Timeline To 2012 (Part 12 of 16) Depression and Bible Seals/Trumpets

[amnesiabubble]

u better watch out for u get silenced by the gov you know way to much..

[connie2726]

people please read Luke chapter 21:21 the signs are in the sky have your heart right mind and body right. These are sign of Jesus return. read the bible.

Get ready watch and pray.

[michaeldrewdanner]

I pray every nation country,state ,city all come together at the time of need and love and care for each other,feed and house each outer and new sense of love takes over our every action ! and a share for all,so we all feel together as one .

[dudetteyvette]

i wonder where that 1/3 part of the world is going to be scorched..

[SecretSOfTheFish]

Flooding money in to the system by giving every one 100k Would only rise the price on goods And tho for it would crash the market , the economy Requires poor people It's not a perfect system, destroying the money system would be much more efective.

[mrfortion408]

Our own government is owned by rich elite and you stupid sheep people know it. The occult circle elite control jails,churches,malls,food,ever­ything and you know it. we have less control in money but we poor people all sons of god can change by our own actions even the elite rich that cause and provoke other nations to join their slavery system. Countries with federal banks and none are the our enemies. Right no the people with in banker your corrupt leaders,politicians.& sinners everyone dies.

[livinincalifornia]

When you speak on the economic collapse, although you did at first overestimate how bad things would get and how fast, I feel as if it's possible that we're being held from collapse by the banks themselves. They orchestrated it, they control it, they will make sure that worldwide "depression" in a sense doesn't happen as it isn't advantageous to them as they are interested in making more and more for themselves, and they need indentured servants to do so, no matter what the quality of life is

[TEARDUCTER]

seems strange that the US still is ranking as number 1 worldwide in the amount of gold they have

[tyronebiggums3]

Apr 29, 2011: Madrid, Spain (CNN)

Spain's jobless rate tops 21% as all major sectors lose jobs

Spain's unemployment rate rose nearly a point to 21.29%, with 4.9 million jobless for the first quarter of 2011, the government reported Friday, as the prolonged economic crisis continues to squeeze the nation.

[ArtsAlign]

Prophecies are self-fulfilling or they are not. Form follows thought. There is huge new age demographic that are not investing their intentions in ancient text, so much of what was discussed may never come to pass.

[spiritman2012]

An updated perspective on the coming events can be found at (timeline2012 . net) under Founder Messages. This new perspective is based on current events and our ongoing research and will explain why 2012 will probably become another Y2K or the greatest non-event in history.

[TEARDUCTER]

@spiritman2012 Yes but can you imagine the imaginary high all us oldies are having from this after feeling depressed because nothing ever happened all the years gone by. It is still an exciting event even though if we know deep down this wont happen to us because it is now curiosity of the out come that makes us want to live longer At least we will have had the experience in thought if not in reality after all most people get more excited if one anticipates a disaster over nothing at all :)

[carlt1homas]

@spiritman2012 This is now getting very confussing.... U keep the videos up here, but are saying that it will probably be like Y2K..... I just went in on UR site - and found new worldmaps, from this year, not looking like the 2day ones - so how can that be another Y2K... And how can the data (with the solar system on 21st of Dec 2012) - change by little events here on earth? What you predict and then going to that nothing is going to happen is a major jump... am not getting this?

[spiritman2012]

@carlt1homas I can see why you are confused. I have stated that I believe the events are still going to occur in a Timeline which we will unfold in our near future. I have concluded the correlation of these events with the Dec 21, 2012 date is inaccurate. 2012 will become another Y2K since none of the predicted cataclysmic events will occur before 2013 and likely not for several years after. The events on Earth have not changed the data, it's only the interpretation of the data that has changed.

[carlt1homas]

@spiritman2012 Hey again: U don't have to put this on, and I ask in all respect, cos you did get me onto Ian's film and explanation. I see the differencies and similarities. So, is this a case of you getting excited bout that U might have solved the last bit of the pussle of last events? Acording to him, it's contiouness before events? Mayan data, what can be read differently, and is it because of actual data or events no accuring on earth? Hope U don't take 1st question as an insult, it is not.

