I am a listener of Baroque music. I just attempted to listen to some contemporary classical music and I think I damaged my brain. I need to listen to Bach to fix my brain.
I love how this concerto uses the usually harsh harpsichord (which I love, BTW) as the dressing on the salad which is the whole musical piece, and the strings as the "lettuce". An absolute delight. Since there were no machine shops back then, there are no aural references to the band TOOL--so much for MY metal band correlations.
how is metal even closely related to this.... metal is terrible.. i would say this is more related to bands like queen and muse.. not like torsofuck or whatever shitty metal bands are out there
@SeaWithinASea111 Uhh, no. Metal is extremely classicaly backed, at least some of it is. Bach is pretty much my standing point for everything I write, and I play mostly death metal besides classical. A lot of my friends who play the same stuff as me have absolutely no classical background, but I do. Muse sucks dick, Queen rocks, but seriously don't talk shit before you don't know shit.
@Shredder665 i really don't understand how how you can compare something so beautiful with something (using a metal term here) brutal. Anyway all western music has roots in classical music. I lost all respect for metal after I found grindcore/Pornogrind, horrid stuff.. and about muse.. you have obviously only heard their new stuff.. listen to more than a few songs before you judge it. (and yes I know a lot more about metal than you would think)
@SeaWithinASea111 I have listened to a lot of Muse, and I just don't care for it. Yes pretty much all music has roots in classical, but metal is the most classically influenced genre. Yes classic rock guitars like Jimmy Page or Ritchie Blackmore had major classical influence, but that's still "rock n roll." If you can't hear the classical influence in black metal or neoclassical, then you gotta be crazy. Grind is garbage though, I agree. That isn't death metal, that's fucking noise.
@SeaWithinASea111 i can see how it could be. it would be awesome if it any band could sound lik this. having a gutiar doni chords and fastly play soemthin sick like that.
Bach llueix tant com les estrelles més cristal·lines. La seva música és plena de vida, farcida d'esperances que ens il·lusionen cada dia. El clavecí d'aquest concert és inefable, però també el contrapunt de les cordes. Em quedo bocabadat. Romàntic nocturn.
holy shit the harpsichord parts in the this piece reflect modern day metal guitar riffs and solos even ones not considered "neo-classical". truly fascinating to study
There is indeed some sort of link between baroque and metal. Maybe it's the hair? Ha.ha! Honestly, as a youngster, I listened to stuff like Kiss and AC/DC (and The Ramones, but that is Punk). Then I suddenly turned to Bach and Handel. Strange, right? Now I listen to a lot of classical music ( my favourites are Bach, Handel, Mozart, Beethoven and Wagner), with some Iron Maiden in between. By the way, is the painter called Caspar, or something?
I loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee how dramatic the violins, violas, cello's and magnificent harpsichord sound. Did I miss any other instruments?
First time hearing, yes Bach and baroque music sounds fantastic. But believe me, studying it makes it painful to your ears. The most complicated music.
First time hearing, yes Bach and baroque music sounds fantastic. But believe me, studying it makes it painful to your ears. The most complicated music.
Sometimes when I hear a classic piece I come to think that it could sound like the heavy metal of its time ;-)) Depending on the style of course.
I do listen to heavy metal. I like many bands. But I also like classical music, A LOT! No problem in listening to both genres. But for me there is no doubt. Even if I really like AC/DC, Pantera, Rammstein, Metallica, Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Sepultura and many others it is still Bach, Vivaldi, Telemann, Händel, Mozart etc who are my greatest idols.
Interesting point. There's a LOT of Bach-inspired elements in Rammstein.... maybe because they are German... but they seem to borrow counterpoint and other baroque ideas from Bach and Handel a LOT. If you listen really close to most everything they composed after "Du Hast", the amount of Bach they borrow is almost unbelievable. They also use metaphors from Goethe and probably some of Beethoven's ideas too in their songs. Rosenrot, Morgenstern, and Reise, Reise especially.
@byf43 Agree with you 100%. I love Baroque as much as I love Metal. Both are complicated in their unique ways, but I find their energy so similar. If I am not listening to Bach or Vivaldi, I am listening to progressive metal. Like the bands you mention. Plus one of my new favs Meshuggah. They are profound.
@tulkasainur This piece we are listening is profound. But when I listen to Bach, it is like hearing music for the first time. I have this experience every time I hear something from him. I am getting a tatoo of Bach on my arm. Words cannot describe the experience listening to his works.
@Hybridhor Interesting, I didn't realize so many people listened to Baroque and Metal as I do! I think there is a connection - just listen to Yngwie Malmsteen (Caprici di Diablo), Animals As Leaders (Tempting Time), Liquid Tension Experiment / Dream Theater, maybe even Protest the Hero, and it should be easy to hear.
@Intredasting I know of the bands you speak of. Malmsteen has been a fav of mine since the late eighties. I dedicated 2 years to studying just him. Its amazing what you learn by focusing on one musician. Dedicate yourself to learning how he thinks. I actually built my own Malmsteen Strat. Rock on my brother.
@MrViolinGuy originally this concerto was written for violin. Later, Bach for the cembalo version extended the solo voice, added harmonies in the left hand and revised it for 'virtuoso' keyboard playng.
For those of you saying heavy metal is not real music, or is nothing but noise, here are some metal bands that stand out in my mind for being able to compose sonically aesthetic, melodic, technical, "real" music, without losing the metal sound. Emperor (thanks Shagrachaos), Keep of Kalessin, Luca Turilli, DragonLord, Angra, Stormlord, Stormwarrior, Swallow the Sun, Twin Obscenity, Children of Bodom, Fear Factory, Mushroomhead, Iron Maiden, Graveworm, Mudvayne, Pantera, Old Man's Child, Arcturus.
