It wasn't just one thousand Spaniards versus the entire Aztec empire. People seem to forget the 50,000 or so non Aztec natives that the Spaniards recruited to their side. Also, the Chinese invented gunpowder, not the Europeans.
The ceramic sling balls made me cringe more than any other of the weapons. Earthenware is sharp when it breaks, unbelievably sharp. Not to mention the weight and speed that that thing traveled. Couple that with the infection that would inset from thousands of tiny razor sharp bit of low fired clay embedded deep in the skin....... Not pleasant at all.
putos españoles ni valientes ni muy inteligentes solo eran manipuladores a con venecia de ellos mismos contaron la istoria pero no escierto del todo solo la considencia de que los aztecas pensavan que era quesacothatl un dios y pensaron que el puto cortez era sino no la mentira no havian conquistao a los aztecas por que apezar de sus armas eran pocos no conocian el terreno y no uviera avido alianzas auque los pueblos vajo dominio nunca lo uvieran permitido ellos los aztecas por su ferozida en bt
Spaniards didn't want that war. the other native peoples did. Cortez won because he knew how to manipulate the enemies of the Mexicas (real name of what we know as aztecs) politically.
Ciertamente no querían la guerra quería el oro, su maldita codicia pudo mas y decidió ese genocida de Cortés quemarle los pies a Cuahutemoc estando vivo. @33amra33 Cuahutemoc nunca se quejó. Esos eran hombres decentes y valientes, y no los malditos rateros, asesinos, trinqueteros, y genocidas que en mala hora llegaron a esas tierras.
Bartolomé de las Casas a según, cuidó y protegió a los indígenas, pero por otro lado ifamemente les metió a huevo su estúpida religión y los sometió con palabras melosas para que le sirvieran de esclavos a sus paisanos y Bernal Díaz del Castillo fué un mitómano desalmado criminal junto con sus compañeros. Tanto peca el que mata a la vaca como el que le agarra la pata.
Ud escribió ésta barrabasada: Noxiuhcoatl The archaeological researches in the mayan lowlands (just for making my example), have revealed that most of the sacrificed individuals were sick and small, due to famine and poor higiene.Traducción:Las investigaciones arqueológicas en las tierras bajas mayas (sólo para hacer mi ejemplo), han revelado que la mayoría de los individuos sacrificados estaban enfermos y pequeños, debido a la hambruna y la higiene deficiente. ACERTIXO COMENTA. Ud lo dijo
darles el nombre de americanos a los nativos me parece no es el nombre apropiado. @Liquit31 El Norte había varias tribus. En México los aztecas en el sur los Incas. Es un insulto que les digan americanos. Mañana voy a ir a Europa y los voy a Llamar Nahuatlacos. Me van a decir que estoy loco. Eso mismo les contesto a ellos.¿Como van a descubrir un continente que tenía una población de 80 millones de seres humanos? Es algo estúpido.
We must not forget the Aztecs were a brutal empire who made plenty of enemies amongst they're neighbors & the Spanyards were not nearly as horrible as the Aztecs. This is why they're neighbors allied them selves to the Spanyards!
@crypter27 That not an historically accurate claim. The Aztecs deliberately continued a long standing Mesoamerican tradition of empire building and most of the practices Europeans consider to be brutal were, in actuality, practiced all over the region. The Spaniards won allies through fear - by burning entire villages, destroying sacred idols, and waging a more savage and destructive form of warfare than what was familiar to the Natives.
@crypter27 I concur with Crypter here. It's documented fact that other native peoples (most notably the Tlaxcalans, who've been demonized in Mexican culture ever since), willingly joined forces with the Spaniards because they hated the Aztecs. The Tlaxcalans, whom the Aztecs never conquered, wanted to finish them off once and for all, and the Aztec's subjects were tired of having their sons & daughters seized for the slaughter. Claims that they were forced are pure, revisionist bullshit.
@Tizmaole So true,some times the Aztecs sacrificed whole families & this is a level of brutality that not even the spanierds would even think of doing because of they're Catholic belief's. Sure they'd conqur foreghn lands & probably would put enemies in an exicution device known as gerret,but most resistance came from men or warrior armies or men. Women & children were offlimits,the Spanyierds did most of they're killing in battle & those who converted were spared subjegation.
@crypter27@Tizmaole Well, the Chilam Balam, Bartolomé de las Casas, the annonymous manuscript from Tlatelolco and the oral tradition and lore of many indigenous groups, at least in Mexico, refer these mater a bit different. The Chilam Balam of Chumayel, e.g., says that the spaniards stole the mayan's "flowers" (a metaphor refering their daughters and young women) to nurture their own (to grow their numbers, by mating with them, usually by force).
@crypter27 Tell that to the mesoamerican people. The archaeological researches in the mayan lowlands (just for making my example), have revealed that most of the sacrificed individuals were sick and small, due to famine and poor higiene. The most accepted interpretacion is that those individuals were orphans or homeless; the exceptions were the well-nurtured male adults with strong phisique: the captured warriors and lords.
¡ Oí nomas! Ahora resulta que sacrificaban a los pequeños y pobres y con pobre higiene. ¿Que le pasa? y cita al imbécil de Bartolomé de las Casas un mitómano rodeado de asesinos, ambiciosos y genocidas, que mataban todo lo que encontraban a su paso para robarles, humillarlos y abusarlos. @Noxiuhcoatl Eso son los cadáveres que han encontrado los estúpidos arqueólogos. Gente que fué sacrificada en aras de la religión Católica. Nada que ver con los mayas.
@ACERTIXO2002 ¿Habla usted del Bartolomé de las Casas que litigó por años para que se reconociese la dignidad del hombre indio? ¿Del mismo que dio la pauta para que apareciera la llamada "Leyenda Negra" a la que usted tan bien se apega? Porque si es así, amigo mío, lamento informarle que se está mordiendo su propia cola.
Y, por cierto, aclaro (porque parece que no leyó bien lo que escribí): sacrificaban a guerreros jóvenes y a huérfanos y mendigos. Punto.
@crypter27 They prefered to sacrifice those who were not necessarily living a "happy" life. This doesn't contradicts the mexi'ca' version of the story (neither it confirmes it), but it certainly lights a probably "Leyenda Negra" built by the Tlaxcalteca' against the Triple alianza (especially the mexi'ca'). And no, i do not think about the tlaxcalteca' as traitors; they were fighting their enemy and that'a all.
@crypter27 Let's not be too quick to praise the Spaniards: these are the same wonderful folks who gave us the Inquisition. But for all that, I've no doubt they were appalled by the high-capacity slaughter factory that the Aztecs ran. They would surely have judged it the work of Satan, and in stamping out the Aztec faith, THOUGHT they were doing Mexico a favor.
As for Noxy's crap below about the Maya (I've blocked him, BTW), it's irrelevant to the Aztecs. He's grasping at straws to insult us.
Dude, is so sad you take an comparative argument as an insult. And it is not crap, is the history of millions of people. And, by the way, to express yourself using expressions as: "high-capacity slaughter factory", that, my friend, is true racism and exotism. Very sad, indeed.
Technically, the Spanish didn't use their armored plates because of the hot temperatures and lack of maneuverability so they started wearing the cotton armor used by the Aztecs to shield themselves from arrows.
@alexiaNBC What they did, actually, was strip down to their "gambesons," the padding that they already wore underneath their armor. They didn't copy the Aztecs' design.
@Noxiuhcoatl Not only are you wrong, but you're contradicting yourself! Armor can't be too hot AND too cold. And I just established that the padding under their armor WASN'T as hot as full plates. You're not even listening, are you? ;-)
Don't jump into threads without reading them first.
@Tizmaole Cold when it is cold, hot under the full sun. No contradictions here. The mexi'ca's armors where ligther and well suited for combat in Mesoamerica, the padding under the spaniards armor wasn't. Why use a heavy and uncomftable "steel plate-felt" armor, when a lighter (and equally effective) version was available? A simple reason to choose the local technology. And no, i am not LISTENING to anyone who i'm READING (including myself).
@Noxiuhcoatl Only contradictions, esp. since you don't know that the Mexican armor was more comfortable! You've probably never even heard of a gambeson before, much less worn one: you made up your mind in advance. Much like the Spaniards: they were opposed to adopting *any* native customs, on principle. (By the way, armor was *only* hot.)
"...i am not LISTENING to anyone who i'm READING (including myself)." - Can't argue, capitalize, or use proper grammar. Even your putdowns are incoherent!
@Tizmaole I've never worn one, true, but do you know how they made the reinforced cotton armors? I, for myself, prefere cotton before felt or horse hair. :S
And no, they adopted many things: the habit of drinking chocolate, the local ingredients, a great amount of indigenous words, etc.
And, forgive my multiple mistakes, i do not usually employ english to communicate (not since i was twelve), i prefere mi mother language or the local ones.
@Noxiuhcoatl I *have* worn gambesons, Renaissance clothing, and/or armor. I have worn this stuff on parade, marching with a 14-foot spear! I've worn it under exertion, in 100-degree sun AND in the rain. I helped Mom make a gambeson for a friend. So I can say there's a big difference in comfort between that, and plate armor. I can also say that any armor is hot, Spanish or Mexican.
