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  • New Jersey in the house ..!!!

  • LOL @ BJ Penn haters

  • i fucking hate it when people hate on bj! bj penn is the best fighter in mma history period! even anderson silva, wanderlei silva all the high profiled fighters will agree that bj penn is a TRUE FIGHTER. not like gsp or edgar. when bj's in the ring he brings it. edgar runs around trying to impress the judges like gsp. i gotta say ufcs best days were 4rm ufc 36 to ufc 107.all the fighters now a days are scared to take a ass whooping. chuck, rampage, silva, couture, henderson and franklin.

  • @themack509 Lol

  • @themack509 - Wrong! The sport just evolved, fighters just got better "technically", and are now learning more, using their skills to the best of their advantage, I like watching guys duke it out too, BUT what's wrong with the "hit and not be hit" mindset? You'd call Edgar's fights "boring"? He can fight, has a heart of a lion and is extremely skilled, it's not always about standing and trading shots to see how goes down first, it's about being good and winning.

  • sorry edgar u won round 4 and 5 hands down. i watched this fight like 30 times. bj landed solid shots. and was controliing the octagon for round 1 threw 3. so honestly bj won the 1st fight. but edgar did win the 2nd. t hats 4 sure.

  • @MrTwat444 so? this shit is a real sport not the fucking WWE. grow up before iron mike came along all fighters came to win by points until they found the oppurtunity to KO.

  • james tony is the comedic relief at the end of this video lmfao that guy never gets old.

  • I dont care what Penn says. he did more backpeddling in Abu Dabbi than an NFL cornerback. Dude was overtalented for Edgar but was grossly underprepared.

  • Okay, a lot of folks say Penn is a bad sport. . . . and he is in a way.

    He doesn't like losing. He doesn't accept losing. He hates losing more than most people.

    I like the guy and understand his attitude.

  • @waddyprocess Same here man, i totally understand that.

  • Why is he a poor sport? Frankie ran for 5 rounds. Anyone watching the fight can easily see that Frankie didn't come to win the fight, but to impress the judges. I'm sorry it's obvious. BJ screwed up in the second fight. It kind of reminded me of the Sunny Liston and Ali fight. Liston simply just got discouraged after a while due the constant movements my Ali.

  • @130kali that why there is a pre determined confiment (octagon, ring) in combat sports. There is nothing wrong with using the entire floor. Its called fucking strategey read a book.

  • @curtmastor

    Read my post clearer and you will see that I likened them to Muhammad Ali and Sunni Liston. I understand game plans and strategies. I also understand that it worked better in the 2nd fight then the 1st. In the 1st fight he clearly ran without an attempting to try to win the fight. In the 2nd he did more. I know my stuff. I have 18 years of experience in the martial arts. I don't have to read anymore books, I create them.

  • @MrTwat444 are u retarded? edgar fought twicee and messed him up

  • Bj penn waz the best when the dinosaurz roamed the earth XD hiz time is long gone

  • hey the 4 dislikes r the real sore loser's >>>>like who the heck would fight in the ufc an not have a attitude,ther for bj penn isnt a loser he is a winner no matter what.like who the f likes to lose what you guys never had a defeat in your life well well rude awakening its a bitch.

  • bj lost he should stop bitching about it!

  • bj penn is amazing D:

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  • Why yall niggas tryna hate on B.J Penn,dat nigga's the best lightweight champ dat the ufc has ever seen. he can say whatever he wants cuz hes that good and hes a future hall of famer.get of his nuts

  • after all james toney's shit talk about going beating couture....he got his ass choked out :D

  • @666hellraiser1 yeah James Tony had no idea what he was doing. He isn't even all that great of a boxer. I think the UFC should've gotten a better boxer to fight and one that was in better shape....

  • Blow Job Penn

  • BJ is such a cocky little douche. Typical spoiled rich kid...

  • This vid reminded how big of a bitch BJ is.

  • @dillestman, his name in Jon Jones

  • Why are you guys hating on bj penn. I mean i agree that edgar didnt recieve the credit he deserved but bj is the best lightweight ever. And the first fight could have gone either way in my opinion.