@kolpinj Just end the conversation! I don't know why Bach videos are always filled with comments about metal! This does not sound at all like metal so I don't know why everybody in comparing metal with Bach! Metal is just some mad person banging on metal as hard as he can! I don't know why it is even considered music! It just hurts your ears with someone screaming into a microphone and banging stuff that don't even sound like instruments!
@dustpelt1 Did you actually read my comments, or just see the word "metal" and fill in the rest yourself? Why do people compare classical to metal? Maybe because they have things in common. Of course, all the classical that's still around is good, survival of the fittest, and metal is so new the stuff that sucks hasn't gone extinct yet. But you speak of metal as if it's all the same. You must not have developed an ear for metal, to tell songs apart. Some is noisy & talentless, other is good.
@dustpelt1 The people comparing listen to both genres & find similarities, can recognize good music no matter what the genre is. Some metal songs have skilled composers & performers. Skill can exist anywhere. Now it's used in metal because electric guitars are in style. It's loud & aggressive, which may distract you from a song's other qualities if you're not used to metal, but if you like it enough to keep listening, you develop an ear for the rhythm, melody, etc. Listeners know it's music.
@Lity10 Actually some Metal is indeed satanistic with someone screaming into a mic but the highly technical music is easily comparable to classical music. Anyone else thinking about Emperor? Anyway this is a beautiful piece. Still searching for more classical music.
@Shagrachaos Thumbs up to you! I listen to Emperor. I like the song "Empty". A singer screaming into a mic & the aggressive sound of the instruments may grab someone's attention, but once you've been listening to metal a while you hear through that and start to notice musical and technical patterns in the notes. It's more than noise; it's well-composed music, played in a loud aggressive way. It's good to see fellow metal listeners on classical videos. Luca Turilli is another good example.
Brilliant work. I find the performance with the added ornamentation to be quite refreshing, but with the performance so "crisp", I find the slight rubatos throughout the piece to be a bit out of place. My humble opinion.
Saying that Bach would have preferred the modern piano not only shows a lack of interest in the music practice of his time, but also a misguided feeling of superiority towards Bach and contemporaries. It is just as silly as saying that Beethoven would have preferred the latest multi-voice synthesizer over a Steinway.
I know, but it is amazing how many people think that Beethoven or Bach would have preferred a modern Steinway over their own instruments, which were usually the best instruments available and often built with specific demands from the composer
@0lijfje True, and in fact it's a quite useless discussion. They wrote their pieces to fit the instruments they had and knew... All the rest is speculation :)
Are you talking about plain technique? This is an harpsichord, which Gould demonstrated not to know how to play (he could have, of course, but he had other ideas...). Gould had technique, ear and imagination for polyphonic music ON PIANO, and he purposely never maintained a "scholarly" approach to baroque music, not by today's standards anyway... I'm pretty sure you are thinking about all of the dynamics graduations and nuances possible on a piano - but not on an harpsichord :-)
... playing Bach on the piano is certainly possible, interesting, etc., but Bach did not imagine or think that sound when he wrote this (which was a violin concerto anyway). It would be like playing Mozart on electric guitar: possible, interesting, but not the "sound world" Mozart's music was created to live in.
I would be foolish to think that J.S. Bach would not have preferred a modern piano to the baroque instrument. Other than for being cute, a "scholarly" interpretation of Bach serves no greater musical purpose.
Bach would have shit his pants in delight to hear Glenn Gould play his music on a Steinway D.
@fbargus :Bach was certainly flexible as far as his music and how to perform it. It should suffice to say that this was originally a violin concerto, then a harpsichord concerto, even an organ concerto (in the version for a cantata's "sinfonia"). But saying Bach would have preferred a modern piano... I don't know. Also, you would have to reconsider many factors - balance of sonorities, tuning, gut vs. nylon strings for the orchestra, range, pedaling, etc. For sure he'd change a few things ;-)
G. Gould plays with a lot of sentimentality, as if he were playing for teenager, romantic girls.
"I certainly dont know what Bach would think about his pieces beeing playing in a piano."
Bach would not mind listening to his pieces being performed with a piano. But he would be horrified when listening to such a sentimentality and passion.
Baroque music is an art without sentimentality nor passion.
Performances of baroque music should contain dramatism, and not sentimentality. Do you understand the difference? The usage of piano is not the reason why G. Gould performances are so horrible.
I love your videos... I can't choose the best part of the song; I like all =)... I live in Guatemala... I hate not having friends like you because I don't know when to listen to baroque or classical music live, and I don't know enough about this music.
@supermariozaken This is a Double Manual Harpsichord, as @HARMONICO101 said, but it is possible to do a slight dinamic variation on every harpsichord, without changing stops. You just have to study that (touché) - but it's quite difficult to do, and as the music of this instrument requires a different listening, it can be difficult to "modern listeners" to hear it too.
El ritmo "vivace",que imprime Alessandrini,permite otras lecturas de Bach.Lo siento,tempestuoso,torrencial y bello hasta salirse del marco.¡Excelente trabajo!.
Not true. Cristofori's "piano et forte" appeared in 1700, when Bach was a teenager. Bach tried a Silbermann piano (based on a Crisofori's design) in the 1730s, liked the tone, but complained that the action was too heavy and the high register weak. In 1747 Bach tried the new Silbermanns at the Prussian court.
But it wasn't until the 1760s that pianos started to appear in concerts and piano music began to be published in quantity.
There is a vid of Paul Gilbert (1 of the worlds greatest shredders) playing like 10 secs of the intro and it still sounds brilliant. Just 10seconds....10SECONDS! Thats how awesome BACH is.
JOHANN SEBASTIAN BACH (1685-1750) Concerto for solo harpsichord, strings, and basso continuo in D minor BWV1052 1. Allegro Performed by Concerto Italiano Featuring Rinaldo Alessandrini, harpsichord
Both harpsichord and Glenn Gould versions are great! You just have to listen to them differently. The piano and specially the way Gould plays it has much more feeling to it but harpsichord is the original sound that this was meant for. I enjoy both!
