If this is Cliburn from the Tchaikovsky competition in the late 1950s it is a very embarassing performance from the pianist who produced the greatest single performance of any piano concerto (Rachmaninoff 3rd, of course). I wonder if this was a required "competition piece" that he didn't care about because it is full of wrong notes, lacks insight, and sounds awkward; it was a miracle they let him proceed to the finals.
Well, I, for one, would take this performance over Cziffra and Berezovsky any time. Wrong notes and all, it has a touch of grandeur and shows rare musicianship and insight.
Plenty of mistakes, wrong keys, bad phrasing... Is he Van Cliburn really?? It can't be possible. This perfomance is terrible! Myself and many students of the Conservatory play this Etude much more better...!
Plenty of mistakes, wrong keys, bad phrasing... Is he Van Cliburn really?? It can't be possible. This perfomance is terrible! Myself and many students of the Conservatory play this Etude much more better...!
Yes, this is from the Tchaik Competition - it's V. C. alright. Please remember that is is...1) Live in concert, not edited 2) a HUGE competition and a big deal 3) for those of us that have played this piece, it's extremely difficult to play live without mistakes. Cliburn was a very young man here! Very passionate performance.
@Stoneyridger Listen to Berezovsky´s live recording. Jesus christ, this Cliburn makes many mistakes and tries to be too romantic in TRANSCENDENTAL studies which are about sound and music....It doesnt really matter that Berezovsky has a newer recording - both are live and you can still hear the music
i think it is a great piece and a great performance so shut the fuck up and just sit tight and listen..........always remember that NO ONE can play like that today
Of course this is Cliburn everybody-- this is from the Tchaikovsky Competition 1958. Why do you all think this is a bad performance? Why do you equate perfection with accuracy? It is a sincere and lyrical performance, as is typical with Cliburn in his performances, even the more note-accurate ones. This performance is mentioned in the Cliburn biography.
@richterkleiber I agree... Plus it's a live, unedited performance. There are many other live performances on YT with mistakes too. Even though this isn't my favorite performance, it's still great and I still hear the horse galloping in this one.
This performance is taken from the semi-finals of the 1950 Tchaikovsky Competion. I agree with Iggerard48: there is great emotion in this playing, and, to me, wonderfully represents early Cliburn. Yes, there are missed notes, and perhaps he didn't have as much opportunity to practice the work as he did others.
I first heard this recording on a record that I obtained from the Soviet Union (designated title at this time), and along with this piece, it featured the Kabalesky Rondo..
God do I hate armchair critics. Did anyone hear actually listen to the piece with their eyes closed and pay attention to the feeling shown. Is this a perfect performance? Of course not. As an analogy, it would be as if Tiger Woods had a less than perfect day and shot only par on a tough us open course rather than 5 under. A truly bad pianist doesn't or can't play like this.
some "anti-Cliburn" guy must have got a crappy performance from somewhere and claimed it was by Van Cliburn. Van Cliburn's better than this, I know this for sure.
It's obvious that he has an image in mind but it doesn't seem to have been an entirely convincing one for either himself or most especially for me. Yeech!
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gardarart 2 weeks ago
Sounds like a rehersal...sadly....
garijusti 2 weeks ago
easily not cliburn...
pizzaboy456783 1 month ago
.... the interlocking octaves SHOULD NOT be played with the pedal.
Sounds horrid.
FlyingBlackAndWhite 2 months ago
It's not THAT bad.
DancerAndMe123 6 months ago
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DancerAndMe123 6 months ago
Berezovsky is the best on this etude!!!!
liakosf 6 months ago 2
@liakosf you do not remember arrau?
71lupenzo710 4 months ago
@liakosf he's not at all
newFranzFerencLiszt 2 months ago
Van Cliburn was a marvelous pianist but not here. Go listen to Cziffra for these Transcendental Etudes.
telephilia 7 months ago
@telephilia I agree whole-heartedly. Listen to Cziffra for Liszt etudes.
MrLieblingsessen 7 months ago
@telephilia Then go listen to Lazar Berman for one of the greatest performances of this (and the other 11)
leongatha6 3 months ago
WHAT'S THAT?
PLEASE, ONLY BEREZOVSKY
leugimsierra 8 months ago
@leugimsierra
Anche Vladimir Ovcinnikov, precisione eccezionale, quasi miracolosa !!!!
darkblueangel1956 8 months ago
this is NOT Cliburn
marcohorowitz8 9 months ago
If this is Cliburn from the Tchaikovsky competition in the late 1950s it is a very embarassing performance from the pianist who produced the greatest single performance of any piano concerto (Rachmaninoff 3rd, of course). I wonder if this was a required "competition piece" that he didn't care about because it is full of wrong notes, lacks insight, and sounds awkward; it was a miracle they let him proceed to the finals.
shusarik 10 months ago
Well, I, for one, would take this performance over Cziffra and Berezovsky any time. Wrong notes and all, it has a touch of grandeur and shows rare musicianship and insight.
Spiritakis 10 months ago
Of course it's Cliburn! Not only that, this is part of his competition WINNING performances in 1958 during the competition.
