ICN Informed Citizen News 09/06/09

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[RenegadeTimes]

Out of money ? Not these folks. 1% of the elite's own 41% of the planet - 26 people own 21 % of the planet -85% of the people in the world own nothing ~ and the best for last ...drum roll please ...

The Lizard Queen of England is worth 33 trillion ,,you heard that right ..33 TRILLION !

And people live in tent's, or are withour food around the world ? Are we "getting it yet " ? The international ruling elites want it all and are well on their way of doing just that. ! The U.N. racket !

[pretorious700]

@RenegadeTimes 33 trillion ain't what it used to be, unless she has it in commodities or physical gold. All fiat currencies are positioned to fail.

[RichGonzalezVerona]

@RenegadeTimes The dictator Fidel Castro robed more than $1 billion plus of the wealth of tiny nation Cuba telling the people that it was for the good of the people in the name of communism.

[InformedCitizenNews]

There exists no hard and fast definitions of bear and bull markets that the investment community agrees upon. In general, looking back over time to see long term trends over years not months determines bear or bull markets. Any counter trend move would be "bear market rally" or "bull market correction". This is a bear market since hitting high of over 14,000 on Dow. One could only say, in retrospect, that bull market has begun only if we go on to surpass DOW 14,000.

[InformedCitizenNews]

If market drops lower then all of these rallies were "bear market rallies". Bear and Bull Markets are longer trends. Examples of bear markets are 1929-1952and 1966-1982 and we had bull markets between 1952-1966 and 1982-2007. The market is at a decision point right now. If DOW drops below 6,600 then we saw bear market rally. If DOW runs up to 15,000 or 20,000 then we moved into bull market. If you look at history, this is most likley bear market rally and we head lower.

[InformedCitizenNews]

If inflation kicks in then that is different story. If DOW goes to 20,000 and it costs $500 to buy week's worth of groceries then not much is gained with huge run in DOW. It is all about purchasing power of the dollar. The DOW versus Gold ration is something for you to look at since 1920. Charts are available on Google Images. It shows purchasing power of the dollar over time.

[InformedCitizenNews]

In 1929, DOW purchased over 20 ounces of gold. By 1933, DOW purchased 1 ounce of gold. In 1999, DOW purchased about 40 ounces of gold and now the DOW purchases about 9 ounces of gold. This ratio of DOW index to Gold has been an accurate indicator of market tops and bottoms over time.

[InformedCitizenNews]

Famous investor disclaimer ... "past results is not an indicator of future performance". The variables today have never existed before in the US market. Debt, deficit, unfunded obligations, etc.. The assumption that markets always go up in the long term may no longer apply. As mentioned in an earlier exchange with another viewer on medicare, the U.S. has been borrowing trillions of dollars over the past decades to maintain an inflated standard of living and that bubble may have popped.

[horse1bun]

You said "since the market hit a low in march, it has run up over 50 percent, which is typical of a bear market rally with a violent move up"

I take this to mean that AFTER the BEAR market rally last fall, this current BULL market is a typical violent pullback?

Just to clarify a BULL market is one going up, and a BEAR market is one going down.

This could cause confusion, because since March it has definitely been a BULL market.

Every fall generally sees a BEAR.

Thanks ICN, great job as usual.

[seanmPWH]

I think the Federal Government is beyond repair; it's high time to do away with the federal government, they only treat us as a cash cow for globalist and social engineers. Please see my video "outsmarting globalists" or "call for states to secede from the union"

[Snowflake70]

Stop paying your electric bill. Stop paying your car payment. Stop paying for anything or into a system that prints money from thin air and sucks your life blood from you. Yes, it will take all that and more.

It won't mean anything if only a few do it.

It will mean everything if everyone does it.

[nitdiver5]

Great show this week! You are doing such an awesome job!

[ViciousJones]

once again not showing up in subscriptions on release.

[texpat4jc]

otlechno

[davincij15]

Thanks for your work.

[brianLp518]

111 ratings

324 views

34 comments

I like ICN's subjects it's reporting on, but the sly 5th grader comments at the end of each story is a bit tacky...

[tbx12346993]

still 324!!!

[jsmythib]

still 324..but at least I subscribed..anyway..If they use the IRS for government healthcare..monitoring whatever..I Quit-

[Arginine88]

fuck Obama

[BDillinger4]

yay the real news is back

[Steenville]

Views stuck at 324 is hidden censorship for sure.

[h82sk8]

Thanks ICN! I almost forgot what real news was supposed to look like?

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These numbers do not add up! UTube is cheating again. F*$K1ng Jews! :D

324 views

100 votes

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Slow lo load, even though front page videos come up instantly. After all I'm home alone with a 20Mb Fiber DSL Connection!

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UTube should be better then this?

[fireriver29]

324 still.unreal!

[rothschilds666]

i just saw it. and its still 324 :)

[pshinspections]

Good to see you back on. The graphics look better.

News without emotion and opinion. Refreshing.

RV campgrounds around me are flourishing. It is the cheapest semi-permanent solution for those living after a foreclosure and loss of their home.

[chechilun]

324

[omegasher]

keep letting them get away without cutting benefits, or raising taxes, like people should be angry at them for NOT cutting benefits and NOT raising taxes? What a boggling conclusion to draw. How about not drawing unnecessary conclusion after giving us "facts" so we are able to consider the real information instead of your colored opinion.

[InformedCitizenNews]

Part 1 Response Raise Taxes or Cut Benefits a boggling conclusion to draw

You comment is a good opening to soberly discuss the issue of entitlement programs like Medicare. Your view is not uncommon. You are essentially saying " I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" aka The Wimpy approach to life. In other words, give me my Medicare benefit today and let the next generation pay for it. Taxation without representation in its truest form.