I don't think there is anything completely wrong with saying you prefer Glenn Gould's version. It's an opinion. Isn't that what these boxes are for? bets36 got -7? Come on guys, he didn't say this version sucked! haha.
I looooooove hearing this harpsichord and the brisk pace of this piece is very uplifting. Thanks for posting!
BWV stands for "Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis" (Bach Works Catalogue) which is the numbering system used to catalogue Bach's music. The BWV followed by a number, is the shorthand for identifying Bach's works. They are grouped thematically, not chronologically.
@captainegofantastic I really don't get why people keep comparing Bach to heavy metal. Ok, the structure might be the same, but that's it. This is real music, not heavy metal, which, in my opinion is mostly noise. I'm pretty sure Bach wouldn't listen to that shit if he lived today.
@Lity10 Agree, but heavy metal is real music too, not for everybody, but thats the good thing about music genres, you can choose what you like, but dont say that the genres you dont like are not real music.
@Lity10 Actually ppl compare Bach to Neoclassical Metal, which virtuoso guitarists are influenced mainly by Classical Music specially from Baroque Musicians like Bach or Paganini for example Yngwie J. Malmsteen, Rob Marcello, Joe Stump and others but there is a very big difference between Heavy Metal and Neoclassical Metal.
@helloween1987 well okay, but really, I don't care. This is real music, not some crazy no-lifed satanist screaming into a mic. End of discussion, thanks!
@Lity10 its funny to see how ignorant your comment was Im not gonna argue with you cuz it has no point of arguing with somebody that expresses in that way let me be clear...Not all Metal is satanist and not all metal is screaming, inform yourself before commenting this type of non-sense type of comments at some point perjaorative in a way thanks.
@helloween1987 Look dude, I don't care what you say. Okay, maybe not all, but 80% is how I described it before. + It hurts your ears, lawl. I don't care, it's some violent shit. This is the only real music ever created.
@Lity10 The first few times you hear metal, it's hard to notice anything other than how aggressive it is. If you don't like it, you won't listen any more, and go away thinking it's nothing but loud noise. If you enjoy, or at least tolerate, the aggressive sound, you keep listening. You develop an ear for it, hear differences between songs, bands, and subgenres. Some metal bands really are noisy. Others have talent to compose and perform real music.
@dustpelt1 I don't find it insulting. After you've heard enough comments about metal, you get used to it. I find it more of a display of ignorance. People who say metal is causes violence & corruption of youth obviously don't know what they're talking about. Aggression is the most obvious quality of metal, but there's more to it, so saying it's just noise reveals a superficial hearing. Some metal bands are skilled composers, others just noisy. Metal listeners develop an ear for it.
@Lity10 If this song was played on distorted electric guitar with blast-beat drumming, would that be music? You can find Children of Bodom playing Vivaldi's Summer on YouTube. Anyway, this style was big in 1700. The best composers are the ones remembered today. Now other styles like metal have been invented, so musicians have other styles to choose from. There are talented musicians composing metal songs now, sometimes equally technical and melodic, but more aggressive.
Great harpsichord concerto, even that this part is exactly the same as sinfonia from one Bach's cantata, but instead of harpsichord there is the organ. I don't know what was first if cantata ot this concerto:-) But Bach sometimes borrowed something from him. I love Bach's music,opinion he is the greatest composer.
The BWV 146 sinfonia is not "exactly the same" as this concerto movement. There are several differences, e.g., the sinfonia adds 3 oboes parts and the left hand organ part mostly duplicates the continuo; the concerto gives the harpsichord an independent left hand part.
Both versions derive from a violin concerto.
It's not just "borrowing." It's adapting to particular circumstances.
Music is a business, aquire, deliver, perform, under pressure from customers. All great masters copied themselves, copied from other masters, inserted meaningless modulations to lengthen the pieces and to shorten composing time.
Firstly, I don't have time to debate with your bullshit. Secondly, I'm going to block you because I don't have time for jerks. I don't mind people who have different opinons about the performances I upload, but I don't tolerate people who immediately turn to insult.
LOL @ person who fails to comprehend or anything seriously musical.
Rather than have humility before a composer that you will never match in ingenuity, you just display a really bad case of diarrhea of the mouth Isosphere!
Besides, those time spots you refer on the video are great examples on how Bach was way ahead of his time... OMG why is their such epic failure from youtube posters??
Besides, even though we can't say for sure what part of any piece is a meaningless modulation, if it WERE to be in your instance (Isosphere), well Bach's unintentional fiddling turned this piece into a masterpiece - though I believe it was very much a part of the overriding theme of this piece, hardly a "meaningless modulation." LOL @ NoOb
With Bach a composition is the result of the merest motif squeezed dry like a lemon until every possibility has been exploited--better said would be what _wasn't_ Bach thinking?
love the video man
willbirful 1 week ago
I am a listener of Baroque music. I just attempted to listen to some contemporary classical music and I think I damaged my brain. I need to listen to Bach to fix my brain.
EricHaverpowell 1 month ago
Aaah Bach.
I wish I was a king back in the Baroque era.
Imagine just telling one of your subjects. MAKE ME A SONG.
And they pump out music like this.
TokeyMcGee 2 months ago 17
I'm gonna have to get more Bach
pedrovski10 2 months ago
I love how this concerto uses the usually harsh harpsichord (which I love, BTW) as the dressing on the salad which is the whole musical piece, and the strings as the "lettuce". An absolute delight. Since there were no machine shops back then, there are no aural references to the band TOOL--so much for MY metal band correlations.
riggy001 3 months ago
Bach's finger is the like bar :D
ELFAN71 3 months ago
too fast
Viplexify 3 months ago
how is metal even closely related to this.... metal is terrible.. i would say this is more related to bands like queen and muse.. not like torsofuck or whatever shitty metal bands are out there
SeaWithinASea111 4 months ago
@SeaWithinASea111 Uhh, no. Metal is extremely classicaly backed, at least some of it is. Bach is pretty much my standing point for everything I write, and I play mostly death metal besides classical. A lot of my friends who play the same stuff as me have absolutely no classical background, but I do. Muse sucks dick, Queen rocks, but seriously don't talk shit before you don't know shit.
