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  • I am very happy she was kicked because i like her solo career more than in NW ^^

    I have nothing against anette, i just don't like hearing my past favourite songs sang in that way. Its pretty much same as Tarja singing Whitesnake's Still of the Night. But it wasn't really bad, just female vocals doesn't fit that song.

  • Hmm...There is no Nightwish without Tarja, but there will be Tarja without Nightwish! Keep on singin mother of Metal :)

  • @666tedac666 I gree ^^ I just love What lies beneath.

  • weird popish style of singing of Annette.

    xP ( please notice that I did said Tarja this time lol )*

    my bad xD, making mistakes here Im sorry

  • @AFRICANMA How can we "play nice" on NW videos, when they, simply, aren't possible to listen? Anette is not amazing at all, her tries to sing old NW song are just sad ;] she killed many songs, like nemo...

    Tarja doesn't sound bad here, quality just sucks ;<

  • @TehTroj totally agree.

    NW songs are not made for Annette´s tone, and voice.

    NW songs are made more for a higher voice ( please notice I didnt said Tarja lol ) but yes a higher voice.

  • @TehTroj with Annette, NW had to low 2 or 3 tones to be at Annette´s range of voice, and still is too high, if you dont believe me, listen to Dark chest of Wonders, sang by both of them, you will notice clearly, that Annette is forcing herself to go up...when she actually cant, and her voice sounds, harsh and sharp, nothing sweet at all

  • @TehTroj Dark Chest of Wonders live btw, not recorded or studio edited lol

  • @TehTroj PLUS, that they had to change in some way the speed of some songs, and even the tone, and voice, if you still do not believe me, listen to The Siren live, you will see the gracious and sweet voice of Tarja and the harsh, weird popish style of singing.

    xP ( please notice that I did said Tarja this time lol )

  • @TehTroj Are you guys here really that fucking ignorant?

    I am a bit sad that there are really people who 6(!) years after date still bash a singer just because your seemingly favourite singer got kicked out of a band.

    Just fucking pathetic, how old are you guys, 9?

  • @TehTroj yeah totally agree... guys from Nightwish are great musicians.... and nobody can compare with them !

  • What the fuck Tarja sounds horrid, she is mostly singing out of tune......I love Tarja but this is absurd

    Also the band have no clue what they are doing.... I think fanboys/girls of Tarja Should STOP LIVING IN THE PAST AND MOVE ON

    I Love Tarja and Nightwish without her is a great loss but now they have Anette who is amazing in her on stead.

    Please get over yourselves children and play nice on Nightiwsh videos which include Anette or you will most certaintly have me trolling.

  • this song!! !is really good!!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT NIGHTWISH S BAND! WAS SO PERFECT!! MORE STRONG!

  • I dont like, it was better with the band :/

  • This may completely wrong but... is this in Hartwall Areena ???????

  • original is best*****

  • shit!!! tarja is killing the songs of nightwish she should sing only her own songs

  • @tmk290 Hey are you stupid ??? Tarja was the singer from nightwish from 1998 - 2005 !! This is her song !!!

  • @Winterrain2 you fool of course i know that, but the musicians make an bad interpretation of the song, the only thing good is tarja's voice, this wishmaster version sucks

  • @tmk290 The Nighwish band had 10 years to improve in the genere

  • @Winterrain2 Actually Tuomas (Nightwish keyboardist) has composed and made the lyrics so technically this is Tuomas Holopainen's song. But like anyone from anywhere can perform any song, thats what she is doing. But she can't record them.

  • Sounds more like Nightwish than that pathetic excuse of a band that tours now under that name...

  • this version of wishmaster sucks ;D

  • @09apophis09 fuck off nigger

  • Tarja rules, 4ever,.....

  • People should be fans of Tarja not Nightwish and she hasn't gone anywhere.

  • Seems like people forgot that it wasn't only Tuomas on those stages for all those years .. she sang those songs for a very long time she loves those songs and will continue to sing the songs she loves just as Nightwish does covers of so many other songs they love .. you all seem to love with Marco sings High Hopes or Crazy Train .. what no complaints that he shouldn't be allowed to sing Ozzy or Pink Floyd ? .. Hypocrites :P ..

  • @1991amor Amen to that, besides, only Tarja can make justice to those songs. Also, it's a gift for all the NW fans that still support her.

  • @1991amor

    Why should Marco not be "allow" to sing High Hopes?  He did an amazing cover of that song.