OrangeSodaKing 1 year ago
noise
anonymousQ45 1 year ago
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Plenty of mistakes, wrong keys, bad phrasing... Is he Van Cliburn really?? It can't be possible. This perfomance is terrible! Myself and many students of the Conservatory play this Etude much more better...!
Wagnerianismo 1 year ago
Plenty of mistakes, wrong keys, bad phrasing... Is he Van Cliburn really?? It can't be possible. This perfomance is terrible! Myself and many students of the Conservatory play this Etude much more better...!
Wagnerianismo 1 year ago
wtf is this shit. definitely not cliburn
SpR4y510 1 year ago 2
Stilll a hell of alotbetter than me. *Crys in cor ner*
openmindspace 1 year ago
Yes, this is from the Tchaik Competition - it's V. C. alright. Please remember that is is...1) Live in concert, not edited 2) a HUGE competition and a big deal 3) for those of us that have played this piece, it's extremely difficult to play live without mistakes. Cliburn was a very young man here! Very passionate performance.
Stoneyridger 1 year ago
@Stoneyridger Listen to Berezovsky´s live recording. Jesus christ, this Cliburn makes many mistakes and tries to be too romantic in TRANSCENDENTAL studies which are about sound and music....It doesnt really matter that Berezovsky has a newer recording - both are live and you can still hear the music
BlazeKenny 1 year ago
@BlazeKenny Agreed
ann03071874 11 months ago
powerful!
4785689 1 year ago
i think it is a great piece and a great performance so shut the fuck up and just sit tight and listen..........always remember that NO ONE can play like that today
relaischat 1 year ago
@relaischat ... what???? :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
tuufysucka 11 months ago
This sucks
MasterAzunai 1 year ago
Of course this is Cliburn everybody-- this is from the Tchaikovsky Competition 1958. Why do you all think this is a bad performance? Why do you equate perfection with accuracy? It is a sincere and lyrical performance, as is typical with Cliburn in his performances, even the more note-accurate ones. This performance is mentioned in the Cliburn biography.
richterkleiber 1 year ago
@richterkleiber I agree... Plus it's a live, unedited performance. There are many other live performances on YT with mistakes too. Even though this isn't my favorite performance, it's still great and I still hear the horse galloping in this one.
OrangeSodaKing 1 year ago
bleahhh!! schifoo!!
Attila19101960 2 years ago
this is not Van Cliburn
If this is his playing, then he is surely overrated.
yenhoho 2 years ago
this is awful
disfiguringthegoddes 2 years ago
@disfiguringthegoddes lol i just think the piece is really difficult and exhausting
fortissimo25 1 year ago
這不是我心目中的范.克萊邦！
一開頭怎麼聽都是糟，很難替他"圓謊"!
但還聽得出彈奏的人有相當高的實力。
到底誰能解釋...
"what happened to Van.Cliburn"??
seremerow 2 years ago 3
this can't be cliburn, and if it was, he wouldn't embarrass himself :) god this is aweful if it is...
MoronPianist 2 years ago
I don't care WHO plays it; it's an UNAPPEALING piece of pianistic theatrics!
Not worth the effort, I should think.
Pischnaholic 2 years ago
A few good and many horrible things in this performance.
Strange, as I have wonderful recordings by Van Cliburn.
I wonder if this is the fine pianist Cliburn, too...
geertdehoux 2 years ago 11
This performance is taken from the semi-finals of the 1950 Tchaikovsky Competion. I agree with Iggerard48: there is great emotion in this playing, and, to me, wonderfully represents early Cliburn. Yes, there are missed notes, and perhaps he didn't have as much opportunity to practice the work as he did others.
I first heard this recording on a record that I obtained from the Soviet Union (designated title at this time), and along with this piece, it featured the Kabalesky Rondo..
carlms50 2 years ago
this is not Cliburn.
marcohorowitz8 2 years ago
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This isn't Cliburn. It's some turdburger.
99hoolio 2 years ago
God do I hate armchair critics. Did anyone hear actually listen to the piece with their eyes closed and pay attention to the feeling shown. Is this a perfect performance? Of course not. As an analogy, it would be as if Tiger Woods had a less than perfect day and shot only par on a tough us open course rather than 5 under. A truly bad pianist doesn't or can't play like this.
lggerard48 2 years ago 4
...but that is what a music listener is.- an "armchair critic"
(or sometimes a "concert hall chair critic" )
dunavuk 2 years ago
some "anti-Cliburn" guy must have got a crappy performance from somewhere and claimed it was by Van Cliburn. Van Cliburn's better than this, I know this for sure.
chopinandliszt 2 years ago 2
Van Cliburn is kind of overrated
Phi1618033 2 years ago
really BAD
kellogsrosario 3 years ago
It's obvious that he has an image in mind but it doesn't seem to have been an entirely convincing one for either himself or most especially for me. Yeech!
aardvaark069 3 years ago
Lazar Berman owns the transcendental etudes (second only to Liszt himself)!
danceofthegoblins 3 years ago
And you heard Liszt when?????
Obaysch 3 years ago 13
I'm normally generous with my comments but this is not great - dear oh dear!!!
15267777 3 years ago
Where is this from? I was not aware that Van Cliburn had recorded this...
nico22059 3 years ago