Shredder665 3 months ago
@Shredder665 i really don't understand how how you can compare something so beautiful with something (using a metal term here) brutal. Anyway all western music has roots in classical music. I lost all respect for metal after I found grindcore/Pornogrind, horrid stuff.. and about muse.. you have obviously only heard their new stuff.. listen to more than a few songs before you judge it. (and yes I know a lot more about metal than you would think)
SeaWithinASea111 3 months ago
@SeaWithinASea111 I have listened to a lot of Muse, and I just don't care for it. Yes pretty much all music has roots in classical, but metal is the most classically influenced genre. Yes classic rock guitars like Jimmy Page or Ritchie Blackmore had major classical influence, but that's still "rock n roll." If you can't hear the classical influence in black metal or neoclassical, then you gotta be crazy. Grind is garbage though, I agree. That isn't death metal, that's fucking noise.
Shredder665 3 months ago
@SeaWithinASea111 So you've turned your back on an entire genre because you don't like a sub-genre that 98% of us metal fans also don't like?
You make lots of sense...
Markc9101 3 months ago
@Markc9101 i was just using it as an example.. but I thought it was the more brutal the better?
SeaWithinASea111 3 months ago
@SeaWithinASea111 i can see how it could be. it would be awesome if it any band could sound lik this. having a gutiar doni chords and fastly play soemthin sick like that.
nfltank55 2 months ago
Bach llueix tant com les estrelles més cristal·lines. La seva música és plena de vida, farcida d'esperances que ens il·lusionen cada dia. El clavecí d'aquest concert és inefable, però també el contrapunt de les cordes. Em quedo bocabadat. Romàntic nocturn.
Ottozimerman 4 months ago
holy shit the harpsichord parts in the this piece reflect modern day metal guitar riffs and solos even ones not considered "neo-classical". truly fascinating to study
Estranged1337 4 months ago
Michael Romeo (Symphony X) and Yngwie Malmsteen both lifted parts from this piece.
dhtmlkitchen 5 months ago
@dhtmlkitchen I was just about to say that lol
JacksonKBH 4 months ago
There is indeed some sort of link between baroque and metal. Maybe it's the hair? Ha.ha! Honestly, as a youngster, I listened to stuff like Kiss and AC/DC (and The Ramones, but that is Punk). Then I suddenly turned to Bach and Handel. Strange, right? Now I listen to a lot of classical music ( my favourites are Bach, Handel, Mozart, Beethoven and Wagner), with some Iron Maiden in between. By the way, is the painter called Caspar, or something?
achantus1 6 months ago
@achantus1 Check out Haggard its a mixture of classical and metal!
convictpanda 5 months ago
Goddang Bach is AWESOME
fat2fivek 6 months ago
BRAVO!!!
l29zen12 6 months ago
I loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee how dramatic the violins, violas, cello's and magnificent harpsichord sound. Did I miss any other instruments?
Scorpiusgrl 7 months ago
where is "winnie the pooh"?
jasandjasand 7 months ago
Superbe musique....Bach reste le maître du baroque.....Le clavecin reste un instrument méconnu et c'est dommage qu'il ai été supplanté par le piano
fanchette122 7 months ago
I feel like this is the inspiration for a lot of metal bands of today : Case in point, Emperor's "Prometheus" album
PaloAltoMetal 8 months ago
Yknow I think that if you played some of these songs at 70 RPM's youd get Touhou music.
KitsuneDzelda 8 months ago
@KitsuneDzelda ZUN is a very eclectic composer(and a very talented one), and a clear example of baroque influence is Septette for the Dead Princess.
tulkasainur 5 months ago
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First time hearing, yes Bach and baroque music sounds fantastic. But believe me, studying it makes it painful to your ears. The most complicated music.
2005smithe 8 months ago
First time hearing, yes Bach and baroque music sounds fantastic. But believe me, studying it makes it painful to your ears. The most complicated music.
2005smithe 8 months ago 6
bach at his most dramatic in a concerto
jamiebonline 10 months ago
Can I download this as an audio file?
dustpelt1 10 months ago
@dustpelt1 you tube mp3 dot org
Quiknfast 10 months ago
Alessandrini really presented a new way to perform and to hear this concerto. This recording is astonishing.
atilapf 10 months ago
imo, harpsichords and organs sounded better than pianos
Hubcool367 11 months ago
Woow...
TripleMirror 1 year ago
Sometimes when I hear a classic piece I come to think that it could sound like the heavy metal of its time ;-)) Depending on the style of course.
I do listen to heavy metal. I like many bands. But I also like classical music, A LOT! No problem in listening to both genres. But for me there is no doubt. Even if I really like AC/DC, Pantera, Rammstein, Metallica, Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Sepultura and many others it is still Bach, Vivaldi, Telemann, Händel, Mozart etc who are my greatest idols.
byf43 1 year ago
@byf43
Interesting point. There's a LOT of Bach-inspired elements in Rammstein.... maybe because they are German... but they seem to borrow counterpoint and other baroque ideas from Bach and Handel a LOT. If you listen really close to most everything they composed after "Du Hast", the amount of Bach they borrow is almost unbelievable. They also use metaphors from Goethe and probably some of Beethoven's ideas too in their songs. Rosenrot, Morgenstern, and Reise, Reise especially.
susumu07 1 year ago
@byf43 Agree with you 100%. I love Baroque as much as I love Metal. Both are complicated in their unique ways, but I find their energy so similar. If I am not listening to Bach or Vivaldi, I am listening to progressive metal. Like the bands you mention. Plus one of my new favs Meshuggah. They are profound.