  • @ew913 He should be allowed to sing it he did an amazing job .. I meant that .. why shouldn't she be allowed to do the songs she loves too just like he did that song because he loved it. .. not meaning anything bad towards Marco

  • @1991amor

    Understood. I suppose I should have read the comments further back. :P I agree, if she wants to sing this song: sing girl, sing!

  • Oh my god Tarja's voice is out of this fucking world.

  • What, you arent allowed to play songs about other people? That is just absurd! If they choose not to play BBB or MPG thats fine, but not being able to play them becasue of risk for being sued is riddiculus.

  • Hmmmm thought she didn't ever want to play in smaller venues...this looks like a smaller venue to me. Guess she made a wrong decision in her life leaving Nightwish....

  • She not leave the band. Band leave her.

  • If you knew what you were talking about you'd know she had already told the band that see would leave them after their next album (the one after once). The band obviously didnt like this very much. Why keep someone do something when she clearly wants to do other things...

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  • You can rest assured that I already know these things very well... I said nothing that contradicted what you stated... But the fact the she was sad about being kicked out (or rather the way she was kicked out) does not mean that she didnt want to leave the band. She had told the band very clearly that she would be leaving them after the next album.

  • Adoro la voz de Tarja, pero no me pare que bien que cante las canciones de Nightwish, porque esas canciones no le pertenecen, y menos, sabiendo que nightwish las sigue tocando, anque sea con Anette. Pero tambien pienso que si yo fuera a un concierto de Tarja me gustaria oirla cantar los viejos temas... en fin, por lo menos podria conseguirse una mejor banda, para sonar mejor...

  • @jsconfy la banda és maravillosa! solo quien los vee ao vivo puede perceber.

    Lamiento por lo pessimo español, yo no hablo español :p eso es lo portuñol de los brasileños :p

  • no puede prescindir de las canciones de nightwish jejeje.

  • fartwish and crapnette botox suckssss muhahahaha.......

  • LOVE Tarja 4ever too <3 <3

  • i rly don't understand mrflagtube got 3 minus on his comment... he just says that both anette and tarja's great, what's wrong with that?? :O

  • thaumas is such a violent brute for firing her and doing it in a public letter.

    not to mention how fool he is to be left with a silly eurovision band now.

  • WOW...I understand people really want to hear Tarja sing these songs, but hearing her sing these songs now without the origional band just seems wrong and a little inconciderate somehow. Especially, after she really wanted her own career.

    These are Tuomas' creations and well, I can certainly see cover bands playing them but not Tarja. It just seems, I don't know...distasteful!

  • Ummm, i think it's alright because she made Nightwish popular, the band members themselves know that. She has earned the right to sing these songs, in my opinion.

  • im not sure if it was just her that made the band popular.... But she certainly did have a part to play in the bands success....

    However, i do agree that these are Tuomas' pieces. and that if she can sing these pieces, then Nightwish should have the right to play Master Passion greed and Bye Bye Beautiful Live again..

  • "then Nightwish should have the right to play Master Passion greed and Bye Bye Beautiful Live again.. " I didn't understand that bit... Are you saying they don't play them anymore? And why is that anyway? You got me confused here...

  • Nightwish cannot play Master Passion Greed Live because of Marcello, Tarja's Husband. He will Sue them if they do. Because he knows that it is about him.

    Nightwish Does not play Bye Bye Beautiful live anymore simply because of the fact that it is regarding the Dismissal of Tarja Turunen from the band. Therefore they did not play it live on the last portion of their Dark Passion Play, Deja Vu Tour. they USed Seven Days to the Wolves as their intro piece instead of Bye Bye

  • Oh i didn't know that... Too bad... But that'll teach them to stop talking shit behind their backs and creating more unnecessary drama. That's just my opinion.

  • they did actully stop with bye bye beautiful because they felt that it was unnessesery to offend that many ppl and they knew that marcelo wanted to sue them but according to what i've heard tarja was against that...

    btw they've never played master passion greed live

  • yea u're absolutly right that she made NW popular but still without NW she wouldn't have been anything either...

    it's the mix with their music and her vocals that led to their succes =)

  • Anette is great, Tarja is great. New songs are good as old ones. I dont whant to comment on you becouse thah wouldn't be nice...

  • i love you!!! TARJAAA FOREVER....

  • you go Tarja your the best f*ck anette and popwish.