Spain brought as they took back: pigs, horses, steel, diseases, the Church, DNA. Mexico is both, not just one.
@Tizmaole And who said Mexico is not inheritor of Spanish values and culture? O.o I am just saying that the spaniards were not retarded, they used the things they wanted to use from the societies they found; for example: the armor (better suited for this climates and prepared for this style of warfare, cheaper, lighter, etc.). If my memory is right, Sahagún and De las Casas recorded this phenomenon.
@Noxiuhcoatl I'll believe it when I read it, because I've shown that it makes no sense. And seemingly every Mexican denies their Spanish heritage, glamorizing the Aztecs, denying their Spanish ancestry, damning the Spaniards' memory, and literally screaming "Go back to Europe!" at every Anglo. Mexicans can be racist, too.
Besides, I have hard experience to base my position on; you're not even sure of your sources. That, you refuse to admit, stubbornly clinging to "facts" I've disproven.
@Tizmaole Well, apparently you believe that the YouTube anti-spaniards-trolls are representative of Mexico as a whole. Alfonso Reyes, Enrique Krauze, Monsiváis, etc. All of them have written about the subject, all of them have appointed the relevance of the spanish culture in Mexico's own cultural reality. And, if I do not remember well my sources, that's because i have read a lot... :S Sahagún, Benavente, de las Casas, all the refered above these ones and more.
@Tizmaole By the way, i do not agree with you completely, they did not brought as they took. They took far more good things than they brought, and they brought more bad things that they took. Many societies died here, one got richer there... An unfair deal, if someone asks the millions of indigenous survivors. :S
@Noxiuhcoatl You don't agree with me AT ALL: you've made that perfectly clear from the outset. Moreover, you're arguing dishonestly, backhandedly implying that I'm a racist, which is a cowardly cheap shot.
@Tizmaole I, by no means, have called you a racist. In fact i must say you are one of the few individuals (including latins) who i ever met in YouTube, who can express themselves with a degree of objectivity about this issues. Please, do not missunderstand my previous replies, i wouldn't like to end this without a "handshake".
@Tizmaole Go read Matthew Restalls "Seven Myths of the Spanish Conquest". It covers the armor and weapon issue to a great extent. And as for your propaganda comment, I have no idea what I would have to gain or what effect my statement would have beyond making a few Youtubers think...
How can they say that the superiority of the Spanish weapons "can't be bourne out" when they clearly show the Spanish sword destroying the Aztec sword on contact, and the musket shooting through the shield. The only Aztec weapon that worked against the Spanish armor was the sling, the obsidian swords and arrowheads shattered on contact.
I think because, as said in the movie, most wounds and/or fatal blows the spaniards took were around the neck and the armor. Imagine an aztec warrior standing in front of you. You take the first attack. He dodges and makes a move, cutting of your arm (or worse your head). I don't the Spanish soldier would just carry on the fight. Even a blow with a blunt maquahuitl could knock someone down. Knowing some warrior strats, I don't think aztecs would have carried only one weapon.
@shalis16 The Aztecs weren't familiar with the Spanish armor, the hits they got around the weak points in the armor were basically lucky. Despite leaving the neck, groin and armpits vulnerable to arrows, the Spanish armor protected the vital regions of the abdomen, the shoulder guards protected the shoulders and upper arms, the hip guards on the sides protected the hips and upper thighs and the flanges on the sides of the helmet protected the neck from downward blows with a sword.
I think the aztec didn't knew about the armor at first. But they also thought that the Spanish soldiers and their horses were demigods. Later they realised that the conquistadors weren't demigods and could be killed. I think they learned about the armor too. But you're probably right about the shoulder (etc.) guards. Anyways, thanks for your comment =)
realmente los españoles que expedicionaron en Mexico vinieron al valle de Mexico Acompañados por tlaxcaltecas they were not alone and their weapons are not accurately reproduced that wood looks weak you should check Mexican they are trees that when you try to hack them down your axe gets stuck they also had to use them against other wooden club so they had to be durable we are in a majority Mestizos with really high American genetic percentages you can consult UNAM and their genome institutes
@thebigs14 THANK YOU!!!! WHY THEY ALWAYS MAKE THE "AZTECS" LOOK WEAK BUT EVERYOTHER INDIGENOUS GROUP STRONG & UNBEATABLE... THE MEXICA NATION FELL TO GERMS & DISEASES THAT IS IT!!!! BUT U ALSO GOTTA THROW IN THEY WERE OUTNUMBERED BY SPANISH & TLAXCALAN & OTHER CONFEDERACIES ALSO!!! BUT WE BACK & WERE KICKING ASS AGAIN!!! MEXICA TIAHUI
I think its silly that so many people think that brown skinned mexicans are half spanish. Cortez came over with about 500 blonde and blued eyed europeans. The very term hispanic to me is silly. We don't called the Sioux or the Navajo Hisenglish. I think that this very silly. I am married to a beautiful Azteca and when I look at her I don't see a european even though her last name is spanish. The Spanish came over changed names and languages not blood. How are these people metizos?
They forget horses in this documentary and also the shock from gunpowder. When a cannon fires you feel the shockwawe also it must have terified them. And another thing when the Spanish were conquering Tenochtitlan they had a huge army of indians helping them they were mostly enemys of aztecs.....
@kolotiti Definitely, the Spanish groups where way to small on their own to do the entire invasion. They also had another and less obvious weapon. Writing and printing allowed the second wave of invaders to be more successful then Cortes's initial. Pizarro had the advantage of knowing that capturing the Incan emperor would cause chaos in the Inca government and army.
id rather have the spanish weapons. no offense to anyone of aztec ancestry but with a metal chest piece, a borgonet helmet, and a steel blade and a few pistols(they would carry many)..it seems id be better off with a force of more men armoured like me
@Shilohmx1 Um... no they're not. Unless you mean the modern descendants who have african admixture from all the blacks that were brought here by the Europeans.
Isn't it strange how in all cultures and religions there's parallels? Look at the story of the flood, look a the story of Prometheus, look at stories of a Deity coming down to Earth and Promising to come back. Is it a coincidence?
@venian646 Look at Huitzilopochtli, who was born fully mature as a man and killed thousands of his brothers with a fire serpent. Or perhaps look at his mother, Coatlicue, who wore a skirt of serpents and whose head is formed by two facing serpents and has clawed feet and wears a necklace of human hearts and skulls. Look at the 4 previous worlds each destroyed by a Fire, Jaguars, a flood, and an earthquake. Yeah, LOTS of similarities.
How is it possible that people in the Americas developed similar weapons, tactics, economy, beliefs, political systems to those of the "Old World" without ever having contact with them? by old world i mean Europe, Africa and Asia.
@alesanarocksmexico no im talking about before the spaniards arrived, before them there was no contact except maybe for the vikings but that was in canada, greenland.
@venian646 thats what i say , maybe there was another ship , the probabilities are so big that a ship got lost and ended up in the mexican territory , in so much time before the year 00 and 1400 ?
@venian646 What are you talking about? RESEARCH where votes and the judicial, executive, and legilative branch structure came from? Even the system of square street blocks... NATIVES! lol. Europe had monarchies, kings, queens, holy "bloodlines", and emporers, and curving non-sensical streets with pointy corners. Asia as well had emporers and Shoguns or any other names for feudal lords.
My parents and me where born in Guadalajara Mexico does than mean I have Aztec blood in me? If somebody can please answer me this because I would love to know more about my ancestors ..
It was the other indian tribes that hated the blood thirsty aztecs the ones who tipped the balance, cause they all banded with the spanish, and they provided invaluable help in terms of intel, provisions, lodging, bases of operations, raw men power, and of course, warriors.
Vivo los caballeros de Santiago Greatest knights in history
equal in weapons, superior in faith
"Y fue arrojado el gran dragón, la serpiente antigua que se llama diablo y Satanás, el cual engaña a todo el mundo. Fue arrojado a la tierra, y sus ángeles fueron arrojados junto con él" - Rev 12:9
jajaja los indios con esas mierdas solo se descalabraban entre ellos son bien culos, los tomaban prisioneros para despues amarrarlos como un puerco de una pata y matarlo a palos para despues tragarselo ! eran canibales los monos chilangos asquerosos !
my history book pretty much say that the small pox wiped out all the fighters .. the Spanish had no one to fight ... the Spanish weapons had no effect - although when the Spanish where driven out of Aztec capitol the first time as they fled for their lives .. the spanish even ... themselves spoke highly of the Aztec swordsmanship as excellent.
@theephraimite Only after he defeated them, read Bernal Diaz. Corez was not welcomed with open arms, this was a dangerus place and all the people involved were dangerous on all sides. it's just a remarkable coincidence that Spain discovered the Americas the same time the Aztecs predicted a dangerous visitor (Quexelquatl) and at the same time that Spain had reached the pinnacle of European military (having just defeated the Swiss)
the spanish cut the first wave of warriors (usually the Jaguar or the eagles) to pieces rather quickly and the rest ditched when they saw the elite going down in minutes.
Also the Aztec were fighting to capture prisoners, the Spanish fought to kill.