Hybridhor 6 months ago
@Hybridhor I love Metal, and as you say both types of music are very complex, powerful and emotionally compelling.
tulkasainur 5 months ago
@tulkasainur This piece we are listening is profound. But when I listen to Bach, it is like hearing music for the first time. I have this experience every time I hear something from him. I am getting a tatoo of Bach on my arm. Words cannot describe the experience listening to his works.
Hybridhor 5 months ago
@Hybridhor Interesting, I didn't realize so many people listened to Baroque and Metal as I do! I think there is a connection - just listen to Yngwie Malmsteen (Caprici di Diablo), Animals As Leaders (Tempting Time), Liquid Tension Experiment / Dream Theater, maybe even Protest the Hero, and it should be easy to hear.
Intredasting 5 months ago
@Intredasting I know of the bands you speak of. Malmsteen has been a fav of mine since the late eighties. I dedicated 2 years to studying just him. Its amazing what you learn by focusing on one musician. Dedicate yourself to learning how he thinks. I actually built my own Malmsteen Strat. Rock on my brother.
Hybridhor 5 months ago
strange, the version i found was titled as a violin concerto, but I can tell you this would be a greatly challenging piece for violin.
MrViolinGuy 1 year ago
@MrViolinGuy originally this concerto was written for violin. Later, Bach for the cembalo version extended the solo voice, added harmonies in the left hand and revised it for 'virtuoso' keyboard playng.
sasperanto 1 year ago
This is one of my favorite Bach pieces.
byf43 1 year ago
@byf43 Me too!! This is also one of my most famous Bach pieces! Bach is totally wonderful!!
dustpelt1 1 year ago
For those of you saying heavy metal is not real music, or is nothing but noise, here are some metal bands that stand out in my mind for being able to compose sonically aesthetic, melodic, technical, "real" music, without losing the metal sound. Emperor (thanks Shagrachaos), Keep of Kalessin, Luca Turilli, DragonLord, Angra, Stormlord, Stormwarrior, Swallow the Sun, Twin Obscenity, Children of Bodom, Fear Factory, Mushroomhead, Iron Maiden, Graveworm, Mudvayne, Pantera, Old Man's Child, Arcturus.
kolpinj 1 year ago
@kolpinj Just end the conversation! I don't know why Bach videos are always filled with comments about metal! This does not sound at all like metal so I don't know why everybody in comparing metal with Bach! Metal is just some mad person banging on metal as hard as he can! I don't know why it is even considered music! It just hurts your ears with someone screaming into a microphone and banging stuff that don't even sound like instruments!
dustpelt1 1 year ago
@dustpelt1 Did you actually read my comments, or just see the word "metal" and fill in the rest yourself? Why do people compare classical to metal? Maybe because they have things in common. Of course, all the classical that's still around is good, survival of the fittest, and metal is so new the stuff that sucks hasn't gone extinct yet. But you speak of metal as if it's all the same. You must not have developed an ear for metal, to tell songs apart. Some is noisy & talentless, other is good.
kolpinj 1 year ago
@dustpelt1 The people comparing listen to both genres & find similarities, can recognize good music no matter what the genre is. Some metal songs have skilled composers & performers. Skill can exist anywhere. Now it's used in metal because electric guitars are in style. It's loud & aggressive, which may distract you from a song's other qualities if you're not used to metal, but if you like it enough to keep listening, you develop an ear for the rhythm, melody, etc. Listeners know it's music.
kolpinj 1 year ago
@Lity10 Actually some Metal is indeed satanistic with someone screaming into a mic but the highly technical music is easily comparable to classical music. Anyone else thinking about Emperor? Anyway this is a beautiful piece. Still searching for more classical music.
Shagrachaos 1 year ago 3
@Shagrachaos Thumbs up to you! I listen to Emperor. I like the song "Empty". A singer screaming into a mic & the aggressive sound of the instruments may grab someone's attention, but once you've been listening to metal a while you hear through that and start to notice musical and technical patterns in the notes. It's more than noise; it's well-composed music, played in a loud aggressive way. It's good to see fellow metal listeners on classical videos. Luca Turilli is another good example.
kolpinj 1 year ago
I played harpsichord first time in my life today. I'm feeling like I passed a milestone in my life.
Max0Inq 1 year ago 3
which the harpsichord was louder in the mix, i can barely hear it which is such a shame.
and for those talking about baroque heavy metal, listen to scarlatti's sonata K517, and you'll find it ;)
SirJonny97 1 year ago
Beautiful piece. Everyone should hear this one in the middle of a forest on a dark winter night. It'll leave you in awe.
geneeeeeeee 1 year ago
Why are Bach videos full of comments about metal?
deadbutfree33 1 year ago
Bach sucks Handel is awesome
falcon176 1 year ago
@falcon176 you sucks i am awesome
aghaanantyab 1 year ago
Brilliant work. I find the performance with the added ornamentation to be quite refreshing, but with the performance so "crisp", I find the slight rubatos throughout the piece to be a bit out of place. My humble opinion.
baroquegeek 1 year ago
Nice. Love Bach, his harpsichord and clavichord concertos are AMAZING. Puts you in another era, when you listen to it. lol
boofdfast 1 year ago
OMG
Averilli1 1 year ago
Saying that Bach would have preferred the modern piano not only shows a lack of interest in the music practice of his time, but also a misguided feeling of superiority towards Bach and contemporaries. It is just as silly as saying that Beethoven would have preferred the latest multi-voice synthesizer over a Steinway.