  • Crapnette & Popwish... Hahahahaha

  • theheh :) you should see my comments on I Walk Alone lol :)

  • wellllllll there's alson Fartwish :)

  • That's a good one!!!

  • Great. Tarja rules!  XD

  • I don't know how Tuoman can destroy his own songs letting Anette sing its...

    The world is crazy ^^

  • I'm not saying anything against tarja, I guess NW had choose wrong singer... too bad for tarja and nw

  • I express bad myself ^^ I don't like old Nightwish songs with the new singer's voice but I don't like Tarja to sing it again... I prefer she sing her own songs, sometimes I think they both are ancled in the past...

  • I love Marco Hietala and Tarot, I think he is the best singer in the world after Dio, but Tarja Is better alone, now she can be her self, her singing is so much better and more personal sound now. After nobody remember anymore nightwish, Tarja Turunen will be better and better every year! Im so happy for her!

  • Tarja is the best, she dont need a band, she is the band!!!! and now nightwish no longer will play these songs in conserts, they understand now, these songs can be sing only by Tarja!!!!!!

  • Anette is good

    but Tarja is God ops Goddess =D

  • Zum Glück macht sie " wenigstens " ihr eigenes Ding.....!! IL T!

  • maybe anette cant sing this song, but wishmaster without nightwish!?!?!?!?!?! nooooo! I dont like it, jukka! emppu! Marco! Tuomas! Wishmaster is nothing for me without them

  • Tarja sings better now then NW  Anette SUCKS !!!

  • Que buena que es Tarja en vivo !!!!! Las veces que la vi quedé ALUCINADO !!!

  • they are not in a "tempo" because it's a video, and videos get like that sometimes.

    it wasn't playback.

  • make sense.

    But i know producer that do that. Not the band. I do NOT think NW are capable of doing that.

  • If it was playback the drums wouldnt sound like shit. Idiot ;D

  • amazing..compared to anette.

  • who´s anette? (me being sarcastic)

  • Then you had the dream about there's no Tarja = Nightwish is over but you fail, and the opposite happens TARJA was FIIIIREEEED before that happens and there's Velvet Revolver old G&R doing interesting things and in the other hand a poor and fat Axl making ridiculous trying to sing in low tunes to get the note ahh by the way you didn't told me if you want the Music Theory book to stop saying lies about your "RANGE" thing, and I'm glad you've understood DIVA thing thank you (Y)

  • She will need Nightwish songs for a long time, but Nightwish not, because they are creating new sounds with the new singer different but at last new sounds for the band, It's sad because they could be much more big than they are now, but the DIVO shit of the singers make this cases, there are many examples: Tarja, Axl (Guns), etc. but sorry for them, at the end the band always last.

  • "DIVO shit of the singers make this cases, there are many examples: Tarja, Axl (Guns), etc. ."

    The only diva in NW is Tuomas, Tarja has always been down to earth and warm to the fans.

    And BTW it's DIVA, not DIVO.

    Axl Rose used to not show up for concerts or fall off the stage because he was so drunk or messed up on drugs. Tarja has NEVER ONCE done anything like that, so for you to say that about her makes you a lying bastard and a fool.

  • Oh here's another one who thinks that the only diva in NW is Tuomas. They are nothing without Tarja. Just an ordinary band. I would even say pop band and the shit Tuomas writes now could never compare to Wishmaster

  • In Russian word "Divo" means "miracle". So I guess it suits Tarja well :)

  • "Axl (Guns), but sorry for them, at the end the band always last"

    BTW, there IS no Guns and Roses without Axl Rose. They may have tried to go on without him but failed. They are now back together WITH Axl but without Slash.

  • She is much more better live than in the studio:-) I love her voice. I visited her concert and it was one of the best concerts I´ve ever visited...

  • It never made those passages in NW, because hara now, because dara tells that without the magic of Nw. it is not much. I recommend to him that it must coordinate its movements for a diffuse mixture

  • Tarja is sooooo amazing id give anything to see her live. Any1 no if shes coming to england, near buckinghamshire anytime soon? lol

  • I really love the hair... I've heard her live, she is really amazing, much better than with NW... whole concert was sold out very fast here, I was surprised by her simplicity.. Tarja is certainly no diva, she just enjoys everything she's doing now and she is good at songwriting. "Oasis" is the saddest song in the world...

  • it looked like she put a blonde streak in her hair, at first I thought it looked that way when the light hit it. she looks and sounds amazing!