[yabaworld]

Current US Population 18+ years = 224,703,000 census.gov

224,703,000 X $145,000 = $ 32,581,935,000,000 that's 32.58 Trillion Dollars

This guy said if you took 100 billion and divided it between all 18+ Americans they would each get $145,000. I think he's on the right track. We should have used that money to give every major city 1 or 2 billion dollars. And also have made them spend 1/2 of it on public-owned renewable energy plants and the other 1/2 for saving 5 years.

[Kenzofeis]

If one view the Ionosphere as an electrically conductive layer of "cool" plasma floating on an insulating layer of Nitrogen and Oxygen (electrical insulation increases with gas pressure: that's why nominal spark gap at 1bar is ~1kV/1mm, while at 10bar you need >10kV, so in piston gas engines they use 15-25kV coils) and then you have the next conductive layer in the planet surface, a planet is a spec of dust moving in an electric field.. This builds charge, and nature seeks equilibrium/discharge.

[gideonlion]

you make the point to say that Rev 8:12 if we understand prophecy and the way they wrote that it means three days, why not believe Jesus in Matthew 24:22 that the very days will be shortened. couldn't this just as well mean literally a third shorter day. we know in Daniel that there is a set number of days to this period of events. So it can't mean less days.

[spiritman2012]

@gideonlion You make a valid point to the possible interpretations of this information. All I might add are the other references to the fear that people experience as a result of this period of darkness. The references indicate that people experience a sort of madness which can be understood if the Sun did not rise for 3 days and people would panic out of fear that the Sun would never rise again. I don't mean to imply this as definitive. It's all about doing the best job of interpreting.

[mslisajoy]

Thank you for sharing. Very important to get this information to as many people as possible. Many blessings to you and your loved ones. Have a wonderful journey.

Namaste,

Lisa Joy

[joh1722]

Things are bad but i feel most people are good and want good for the world.They need one person to lead the way.Not from government and not from the religious movement .Times will tell.Time is running short.

[DavesAV6]

lol, august 2009 come and gone, aug. 2010 come and gone....no world warIII

Shouldn't make statements that the world war will start on any certain day/month, that will take credibility away from what your trying to tell us.

[spiritman2012]

@DavesAV6 You are absolutely correct. Although I believe a Timeline of events does exist, through further research, I have found this Timeline is unfolding more slowly than originally anticipated. This means that we do not need to predict anything, but only observe the events which will reveal the actual Timeline. I guess we all must learn some way and making mistakes is part of that process.

[DavesAV6]

@spiritman2012 thanks for replying. I wasn't trying to be negative to you, although it reads that way now I see it again. You have a lot of great info and views, and I want people to take this seriously. Just a couple things bugged me so I mentioned them. And I realize ww3 stage is already set.There is a lot that needs to happen in a short time, but we hit feb 10 soon and things could unfold quickly. Once that ball gets rolling, there will be no stopping it.

[Spamazoid]

@DavesAV6 One could argue there's always a world war, it's just a period of peace inbetween each surgeance . World War was restarted in 1991 with US attacking Iraq, whether it be for peace or for resources it's irrelevant, there was an attack that dragged the western world into it.

Doesn't matter what happens, until there's a total shift in conscienceness people will always fight over religion and ultimately over control.

[mike184ever1]

so I have to ask where is the world wide depression,,,yes,there is small evidence.

When did the 3rd world war start? This guy speaks with a credible tone but when we look back after time we see its a flop

[spiritman2012]

@mike184ever1 Yes, don't even give any of this a thought. The fact that the timing of the predictions are off definitely means it won't happen in our lifetime. What kind of rational thinking or logic is that conclusion based on?

[mike184ever1]

@spiritman2012 Oh I looked at Mckenna's timewave and even held out for Watkins math. I do however think there is something to 2012. Not into the paradigm shift. That seems to be an out for those that invested into webbot and timewave...Dont be defensive,my bugout bag is still packed

[Strange0ne]

@mike184ever1 here is your world war it is begining now!