@cipslim Well, that's more of a missunderstanding, the Mexica and their neighboring states (who shared most of their religious traditions) organized ritual battles called the "Flower Wars", the armies of the states which were taking part of the battle would fight until one got a preset number of prisoners (and "won"), the prisoners would be taken to be sacrificed throughout the following year. It, is presumable that in this type of warfare their priority would be capturing, but not in real war.
Cortez didn't have any Indian allies when he first landed. Read Bernal Diaz. They also only had 13 muskets and 14 crossbows, 3 small cannon and about 20 heavy cavalry. The rest (about 500 men) were rotoleros, light infantry with swords and shields, and halberdiers. Smallpox was a very important factor, but there is not taking away from the fact that the Spanish were tough as nails. They had just driven the Moors out of Spain, and the conquered all over the world, not just in Mexico.
Not that I advocate the conquest of mexico but you're right, the spaniards were some tuff mothafuckas, just like the aztecs. it was a clash of the toughest in the "old" world against the toughes in the "new". I give credit to the spaniards for not turning back even though they encountered an unknown enemy from which the only thing known was that it was fiercer than any encountered in amrica. and i give credit to the aztecs for having the balls to fight literally to the very end.
EVERYBODY KNWZ DISEASES WERE "THE" ONLY REASON THE SPANISH WON... PERIOD THE FACTZ ARE HERE IN FRONT OF UR FUCKN RETARDED AZZ EYEZ AND STILL WANNA DEBATE... LIKE EUROPEANZ ARE FUCKN SUPERMEN...SORRY LIL HITLERZ UR NOT... TO ALL MY MEXICANZ... PLEASE STUDY HIZTORY AND SEE THAT IT WAZ MORE OF OURSELVEZ TO BLAME THAN EUROPEANZ!!!! DNT GIVE THEZE FAAAAGZ TO MUCH CREDIT THAN WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE... MEXICA TIAHUI
It's nice to see that someone got the effectiveness of the sling right finally. As for the intro song in the beginning of the vid.. eat my cracker shit and die, m.f..
@coco7010: its true the spanish had allies, most of which sided with the spanish in order to get out of paying tribute to the aztec empire. And whom were quick to turn against the spanish when they realized they had to pay tribute to the crown.
I must amend this inferior historical account with some irrefutable data. The Spanish had tens of thousands of indigenous allies like the Tlaxcalans. The Tlaxcalans were rewarded by the Spanish for their loyalty and viciousness against the Aztecs. UNfortunately they were wiped out by smallpox in the 1560's.
You can visit Tlaxcala today. It is a charming city near Puebla.
@coco7010 I agree, a lot of historical sources give too much credit to the Spanish and barely mention the thousands of warriors supplied by places such as Tlaxcala and Cholula, they only mention the natives as baggage porters etc
@coco7010 By wiped out are you referring that they where all exterminated completely? because that was not the case, although the Spanish diseases did kill most of the population there was a 10% of that population that survived, 10% would equal a million to a million and a half. The native population reached its lowest number by the mid 17th century when there where anywhere from 1 to 1.5 million, from here and on the native population started recovering.
@coco7010 The native population develop its immunity against the Spanish diseases, like all populations after years the body become used to the diseases and became more immune to them. By the Mexican Independence in 1821 there where now more than 3,600,000 Amerindians, which made more than 60% of the total population. So its not true when they say that all the Amerindians died out, in other countries like the USA yes, but its not the case for every other American country.
@tlilcuauhtli I was referring to the Tlaxcallans who were mostly wiped out by smallpox in the late 16th century.
My phrase, "Wiped out," is hyperbole. Obviously some people survived. I did not suggest that all people with an iota of Tlaxcallan blood have been killed.
@coco7010 There is no "Tlaxcallan blood" just like there is no "Aztec blood" or "Roman blood", the tlaxcaltecs much like the Mexicas where an empire, only much smaller. They where not a separate race.
@tlilcuauhtli You are being overly pedantic. If you want to really get technical, there is no such thing as a, "race," only differing phenotypic tendencies among various hominid populations manifested through 10,000's of years of environmental pressures and genetic drift.
"Race" cannot be scientifically defined without an overwhelming amount of exceptions diluting the definition thus rendering it useless and unscientific. It's a good definition for racists and politicians, however. :-)
@tlilcuauhtli "Blood" in ethnic conversations is usually used as a metaphor. YOu know this. To say I have Mexican blood is a metaphor to describe a combination of social/cultural/historical- and genetic tendencies and phenomenon. It does not ACTUALLY mean that I have the same blood as Diego Rivera or Octavio Paz or Jose Jose.
There are only FOUR types of human blood in the world. A, B, AB and O. The rest is metaphor. Are we actually arguing about something?
@coco7010 Its very complicated when there is talk about this subject. I know that there is no different "human races" we are all the same human race, and all those blood types are really shared by all people around the world.
@tlilcuauhtli Well "america" took the cake for demographic intolerance and obsessive genocide...which would explain clear as day its patriotic socio-political movements and legislative agendas being more fervent against other races today in comparison with its canadian and mexican neighbors...
@Machetazo1 I dont know about Canada? and certainly comparing it with Mexico is rediculous. The evarage mexican is amerindian racially, and or predomantly amerindian.You would easly tell the difference between an average mexican (Not the ones shown in tv) and average canadian. Other countries like Argentina are predomantly european, but even they have some sort of amerindian ancestry,
I love it. Some brown mexican nigger singing to the white man “we don’t want your money.” Yeah, that’s why you mexicans scramble north like roaches and take all the money you can get. Worthless parasites.
Mecicas, saying someone invented cannibalism is like saying someone invented war. 1. You don't know the first person or culture to resort to a desperate base instinct, or to turn it into religious nonsense. 2. It doesn't matter who was first, if other cultures arrived at it independently. Some things happen just because people are desperate or because brutality is an innate human characteristic. 3. Lumping all "Indians" together in time, race, culture and culpability is breathtakingly stupid.
@MexicasRracists cannobolism..These fantasies, exaggerations true product of sick minds were used to try to lessen the guilt genocidal conquerors and commissioners. The painful tribulations suffered by the Aztec population during the siege have tried to ignore them.
@exupipus Again cannobolism was invented by the Indians, these are not fantasies or exaggerations. There are proven facts that these have occured. It is obvious you need to go to the library and read up.
Cortes aware that some people were able to go out at night to fetch wood and roots and herbs to eat, according to Gomara records, his "hero" made a great slaughter of them, "as the most were women and children and unarmed men were almost .
@exupipus according to several historians, Cortes was attacked by the Aztecs and the Aztecas almost had a monopoly on all of the "Mexican" "Indian" Tribes in mexico and worked there way up to South Texas where they were stopped by Europeans. Some American "Indians" Natives were murdered and defeated by the mexican Indian Tribes. Its even told that the American Indians were happy and joyful that the Europeans stepped in and helped them defeat the Aztecas.
And he says the same Gomara that after the defeat, the Spanish "walking through the city found piles of dead bodies in the houses, streets and water. If the Mexicans had been cannibals had not suffered from hunger during the siege. "The Myth of cannibalism. W. Arens."
Taima Taima, an oil field site in northern Venezuela, fragmentary tools were found with cut mastodon bones 41,000 to 12,000 B.P *Pedra Furada investigators found stone tools and charcoal hearths at the earliest levels, and radiocarbon dates suggested the site might have been occupied as early as 40,000 – 50,000 years B.C. In the Andes highlands of Peru, early work had uncovered possible big-game kill sites dating to as early as 20,000 years ago, etc. The white race does not exist at this time!
@exupipus The White race does exist during this time. Do you know the difference bewteen Caveman and Neanderthals? They existed since that time. During the 40,000-50,000 B.C. some Europeans built a boat and sailed across the Artic and settled in Virgina State as we know it today. Boat remains and folsals gave been found and scientists have comfired artifacts (aka, utinsils and pottery) oh they just recently viewed this on the NetGeo channel in case you might not make it to the library.
You need to look at us as the victims of your people's ongoing criminal racist greed---and past barbaric criminal actions. You need to look at us realistically, not as some remnants of some almost extinct animals that you have caged in a zoo (that you call a ghetto or a reservation) for the amusement of your people.
@exupipus I dont look at you guys as innocent victims b/c your not. First non of your people today lived in the past, only heard stories or lies. Your people have murdered people, took land from people, and raped and beat people as well. However I dont look at you people as extinct animals. I look at you guys as humans with the same type of sinful background like any other human being living or nonliving. Since the beginning of time it has ALWAYS been in our human nature conquest and conquer.
You need to put yourselves in our shoes to see our people's losses of the wealth of our land, and your missing guilt, and your ignorance of how you profit from the crimes of your ancestors, and your people's lack of humanity in all of this monstrous history.
And this isn't just in Anahuac that your people have done this. Your people did this in Hawaii, the Philippines, Alaska, etc...and everywhere else that your race has gone on our planet. HEIL HITLER! lol
@exupipus I have put myself in your shoes and I would like to knock out the idiot who made up the mexica-movement, b/c its all lies. For one this is not your land. You are failing to mention your criminal act and ignorance. You ALL want to blame the White man for everything, and most of its not true. Your tribes had a lack of humanity going around to other tribes murdering them and using people as human sacrifices, and starting Cannobolism. Again this is NOT YOUR PLANET, either. Stop lying!
