tyler's vioce is more versatile, is more poewrfull, you can count more than 3 diferent tipes of vioce in steven's voice.... tyler can sing dream on!! today in 2011!! in his 60's, tyler sang dream on in american idol of this year.....
I'll tell you exactly what's up with the vocal differences here. A good majority comes down to style but there are shortcomings in tyler's technique here. First off, Plant sings the intro (AW-A-A) in a low falsetto, it's actually a bit hard to hit on the head because most rock and roll singers (especially american ones) think of the falsetto to be used in a higher place in their range. One thing that was particularly great about Plant was that he knew when and where to apply falsetto,
@JimMacabre even if it was below the range that he could hit with his chest voice. His chest and head voice overlap in a sweeter spot than Tyler and you know, I'm almost sure that Tyler realized this as soon as he picked up the piece. He pulls off the rest of the song fine, save some diction and meter problems. As for the rest of the band, Kramer... well on the first take he totally blew it on the beat. This beat is famous for being a musical palindrome, it's played the same backwards as it is
@JimMacabre forwards. He eventually did get it down. Overall I feel that Jimmy Page should be the only guitarist on this song because with 2 extra guitarists it gets muddy and they can't seem to play to Jimmy's rhythm with the kind of hair precision one would need to make it sound great. On the bright side, Tyler is one of the few people who could come close to covering the song with any kind of accuracy.
@axltyler Heh, that all depends on what year of Robert Plant's life we're talking about here. 1969-1973 he most definitely could, his range was a bit bigger than Steven Tyler's, clocking out at about... I believe A6 during a live recording. That's hearsay though, it's hard to find hard evidence of that. Here is what makes "Dream On" so difficult. I am in a Led Zeppelin cover band, and unlike a lot of the wannabes I actually do know my stuff. I first heard Dream on when I was about 6 years old,
@axltyler and I have always wanted to sing it. However I have not actually put any effort into that until recently. The song "Dream On" is in F minor, which is a difficult key to sing in for many vocalists. Tyler had done his homework with the arrangement on that one. And the scream, dream on, dream on, dream on, A-HA-A-HA-HA-HA-A-HA-HA-A, is just in a bit of a spot in the range that is difficult to do. But if you had given plant the piece in the years I mentioned I would argue he would do it
to the people complaining about steven voice im just going to say this:steven tyler is still out there rocking with an amazing voice and he is 60 something,while robert plant..where the hell is he? after 1980 he couldnt even perform this song the way he did in the studio. btw im not hating on robert plant cuz im a huge zeppelin fan and i loved robert plant's voice and he was a crazy good frontman but u cant critize steven fucking tyler (rock legend)for doing the best cover ive seen of his song
es un destrozo de la canción original. la guitarra de page sigue igual, pero el tragabolas de steve no se aproxima mínimamente al espíritu y tempo que le daba plant, es simplemente una versión peor, y como se dice: si la madre está buena tirate a la madre.
@camilo0825. Parece que alguien no ha cagado bien hoy. Para empezar te (te trato de tú porque no me mereces ningún respeto para usar el usted) diré que para poder llamarme inculto primero deberías aprender a ESCRIBIR. En las escuelas enseñan lenguaje y ortografía. Matricúlate en una y dejarás de ser un analfabeto. EDUCACION también enseñan en los colegios, te vendría bien aprenderla. Eso de saludar insultando sin más muy educado no es. Te recomiendo que tomes un laxante, a ver si cagas.
@camilo0825 Claro, claro...tus argumentos son buenísismos: insultar y descalificar. ¿Y tánto me conoces para valorar mis conocimientos músicales?. Mejor dejémoslo porque es verdad, no vale la pena cruzar comentarios con semejante pedazo de escoria (insultar es muy fácil, ¿ves?). Vete a pajearte con los monos del zoo, a ver si descargas tensión con animales de tu nivel (lo siento por lo monos).
neither Plant could sing this song. After 1970 he couldnt sing immigrant song and communication breakdown. After 1980 he couldnt sing none of his songs in the same tone as in studio. And think about this. Steven and Robert are the SAME age, how was roberts voice at 1990?????? Aerosmith boom was almost with Crazy Amazing etc. those songs were with a 45 years old Steven ... theres a lot of credit for his voice...
