Al Gore COP15 Copenhagen - Part 6

[oomblikkies]

What proof do we have that these dire predictions from computer models are correct? There is no proof, in fact they are wrong. During the Dinosaur period there were 4 to 5 times more CO2 in the atmosphere than today, but despite this, the average temperature was more or less the same as today - and on top of all this, the biodiversity was at an all time high - so no mass extinguishing of plants and animals occurred and neither was a tipping point reach regarding temperature.

[elektron2kim]

Translation: "I am the Messiah! I come to save you - however, you pay, my son and daughters, and do steel yourselves, we have more... things will get ugly.... big taxes... expensive food... starvation... death.... "

[doctorsolo]

Evo Morales mentioned "equality and votes" too, you should see his speech, and he was a bit less "politician" than Chavez.

[SeanBlader]

If he's wrong, okay so what, we spent too much money on stuff that wasn't necessary.

But what if he's right?

[amog41389]

If he's wrong we become taxed slaves that make him and the company he owns shares in, Hara, billions of dollars. If he's right, then there is nothing we can do because the sun is the main contributor of earth's climate, not Co2.

[mutantreveal]

The energy comes from the sun, but should be mostly reemitted into space. Carbon dioxide, methane, and other gases in the atmosphere trap this heat and keep it on earth, so the earth is warmed.

[TheLibertyChannel]

@SeanBlader

Well, the difference is the piggy bank doesn't stretch out to infinity. You're already in a worldwide recession; so now we're gonna stretch the piggy bank even more in the West?

Well, Goldman Sachs (and a lot of oil companies, like BP and Royal Dutch) love it, since they'll get all of your cash via the new derivatives: carbon credits.

And no, he's not right. AGW has been debunked time and time again as a deliberate fraud. Watch the Great Global Warming Swindle just for starters.

[Gosead]

Stirring speech. Glad he crescendos with his message from more "head" (scientific imperative) to "heart" (moral imperative). He's passionate -- starting to sweat around video #4 -- must be some warming in that room, hopefully the thawing of negative attitudes as well.

[axeboii]

They can be whatever you want, liars, bla, bla.

But you can´t ignore the feel that our behavior and consumism have consequences.

[RAaGRL]

Great speech, thanks for sharing.

Where are the first four parts! Want to see!

[BOSSxKOSSx]

"A life unlike they deserve" were living their right now with peole like Al Gore trying to push his agenda for complete control

Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant, dont ban those levels, bans thing like carbon monoxide thats much worse, this is complete bullshit.. you literally need atleast half a brain to see past all these lies

[Orchard6773]

You absolutely cannot believe anything this guys says. Speculation based on flimsy evidence.

It's really sad that science has been so corrupted by the left.

[mutantreveal]

Science corrupted by the left? Sorry, we're the ones who actually listen to and act on the advice given to us by climatologists and want our schoolchildren to be taught scientifically verified theories and facts, not the ones who refuse to believe the evidence in favor of anthropogenic climate change and try to have our children told that a magical dude waved his hand and created the planet in seven days.

[TheLibertyChannel]

@mutantreveal

This isn't a left/right issue, since the party right is on board with the con of global warming all over the world -- even in the US, where their *real* debate is whether certain companies will get the taxpayers cash for this con game.

And we even have BP, Exxon, Dutch Royal, and the big zombie banks like Goldman Sachs, all openly lobbying for a global carbon tax and a cap and trade (the new derivatives) scheme. People will be made *poor* to feed very clever *oligarchs*.

[mutantreveal]

@TheLibertyChannel

If they admit that it is real and human-caused, why do they refuse to do anything about it? The same science that shows it is real shows that it will cause significant problems throughout the world in upcoming decades. If major corporations support action to stop it, good for them. Sure, they'll make a profit on their investments in clean technologies, but I would rather they make a profit and climate change be less than neither.