@MexicasRracists murdering, human sacrifices, Cannobolism. the Spanish historians to denigrate through our ancestors lie thereby minimizing their advances in science, education and especially in morality that was based within the framework of the philosophy of respect for everything that exists. The human sacrifices to the conquerors caused revulsion "And perhaps it does not cause repulsion of the Inquisition or more with their acts of faith?
@exupipus "murdering, human sacrifices, Cannobolism. the Spanish historians to denigrate through our ancestors lie thereby minimizing their advances in science, education and especially in morality that was based within the framework of the philosophy of respect for everything...?"Are you asking a question here or what are you trying to say?
HA HA HA a white man speaking of history, ALL YOUR FUCK UP HISTORY IS NOTHING BUT CRIMES ALL OVER THE WORLD, white will make up anything just to justify their crimes in our continent.
@99cacahuate First this isn't your continent, never has been, never was. Lets just make that clear. Unless you have proof. And in this day and age nobody has ever heard that brown people own this land, now you want to talk about making shit up. Your doing a pretty good job so far, but nobody is buying it. And no you fucking racists, Whites History is NOT all crimes, ya shit bag. However your people are making history with all of there crimes today. Why dont you mention about the Tribes crimes?
@MexicasRracists if your white that means that your great great parents came from europe or somewhere else you like it or not, i don't have time for people like you, your so pathetic with no brain.
@99cacahuate lol looser!!!! Nice come back but not good enough. You are the brainless fool and very much uneducated. You dont have time b/c you dont have alll your facts. You good to school like a good lil ignorant boy and when you come out will all the facts about history then you come debate with me, but then again you wouldnt have to b/c you'll be on the same truth and facts as I am. BTW you might want to add a lot more Greats to my parents' ancestory. We been here a loooooong time.
@99cacahuate Thank you my point exactly!!! Thank you for showing the world of what kind of people you are. What do I want to do about it? If you are willing to come to my neighhood, you will find out what I will do to you. But knowing you, you will bring 20 of your cousins/friends/vatos OR a weapon to fight 1 guy bc thats how much of mexicans are pussies, especially your brown ass that looking diarrhea coming out of a cow's ass. Fuck racists mexicans!!!!!
@MexicasRracists YEAH WE HATE WHITES, AND WE WILL NEVER STOP UNTIL ALL WHITES GO BACK WHERE THEY BELONG, YEAH THATS EUROPE, THERE ALL NAZIS LIKE YOU CAN DO THE HELL YOU WANT, BUT, BUT,BUT NOT IN OUR CONTINENT, YOU BETTER FUCKING GET IT BY NOW YOU PUNK ASS MOTHER FUCKER.
@99cacahuate Yes we know you do, And we hate you back, ya fucking racist piece of cow shit. You will NEVER get us back to Europe, WE are here to stay and ship you guys back to either mexico OR to Siberia and C. Africa where you originated from. Oh if you didnt know already, you are not indigenous to this continent. Nice try savage!!!
@MexicasRracists how are you going to call him a racist when your being racist right now saying that your going to ship us off to blah blah blah. bitch, you aint going to ship us back no where. we're here to stay!!!! and don't be so sure that you guys will never go back to europe.
@MexicasRracists same here we are not going nonwhere, this is our HOMELAND, YOU WILL CALL US HISPANICS-LATINOS-ILLIGALS-IMIGRANTS OR WHEREVER YOU WANT BUT ARE HERE TO STAY, NOW YOU WHAN IT BRING ON, AT LEATS IM READY I WILL GIVE MY LIFE FOR A CAUSE, NOBODY BUT NOBODY WILL DECIDE FOR ME, NO WHITE MAN WILL TELL ME WHAT TO DO. PLAIN AND SIMPLE, SO GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU COCK SUCKER.
@99cacahuate whites are the biggest criminals on EARTH. murders, rapists, mass genocide, ongoing physical and mental abuse, theft......most of the worst and horrible events that happened in world history, the whites have always been involved in them. SMH.
@MexicasRracists you are full of bullshit asshole!!!! you didn't learn none of that from us!!! you guys came here with your deranged way of thinking, murdered masses of people, raped the women, stole our land, and tried to destroy our culture. you didn't learn NONE of that from us, it was just you. all the biggest problems in the world now are because of you guys. look what you did. SMH.
Also during this time Caucasians from...SURE! JUST LIKE: Tthe initial press stampede declaring "Kennewick Man" to be "white," study of the genetic evidence shows something entirely different. But the conclusions also put a damper on claims of some scientists and pagan religious groups that Kennewick Man came from Europe"" The First Americans, Not Ancient White Migrations, Part 1 of 4: watch?v=NqMi9YDRlEI
It wasn't just one thousand Spaniards versus the entire Aztec empire. People seem to forget the 50,000 or so non Aztec natives that the Spaniards recruited to their side. Also, the Chinese invented gunpowder, not the Europeans.
p0rcelaing0d 3 weeks ago
@p0rcelaing0d
Man,Gunpowder could not decide wars at that time. Aztec people was defeated thanks for the Illnes they brought.
Cheers!
eduds6 6 days ago
The ceramic sling balls made me cringe more than any other of the weapons. Earthenware is sharp when it breaks, unbelievably sharp. Not to mention the weight and speed that that thing traveled. Couple that with the infection that would inset from thousands of tiny razor sharp bit of low fired clay embedded deep in the skin....... Not pleasant at all.
WireMan7620 1 month ago
putos españoles ni valientes ni muy inteligentes solo eran manipuladores a con venecia de ellos mismos contaron la istoria pero no escierto del todo solo la considencia de que los aztecas pensavan que era quesacothatl un dios y pensaron que el puto cortez era sino no la mentira no havian conquistao a los aztecas por que apezar de sus armas eran pocos no conocian el terreno y no uviera avido alianzas auque los pueblos vajo dominio nunca lo uvieran permitido ellos los aztecas por su ferozida en bt
luis5manuel 1 month ago
@Ixpatli What about white Americans? Are they mestizos as well as the other Americans? Since you said that Americans are mestizos.
dafranx 1 month ago
@dafranx genetically were all meztizos as very few ppl can claim true racial purity ;)
d00m0racl3 1 month ago
Spaniards didn't want that war. the other native peoples did. Cortez won because he knew how to manipulate the enemies of the Mexicas (real name of what we know as aztecs) politically.
33amra33 2 months ago
Ciertamente no querían la guerra quería el oro, su maldita codicia pudo mas y decidió ese genocida de Cortés quemarle los pies a Cuahutemoc estando vivo. @33amra33 Cuahutemoc nunca se quejó. Esos eran hombres decentes y valientes, y no los malditos rateros, asesinos, trinqueteros, y genocidas que en mala hora llegaron a esas tierras.
ACERTIXO2002 2 months ago
I like how in the beginning the spic is speaking the white man's language.
omegapoint777 2 months ago
Bartolomé de las Casas a según, cuidó y protegió a los indígenas, pero por otro lado ifamemente les metió a huevo su estúpida religión y los sometió con palabras melosas para que le sirvieran de esclavos a sus paisanos y Bernal Díaz del Castillo fué un mitómano desalmado criminal junto con sus compañeros. Tanto peca el que mata a la vaca como el que le agarra la pata.
ACERTIXO2002 2 months ago
Ud escribió ésta barrabasada: Noxiuhcoatl The archaeological researches in the mayan lowlands (just for making my example), have revealed that most of the sacrificed individuals were sick and small, due to famine and poor higiene.Traducción:Las investigaciones arqueológicas en las tierras bajas mayas (sólo para hacer mi ejemplo), han revelado que la mayoría de los individuos sacrificados estaban enfermos y pequeños, debido a la hambruna y la higiene deficiente. ACERTIXO COMENTA. Ud lo dijo
ACERTIXO2002 2 months ago
@ACERTIXO2002 todos los americanos eran muy higienicos...
Liquit31 2 months ago
darles el nombre de americanos a los nativos me parece no es el nombre apropiado. @Liquit31 El Norte había varias tribus. En México los aztecas en el sur los Incas. Es un insulto que les digan americanos. Mañana voy a ir a Europa y los voy a Llamar Nahuatlacos. Me van a decir que estoy loco. Eso mismo les contesto a ellos.¿Como van a descubrir un continente que tenía una población de 80 millones de seres humanos? Es algo estúpido.
ACERTIXO2002 2 months ago
We must not forget the Aztecs were a brutal empire who made plenty of enemies amongst they're neighbors & the Spanyards were not nearly as horrible as the Aztecs. This is why they're neighbors allied them selves to the Spanyards!
crypter27 3 months ago
@crypter27 That not an historically accurate claim. The Aztecs deliberately continued a long standing Mesoamerican tradition of empire building and most of the practices Europeans consider to be brutal were, in actuality, practiced all over the region. The Spaniards won allies through fear - by burning entire villages, destroying sacred idols, and waging a more savage and destructive form of warfare than what was familiar to the Natives.