  • its really annoying how bj penn complains and gives excuses every time he loses a fight like the first fight with st.pierre oh he is greasing then when he lost to matt hughes oh i wasnt in good shape then when he lost to frankie edgar the first time oh i was battling a sinus infection and was on anti-biotics bj should just accept the fact that he got his ass handed to him by frankie edgar in the first and second fight

  • well that "joke" beat you twice BJ..

  • BJ needs to strengthen his WRESTLING.

  • you guys talking shit on youtube, thats making your self look like bitches.

  • @Dillestman Spam? 

  • @Rodriguer2000 how is that spam voicing my favorite fighters and saying "what if" dumbass?

  • @Dillestman It's spam because people marked your comment as spam.

  • @Rodriguer2000 wtf?? That's bullshit! Who marked my comment as spam?? People liked it big on another video.

  • FUCKEN BJ IS HE LEGEND BUT DAMN HE'S A BITCH WHEN ITS COMES TO LOSING!!!

  • @uaskdej All He does is makes excuses.

    He cant fucking man up and say " Hey I lost, Home boy was the better fighter "

    My Pop's always said " It takes an ass beating to give an ass beating ".

  • @uaskdej fuck off

  • frankie edgar your the man

  • I don't get why ppl hate on Frankie Edgar. Edgar's a 5'6 natural 145 pounder and he's going in there out boxing world class lightweights like BJ fuckin Penn. You have to root for a guy like Frankie he'll always be the underdog, and in my opinion he has the best boxing in the Lightweight Division and some of the best in MMA. And I have to say hands down he's the best at changing levels from stand up to takedowns in MMA, Nobody takes BJ down like that except St. Pierre

  • Frankie Edgar isnt gonna win gray maynard

  • penn is class, but i dont know why he said edgar's corner tried stealing the fight by picking him up. at the end of the fight he knew he'd lost the fight.

  • @frain86 I actually think BJ PENN meant what he said

  • Damn. Tony ugly mufacka

  • B.J Penn is never a good sport.

  • @twistedstrength fuck off

  • @twistedstrength hes such a crybaby. he got out fought plain and simple. hes still stuck in this old MMA world were knockout strikes, flaring takedowns and brilliant counters win fights. shit is so technical now and guys like edgar are the future. look at the highlights frankie had so many clean kickboxing combos followed by quick chutes. In this sport when you out stragetize and execute and make your opponent (penn) look like hes always on the defensive you should win a decision.

  • hey princess ima getchu

  • the only thing i have against edgar is he cant finish a fight

  • edgar needs to finish a fight

  • AND THEN BJ GOT TREATED LIKE A BITCH IN THE 2ND FIGHT HAHAHA HE GOT HIS ASS WHOOPED ALLLLL 5 ROUNDS HE RIPPED THIS GUYS PRIDE IN HALF..

  • you right bj penn Edgar steal the victory becose i beginning dance after the fight , i thing you fight to much , and you receive a severe brain injury , i think that happen in your second fight whit GSP ,,,,

  • @dukeleto24 sounds like you got a severe brain injury...

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  • funny how bj has an excuse every single time he loses like the first fight against gsp oh he greased then the second fight against hughes oh my cardio wasn't good then frankie edgar oh i was battling sinus infections and was on anti-biotics well what was his excuse for getting dominnated in the second fight i mean i like bj and frankie pretty equally but the fact is bj got dominated the 2nd fight with frankie edgar

  • i like bj but theres no excuse for his second lost he should have been very motivated that time

  • fuck you haters .....Bj fo life

  • @ToyotaTureno add a penn to the end of "Bj" and you have a straight comment

  • BJ Penn was and still is the greatest light weight in mma history much respect to Frankie for not being afraid of the at the time unbeatable BJ Penn

  • youtube.com/watch?v=6x5G8aMuRG­Q

  • bj penn is a dooch,, he lost twice and he still hates.. frankie is the man people can hate as much as they want..

  • bj penn doesn't do well when he loses focus, he loses focus when he's pissed off and he's similar to tyson in that he feeds off of his opponents intimidation, when his opponent is not slightly nervous he doesn't do as well. I dont think edgar is the more skilled fighter i just think bj didnt work that hard, his takedown defense was that dance he does on one leg, and edgar got control of his hips and boom, but bj has defended stronger takedowns before, it hurt to see him lose that fight :(

  • bj penn needs to stop ONLY using his powerful jabs and punches, he needs to learn how to mix up his jabs with some takedowns, legkicks more often now and he kinda need to work on his stamina and his speed.