0lijfje 1 year ago
@0lijfje that is indeed a bit silly to say, cause Beethoven himself never knew a Steinway himself ;) Steinway was founded after his death, lol.
thinkermanmusic 1 year ago
@thinkermanmusic
I know, but it is amazing how many people think that Beethoven or Bach would have preferred a modern Steinway over their own instruments, which were usually the best instruments available and often built with specific demands from the composer
0lijfje 1 year ago
@0lijfje True, and in fact it's a quite useless discussion. They wrote their pieces to fit the instruments they had and knew... All the rest is speculation :)
thinkermanmusic 1 year ago
ahhhh! such a beautiful interpretation
Thak you very much
KajiXD 1 year ago
Magical
danimgpegaso 1 year ago
Bach was a genius. I adore his work. All of his creations are absolutely brilliant.
Vaterduco 1 year ago 4
Bach's harpsichord is still better than the piano.
sasinuki 1 year ago 22
@sasinuki ohh yes!
Averilli1 1 year ago
@sasinuki handel is better
95Madara95 4 months ago
yes!
so Beautiful!
Erick59841 3 months ago
This version is in Db, right?
francobrunostepmaker 1 year ago
Very interesting version of this concerto,but how could someone not like the harpsichord is beond comprehension.
7;13 is an intense bit.
eatthehat 1 year ago 3
Die Interpretation ist auch fantastisch!
PaterEngelbert 1 year ago 4
bets36
Never mind. Thumbs down ...poor souls.
I ASSURE YOU: G..Gould IS beter, much better. He is supreme. Alessandrini is just "very good"
FULL STOP.
klinsha8 1 year ago
Are you talking about plain technique? This is an harpsichord, which Gould demonstrated not to know how to play (he could have, of course, but he had other ideas...). Gould had technique, ear and imagination for polyphonic music ON PIANO, and he purposely never maintained a "scholarly" approach to baroque music, not by today's standards anyway... I'm pretty sure you are thinking about all of the dynamics graduations and nuances possible on a piano - but not on an harpsichord :-)
bersa888 1 year ago
... playing Bach on the piano is certainly possible, interesting, etc., but Bach did not imagine or think that sound when he wrote this (which was a violin concerto anyway). It would be like playing Mozart on electric guitar: possible, interesting, but not the "sound world" Mozart's music was created to live in.
bersa888 1 year ago
Bersa888,
I don't like harpsichord;and I certainly dont know what Bach would think about his pieces beeing playing in a piano.
Cheers!
klinsha8 1 year ago
Hi. Fair enough... :-)
bersa888 1 year ago
I would be foolish to think that J.S. Bach would not have preferred a modern piano to the baroque instrument. Other than for being cute, a "scholarly" interpretation of Bach serves no greater musical purpose.
Bach would have shit his pants in delight to hear Glenn Gould play his music on a Steinway D.
This certainly is wonderful, though!
fbargus 1 year ago
@fbargus :Bach was certainly flexible as far as his music and how to perform it. It should suffice to say that this was originally a violin concerto, then a harpsichord concerto, even an organ concerto (in the version for a cantata's "sinfonia"). But saying Bach would have preferred a modern piano... I don't know. Also, you would have to reconsider many factors - balance of sonorities, tuning, gut vs. nylon strings for the orchestra, range, pedaling, etc. For sure he'd change a few things ;-)
bersa888 1 year ago
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@klinsha8
G. Gould plays with a lot of sentimentality, as if he were playing for teenager, romantic girls.
"I certainly dont know what Bach would think about his pieces beeing playing in a piano."
Bach would not mind listening to his pieces being performed with a piano. But he would be horrified when listening to such a sentimentality and passion.
Baroque music is an art without sentimentality nor passion.
dani1978el 1 year ago
@klinsha8
Performances of baroque music should contain dramatism, and not sentimentality. Do you understand the difference? The usage of piano is not the reason why G. Gould performances are so horrible.
dani1978el 1 year ago
It would've been something to hear Bach himself play this.
BonesAndBones 2 years ago 5
indeed =)!
faleru 1 year ago
that´s it!- magnificent interpretation!!! thank´s for uploading!!!
baroquegenial2009 2 years ago 3
1,000,000 out of 10 stars....
TheLurker101 2 years ago 18
@TheLurker101 The whole Milky way out of 10 stars
jeyendeoso 10 months ago
Je l'ecoute 100 X et plus car c'est relaxant
Merci
Ich höre es zum 1000 X weil es beruhigend ist
Danke
I hear it for the 1000 X cuz so relaxant
Thank you
5*
louloubeb 2 years ago
Por 6:00-6:30,ya en la historia de la música y la creación ,mas allá de lo humano.¡¡¡Sublime!!!.
paradoxicus 2 years ago
I love your videos... I can't choose the best part of the song; I like all =)... I live in Guatemala... I hate not having friends like you because I don't know when to listen to baroque or classical music live, and I don't know enough about this music.
slatanbonage 2 years ago
At 6:01 the harpsichord turns notefully piano.How it's possible?
supermariozaken 2 years ago 13
Double manuel harpsichord. Top keyboard is quiter, bottom keyboard is louder.
HARMONICO101 2 years ago 12
@supermariozaken This is a Double Manual Harpsichord, as @HARMONICO101 said, but it is possible to do a slight dinamic variation on every harpsichord, without changing stops. You just have to study that (touché) - but it's quite difficult to do, and as the music of this instrument requires a different listening, it can be difficult to "modern listeners" to hear it too.
atilapf 10 months ago
6:05-6.29 so beautifull
Pratendorfer 2 years ago
4:28 is the apex of the song
TheLurker101 2 years ago
great music, nice picture you have chosen.
georgemargaris 2 years ago
AVANT GARDE!!!!!!!