[docatomics]

...only oligarchs independent of the catholic syndicate with nukes & hollow fish at this time is your Israeli government friend, so now it is up to you to remind them of this, that they may choose not to seek reciprocal destruction with there collective efforts , rather invest informed survival decisions survival for what is to be, you will need your Persian brothers to help you-all survive to do the star treking, preserving all life with your skills & collective effort rather than extinction

[topchef]

Earth is rotating at a speed of about 1100 miles per hour. If our planet suddenly stopped rotating, the atmosphere would still be in motion at that speed. The atmosphere would be moving so fast it would literally sweep the land masses clear of anything not anchored to bedrock, this would mean rocks, soil, trees, buildings, people and animals. All would be swept up into the atmosphere.

[IamMagPie]

WW3 starts before August 2009? Didn't happen. Oil is relatively cheap still, now in May 2010...

[13vocals]

@IamMagPie historically, wars are started based on a series of events, i.e. the tonkan incident and the sinking of the Lusitania, last summer, Obama tried to convince Netanyahu to allow the Palestinians in Gaza to build and to relieve some of the tension in the region, he in so many words replied "F U" and now you have events like the Floatilla the other day, and things are getting progressively worse, so in the future, if we have one, people will look at an incident in 09 that prompted it

[dragnet53]

@IamMagPie

Iran and Israel though are in a heated arguments. experts predicted by the end of this year or next year that there will be another depression.

[BKL8008]

@IamMagPie - I was about to ask this too. Did I miss the New Depression and WWIII? Then again, the Mayans were only 33 seconds off, too?

[shadowwbn]

I try to watch these video clips to keep me motivated to prepare for the 'worst case scenario' which you outline pretty good.

In anycase I just noticed something, in the 6th seal, the "Stars of Heaven fell", if the Earth was to stop rotating, or reverse, wont all the satelites/space station fall from space? Heaven was considered above the clouds and satelites have been known to be seen by people on the ground as a white dot moving in a linear fashion across the sky.

[spiritman2012]

Great observation and an important one. Yes, whether our satellites crash to Earth from gravitational effects or they disintegrate due to excessive solar or galactic radiation doesn't really matter. The fact is that all space and ground telecommunications will be gone. This is why we emphasize for people to start getting prepared for these coming times.

[Kenzofeis]

@shadowwbn "if the Earth was to stop rotating, or reverse, wont all the satelites/space station fall from space?"

They rotate in near vacuum, they have their own momentum. However, if electrical (think macroskopic) forces, or a gravitational pull (held by many to be based on the same thing) retards and reverses Earths rotation, it may also brake down the satellites, removing their orbital momentum - they fall down - or they can be accelerated and fly off.

[shadowwbn]

But, I do agree with you that considering the amount of money used, the govt. has produced too much "bullshitz" with only minimun results. Seems like only people getting the 'breaks' are people who would still be considered wealthy after the fallout. Everyone else is still screwed over.

[shadowwbn]

US population is 308,000,000 (est). 25% are under 18, round up to 30% just for kicks. Thats 215,600,000, with 100 billion dollars it divides into 436$ per person. How do you get 145,000$ person, it would take over 312 TRILLION dollars to give 215,600,000 people 145,000$.

[spiritman2012]

I can not even remember where I found that information, but at the time the calculation worked as I would not have mentioned it otherwise. It may be that the figures actually represented a smaller group of the population. Either way, the bigger issue is that the government can not repay the debts they owe and have no plan or long-term capability to do so. They can not even afford to pay the interest on the debt. Their only option is to let the system collapse completely and start over.

[shadowwbn]

Actually, total collapse is not their only way to get rid of our insanely high debt. Just off the top of my Head:

1-Ultimaitum countries we owe money too with, "Forgive our debt, (or decrease it or no more interest. Or else we can make your nation the next Iraq. This will make us look like tyrants, which will eventually lead to all other nations coming together to fight us, which would be very bad.