  • @BoyDanny93 he also needs to learn footwork and movement

  • damn Edgar made Penn look like a heavyweight.

  • i guess BJ could of tried takedowns at the beginning but he was too busy getting taken down

  • Fuck bj penn, always has stupid excuses for his losses.

  • Bj penn is stupid, given he already fought him once you think that he knew what to expect and change his game plan but no, he did the same shit. that's stupid. he could've easily defeated the smaller, weaker guy with takedowns but he didn't even attempt it until the 3rd or 4th round when he's weak already. and leg kicks constantly would've suffice but no. knockout is the only thing he's thinkin' which we all know it cn't be done from the first fight. overrated fool.

  • funny how bj talks so much shit in the prelude to the fight yet frankie edgar dominated him for the full 5 rounds

  • Even BJ Penn is my favorite lightweight fighter, but Edgar made him look like an heavyweight in the fight.

  • Fuck frankie str8 up he dont got shit other than being a squirmy rat. Bj still got talent

  • @Boost717 SQUIRMY RAT IS WAT GETS HIM TO WIN AND TREAT BJ LIKE A BITCH ALL 5 ROUNDS IN THE 2ND FIGHT

  • @RENEIND

    u sound like a squirmy rat bitch too. hmmmm U guys family?

  • @Boost717 SOUNDS LIKE I HIT A NERVE IN A BJ PENN FAN ONE WHO CANT ADMIT DEFEAT

  • @RENEIND

    He lost. I don't really like BJ that much anymore but all i was tryna say is that Frankie is a little bitch.

  • @Boost717 frankie would knock u the fuck out u goof hater!!

  • @HeshTatu

    Set this shit up nigger anytime anywhere

  • frankies not a fighter, he is a round winner. boring ass fuck. dances around and taps people every once and a while. fuck this fool

  • @devotbe whats it like being a friendless virgin?

  • @AlbieGfromMyspace better than being a dick taker. but some people pride themselves on their dick taking ability, obviously your one of them. faggot

  • @devotbe haha to be a fighter you dont have to knock people out and put on shows frankie is great to watch if you ask me + hes one of the best in the world you know nothing about mma m8 clear off and go watch some wwe you prick

  • Penn in no way is a "knockout king"

  • ahahahaha! Penn lost again after he talked all that crap. I wouldent mind him if he didnt complain so much, accuse other fighters of cheating, saying other fighters stole a victory. Dude needs to learn to take a loss. I know the 1st Edgar vs Penn match was controversial, but what really annoyed me was how he called GSP a cheater. i mean come on, its always the other guy "cheating" somehow.... Penn just cant handle losing.

  • @mattwg2009 did u even see the GSP vs Penn fight? of course he called GSP a cheater, the referee said that he cheated, at least 5 times, he won cause he punched him in the back of his head! and thats cheat in the UFC!

  • @eemmiill201 ive seen highlights and all the stuff that called gsp a cheater, AND i know that it even went before a commitee to see if GSP cheated, and everybody said he didnt. not to mention, penn never said anything about getting hit in the back of the head. he said gsp was using vasoline on his whole body, which he wasnt. my point is Penn is the biggest winer in the sport. If he didnt complain every time he lost, id like him. unbelieveable fighter, he just annoys me when he talks

  • @mattwg2009 but the referee said many times: Dont grab his pants, thats cheat! Dont hit him in the head that's cheat!

  • @eemmiill201 im not talkin about that, and yeah, that is cheat. im talking about the whole vasoline thing. it was bullcrap, penn finds a scapegoat every time

  • God I hate bj Penn he's such a fucking bitch he says he goes into finish guys wen his last couple of fights he just throws a jab and backs up and waits for the judges to come in and say he won and that's why GSP shit on him

  • Penn is a first rate jerk and the world is becomming more and more aware of it daily. I loved what GSP done to him and still he mouthed that big mouth off claiming cheating and all of that, what a goof...