AdrianAnansi 2 months ago
@AdrianAnansi Do you have any historical facts to back that up?
crypter27 2 months ago
@crypter27 I concur with Crypter here. It's documented fact that other native peoples (most notably the Tlaxcalans, who've been demonized in Mexican culture ever since), willingly joined forces with the Spaniards because they hated the Aztecs. The Tlaxcalans, whom the Aztecs never conquered, wanted to finish them off once and for all, and the Aztec's subjects were tired of having their sons & daughters seized for the slaughter. Claims that they were forced are pure, revisionist bullshit.
Tizmaole 2 months ago
@Tizmaole So true,some times the Aztecs sacrificed whole families & this is a level of brutality that not even the spanierds would even think of doing because of they're Catholic belief's. Sure they'd conqur foreghn lands & probably would put enemies in an exicution device known as gerret,but most resistance came from men or warrior armies or men. Women & children were offlimits,the Spanyierds did most of they're killing in battle & those who converted were spared subjegation.
crypter27 2 months ago
@crypter27 @Tizmaole Well, the Chilam Balam, Bartolomé de las Casas, the annonymous manuscript from Tlatelolco and the oral tradition and lore of many indigenous groups, at least in Mexico, refer these mater a bit different. The Chilam Balam of Chumayel, e.g., says that the spaniards stole the mayan's "flowers" (a metaphor refering their daughters and young women) to nurture their own (to grow their numbers, by mating with them, usually by force).
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago
@Noxiuhcoatl Thats allot less worse then sacrificing them.
crypter27 2 months ago
@crypter27 Tell that to the mesoamerican people. The archaeological researches in the mayan lowlands (just for making my example), have revealed that most of the sacrificed individuals were sick and small, due to famine and poor higiene. The most accepted interpretacion is that those individuals were orphans or homeless; the exceptions were the well-nurtured male adults with strong phisique: the captured warriors and lords.
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago
¡ Oí nomas! Ahora resulta que sacrificaban a los pequeños y pobres y con pobre higiene. ¿Que le pasa? y cita al imbécil de Bartolomé de las Casas un mitómano rodeado de asesinos, ambiciosos y genocidas, que mataban todo lo que encontraban a su paso para robarles, humillarlos y abusarlos. @Noxiuhcoatl Eso son los cadáveres que han encontrado los estúpidos arqueólogos. Gente que fué sacrificada en aras de la religión Católica. Nada que ver con los mayas.
ACERTIXO2002 2 months ago
@ACERTIXO2002 ¿Habla usted del Bartolomé de las Casas que litigó por años para que se reconociese la dignidad del hombre indio? ¿Del mismo que dio la pauta para que apareciera la llamada "Leyenda Negra" a la que usted tan bien se apega? Porque si es así, amigo mío, lamento informarle que se está mordiendo su propia cola.
Y, por cierto, aclaro (porque parece que no leyó bien lo que escribí): sacrificaban a guerreros jóvenes y a huérfanos y mendigos. Punto.
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago
@crypter27 They prefered to sacrifice those who were not necessarily living a "happy" life. This doesn't contradicts the mexi'ca' version of the story (neither it confirmes it), but it certainly lights a probably "Leyenda Negra" built by the Tlaxcalteca' against the Triple alianza (especially the mexi'ca'). And no, i do not think about the tlaxcalteca' as traitors; they were fighting their enemy and that'a all.
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago
@crypter27 Let's not be too quick to praise the Spaniards: these are the same wonderful folks who gave us the Inquisition. But for all that, I've no doubt they were appalled by the high-capacity slaughter factory that the Aztecs ran. They would surely have judged it the work of Satan, and in stamping out the Aztec faith, THOUGHT they were doing Mexico a favor.
As for Noxy's crap below about the Maya (I've blocked him, BTW), it's irrelevant to the Aztecs. He's grasping at straws to insult us.
Tizmaole 2 months ago
Dude, is so sad you take an comparative argument as an insult. And it is not crap, is the history of millions of people. And, by the way, to express yourself using expressions as: "high-capacity slaughter factory", that, my friend, is true racism and exotism. Very sad, indeed.
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago
Technically, the Spanish didn't use their armored plates because of the hot temperatures and lack of maneuverability so they started wearing the cotton armor used by the Aztecs to shield themselves from arrows.
alexiaNBC 3 months ago
@alexiaNBC What they did, actually, was strip down to their "gambesons," the padding that they already wore underneath their armor. They didn't copy the Aztecs' design.
Tizmaole 3 months ago in playlist slinging
@Tizmaole AlexiaNBC is right, there were incidences where the Conquistadors did swap their armor for native ones.
AdrianAnansi 2 months ago
@AdrianAnansi I doubt that very much: why would they need to, when they already had something that would serve the same purpose?
Pure propaganda.
Tizmaole 2 months ago
@Tizmaole Simple: the native armors weren't as heavy, as cold and as fucking hot as the spaniards ones. Diferent environment=different necessities.
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago
@Noxiuhcoatl Not only are you wrong, but you're contradicting yourself! Armor can't be too hot AND too cold. And I just established that the padding under their armor WASN'T as hot as full plates. You're not even listening, are you? ;-)
Don't jump into threads without reading them first.
Tizmaole 2 months ago
@Tizmaole Cold when it is cold, hot under the full sun. No contradictions here. The mexi'ca's armors where ligther and well suited for combat in Mesoamerica, the padding under the spaniards armor wasn't. Why use a heavy and uncomftable "steel plate-felt" armor, when a lighter (and equally effective) version was available? A simple reason to choose the local technology. And no, i am not LISTENING to anyone who i'm READING (including myself).
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago 2
@Noxiuhcoatl Only contradictions, esp. since you don't know that the Mexican armor was more comfortable! You've probably never even heard of a gambeson before, much less worn one: you made up your mind in advance. Much like the Spaniards: they were opposed to adopting *any* native customs, on principle. (By the way, armor was *only* hot.)
"...i am not LISTENING to anyone who i'm READING (including myself)." - Can't argue, capitalize, or use proper grammar. Even your putdowns are incoherent!
Tizmaole 2 months ago
@Tizmaole I've never worn one, true, but do you know how they made the reinforced cotton armors? I, for myself, prefere cotton before felt or horse hair. :S
And no, they adopted many things: the habit of drinking chocolate, the local ingredients, a great amount of indigenous words, etc.
And, forgive my multiple mistakes, i do not usually employ english to communicate (not since i was twelve), i prefere mi mother language or the local ones.
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago
@Noxiuhcoatl I *have* worn gambesons, Renaissance clothing, and/or armor. I have worn this stuff on parade, marching with a 14-foot spear! I've worn it under exertion, in 100-degree sun AND in the rain. I helped Mom make a gambeson for a friend. So I can say there's a big difference in comfort between that, and plate armor. I can also say that any armor is hot, Spanish or Mexican.
Spain brought as they took back: pigs, horses, steel, diseases, the Church, DNA. Mexico is both, not just one.
Tizmaole 2 months ago
@Tizmaole And who said Mexico is not inheritor of Spanish values and culture? O.o I am just saying that the spaniards were not retarded, they used the things they wanted to use from the societies they found; for example: the armor (better suited for this climates and prepared for this style of warfare, cheaper, lighter, etc.). If my memory is right, Sahagún and De las Casas recorded this phenomenon.
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago
@Noxiuhcoatl I'll believe it when I read it, because I've shown that it makes no sense. And seemingly every Mexican denies their Spanish heritage, glamorizing the Aztecs, denying their Spanish ancestry, damning the Spaniards' memory, and literally screaming "Go back to Europe!" at every Anglo. Mexicans can be racist, too.
Besides, I have hard experience to base my position on; you're not even sure of your sources. That, you refuse to admit, stubbornly clinging to "facts" I've disproven.
Tizmaole 2 months ago
@Tizmaole Well, apparently you believe that the YouTube anti-spaniards-trolls are representative of Mexico as a whole. Alfonso Reyes, Enrique Krauze, Monsiváis, etc. All of them have written about the subject, all of them have appointed the relevance of the spanish culture in Mexico's own cultural reality. And, if I do not remember well my sources, that's because i have read a lot... :S Sahagún, Benavente, de las Casas, all the refered above these ones and more.
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago
@Tizmaole By the way, i do not agree with you completely, they did not brought as they took. They took far more good things than they brought, and they brought more bad things that they took. Many societies died here, one got richer there... An unfair deal, if someone asks the millions of indigenous survivors. :S
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago
@Noxiuhcoatl You don't agree with me AT ALL: you've made that perfectly clear from the outset. Moreover, you're arguing dishonestly, backhandedly implying that I'm a racist, which is a cowardly cheap shot.
Argue with honor, or not at all. We're done.
Tizmaole 2 months ago
@Tizmaole I, by no means, have called you a racist. In fact i must say you are one of the few individuals (including latins) who i ever met in YouTube, who can express themselves with a degree of objectivity about this issues. Please, do not missunderstand my previous replies, i wouldn't like to end this without a "handshake".
Noxiuhcoatl 2 months ago
@Tizmaole Go read Matthew Restalls "Seven Myths of the Spanish Conquest". It covers the armor and weapon issue to a great extent. And as for your propaganda comment, I have no idea what I would have to gain or what effect my statement would have beyond making a few Youtubers think...