Siberiaeterna 2 years ago 3
I know, right?
pookiehohn 2 years ago
i love this concert, and concert for 4 hapsichords, perfectos
Pratendorfer 2 years ago
ingenious...
maciex47 2 years ago
El ritmo "vivace",que imprime Alessandrini,permite otras lecturas de Bach.Lo siento,tempestuoso,torrencial y bello hasta salirse del marco.¡Excelente trabajo!.
paradoxicus 2 years ago
i think bach made this concerto for harpsichord because he didnt have a piano xD
faleru 2 years ago
Faleru, pianos hadn't even been invented yet.
Exodia64 2 years ago
Not true. Cristofori's "piano et forte" appeared in 1700, when Bach was a teenager. Bach tried a Silbermann piano (based on a Crisofori's design) in the 1730s, liked the tone, but complained that the action was too heavy and the high register weak. In 1747 Bach tried the new Silbermanns at the Prussian court.
But it wasn't until the 1760s that pianos started to appear in concerts and piano music began to be published in quantity.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago
I feel sorry for deaf people. They never get to experience the magic of this sort of music!
aikae20 2 years ago 37
@aikae20 What is even worse are those who have heard it and then their hearing starts to go. Beethoven must have been going MAD!
baroquegeek 1 year ago 4
@aikae20 But they get to experience the magic of television.
jeiluifang 1 year ago
@aikae20 I do think they get to experience this music's vibrations though. As they are way more sensitive than people with ears in working order.
thanat3 1 year ago
There is a vid of Paul Gilbert (1 of the worlds greatest shredders) playing like 10 secs of the intro and it still sounds brilliant. Just 10seconds....10SECONDS! Thats how awesome BACH is.
aikae20 2 years ago 3
a truly master piece :)
thanks for sharing
blazek666 2 years ago
Definatly is one of my favorite songs ever
AdmiralPrussia 2 years ago 2
This song sounds extremely epic.
Zimy0 2 years ago
Bach was mad when he wrote this or very serious, I Love It!!!
eddiemperor 2 years ago
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JOHANN SEBASTIAN BACH (1685-1750) Concerto for solo harpsichord, strings, and basso continuo in D minor BWV1052 1. Allegro Performed by Concerto Italiano Featuring Rinaldo Alessandrini, harpsichord
mammaruabagassa 2 years ago
Amazing!
StrangeFate3 2 years ago
Both harpsichord and Glenn Gould versions are great! You just have to listen to them differently. The piano and specially the way Gould plays it has much more feeling to it but harpsichord is the original sound that this was meant for. I enjoy both!
muscletease 2 years ago 5
Actually, this is based on an original violin concerto... but with Bach any arrangement is usually going to sound good or great ;-)
bersa888 2 years ago
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i prefer the concerto with piano and when glenn gould playing it
bets36 2 years ago
I don't think there is anything completely wrong with saying you prefer Glenn Gould's version. It's an opinion. Isn't that what these boxes are for? bets36 got -7? Come on guys, he didn't say this version sucked! haha.
I looooooove hearing this harpsichord and the brisk pace of this piece is very uplifting. Thanks for posting!
SCHneiDen777 2 years ago 2
Gotta love Harpsicord. =D
ThrashMan91 2 years ago 2
As I'm a complete buffoon and totally new to this kind of music, can someone tell me what BWV1052 means
Thank you
fluuuuuuuuffy 2 years ago
BWV stands for "Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis" (Bach Works Catalogue) which is the numbering system used to catalogue Bach's music. The BWV followed by a number, is the shorthand for identifying Bach's works. They are grouped thematically, not chronologically.
HARMONICO101 2 years ago 6
Cheers for that.........Could you recommend some other stuff with harpsichord for me, please?
fluuuuuuuuffy 2 years ago
Ah.....I just found BWV1052-1059 are for harpsichord
fluuuuuuuuffy 2 years ago
try the 13 inventions and sinfonias for harpsichord, the 13th invention is my favorite
gsbreath2 2 years ago
Cheers........checked them out........and the 8th is the one for me!
Although I cant stop listening to this!
fluuuuuuuuffy 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this. Beautiful. Also, and I hope this hasn't been addressed already, but what is that painting?
AGreatAmerican80 2 years ago 2
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fluuuuuuuuffy 2 years ago
It is a detail from "Winter Landscape in the Fôret de Soignes, with the Flight Into Egypt" by Denis van Alsloot painted c. 1616
HARMONICO101 2 years ago 2
Thank you, HARMONICO101. That is the answer I needed. I love this music, and the painting is beautiful.
AGreatAmerican80 2 years ago
wake up, go under shower, listen to this or one of his brandenburg concertos and you will have a good day out there...
ESMALLPANJOOL 2 years ago 2
une lecture exemplaire de ce concerto !
robynsalain 2 years ago
I could listen to this all day long! 5/5
pathsinger 2 years ago 4
This is the metal of bach's time, LET THE WIGS BURN!
captainegofantastic 2 years ago 37
hell ya
xkillallemos666x 2 years ago 2
hahaha! well put
EmbracingChaos 2 years ago
Makes you wonder what they would think of metal of our time.
...or what we will think of metal of the future.
vagitoe 2 years ago
they would probably say: fucking bullshit xD
Virussse 2 years ago
they wouldn't say much of shit, actually.
our metal would make their classical brains explode.
joegt123 2 years ago
RIP your auditory cortex
slowly poisoned by your ears
Virussse 2 years ago
@captainegofantastic I really don't get why people keep comparing Bach to heavy metal. Ok, the structure might be the same, but that's it. This is real music, not heavy metal, which, in my opinion is mostly noise. I'm pretty sure Bach wouldn't listen to that shit if he lived today.
Lity10 1 year ago
@Lity10 Agree, but heavy metal is real music too, not for everybody, but thats the good thing about music genres, you can choose what you like, but dont say that the genres you dont like are not real music.