  • man i hope frankie vs gray the layin and praying maynard card is stacked

    cuz im not paying 2 c a wrestling match that i no will go 2 a ud an i hope this

    fight aint the 1 in pa cuz i live only 2 hr from pittsburgh an i plan on going i really

    hope the 1 in pa is silvia i no ill get my moneys worth there sum 1 will b getin a

    brutal ko if frankie an gray actually did work on the ground i wouldnt mind but

    they lnp like most or the wrestlers u 2 need 2 take lessons from cain n jones

    brock

  • You gotta give Edgar cridit before he beat BJ, BJ was known by all as the greatest lightweight ever. He wasnt scared at all he went in the octagon and faced a man everyone saw as UNBEATABLE at 155. Then after he beat BJ. To hear all of the threats BJ was making like "I dont even care about the belt I just want to hurt you" I mean you've seen what BJ has done to peopl, so to trust in yourself and face the king of the lightweight division again is UNREAL!!! Im a huge BJ PENN fan but props to Frank

  • How much you think BJ got paid to throw that fight? I hope its alot. 

  • @MsMarc1234 I also think alot of Randy Couture fights are rigged.

  • hahha all you guys talkin shit bout penn hed kick all your asses you edgar dick riders

  • once again bj didnt turn up not sure y he didnt take the match to the ground in round 1 that will show him no more rematches so he should go up a weight class

  • bj retire old faget

  • @roy2998 bj aint even old dumass an he still has a lot left

  • bj's just upset he can't grow a full head of hair

  • and he lost again mohahaha

  • Blow Job finally lost? HELL YEAH.

  • BJ is going to win.

  • Botton line: BJ cannot overcome Edgar's speed.

  • @ramrod20042000 He can if he Gsp s it and dry humps his way to a win

  • FRANKIE IS THE BEST IN THE LIGHTWEIGHT DIVISION HANDS DOWN!!!

  • @X0INFINITYX0 WRONG! THE BULLY IS THE BEST LIGHT WEIGHT

  • everyone spam BJ Penn's facebook and twitter to tell him to move up to WW.

  • @phenomenom20 WWE*

  • EDGAR the champio, it's a joke !!! this guy is just running away from his opponent, his style is rubish !!! BJPENN is a real champion who act as a champion on the octogon, not like edgar who hit& run away, hit &run away and win the fight by decision, this is bull shit !!!!

  • @siroko31 sound alot like lyoto

  • @superwhiteboy619 yeah, but lyoto is strategy is to strike back, lookin for the opening to hit hard and seek the big punch to finish the fight... Edgar is strategy is only scoring and not to finish the fight, Lyoto is a high class fighter..I hope Gray Maynard will defeated edgar again.. and get the lightweight title..when you get the title by dessicion like edgar is not enough, remenber lyoto vs shogun who has to really show that is his above lyoto, GSP above matt huge, Lesnar vs Mir

  • @siroko31 dude,the maynard/edgar fight will most likely go to decision for whoever wins,how can you not enjoy frankies fights with bj though? picked him apart on every aspect of mma,took him down,when bj had a position he reversed it and standing up he wrecked bj,big time,also if you rewatch the end of the fight the last knee that is thrown wouldve helped finished bj had the fight not ended.either get used to decision victories or find a different sport.

  • @siroko31 then why didnt bj beat him!! edgar didnt run he took his ass down plenty of times and out struck him! bj has a hard head and never been knocked out!! so its not an easy task beating bj let alone knocking him out!!

  • @siroko31 hit and run IS a tactic.. but frankie outclassed bj. he even went toe to toe( if not better) with bj on the ground. bj to have the tinyiest chance to win needs to hold up his rythem for 25 min wich he cant, then he needs to match frankies speed wich he will never be able to. u maybe the strongest man in the world.. if u cant hit your opponent u will probrably lose

  • search for the youtube video: BJ PENN LOL

    IT SHOWS THE REASON WHY HE LOST

  • BJ you such a dick head. Ultimate fighting championship? YES he is! so stfu. Frankie Edgar is way better than you. He just put down the UFC by saying that. And you got fucked up. ASS HOLE. wow

  • Bj is a joke 

  • Edgar will soon be demolished by no other than Gray Maynard anyway. Enjoy your brief reigh, Frankie "the cannot finish the fight boring fighter" Edgar.

  • @MrWakarimashita good enough to beat penn's ass haha

  • FUCK YOU ALL BJ PENN ALL THE WAY BABY WHEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW­WWWWWWWW

  • I mentioned that Frankie would win again and everyone thought I was wrong. I like BJ, but his time has come to move on just Liddell, Faber, Mir, Hughes and many others. This is the hardest sport in the world to stay on top in.