I'd say Immigrant Song/Communication Breakdown lost much of its effectiveness after '71 (in terms of Plant's vocals). Although, '72 did produce some strong versions. However, I do agree that by 1980 his tone of voice was significantly different.
@mnunezper robert cudnt sing it after the 72 tour becaue he had vocal surgery, not becaus tyler is better, robert never had a vocal coach or proper training or warming up techniques, get off his back
@mnunezper plant is a true chest vocalist , and in the days of early led Zeppelin, he would sing up to 3 hours show, back then there was no sound monitors fall back for the singer;s just side fills. so long shows to many nights on. night after night.this makes it very hard for a singer to hold on to there voice , the tone and the key are very high , no one could hold a note like Robert. Steve him self has said there's only one Robert plant, but still Steve has done a nice job here . cheers
jajajajajajajaja... Me suda la polla quién canta mejor pero Tyler se podría haber buscado otra canción más acorde a su voz. Lo hace como el culo. Y lo más gracioso es que tuvo que ir Page a enseñarles como se toca la guitarra...patético.
jajajajajaaaa....me parto!!!!. ¿Ves como al final hasta me das un poco la razón?...además, el primero has sido tú. Y no hace falta que me mandes privados, a nos ser que lo hagas con poco más de educación. Hala, a calmarse un poquito por Venezuela.
Así mucho mejor. Me parece muy bien que Aerosmith se arriesgase con una canción tan difícil como "Inmigrant Song" pero les quedó muy mal. Y Plant ya la cagó cantando el Innuendo de Queen en el concierto homenaje...la canción le pega a la voz pero se le ovido la letra al patán...a seguir escuchando buena música.
Claro. Cada artista tiene que amoldarse a lo que tiene y sabe. Ya lo dijo Kurt Cobain: Jamás podré tocar la guitarra como Andrés Segovia (padre del renacer de la guitarra clásica) pero seguro que a Segovia jamás se le habría ocurrido tocar como lo hago yo...
@manowardia plant es uno de los mejores front man de la historia del rock. no es q lo defienda solo pienso q el esta entre los primeros tres. steve fue gran front man pero plant fue unico y si el la rego al cantar algo de queen . solo freddie puede hacer eso, los 3 mejores son elvis , freddie y robert plant.
@manowardia que persona tan inculta y patetica es usted, esto no es una cancion de reggaeton que me imagino usted esta acostumbrado a escuchar estoy es muy dificil y requiere de entrenamiento era obligatorio que alguien con todo el conocimiente de la cancion estubiera presente,
shit...i am willing to pay just to hear them rehearse..steve tyler is flicken talented
TzzX78 3 days ago
tyler's vioce is more versatile, is more poewrfull, you can count more than 3 diferent tipes of vioce in steven's voice.... tyler can sing dream on!! today in 2011!! in his 60's, tyler sang dream on in american idol of this year.....