  • i was thereeeee 3 feet in front of her all the time! :P

  • Sigue necesitando de las canciones de Nightwish ...

  • I am in agreement with you for that coat that ample CD, furthermore tally almost never live song when it was in Nightwish and finally tally this movimiendo itself but, something that it did never it in NW

  • asi como nightwish necesita de su voz potente y super afinada para ser lo que algun dia fue nightwish

  • ya que la magia de esta canción con NW se fue al cañoooo con fatanette que la cante ellaaaaaa

  • todas las camaras para ella como siempre grande tarja !!!

  • i think it is awesome that tarja is still allowed to sing old nightwish stuff, cz anette just doesn't pull it off. she has a good voice for the new stuff but not the old.

  • Agreed!....

    may 8th in hollywood!!! see you there beautiful!

  • Nightwish's Wishmaster WITH Tarja is the best; this song isn't the same without Nightwish but expecially it is not the same in Nightwish without Tarja!

    Anyway ;; TARJA IS FOREVER! :)

  • NW without Tarja is like Tarja without NW...but they will be back before the end complete! Dark Rift 2012

  • forgive my ignorance, but what is dark rift 2012??

  • It's the end of the world coming in Dec 2012---the great galactic alignment and moajor destruction/devastation. but before that we have First Horseman, June 2009= Pestilence

  • That's from Mayanism...and Revelation isn't it? Well I guess it could happen then, but Mark 13:32 says "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." so, I don't think anyone can really know the exact date for a fact.

  • I appreciate a lot your answer. However, if you SEARCH for the TRUTH sincerely, don't limit yourself to one source. You will KNOW when you find truth. Matthew says somewhere that we will KNOW when the end is near, from the signs...The signs are all around us. Pestilence is the first horseman. They are digging mass graves in Arizona, Texas, LA....Keep an open mind, research...God bless you...

  • I agree with everything you just said, I'm just hesitant to tie it down to a particular date. Thanks, I also appreciate what you have said.

  • Keep your eyes, ears and soul opened...God bless you.

  • Like "Dark Symphonica" I think Wishmaster without NW .. that's not Wishmaster :/

  • wishmaster.... without nightwish.....

    i don't know.., I don't like it at all :S

    it's only my opinion

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  • great spong....too bad the sound kept getting worse and worse on the recording as it went on.

  • Oceansoul48: completely agree with you. She makes this one, Nemo, Passion and the opera,she hasn´t dignity.

  • Agree with you.

  • well ppl she sings because t he old fans wants to hea r her sing the old songs so fuck you

  • I think Wishmaster is only Tarja song in some way ans she sing it the best, doesen't matter with Nightwish or now. Anette is the one who shouldn't even try it

  • I love both Tarja and Anette!!<3

    But for singing Wishmaster, Tarja is the best!

  • is this true wishmaster?

  • She ROCKS!And she is so much better than Anette!

  • I think is a good thing that Tarja don't stop to sing the Nightwish's songs, because if I want to see nightwish, I go to a teir concert, but if I want to ear the old-nightwish's songs live, I must have the possibility to ear the original, with the Tarj'as voice.

    Well, i don't know if you can understand me, and I'm sorry if my english sucks: I'm italian.

  • Sì, si capisce. : )

    Sono d' accordo con te, l' unica cosa che mi fa storcere il naso è che marcia un pò su questo fatto, e del suo nuovo album mi è piaciuto ben poco... La band che suona con lei è comunque qualcosa di obbrobrioso... L' inizio d' assolo a fine video la dice lunga.

    Fatto sta che è Tarja, e la sua voce è fantastica, nessuno può negarlo.

  • are you an idiot?.its because she is the attraction and the other guys is hired musicians.i never heard that she wanted more money then the other guys,just more money.people can sing whatever song they want but cant record or release whitout permicion.

  • Every coin has two sides... and Tarja, Tuomas, and Emppu created Nightwish, so the fact is that she is singing a thing that she helped to create. I'm a Nightwish fan and my favourit album is Oceanborn, but now Nightwish are not able to perform those old songs live well(only Sacrement of wilderness is performed properly). If I want to see those songs live its good that at least Tarja continues to perform them well, (but of course I prefer them together, they were both better!) Good luck to both!

  • I kinda thought Tarja broke up from the band and this singer named Annete joined

  • vittu mikä surkee helvetin högfädig vitun lehemä

  • She also sings Bye,Bye beautiful ?