  • @clearcombat eh hughes is on a 3 fight win streak! not too bad...i dont know if he'll be the champ again but he's gotta few left in him..but i know what u mean!

  • I think Frankie Edgar is the pound for pound best fighter in the world. He doesn't even cut down for lightweight and still beats guys way bigger than him

  • I'm not a Frankie Edgar fan but I am a BJ Penn hater. Ever since after his GSP accusations, I've been waiting for a LW to take his belt. The LW division doesn't need BJ Penn anymore. They've got Edgar, Maynard, Dunham, Sotiropoulos, Guida, Griffin, Lauzon, Escudero etc...

  • @Evilshadow651 frist off you should stop wachting MMA if you just said that lol BJ is the best lightweight of alll time lol so yeah you make no sense

  • @TEB055808 I didn't say he's not the best lightweight of all time. I think he is. Frank Edgar just beat him though so currently Edgar is the best in the world. Get that through your head. BJ said he had nothing bad to say. He knows he lost. And you keep saying Edgar didn't do much to beat BJ Penn. Tell that to 3 judges "50 - 45". Maybe Penn didn't do much to prove he's the best lightweight.

  • @Evilshadow651 uh you prove my point again lol you said the word judge's I said Freankie beat BJ but didnt beat him like a real champion would have won the fight. Let's go to some history of the champions in the UFC to win there belts. Matt Huges won his belt by KO' Matt sarre TKO' BJ submisson over joe stevenson to win the LW belt and frist tilte D was ageast Former Champ Sean Shark TKO' Anderson Sliva TKO' Brock Leaser TKO' and i can go on lol but lets see Freankie's DECSION not a real win.

  • @TEB055808 Well how long do you want UFC fights to last? 5 rounds without a finish, where does the fight go from there? Combat sports come with judges. I'll give it that BJ was good enough to not be finished like Dan Hardy pulled off against GSP. But nevertheless who do you think was winning that fight? After the fight BJ should have won? Back to my point, if BJ Penn really is the best of all time, why didn't HE finish Edgar? Because he's the best LW of all time he should win by default?

  • @Evilshadow651 YES RIGHT ON!! i agree with you...tebo55808 doesnt know anything!

  • @jessenielsen1 doesnt know anything? Well someone being someone bitch right now huh? lol plus you didnt even replay to my comment wow but i dont know anything lol

  • @jessenielsen162 He's just upset that BJ lost. I don't blame him. Sooner or later he's gotta accept the outcome and move on from this though.

  • @Evilshadow651 yeah its understable to be upset...but he makes it sound like edgar is a horrible fighter lol and he said he would fight edgar anyday LMAO

  • @Evilshadow651 Dude you didnt read my comments? lol Of crouse theres going to be Judges in combat sports but alot fighters really dont like leaveing it to the Judges Like alot of the UFC champions say a win is win but im not happy with my win with a DESCION. cuz your not fishishing the fight. And yeah I said EDGAR was WINNING but like his fighting record its not really all that great. WINS with alot of decison Like when he beat TYSON was really BS thats why alot ppl hate the junges

  • @TEB055808 You're not happy with the decision because you're not happy that BJ Penn lost. Simply as that. I got the same way when Hughes decisioned Serra. A unanimous decision is not always the most exciting way to win but nevertheless it's a win whether you're champion or challenger. Even in the case of a majority or split decision. Who walked out the champion that night? Definitely not the loser. And I said I wasn't a Frankie Edgar fan so I don't care about his previous wins. I just hate BJ =]

  • @Evilshadow651 Bro I know BJ lost lol i just said he lost but just dont like the fact that ppl think edgar good just cuz he won over BJ over a decsion win which is not that big of a deal. It was one of the biggest MMA upsets but all hes knowed for is speed nuthing really all wild about him lol Im also a Matt huges fan i didnt just grow up in Hawaii but South carolina as well so the courty boi i got his back as well lol freankie has no real wins gary maryd would be abetter champion then him

  • @TEB055808 Well I grow up in Long Island so I support Serra but the fight was a year ago and a decision wasn't the best way to end a grudge match but whatever. Hughes is the best WW of all time. I don't care about Edgar but I don't like Maynard so I'm hopeful for Edgar again. And you should at least be consistent with your preaching. Maynard has a higher percentage of decisions in his victories than Edgar plus recently winning back to back splits prior to Florian.