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Rebelshockey19 7 months ago
Don't forget that Robert Plant had to sing the highest notes in falsetto, Steven didn't and still doesnt ;) mostly
kalleskit 9 months ago
I'll tell you exactly what's up with the vocal differences here. A good majority comes down to style but there are shortcomings in tyler's technique here. First off, Plant sings the intro (AW-A-A) in a low falsetto, it's actually a bit hard to hit on the head because most rock and roll singers (especially american ones) think of the falsetto to be used in a higher place in their range. One thing that was particularly great about Plant was that he knew when and where to apply falsetto,
JimMacabre 9 months ago
@JimMacabre even if it was below the range that he could hit with his chest voice. His chest and head voice overlap in a sweeter spot than Tyler and you know, I'm almost sure that Tyler realized this as soon as he picked up the piece. He pulls off the rest of the song fine, save some diction and meter problems. As for the rest of the band, Kramer... well on the first take he totally blew it on the beat. This beat is famous for being a musical palindrome, it's played the same backwards as it is
JimMacabre 9 months ago
@JimMacabre forwards. He eventually did get it down. Overall I feel that Jimmy Page should be the only guitarist on this song because with 2 extra guitarists it gets muddy and they can't seem to play to Jimmy's rhythm with the kind of hair precision one would need to make it sound great. On the bright side, Tyler is one of the few people who could come close to covering the song with any kind of accuracy.
JimMacabre 9 months ago
@JimMacabre Tyler's falsetto is preferable to Plant's. Can you imagine plant singing Dream On? That would be God awful.
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@axltyler Heh, that all depends on what year of Robert Plant's life we're talking about here. 1969-1973 he most definitely could, his range was a bit bigger than Steven Tyler's, clocking out at about... I believe A6 during a live recording. That's hearsay though, it's hard to find hard evidence of that. Here is what makes "Dream On" so difficult. I am in a Led Zeppelin cover band, and unlike a lot of the wannabes I actually do know my stuff. I first heard Dream on when I was about 6 years old,
JimMacabre 9 months ago
@axltyler and I have always wanted to sing it. However I have not actually put any effort into that until recently. The song "Dream On" is in F minor, which is a difficult key to sing in for many vocalists. Tyler had done his homework with the arrangement on that one. And the scream, dream on, dream on, dream on, A-HA-A-HA-HA-HA-A-HA-HA-A, is just in a bit of a spot in the range that is difficult to do. But if you had given plant the piece in the years I mentioned I would argue he would do it
JimMacabre 9 months ago
@axltyler just as well if not better than Tyler. Of course, that didn't happen, so we have nothing but speculation on the matter.
JimMacabre 9 months ago
thats right jimmy.show 'em how its done
RickyRocker821 10 months ago
this is called music.period
RickyRocker821 10 months ago
to the people complaining about steven voice im just going to say this:steven tyler is still out there rocking with an amazing voice and he is 60 something,while robert plant..where the hell is he? after 1980 he couldnt even perform this song the way he did in the studio. btw im not hating on robert plant cuz im a huge zeppelin fan and i loved robert plant's voice and he was a crazy good frontman but u cant critize steven fucking tyler (rock legend)for doing the best cover ive seen of his song
gaby47 11 months ago
Wow! Jimmy Page!
Adragon1 1 year ago
es un destrozo de la canción original. la guitarra de page sigue igual, pero el tragabolas de steve no se aproxima mínimamente al espíritu y tempo que le daba plant, es simplemente una versión peor, y como se dice: si la madre está buena tirate a la madre.
mojivince 1 year ago
If anyone could cover this song properly..it is Steven Tyler!! Awesome.
MrPageyzoso 1 year ago 2
es dificil acomodar la voz a la cancion que va con otra voz, es como si pusieran a robert plant a cantar crazy o dream on :/
camilo0825 1 year ago
@camilo0825. Parece que alguien no ha cagado bien hoy. Para empezar te (te trato de tú porque no me mereces ningún respeto para usar el usted) diré que para poder llamarme inculto primero deberías aprender a ESCRIBIR. En las escuelas enseñan lenguaje y ortografía. Matricúlate en una y dejarás de ser un analfabeto. EDUCACION también enseñan en los colegios, te vendría bien aprenderla. Eso de saludar insultando sin más muy educado no es. Te recomiendo que tomes un laxante, a ver si cagas.
manowardia 1 year ago
@manowardia Un critico sin argumentos, que basura de persona, no vale la pena hablar con alguien que no sabe de musica.