Aristowi 1 year ago
@Lity10 Actually ppl compare Bach to Neoclassical Metal, which virtuoso guitarists are influenced mainly by Classical Music specially from Baroque Musicians like Bach or Paganini for example Yngwie J. Malmsteen, Rob Marcello, Joe Stump and others but there is a very big difference between Heavy Metal and Neoclassical Metal.
helloween1987 1 year ago
@helloween1987 well okay, but really, I don't care. This is real music, not some crazy no-lifed satanist screaming into a mic. End of discussion, thanks!
Lity10 1 year ago
@Lity10 its funny to see how ignorant your comment was Im not gonna argue with you cuz it has no point of arguing with somebody that expresses in that way let me be clear...Not all Metal is satanist and not all metal is screaming, inform yourself before commenting this type of non-sense type of comments at some point perjaorative in a way thanks.
helloween1987 1 year ago
@helloween1987 Look dude, I don't care what you say. Okay, maybe not all, but 80% is how I described it before. + It hurts your ears, lawl. I don't care, it's some violent shit. This is the only real music ever created.
Lity10 1 year ago
@Lity10 The first few times you hear metal, it's hard to notice anything other than how aggressive it is. If you don't like it, you won't listen any more, and go away thinking it's nothing but loud noise. If you enjoy, or at least tolerate, the aggressive sound, you keep listening. You develop an ear for it, hear differences between songs, bands, and subgenres. Some metal bands really are noisy. Others have talent to compose and perform real music.
kolpinj 1 year ago
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dustpelt1 1 year ago
@dustpelt1 well I don't care, let them find it insulting, it's just my opinion.
Lity10 1 year ago
@dustpelt1 I don't find it insulting. After you've heard enough comments about metal, you get used to it. I find it more of a display of ignorance. People who say metal is causes violence & corruption of youth obviously don't know what they're talking about. Aggression is the most obvious quality of metal, but there's more to it, so saying it's just noise reveals a superficial hearing. Some metal bands are skilled composers, others just noisy. Metal listeners develop an ear for it.
kolpinj 1 year ago
@Lity10 If this song was played on distorted electric guitar with blast-beat drumming, would that be music? You can find Children of Bodom playing Vivaldi's Summer on YouTube. Anyway, this style was big in 1700. The best composers are the ones remembered today. Now other styles like metal have been invented, so musicians have other styles to choose from. There are talented musicians composing metal songs now, sometimes equally technical and melodic, but more aggressive.
kolpinj 1 year ago
It's a amazing piece.I'm studying Baroque Composers so this is very helpful!!
dugspurgirls 2 years ago
Bach... Harpsichord... Life is good.
genjio 2 years ago 10
Only Bach could make a very structured, logically organized piece sound so melodic and moving...he was ahead of his time in my own personal opinion.
LegitCritic 2 years ago 5
I don't know, with that wig and all...
bersa888 2 years ago
Great harpsichord concerto, even that this part is exactly the same as sinfonia from one Bach's cantata, but instead of harpsichord there is the organ. I don't know what was first if cantata ot this concerto:-) But Bach sometimes borrowed something from him. I love Bach's music,opinion he is the greatest composer.
zaskvara 2 years ago 2
Do you know wich one is it precisely ?
Organiste06 2 years ago
BWV 146 "Wir müssen durch viel Trübsal in das Reich Gottes eingehen"
zaskvara 2 years ago
The BWV 146 sinfonia is not "exactly the same" as this concerto movement. There are several differences, e.g., the sinfonia adds 3 oboes parts and the left hand organ part mostly duplicates the continuo; the concerto gives the harpsichord an independent left hand part.
Both versions derive from a violin concerto.
It's not just "borrowing." It's adapting to particular circumstances.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago
Thank you for additional information :-)
Overall this music is GREAT!!
zaskvara 2 years ago
Oops grammatical mistake on my last post, hard to concentrate this late...at least I got Bach on
LegitCritic 2 years ago
this is the best
5600981 2 years ago
Genius is all that i can say for this.
slowframe 2 years ago
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What did bach think about 2:19, 2:35 and so on.
What a rubbish.
Isosphere 3 years ago
I think those are some of the coolest parts in the concerto frankly.
Bach NEVER did rubbish.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
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Hahaha, you have no idea.
Music is a business, aquire, deliver, perform, under pressure from customers. All great masters copied themselves, copied from other masters, inserted meaningless modulations to lengthen the pieces and to shorten composing time.
You dunno nothing.
Go, play with your Teddy Bear.
Isosphere 3 years ago
Firstly, I don't have time to debate with your bullshit. Secondly, I'm going to block you because I don't have time for jerks. I don't mind people who have different opinons about the performances I upload, but I don't tolerate people who immediately turn to insult.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
LOL @ person who fails to comprehend or anything seriously musical.
Rather than have humility before a composer that you will never match in ingenuity, you just display a really bad case of diarrhea of the mouth Isosphere!
Besides, those time spots you refer on the video are great examples on how Bach was way ahead of his time... OMG why is their such epic failure from youtube posters??
LegitCritic 2 years ago 2
Besides, even though we can't say for sure what part of any piece is a meaningless modulation, if it WERE to be in your instance (Isosphere), well Bach's unintentional fiddling turned this piece into a masterpiece - though I believe it was very much a part of the overriding theme of this piece, hardly a "meaningless modulation." LOL @ NoOb
LegitCritic 2 years ago
o.O what happend with this guy?
It have a fantastic technique, Bach it's probably the best composer for harpsichord with Rameu.
mkGarf 2 years ago
Don't forget Domenico Scarlatti!
mrgabest 2 years ago
oh i'm sorry! you are right... Scarlatti, too
mkGarf 2 years ago
With Bach a composition is the result of the merest motif squeezed dry like a lemon until every possibility has been exploited--better said would be what _wasn't_ Bach thinking?
dolofonos 2 years ago 3