  • @Evilshadow651 Welll i dont Gary enither lol Im going for not only becaues BJ trained him in th TUF season 5 but they train togather befor that and he came down to Hawaii alot times but hes wreastler just like edgar thats why theres alot descions will of the time takedowns' takedowns but takedowns is okey but not when you do it so much ttimes and you win off of it. edager and gary are very smiler but the bully has better wrestleing.

  • @TEB055808 ever think about taking an english class?

  • @jessenielsen162 Ever think about learning any good come backs lol Plus this is YOUTUBE who gives a fuck how you write shit? lol dumbass

  • @TEB055808 wow dumbass? did u make that up all by yourself...you must be the king of comebacks haha

  • @jessenielsen162 Pretty much lol how did you guess? and why the hell you keep comeing back to this video for? keep saying the dumbest shit to me and it's really boring and gay . if you have something to say please talk about the fight lol becaues ppl dont wanna see these gay comments. like you ever think about takeing a english class? ha ha ha.... no lol that was pretty gay

  • @TEB055808 i just hadda say something cuz you spelled almost every single word wrong haha but yeah one day you'll except bj lost and that frankie is just an all around better figther...i understand liking your guy but u gotta wake up

  • @jessenielsen162 Okey cool lol

  • @jessenielsen162 i did..almost failed it 2..i was better at math

  • Frankie Edgar's cardio is beyond awesome. This guy is like a machine.

  • Damn, BJ!!! put down the damn bottle and you might can beat Frankie...lol. Damn!

  • hahah Penn comes off like a bitter little bitch, i'm glad he lost, he's a dickhead and his corner is pathetic

  • @SurgeCess why doesn't he get some real trainers, rather than those toad eaters he has around?

  • @SurgeCess hey, check out the UFC page, and see what he said after the fight, and u will see that he is not a dickhead!

  • @SurgeCess Is that why hes becomeing a hall of famer and hes a lengend? lol dumbshit

  • Edgar fights like a pusY! There is no GLORY in the way he got his W's. Just like what Shogun said - "I dont understand how people honor someone who just backs up all the time". Wheres the spectacular finish? I cant respect any fighter who wins 8 of his last 11 fights by leaving it to the judges. I love mma and thats not the mannerism that makes fan around the world say WOW. Its not simply about the W's, its about earning them W's in the most Glorious fashion possible.

  • Boring fighters like Edgar kill the sport. I want to see people fight not score points. A fighter should try to finish the fight not pull out a decision. But you see so many fighters so obsessed with getting the W that they don't take any risk. I would rather the fight be called a draw. No one "won" this fight, it was just ten rounds of non confrontation. And not at all interesting to watch. imo

  • @nblinko there is something called fighting smart...is edgar suppose to abandon his game plan and just brawl with penn.. thats stupid why would he do that? its not like he was fighting a chump and went the distance with him .IT WAS BJ PENN!

  • Edgar is a punk nd he will lose Vs gray. Bj lost fair nd square but dis doesn't mean Frankie is now da lightweight

  • @specialforces69 i just went based on the girls here

  • bj penn is a little bitch

  • @lapel6 Say it to his face and see who's the little bitch.

  • BJ-Penn gots to be the biggest sore loser in the sport.. what a Douche bag..

  • i cant beleive edgar won again .. i thought for sure bj was gonna drop his ass

  • @specialforces69 look not all filipinos are like that just him..and not every woman in the world thinks that brazilians are hot..y do you think brazilian girls like black guys..lol..and i got me a cuban/nicaraguan chick..i understand your biased opinion due 2 the arrogance and ignorance of 1 filipino

  • b4 we can compare da superiority of edgar 2 penn,u must understand dat gr8 champs aren't determined by beating da same person..they are established by beating ppl in every way possible..taking them 2 da distance, submitting, knocking them out..everything..edgar will have his work cut out 4 him gainst maynard cuz ironically gray trains with da prodigy..also remember bj was da 2nd guy in UFC history 2 win titles in 2 different weight classes..dont know y u wanna down a guy that had 2 bad fights

  • @rippa305

    before we can compare the superiority of Edgar to Penn, you must understand that great champions aren't determined by beating the sam