  • no!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • You see, I have nothing against Tarja, but nightwish and her was never really melting together, Tuomas was complaining that he must adapt compositions to Tarja's opera style, and Tarja wanted to make different music, and before all a solo carrier, and now she make nightwish bis, strange.

    I agree, if Yoko Ono and Marcello meet at the right moment, music world would look different.

  • I can't Agree... I think Tarja and Tuomas were as you say "melting together" until Tarja got married with Marcello. Coincidence or not, the songs after Century Child were all extremely easy to Tarja's voice.

    But it was in fact beacuse of Her voice that Nightwish left the idea of being an Acousting project! So even not composing the songs she also created Nightwish sound by adapting her vocal technic to the metal sound! Their Old sound remains unique because yes they really melt together!

  • You may be totaly right,

    but I think that Tuomas was somewhere, let us say, not so happy about this restriction what was Tarja's voice, but the success was there.

    He told in an interview that he think that if they start with Anette and changed after this to Tarja, situation was much worser.

    Tarja was always walking near the red line, and then she crossed. The result was separation.

  • "He told in an interview that he think that if they start with Anette and changed after this to Tarja, situation was much worser."

    much worse?? how??

    where did you see that??

  • tarja and tuomas "melting together" get real, he even didn't respect her: firing her like that, like a coward! tuomas's "love" can be poison!better without it!

  • are you stupid bye bye beautiful is of the idiot of annete sing horrible,go out nightwish

  • me da mucho gusto de que tarja cante estas magnificas canciones lo que fue NW y lo que es ahora definitivamente NW se va a pique no pensaron en su futuro sin tarja componer una cancion lo hace cualquiera tocar una guitarra hay muchos buenos gutaristas teclado y demas por igual NW bajo enormemente de categoria tarde ho temprano las personas se cansan hay muchas bandas mejores que ellos ahora mismo como epica within temptation y la misma tarja NW se va a caer si no hacen algo pronto

  • the drummer sux hardcore ^^ hes nothing like Jukka

  • this is tarja with nightwish?

  • no oooooo, is she alone

  • i love tarja ,, but i really dislike she sings Touma's property ,,,i mean,,, she copy nightwish esence ,, without have her own!

    sad Tarja! ;(

  • shut up she sing this song because she know her voice is better than annete, the song is famous when tarja sing it, tuomas is an idiot

  • Does anybody know if she has the right to sing NW's songs???I mean,is she allowed by Tuomas Holopainen,the composer?

  • ahm.. if she wouldn't have rights, she wouldn't sing the songs.^^ Tarja isn't stupid.

  • i think the right is not sing NW songs, the rigt is that she can't record them!!! there is no proble if she sing them!!! sorry for bad english

  • De acuerdo con sway7958! Qué demonios se cree? Las canciones son de Nightwish, no suyas! Si su nuevo cd apesta, que arme otro...

  • en realidad NW era NW más por ella que por los demás, además Tarja estaba en la banda cuando estas canciones fueron creadas por el antiguo NW por lo que en parte tiene cierto derecho sobre ella por el hecho de haber sido mienbro en ese momento!!!

  • ella puso la melodia de la voz y le dio esencia a la rola... y los derechos de NW son de todos los miembros que estaban cuando la rola fue creada...

    si bien la base de la musica y la letra es de Tuomas los otros musicos pusieron su pedazo...

  • well good to c tarja stickin wiv the old songs but u cant do it wivout the rest of nightwish jus loses the feelin

  • and for her it was not a priority as for the rest of the band,for her it was just a job....si liked her,but she changed,she became some bitchy 'diva'

  • YOU SUCK n00b

  • who is alice cooper? :D

  • lol

  • shut up stupid

  • not her best - then again her live singing will always be better than anette's

  • So much better than Anette but it would be so much better in old times..

    *sighs*

  • oh my god she sounds bad here...

  • I think it's so UNFAIR that Tarja sings Nightwish songs!! She has solo career and she shouldn't use Tuomas talent to do it!

  • She is the original singer on the songs, and she obviously is a fan of them and toumas's talent.

  • Tuomas USED Tarjas talant in EVERY song he created so I thinks its just FAIR that Tarja sings 4 out of 66 songs she was a part of!...Se it like this their would not have been ONE singe song like the ones Tuomas have made for Tarja with another singer at the start from 1996