2- Get rid of all the politicians that are incompetent, greedy, unethical rejects, ect.

[spiritman2012]

Your solutions sound easy except that forgiving debt does not work at all. It creates instant devaluation of the currency and inflation. If you research the options, you will find the only solution that does not result in a crash is to repay the debt. I have written about these options on our website if you are interested (t i m e l i n e 2 0 1 2 . n e t). This can be found under the Social Economic Impacts.

[LuqmanNaq]

@shadowwbn Money is debt... check out the docs online Money as Debt 1 and 2... without debt we'd have a collapse, and because of debt we are having a collapse.

[q7spiz]

@LuqmanNaq Yeah, thats on point. WWIII? Its a creeper thing. Maybe its already been going on somehow and its so covert yet right under everyones noses at the same time. Its not a usual obvious war. Its a very steady, tactical thinking war thats part covert part known. Where is it? Its in the TV shows. Its in FM radio. Its sneaky though. Its on the internet. Its in other countries. Its in the chaos that happens sometimes in the US. Its in the economy. Its in the food. Its in our minds, too.

[TheWillwillwill]

@q7spiz Yeah war could mainifest in different ways. I think it is more of an economic war than anything else. If is a war of of currencies. The petrodollar is trying to protect its dominant position. Iran want to change to the euro or a basket of currencies. Chavez wants the same. Sadam did switch to the Euro. Look what happened to him. Look who supported US in Iraq. How many were Euro countries. Brittian is still on the pound.

[123backinyerface]

@spiritman2012 Interestingly there s a time in the Mayan culture when they would put out all the lights in then land and after a day they would relight the fires and all debts were wiped back to Zero.

Reminds me of the movie Fightclub and its target of the credit companies. And we all know Movies serve at least two purposes, entertainment and preparation for the mind.

[slobomotion]

Societe Generale here in France has advised their clients to get out of the U.S. dollar and to prepare for the global economic collapse.

[jadirks00]

please understand that predictions of future events are always subject to free will. That said, just because the media has not told you that the 3rd War has not all ready begun.

[bdc03]

WW3 by end of 2010.

[faszika]

all the bad is being postponed or removed. keep working lightworkers =D

[carlosZ1981]

this is amazing, i will share this with my loved ones

[SilentPrayingmanTis]

Its September so...

[msintesi]

Thank you Spiritman for your presentation. It is very accurate and embraces many subjects but I noticed that you said world war 3 should have started before August but it has not happened. Let's hope for the best anyway.

[spiritman2012]

Thank you for your comment. You might want to check out our website website (t i m e l i n e 2 0 1 2 . o r g), specifically FAQ18 under theTimeline 2012 tab. This delves further into the timing of WWIII and how it relates to the coming economic collapse. I also just posted a recent interview where I discuss more on the timing and preparation for upcoming events. Yes, we always hope for the best and the possibility of reversing some of these potentials.

[E60BEEMER]

spiritman, i have followed this and believe withour any doubts, is there anyway anywere were humans can survive! i mean earth is going to be ripped up from underneath us, water as tidalwaves is also going to overwhelm coastal land, is India safe , in the Punjab region, far enough away from the himalayas

[spiritman2012]

I would suggest you visit our website (t i m e l i n e 2 0 1 2 . o r g) and read the FAQ sections under Timeline 2012 and Community Project. The part that might help most is under Geophysical Preparation, but it is not done yet. If you don't know the web address, just click on my channel. You may find answers to many of your questions. Please feel free to ask your question again if you don't find an answer.

[spiritman2012]

Most people's reaction to this material is generally fear, but that is not my reaction or my message. Do you hear fear in my voice? In my delivery? Fear comes from a lack of understanding. When you understand a thing two things happen. It no longer controls you and you no longer fear it.

[davidpaul8]

This starting to feel like Fear.

We can change this my friend.

We are one. We are love!

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