[TheLibertyChannel]

@mutantreveal

The thing is, the whole thing is a scientific scam. The theory of man-made global warming is now supported only by the IPCC (which is, and always was, a political organization) and a very tightly knit group of a few dozen academics that work for that organization and get star-like attention in the media.

It is now known as a matter of fact (after the Climategate scandal, and others, like Glaciergate) that the data for the last IPCC report was completely forged and manipulated.

[mutantreveal]

@TheLibertyChannel You're right. They made one typo, transposing 2350 and 2035. One sentence hardly delegitimizes the entire rest of the report. The so-called "Climategate" just shows that a couple of scientists behaved badly. Yes, they behaved badly, but that does not change or invalidate all the research they've done and legitimate data they've collected.

[TheLibertyChannel]

@mutantreveal

*sigh*

No, it was not a typo. They quoted a WWF advertising bulletin, that said the Himalaya would be completely melted in 30 years. When they were finally caught at it, they made up that typo lame excuse. Business as usual. It was similar to what they did on Amazongate, quoting WWF propaganda bulletins as scientific evidence.

Climategate: no, it was not 'a couple' of scientists. It was at least four dozens of them, at Hadley CRU, NOAA, GISS/NASA. The groups running the IPCC.

[TheLibertyChannel]

@mutantreveal (cont)

And, are you kidding me...? You mean destroying decades of data, *fudging* all the data to fit their model (which included erasing the Medieval Warm Period from History, and creating that ridiculous hockey stick effect in the last decade), colluding to destroy people's careers; you really mean that was 'misbehavior'.

Oh please.

Well, get ready for poverty ('austerity') in the name of... fake changes in the weather.

In the name of *hot air*. Even that is a joke...

[TheLibertyChannel]

@mutantreveal (cont)

But even before those scandals, it was already a matter of fact that the science was completely biased and manipulated. I'd recommend you to watch 'The Great Global Warming Swindle' documentary (you'll find it on YT) -- trust me, it's worth it (though, ignore a few remarks they might make about the left - it's the science, not political partisanship, that matters).

Global warming is a political and economic agenda, dressed up as science. Like race science, during the 40s.

[mutantreveal]

@TheLibertyChannel That film is completely wrong. It has been criticized by many scientists, including several who were featured in it, used data that was out of date three years ago and is even more so today, and misrepresented positions of its opponents. Its production company even had to issue a statement apologizing for and correcting some of the errors in it.

[ryanrayonec]

Horrible actor

[mutantreveal]

@ryanrayonec

Well, that's why he's not appearing in a feature film. In a documentary, you don't need to act, just tell the truth, which he does quite well.

[ryanrayonec]

@mutantreveal You think Al Gore tells the truth quite well? That's the statement I just got from you? I wanna clarify. I'm just trying to be clear cause the way I see it this man is one of the lowest and dishonest people who has ever lived.

[mutantreveal]

@ryanrayonec

Everything he says is supported by scientific evidence. Things which have as much evidence supporting them as the things he says and no scientific evidence against them are generally true.

[ryanrayonec]

@mutantreveal You know the science of his movie included literally taking scenes from the Day After Tomorrow right? My god. It would take Lebron James 40 Mil salary 250,000 YEARS to produce what Climate Trading would make in a year. YUP no scam there. Wake the fuck up dumb ass.

[mutantreveal]

@ryanrayonec

Yeah, because nobody makes money off the system now? I don't understand all the arguments that people just want action to make money, when there are plenty of people at oil companies and coal mining companies that benefit enormously from the current system and will be hurt by any attempted remedies.

[ryanrayonec]

@mutantreveal It has NOTHING to do with making money. There is nothing wrong with making money and being successful or being right about an investment pick...there is everything wrong when you know something is a scam and you push it anyway. When you know something is a bad investment and you joke about it with others that you got stupid people to buy it. That isn't business that's felony fraud. And WOW your really really dumb...oil companies have POURED money into the carbon trading idea.