AdrianAnansi 2 months ago
WTFF
AyeitsTiff 3 months ago
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ChampsElysees100 3 months ago
@Catachan1brainleaf Go to Spain, you'll find blue eyed, blond haired Spaniards there. Also among the upper classes in Mexico.
yerk3 4 months ago
How can they say that the superiority of the Spanish weapons "can't be bourne out" when they clearly show the Spanish sword destroying the Aztec sword on contact, and the musket shooting through the shield. The only Aztec weapon that worked against the Spanish armor was the sling, the obsidian swords and arrowheads shattered on contact.
yerk3 4 months ago
@yerk3
I think because, as said in the movie, most wounds and/or fatal blows the spaniards took were around the neck and the armor. Imagine an aztec warrior standing in front of you. You take the first attack. He dodges and makes a move, cutting of your arm (or worse your head). I don't the Spanish soldier would just carry on the fight. Even a blow with a blunt maquahuitl could knock someone down. Knowing some warrior strats, I don't think aztecs would have carried only one weapon.
shalis16 4 months ago
@shalis16 The Aztecs weren't familiar with the Spanish armor, the hits they got around the weak points in the armor were basically lucky. Despite leaving the neck, groin and armpits vulnerable to arrows, the Spanish armor protected the vital regions of the abdomen, the shoulder guards protected the shoulders and upper arms, the hip guards on the sides protected the hips and upper thighs and the flanges on the sides of the helmet protected the neck from downward blows with a sword.
yerk3 4 months ago
@yerk3
I think the aztec didn't knew about the armor at first. But they also thought that the Spanish soldiers and their horses were demigods. Later they realised that the conquistadors weren't demigods and could be killed. I think they learned about the armor too. But you're probably right about the shoulder (etc.) guards. Anyways, thanks for your comment =)
shalis16 4 months ago
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cobra87west 4 months ago
there are trees
with such dense wood
axes get stuck on them
that would be a disadvantage
on close combat
i miswrote it
tlanemaniMexica 5 months ago
tlanemaniMexica 5 months ago
@thebigs14 THANK YOU!!!! WHY THEY ALWAYS MAKE THE "AZTECS" LOOK WEAK BUT EVERYOTHER INDIGENOUS GROUP STRONG & UNBEATABLE... THE MEXICA NATION FELL TO GERMS & DISEASES THAT IS IT!!!! BUT U ALSO GOTTA THROW IN THEY WERE OUTNUMBERED BY SPANISH & TLAXCALAN & OTHER CONFEDERACIES ALSO!!! BUT WE BACK & WERE KICKING ASS AGAIN!!! MEXICA TIAHUI
TheFUTUREZHizTORY 6 months ago
the real reason of the conques were the infections and the enemys of the aztecs the tascaltecal , spanish army attack with 30.000 of this
Krmen80 6 months ago
terrible intro music
lokeradekadente81 6 months ago 19
I think its silly that so many people think that brown skinned mexicans are half spanish. Cortez came over with about 500 blonde and blued eyed europeans. The very term hispanic to me is silly. We don't called the Sioux or the Navajo Hisenglish. I think that this very silly. I am married to a beautiful Azteca and when I look at her I don't see a european even though her last name is spanish. The Spanish came over changed names and languages not blood. How are these people metizos?
wolfhammer2010 6 months ago
They forget horses in this documentary and also the shock from gunpowder. When a cannon fires you feel the shockwawe also it must have terified them. And another thing when the Spanish were conquering Tenochtitlan they had a huge army of indians helping them they were mostly enemys of aztecs.....
kolotiti 6 months ago
@kolotiti Definitely, the Spanish groups where way to small on their own to do the entire invasion. They also had another and less obvious weapon. Writing and printing allowed the second wave of invaders to be more successful then Cortes's initial. Pizarro had the advantage of knowing that capturing the Incan emperor would cause chaos in the Inca government and army.
MrBrent123t 3 months ago
I know it's politically incorrect to say, but the Spanish weapons and armor were far superior.
YksiSuomalainen 6 months ago
id rather have the spanish weapons. no offense to anyone of aztec ancestry but with a metal chest piece, a borgonet helmet, and a steel blade and a few pistols(they would carry many)..it seems id be better off with a force of more men armoured like me
mouthforwar17 6 months ago
taino indials from cuba and puerto rico are afros
Shilohmx1 6 months ago
@Shilohmx1 Um... no they're not. Unless you mean the modern descendants who have african admixture from all the blacks that were brought here by the Europeans.
xm377Moyocoyatzin 6 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin Taino indians and African black slaves mixed together = Cubans
Shilohmx1 6 months ago
@Shilohmx1 Yeah, I know... I thought that perhaps you were talking about that dumb crap Afrocentrics preach that Tainos were Black.
xm377Moyocoyatzin 6 months ago
stop calling the aztecs indians
jasim1996 6 months ago
Sling? thats a HONDA(not a car)
dxxa95 7 months ago
Isn't it strange how in all cultures and religions there's parallels? Look at the story of the flood, look a the story of Prometheus, look at stories of a Deity coming down to Earth and Promising to come back. Is it a coincidence?
venian646 7 months ago
@venian646 Look at Huitzilopochtli, who was born fully mature as a man and killed thousands of his brothers with a fire serpent. Or perhaps look at his mother, Coatlicue, who wore a skirt of serpents and whose head is formed by two facing serpents and has clawed feet and wears a necklace of human hearts and skulls. Look at the 4 previous worlds each destroyed by a Fire, Jaguars, a flood, and an earthquake. Yeah, LOTS of similarities.
xm377Moyocoyatzin 6 months ago
i love how theyre doing all that with no safety gear, including shattering obsidian right in their face.
otacon451 7 months ago
How is it possible that people in the Americas developed similar weapons, tactics, economy, beliefs, political systems to those of the "Old World" without ever having contact with them? by old world i mean Europe, Africa and Asia.
venian646 7 months ago
@venian646 i think they had already had contact
alesanarocksmexico 7 months ago
@alesanarocksmexico no im talking about before the spaniards arrived, before them there was no contact except maybe for the vikings but that was in canada, greenland.
venian646 7 months ago
@venian646 thats what i say , maybe there was another ship , the probabilities are so big that a ship got lost and ended up in the mexican territory , in so much time before the year 00 and 1400 ?
alesanarocksmexico 7 months ago
@venian646 What are you talking about? RESEARCH where votes and the judicial, executive, and legilative branch structure came from? Even the system of square street blocks... NATIVES! lol. Europe had monarchies, kings, queens, holy "bloodlines", and emporers, and curving non-sensical streets with pointy corners. Asia as well had emporers and Shoguns or any other names for feudal lords.
Machetazo1 7 months ago
WHATS THE NAME OF THE SONG IN THE, I REALLY LIKE IT CAN SOME TELL ME SO I CAN LISEN IT TO IT ALL
RandomRecollection 7 months ago
@RandomRecollection I know right? I thought the same thing! I thought they'd include it int the info/credits. I'll research it and let you know.
Machetazo1 7 months ago
My parents and me where born in Guadalajara Mexico does than mean I have Aztec blood in me? If somebody can please answer me this because I would love to know more about my ancestors ..
TheLinkGreen 7 months ago
It was the other indian tribes that hated the blood thirsty aztecs the ones who tipped the balance, cause they all banded with the spanish, and they provided invaluable help in terms of intel, provisions, lodging, bases of operations, raw men power, and of course, warriors.
cuzcatlan36 8 months ago
Vivo los caballeros de Santiago Greatest knights in history
equal in weapons, superior in faith
"Y fue arrojado el gran dragón, la serpiente antigua que se llama diablo y Satanás, el cual engaña a todo el mundo. Fue arrojado a la tierra, y sus ángeles fueron arrojados junto con él" - Rev 12:9
Conquistador505 8 months ago
That intro song alone made me not want to watch the documentary.
Sorry but I came here for the Documentary not to listen to your sassy ass Hispanic rap gangsta bullshit.
RoyalDog214 8 months ago
Why the boring intro?
Hyland0r 8 months ago
nice vid dude, but your intro is too long, should be in the end instead
Dagsschiller 8 months ago
What show is this from? It seems to be a very interesting documentary.