[InformedCitizenNews]

Part 2 Response

All government programs must be funded through taxes. It is unethical and immoral for us to take benefits today without paying for them today. When a program like Medicare runs short of funds there are only three optionsraises taxes, cut benefits, or borrow money. If raising taxes is not reasonable then benefits are too rich to afford and must be scaled back to an acceptable level of taxation. Borrowing only defers taxation.

[InformedCitizenNews]

Part 3 Response

The U.S. will borrow 50% of the money needed to fund government programs this year. That means that your taxes should be about 50% higher. Because the government borrows the money instead of taxing us, all that means is that they defer payment with interest to next year or year after, or year after that, etc... This is why we have $12 trillion real debt and $70 trillion in unfunded future obligations.

[InformedCitizenNews]

Part 4 Response

That is like a person having $500,000 in credit card debt (unsecured i.e. no assets) while only having $100,000 annual income. That person would be in jail or at least in bankruptcy court.

Again, the mature and ethical approach is pay for what you use. We have been stealing future generations standard of living in order to have these benefits today.

[InformedCitizenNews]

Part 5 Response

What we stated in the video is not colored opinion, it is the reality in which moral and ethical people liveThe obligation to live within our means.

Your view in very common and our main mission is to inform and educate. For almost 40 years Americans have been indoctrinated that borrowing money is acceptable, that printing money is the path to prosperity. Throughout history, this has proven false in every case, leading to the collapse of nation-states.

[InformedCitizenNews]

Thanks for your comment and the opportunity to have this dialogue with you and our viewers.

[omegasher]

With all of your responses you have not addressed my original concern. That is that you present "facts" and then instead of letting people draw their own conclusions, like Fox and other propaganda stations you color the "facts" with opinions. I don't need you to explain American taxation for me for your obviously very systemic point of view. I just want the facts and you can keep your opinion to your self.

[InformedCitizenNews]

Please don't take it so personally. There are four things that can be done when a program runs short of funding. 1) Raise taxes 2) cut benefits 3) borrow money 4) cut other programs to free up funds. The easy way out is to borrow money and push the burden out to the future generation. We described this as the cowardly option because the other choices will have short term consequences for politicians. With the size of Medicare the only realistic options are to raise taxes or cut benefits.

[InformedCitizenNews]

Borrowing money defers taxation to the future and unjustly burdens future generations. ICN's mission is not dedicated to Omegasher. If you don't like our channel then you are free to not watch. All news editors have bias because they decide which stories make the broadcast and which do not. You under estimate people to discern the facts of a news story from opinion. You obviously could tell fact from opinion. You can disagree with our editorial point of view, but don't be offended.

[myheadhurtsnow]

Are you the factmaster? Do you decide what is fact? If someone draws a conclusion, is that conclusion automatically disqualified as a fact?

Facts can be drawn from others.

[omegasher]

First don't put words in my mouth. I am in no way saying what you have asserted. You have no understanding of my opinion on medicare. What I am saying is that to say these people are cowards for not raising taxes or cutting benefits makes no sense. Do you want them to cut benefits and raise taxes? That is what your statement implies. I could go further into analyzing your response but I make a point of not getting into semantic arguments with people who insist on using non sequiturs.

[briankofke]

324 views (still!) @ 15:41, with 80 ratings on 9-9-09

[Lexi8888]

324

[elnnito]

Thank you very much for your valuable research and insights. This is what a news program should be like.

[javalily]

story 10 link doesn't work:(

[InformedCitizenNews]

YouTube does not accept certain special characters in hyperlinks. In this case, parentheses. You have to copy and paste the entire URL into your address bar.

[rachelabombdotcom]

324 Wed 2:23 pm EST I love you ICN welcome back!

[marnus9809035]

the real count must be well over 1000 by nou. Who knows, youtube is not telling us!

[marnus9809035]

still at 324

[Steenville]

ICN is GREAT!! :-) These are the real news!!

[dyhawk2]

still at 324

[TribulationWarrior]

Thanks for posting

[pinkfloydmoon]

Thank you

[kingcody2414]

still @ 324

[vinayakaya]

Views still stuck at 324.

[jesslessthemess]

great as always. views: 324

[CosmosPrivateer]

The IRS is part of the Foreign Corporation United States. Same for the Fed and other government offices.

Were screwed again.

[bsaorders]

Views: 324

Great as always

[822207502]

you guys are a beacon of freedom i tells ya...

[RobMon2012]

Thank you ICN!

[rebelstang]

SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!

[Diatonic135]

raising taxes or cutting benefits won't cover the medicare coverage gap.

it's the waste and stealing of money by the government that it is the problem.

[cv1122]

love Taibbi btw

[cv1122]

thanks for speaking on the IRS enforcement of the tax penalty in that unacceptable Bill....NO ONE in the mainstream media will touch it

[xxwnetelxx]

hello

[Yankeeprepper]

Fantastic work. You guys should have a main stream channel on broadcast right next to the slot times with FOX, MSNBC, CBS, etc.

[doncam02]

thank you....great job

[PestControl02]

welcome back!

[PattyC127]

Rated, favorited, Twitted and emailed.

[ejbh3160]

The reason Congress keep getting re-elected is because 60% of people DONT VOTE!

[UsedButNotUsedUP]

The MSM should take some hints, and try telling the truth.

Good job......Keep it up.

[stewtrek]

good to have you back... i missed this last week.

[mintork]

May I ask *every viewer* to drop a comment (even if it is only one word), so that we can estimate the real audience of this channel? THANKS!

[efectomariposa93]

First!

Just kidding. Keep up the good work!

[conqst3]

First!