[mutantreveal]

@ryanrayonec

Some of them have, and I respect those that have much more than those that haven't.

And, you still have not provided a single shred of scientific evidence against his claims. I don't know about you, but logical people make their decisions and formulate their beliefs based on reason and evidence. He has scientific evidence supporting his point of view; you have none.

[ryanrayonec]

@mutantreveal It's funny you mention that cause I find it quite odd that many people who have mountains of evidence against this are just dismissed and anyone who has evidence for it such as AL won't debate anyone while claiming the debate is over. How can a debate be over when we never had one? We had a bunch of Hollywood movies that pushed a view point. That isn't a debate. That's mind control. Were not paying taxes to bankers cause the weather changes. The weather has always changed.

[mutantreveal]

@ryanrayonec I certainly haven't seen any logical, recent research that casts doubt on anthropogenic climate change, while it seems like new publications showing more and more evidence for it come out quite frequently. I don't really see how there hasn't been any debate on it: what do you think has been happening for the last decade and a half? What do you think we are doing right now? I don't really understand your point about movies, and, finally, weather and climate are not the same thing!

[ryanrayonec]

@mutantreveal Ok then the climate has always changed much like the weather. The earth and its distance from the Sun are never the same thus we are always going to have degrees of change in our weather and climate. Furthermore many other planets in our solar system are experiencing similar issues and obviously it isn't man made on those planets. If you don't understand my movie point you don't understand pre conditioning. Its a constant mental attack over the past 10 years.

[mutantreveal]

@ryanrayonec The climate is not related to the distance from the sun. In the Northern Hemisphere's summer, we are near our farthest point from the sun. That doesn't stop it from becoming hotter than in winter, when we are much closer. As for other planets, no other planets in the solar system have an atmosphere similar enough to earth's to draw a reasonable comparison between them.

[ryanrayonec]

@mutantreveal You tried to tell me that the sun doesn't affect the climate. Unreal. Don't write back anymore. Don't talk to me. I just wasted my time even responding to you. You have the brain of a small child. A very small child and your clearly biased. So there is no talking to a biased person.

[mutantreveal]

@ryanrayonec Yup, I admit it! My great secret is out! I'm biased. Towards...the truth. I am biased towards things supported by scientific evidence and against things which have no factual backing. Everything you have posted on here today falls into the latter category.

[ryanrayonec]

@mutantreveal What did I say that isn't reasonable? What did I say that has no factual backing? You aren't talking to a wall where you can use the same argument every time without fail and talk in circles like a lobbyist without ever actually saying anything with me. So far you've said that the sun doesn't affect the climate and you accuse me of saying things with no factual backing. Can you get a group of scientists to tell me that there is no connection between the sun and our climate?

[mutantreveal]

@ryanrayonec I didn't say that the sun has no relationship to the climate, I said that the current changes in the climate are not the result of solar activity. I cite a recently published paper showing that a 2007 publication linking solar activity with the changes in climate incorrectly analyzed the data; when correctly analyzed there is no correlation of the type which could cause the current warming.

[ryanrayonec]

@mutantreveal But we've been cooling for 9 years. How can you use the term "cause the current warming" when we have been cooling for 9 years? Explain that one Einstein.

[mutantreveal]

@ryanrayonec Can you show me any reliable source that presents evidence that we have been cooling for nine years? Because all the sources that I follow (and trust me, there's quite a number) report the exact opposite.

[ryanrayonec]

@mutantreveal Even now you say what are we doing now? NOTHING....absolutely NOTHING positive and only money grubbing in a manner in which even all of those involved admit none of these schemes (and that's exactly what they are schemes) will change our atmosphere one bit. We don't have debate now. The debate now consists of lobbyists who shouldn't even be allowed to be in a conversation cause they have only one point of view whose only argument is that the debate is over. Some debate.

[hfelt]

This tearful moment from your heart to ours is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. Gag me Al.