1917cutlass 9 months ago
jajaja los indios con esas mierdas solo se descalabraban entre ellos son bien culos, los tomaban prisioneros para despues amarrarlos como un puerco de una pata y matarlo a palos para despues tragarselo ! eran canibales los monos chilangos asquerosos !
cabassos 9 months ago
Interesting!
magemaatikko 9 months ago
my history book pretty much say that the small pox wiped out all the fighters .. the Spanish had no one to fight ... the Spanish weapons had no effect - although when the Spanish where driven out of Aztec capitol the first time as they fled for their lives .. the spanish even ... themselves spoke highly of the Aztec swordsmanship as excellent.
goodfellow67216 9 months ago
@theephraimite Only after he defeated them, read Bernal Diaz. Corez was not welcomed with open arms, this was a dangerus place and all the people involved were dangerous on all sides. it's just a remarkable coincidence that Spain discovered the Americas the same time the Aztecs predicted a dangerous visitor (Quexelquatl) and at the same time that Spain had reached the pinnacle of European military (having just defeated the Swiss)
BigDummy23 9 months ago
im asian.....but i like aztec civilization.....coz 4 me they r the best civilization in age of empire 3
hafly89 9 months ago
intro was wayyyy too long and boring
doodthisguysawesome 10 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
shows how much this "experts" know, the aztec clubswords were made out of oak(not freaking plywood) which is hard enough to brake bones.
thebigs14 10 months ago
shows how much this "experts" know, the aztec clubswords were made out of oak(not freaking plywood) which is hard enough to brake bones.
thebigs14 10 months ago
the spanish cut the first wave of warriors (usually the Jaguar or the eagles) to pieces rather quickly and the rest ditched when they saw the elite going down in minutes.
Also the Aztec were fighting to capture prisoners, the Spanish fought to kill.
cipslim 10 months ago
@cipslim Well, that's more of a missunderstanding, the Mexica and their neighboring states (who shared most of their religious traditions) organized ritual battles called the "Flower Wars", the armies of the states which were taking part of the battle would fight until one got a preset number of prisoners (and "won"), the prisoners would be taken to be sacrificed throughout the following year. It, is presumable that in this type of warfare their priority would be capturing, but not in real war.
DerFeindr 9 months ago
i want a Macuahuitl
8Djose 10 months ago
Cortez didn't have any Indian allies when he first landed. Read Bernal Diaz. They also only had 13 muskets and 14 crossbows, 3 small cannon and about 20 heavy cavalry. The rest (about 500 men) were rotoleros, light infantry with swords and shields, and halberdiers. Smallpox was a very important factor, but there is not taking away from the fact that the Spanish were tough as nails. They had just driven the Moors out of Spain, and the conquered all over the world, not just in Mexico.
BigDummy23 10 months ago
@BigDummy23
Not that I advocate the conquest of mexico but you're right, the spaniards were some tuff mothafuckas, just like the aztecs. it was a clash of the toughest in the "old" world against the toughes in the "new". I give credit to the spaniards for not turning back even though they encountered an unknown enemy from which the only thing known was that it was fiercer than any encountered in amrica. and i give credit to the aztecs for having the balls to fight literally to the very end.
erikespinoza05 10 months ago
@BigDummy23 He didn't have Indian allies when he landed, but he did after he landed.
theephraimite 9 months ago
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TheFUTUREZHizTORY 10 months ago
how could the spanians win seing this it would be impossible
TheGOTH13 11 months ago
"gave the indians a consirable advantage" Indains? I though we were talking about Mexicas.
tecolote6969 11 months ago
The lady got it wrong. The maquehuitl is pronounced ma-kwee-tal.
Chorizo240 11 months ago
the spanish had no chanze of wining batle against the aztec... what conquer the impire was the disease the spanish had.
georgemrr 1 year ago
The name of the track in the beginning is Kalpulli- Ya Basta
killu19 1 year ago
It's nice to see that someone got the effectiveness of the sling right finally. As for the intro song in the beginning of the vid.. eat my cracker shit and die, m.f..
Snagglefratz 1 year ago
whose emcees that song in the beginning of the video?
Pownd 1 year ago
and how about the thousand of locals, anemies of the Mexicas (Aztecs) that join the spaniards,
kaizer4519 1 year ago
Tiros con honda!
WCdragoninja 1 year ago
@WCdragoninja esos si los noqueaban de una pedrada
tableoynadamas 1 year ago
BJColter (one word) say racist, look up on Youtube
BJColter 1 year ago
Mexica before it became America Aztlan the land of the Natives
puepue11 1 year ago
its funny how whites kill 95% of the Native Americans and then talk about how much American they are more than the so called Mexicans....
99cacahuate 1 year ago 3
@99cacahuate I'm a mix of Native and white and I agree. Last time I checked Mexico is closer to America than Europe is.
jmikejapan 1 year ago
@coco7010: its true the spanish had allies, most of which sided with the spanish in order to get out of paying tribute to the aztec empire. And whom were quick to turn against the spanish when they realized they had to pay tribute to the crown.
thebigs14 1 year ago
the best well known mexican weapon would be the bottom-smashed whiskey bottle
Lmfao785 1 year ago
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I must amend this inferior historical account with some irrefutable data. The Spanish had tens of thousands of indigenous allies like the Tlaxcalans. The Tlaxcalans were rewarded by the Spanish for their loyalty and viciousness against the Aztecs. UNfortunately they were wiped out by smallpox in the 1560's.
You can visit Tlaxcala today. It is a charming city near Puebla.
coco7010 1 year ago 8
@coco7010 I agree, a lot of historical sources give too much credit to the Spanish and barely mention the thousands of warriors supplied by places such as Tlaxcala and Cholula, they only mention the natives as baggage porters etc
canigetanoorah 11 months ago
@coco7010 By wiped out are you referring that they where all exterminated completely? because that was not the case, although the Spanish diseases did kill most of the population there was a 10% of that population that survived, 10% would equal a million to a million and a half. The native population reached its lowest number by the mid 17th century when there where anywhere from 1 to 1.5 million, from here and on the native population started recovering.
tlilcuauhtli 8 months ago 8
@coco7010 The native population develop its immunity against the Spanish diseases, like all populations after years the body become used to the diseases and became more immune to them. By the Mexican Independence in 1821 there where now more than 3,600,000 Amerindians, which made more than 60% of the total population. So its not true when they say that all the Amerindians died out, in other countries like the USA yes, but its not the case for every other American country.
tlilcuauhtli 8 months ago 14
@tlilcuauhtli I was referring to the Tlaxcallans who were mostly wiped out by smallpox in the late 16th century.
My phrase, "Wiped out," is hyperbole. Obviously some people survived. I did not suggest that all people with an iota of Tlaxcallan blood have been killed.
coco7010 8 months ago
@coco7010 There is no "Tlaxcallan blood" just like there is no "Aztec blood" or "Roman blood", the tlaxcaltecs much like the Mexicas where an empire, only much smaller. They where not a separate race.
tlilcuauhtli 8 months ago
@tlilcuauhtli You are being overly pedantic. If you want to really get technical, there is no such thing as a, "race," only differing phenotypic tendencies among various hominid populations manifested through 10,000's of years of environmental pressures and genetic drift.
"Race" cannot be scientifically defined without an overwhelming amount of exceptions diluting the definition thus rendering it useless and unscientific. It's a good definition for racists and politicians, however. :-)
coco7010 8 months ago
@coco7010 You where the one that brought the "blood" difference, not me.
tlilcuauhtli 8 months ago
@tlilcuauhtli "Blood" in ethnic conversations is usually used as a metaphor. YOu know this. To say I have Mexican blood is a metaphor to describe a combination of social/cultural/historical- and genetic tendencies and phenomenon. It does not ACTUALLY mean that I have the same blood as Diego Rivera or Octavio Paz or Jose Jose.
There are only FOUR types of human blood in the world. A, B, AB and O. The rest is metaphor. Are we actually arguing about something?
coco7010 8 months ago
@coco7010 Its very complicated when there is talk about this subject. I know that there is no different "human races" we are all the same human race, and all those blood types are really shared by all people around the world.
tlilcuauhtli 8 months ago
@tlilcuauhtli Si. Hay solamente una raza.
Buenas noches compañero.
coco7010 8 months ago
@tlilcuauhtli Well "america" took the cake for demographic intolerance and obsessive genocide...which would explain clear as day its patriotic socio-political movements and legislative agendas being more fervent against other races today in comparison with its canadian and mexican neighbors...
Machetazo1 7 months ago
@Machetazo1 I dont know about Canada? and certainly comparing it with Mexico is rediculous. The evarage mexican is amerindian racially, and or predomantly amerindian.You would easly tell the difference between an average mexican (Not the ones shown in tv) and average canadian. Other countries like Argentina are predomantly european, but even they have some sort of amerindian ancestry,
tlilcuauhtli 7 months ago
observatorios, sistemas numéricos, sistemas de cultivos (chinampas), arquitectura.. no les digan a los mexicas que son la verga, capaz q se lo creen
atemahawerid 1 year ago
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kikimaji@ of course the aztec would lose to the moror warrior, the aztec ealge warrior sucks. so its official the aztec will lose again in season 3
copypacercopypacer 1 year ago
....how exactly was that an even effectiveness at close range???????
fallendmr 1 year ago
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I love it. Some brown mexican nigger singing to the white man “we don’t want your money.” Yeah, that’s why you mexicans scramble north like roaches and take all the money you can get. Worthless parasites.
TulliusVII 1 year ago
@TulliusVII brown mexican nigger? you sir are an uneducated white black asshole... wtf?
ThexHeartbreakxKid 1 year ago
Mecicas, saying someone invented cannibalism is like saying someone invented war. 1. You don't know the first person or culture to resort to a desperate base instinct, or to turn it into religious nonsense. 2. It doesn't matter who was first, if other cultures arrived at it independently. Some things happen just because people are desperate or because brutality is an innate human characteristic. 3. Lumping all "Indians" together in time, race, culture and culpability is breathtakingly stupid.
