etc
adrastea99 2 years ago
Well if Starfox taught us anything, is that barrel rolls SAVE LIVES.
Alb1 2 years ago 9
Hey, you need to roll in order to perform skid-to-turn...
snowmansnowma5 2 years ago
I thought skid-to-turn was turning it without roll (eg., using yaw instead of pitch, or a combination of both of those instead of rolling, and then pitching.)
f38stingray 2 years ago
I apologize if I'm wrong on the definition of skid-to-turn but the point I wanna make is this;
Imagine you wanna divert to the 45deg direction (say to the top right hand corner) then, without roll, you would need to fire up the left and bottom thrusters at the same time. But doing this will waste up thrust by cos45deg.
Now, imagine you are to roll 45deg first, then fire up only a single thruster, you are making 100% efficiency out of the thruster. Remember, kill vehicles only have limited fuel.
snowmansnowma5 2 years ago
Oh, ok, thanks.
f38stingray 2 years ago
well, at least it allows more agility for quick track changes.. with roll enabled the device can reach about 40% more acceleration because it can utilize 2 main engines instead of just one.
83bismuth 2 years ago
This is not an MKV (the terminated program).
This is the EKV (exo-atmospheric kill-vehicle).
At the time it was built, it was the most complex machine ever made by man...now bettered by the MKV (which this is not)/
jeremysena 2 years ago
OMG, EKV is 1.4m in length and weighs 64kg.. This is the KE-ASAT from Boeing...
snowmansnowma5 2 years ago
You are correct. It is the KE-ASAT. My bad.
But my primary point is still valid, and the EKV is still awesome.
jeremysena 2 years ago
I think this flight was at least 10 years ago...
scatt99 2 years ago
these's are some of the so-called ufo people are seeing, u.s.military
Conservativepacheat 2 years ago 2
This unit is only about 2 feet wide. It positions itself in front of a incoming missile. The missile cant "see" so it flies right into the unit causing catastrophic failure of the missile.
jeffgooloolie 2 years ago
This is from Reagan's STAR WARS Program. Back in the eightes
jleeleeleejlee 2 years ago
Negetive...This system was developed for the SM3 Missile or Aegis System put into service around 2005
jtlovett27 2 years ago
i thought these tests were just last December 08
kroftkarl 2 years ago
No they have been going on since the early 90's. The more recent videos surfacing have been from the Japanese program & from more recent updates of the concept.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
Correct me if I am wrong, but this is not LM's "Multiple Kill Vehicle", right?
I'm assuming this is an early Lightweight Exo-Atmospheric Projectile Kinetic Warhead (LEAP KW) prototype which ended up becoming the SDACS KW currently in the Standard Missile-3?
MKV is a project started only a few years ago, no?
zeroyon2501 3 years ago
This is the LMMKV in 2000. A few years ago.... no.
jeffgooloolie 3 years ago
Both of you are wrong... This is the KE-ASAT developed by Boeing, which was test in 1997. It is not an MKV nor LM...
snowmansnowma5 2 years ago
@zeroyon2501 no, it was only announced a few years ago. Military projects go on for years before they announce them. The F-22 raptor was recently announced in the past decade, but after they announced it they said they have been working on it since the early 90's. In 2020 they will see technology that they are working on today.
mrkrabz1991 9 months ago
its a shell. there's no battle action for those things. they just hit the target on an orbit and blow up
ActiveStorage 3 years ago
starting at about :35, NERDGASM. love it
yoikes 3 years ago
Was it responding to voice commands?!
laughingcheese1 3 years ago
No, the engineer was just calling out the name of the pre programmed maneuver.
jeffgooloolie 3 years ago
How big is it, anyone know? It seemed to stay up for quite a while.
zuperxtreme 3 years ago
Video states it's 12 inches long.
BoPunk2point0 3 years ago
Heh, I'm an idiot. Thanks.
zuperxtreme 3 years ago 2
B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L!
sandinsx 3 years ago