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aleatharhea 1 year ago
@MexicasRracists cannobolism..These fantasies, exaggerations true product of sick minds were used to try to lessen the guilt genocidal conquerors and commissioners. The painful tribulations suffered by the Aztec population during the siege have tried to ignore them.
exupipus 1 year ago
@exupipus Again cannobolism was invented by the Indians, these are not fantasies or exaggerations. There are proven facts that these have occured. It is obvious you need to go to the library and read up.
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
Cortes aware that some people were able to go out at night to fetch wood and roots and herbs to eat, according to Gomara records, his "hero" made a great slaughter of them, "as the most were women and children and unarmed men were almost .
exupipus 1 year ago
@exupipus according to several historians, Cortes was attacked by the Aztecs and the Aztecas almost had a monopoly on all of the "Mexican" "Indian" Tribes in mexico and worked there way up to South Texas where they were stopped by Europeans. Some American "Indians" Natives were murdered and defeated by the mexican Indian Tribes. Its even told that the American Indians were happy and joyful that the Europeans stepped in and helped them defeat the Aztecas.
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
And he says the same Gomara that after the defeat, the Spanish "walking through the city found piles of dead bodies in the houses, streets and water. If the Mexicans had been cannibals had not suffered from hunger during the siege. "The Myth of cannibalism. W. Arens."
exupipus 1 year ago
@exupipus Whos talking about mexicans being Cannibalists? I said the "Indians"
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
Taima Taima, an oil field site in northern Venezuela, fragmentary tools were found with cut mastodon bones 41,000 to 12,000 B.P *Pedra Furada investigators found stone tools and charcoal hearths at the earliest levels, and radiocarbon dates suggested the site might have been occupied as early as 40,000 – 50,000 years B.C. In the Andes highlands of Peru, early work had uncovered possible big-game kill sites dating to as early as 20,000 years ago, etc. The white race does not exist at this time!
exupipus 1 year ago
@exupipus The White race does exist during this time. Do you know the difference bewteen Caveman and Neanderthals? They existed since that time. During the 40,000-50,000 B.C. some Europeans built a boat and sailed across the Artic and settled in Virgina State as we know it today. Boat remains and folsals gave been found and scientists have comfired artifacts (aka, utinsils and pottery) oh they just recently viewed this on the NetGeo channel in case you might not make it to the library.
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
You need to look at us as the victims of your people's ongoing criminal racist greed---and past barbaric criminal actions. You need to look at us realistically, not as some remnants of some almost extinct animals that you have caged in a zoo (that you call a ghetto or a reservation) for the amusement of your people.
exupipus 1 year ago
@exupipus I dont look at you guys as innocent victims b/c your not. First non of your people today lived in the past, only heard stories or lies. Your people have murdered people, took land from people, and raped and beat people as well. However I dont look at you people as extinct animals. I look at you guys as humans with the same type of sinful background like any other human being living or nonliving. Since the beginning of time it has ALWAYS been in our human nature conquest and conquer.
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
You need to put yourselves in our shoes to see our people's losses of the wealth of our land, and your missing guilt, and your ignorance of how you profit from the crimes of your ancestors, and your people's lack of humanity in all of this monstrous history.
And this isn't just in Anahuac that your people have done this. Your people did this in Hawaii, the Philippines, Alaska, etc...and everywhere else that your race has gone on our planet. HEIL HITLER! lol
exupipus 1 year ago
@exupipus I have put myself in your shoes and I would like to knock out the idiot who made up the mexica-movement, b/c its all lies. For one this is not your land. You are failing to mention your criminal act and ignorance. You ALL want to blame the White man for everything, and most of its not true. Your tribes had a lack of humanity going around to other tribes murdering them and using people as human sacrifices, and starting Cannobolism. Again this is NOT YOUR PLANET, either. Stop lying!
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
@MexicasRracists murdering, human sacrifices, Cannobolism. the Spanish historians to denigrate through our ancestors lie thereby minimizing their advances in science, education and especially in morality that was based within the framework of the philosophy of respect for everything that exists. The human sacrifices to the conquerors caused revulsion "And perhaps it does not cause repulsion of the Inquisition or more with their acts of faith?
exupipus 1 year ago
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@exupipus "murdering, human sacrifices, Cannobolism. the Spanish historians to denigrate through our ancestors lie thereby minimizing their advances in science, education and especially in morality that was based within the framework of the philosophy of respect for everything...?"Are you asking a question here or what are you trying to say?
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
HA HA HA a white man speaking of history, ALL YOUR FUCK UP HISTORY IS NOTHING BUT CRIMES ALL OVER THE WORLD, white will make up anything just to justify their crimes in our continent.
99cacahuate 1 year ago
@99cacahuate First this isn't your continent, never has been, never was. Lets just make that clear. Unless you have proof. And in this day and age nobody has ever heard that brown people own this land, now you want to talk about making shit up. Your doing a pretty good job so far, but nobody is buying it. And no you fucking racists, Whites History is NOT all crimes, ya shit bag. However your people are making history with all of there crimes today. Why dont you mention about the Tribes crimes?
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
@MexicasRracists if your white that means that your great great parents came from europe or somewhere else you like it or not, i don't have time for people like you, your so pathetic with no brain.
99cacahuate 1 year ago
@99cacahuate lol looser!!!! Nice come back but not good enough. You are the brainless fool and very much uneducated. You dont have time b/c you dont have alll your facts. You good to school like a good lil ignorant boy and when you come out will all the facts about history then you come debate with me, but then again you wouldnt have to b/c you'll be on the same truth and facts as I am. BTW you might want to add a lot more Greats to my parents' ancestory. We been here a loooooong time.
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
@MexicasRracists yes we mexicans are racists , FUCK EUROPEANS IMMIGRANTS, NOW WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? SUCK MY BROWN COCK??????
99cacahuate 1 year ago
@99cacahuate Thank you my point exactly!!! Thank you for showing the world of what kind of people you are. What do I want to do about it? If you are willing to come to my neighhood, you will find out what I will do to you. But knowing you, you will bring 20 of your cousins/friends/vatos OR a weapon to fight 1 guy bc thats how much of mexicans are pussies, especially your brown ass that looking diarrhea coming out of a cow's ass. Fuck racists mexicans!!!!!
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
@MexicasRracists YEAH WE HATE WHITES, AND WE WILL NEVER STOP UNTIL ALL WHITES GO BACK WHERE THEY BELONG, YEAH THATS EUROPE, THERE ALL NAZIS LIKE YOU CAN DO THE HELL YOU WANT, BUT, BUT,BUT NOT IN OUR CONTINENT, YOU BETTER FUCKING GET IT BY NOW YOU PUNK ASS MOTHER FUCKER.
99cacahuate 1 year ago
@99cacahuate Yes we know you do, And we hate you back, ya fucking racist piece of cow shit. You will NEVER get us back to Europe, WE are here to stay and ship you guys back to either mexico OR to Siberia and C. Africa where you originated from. Oh if you didnt know already, you are not indigenous to this continent. Nice try savage!!!
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
@MexicasRracists how are you going to call him a racist when your being racist right now saying that your going to ship us off to blah blah blah. bitch, you aint going to ship us back no where. we're here to stay!!!! and don't be so sure that you guys will never go back to europe.
GAGAMANIA2000 1 year ago
@MexicasRracists same here we are not going nonwhere, this is our HOMELAND, YOU WILL CALL US HISPANICS-LATINOS-ILLIGALS-IMIGRANTS OR WHEREVER YOU WANT BUT ARE HERE TO STAY, NOW YOU WHAN IT BRING ON, AT LEATS IM READY I WILL GIVE MY LIFE FOR A CAUSE, NOBODY BUT NOBODY WILL DECIDE FOR ME, NO WHITE MAN WILL TELL ME WHAT TO DO. PLAIN AND SIMPLE, SO GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU COCK SUCKER.
99cacahuate 1 year ago
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@99cacahuate I agree, we should deport racist assholes to Antarctica
angryblack714 1 year ago 10
@99cacahuate whites are the biggest criminals on EARTH. murders, rapists, mass genocide, ongoing physical and mental abuse, theft......most of the worst and horrible events that happened in world history, the whites have always been involved in them. SMH.
GAGAMANIA2000 1 year ago
@GAGAMANIA2000 We learn from the best, You guys!!! lol
MexicasRracists 1 year ago
@MexicasRracists you are full of bullshit asshole!!!! you didn't learn none of that from us!!! you guys came here with your deranged way of thinking, murdered masses of people, raped the women, stole our land, and tried to destroy our culture. you didn't learn NONE of that from us, it was just you. all the biggest problems in the world now are because of you guys. look what you did. SMH.
GAGAMANIA2000 1 year ago
Also during this time Caucasians from...SURE! JUST LIKE: Tthe initial press stampede declaring "Kennewick Man" to be "white," study of the genetic evidence shows something entirely different. But the conclusions also put a damper on claims of some scientists and pagan religious groups that Kennewick Man came from Europe"" The First Americans, Not Ancient White Migrations, Part 1 of 4: watch?v=NqMi9YDRlEI
exupipus 1 year ago