camilo0825 1 year ago
@camilo0825 Claro, claro...tus argumentos son buenísismos: insultar y descalificar. ¿Y tánto me conoces para valorar mis conocimientos músicales?. Mejor dejémoslo porque es verdad, no vale la pena cruzar comentarios con semejante pedazo de escoria (insultar es muy fácil, ¿ves?). Vete a pajearte con los monos del zoo, a ver si descargas tensión con animales de tu nivel (lo siento por lo monos).
manowardia 1 year ago
@manowardia que tipo tan ridiculo. Aparte repite lo que digo, Valla y busquese una vida social.
camilo0825 1 year ago
Jimmy was sporting a double chin those days and a small belly.
That happens when you quit the drugs
dockaiser 2 years ago
pero este es el ensayo, acaso han la escuchado en el concierto?
sueellen360 2 years ago
Steven Tyler's new vocal style (post 1985) ruined this version.
mayhembiff 2 years ago
neither Plant could sing this song. After 1970 he couldnt sing immigrant song and communication breakdown. After 1980 he couldnt sing none of his songs in the same tone as in studio. And think about this. Steven and Robert are the SAME age, how was roberts voice at 1990?????? Aerosmith boom was almost with Crazy Amazing etc. those songs were with a 45 years old Steven ... theres a lot of credit for his voice...
mnunezper 1 year ago 15
@mnunezper
Amen
suicacrobatdude 1 year ago
@mnunezper
I'd say Immigrant Song/Communication Breakdown lost much of its effectiveness after '71 (in terms of Plant's vocals). Although, '72 did produce some strong versions. However, I do agree that by 1980 his tone of voice was significantly different.
Grubbsy 1 year ago
@mnunezper led zeppelin performed immigrant song until 1972 .
rudebjamaican 10 months ago
@mnunezper robert cudnt sing it after the 72 tour becaue he had vocal surgery, not becaus tyler is better, robert never had a vocal coach or proper training or warming up techniques, get off his back
fobfan35 7 months ago
@mnunezper No, google your dates. Robert Plant is 6-8 years older than Steven Tyler. I love it cuz Page is
playing with them.
Wish Zep would get Roger Daltry to sing leads, as Plant obv. doesn't want to play w/Zep & Page anymore.
Thanks for this upload!
wjv4me 6 months ago
@wjv4me Robert and Steven are without a doubt the same age...
RainSong1973 5 months ago
@wjv4me both have the same age
niralirishi 2 weeks ago
@mnunezper robert kills his voice by singing/screaming so high...
BlackMastaBlack 5 months ago
@mnunezper there's still a lot of credit for his voice,
AspergirlSithstress 5 months ago
@mnunezper nah plant sang it live in 1972 and it was fiiiiine mahn...
thekaiserindahouse 4 months ago
@mnunezper plant is a true chest vocalist , and in the days of early led Zeppelin, he would sing up to 3 hours show, back then there was no sound monitors fall back for the singer;s just side fills. so long shows to many nights on. night after night.this makes it very hard for a singer to hold on to there voice , the tone and the key are very high , no one could hold a note like Robert. Steve him self has said there's only one Robert plant, but still Steve has done a nice job here . cheers
jimmycupples 4 months ago
Sí, así es, aunque odio que estos excelentes artistas hayan terminado vendiéndose como putas....
killingracists 2 years ago
GOOD!!
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manowardia 2 years ago
jajajajajajajaja... Me suda la polla quién canta mejor pero Tyler se podría haber buscado otra canción más acorde a su voz. Lo hace como el culo. Y lo más gracioso es que tuvo que ir Page a enseñarles como se toca la guitarra...patético.
manowardia 2 years ago
En eso podría estar de acuerdo contigo...sin embargo...no dejas de ser un gillipollas!!
killingracists 2 years ago
jajajajajaaaa....me parto!!!!. ¿Ves como al final hasta me das un poco la razón?...además, el primero has sido tú. Y no hace falta que me mandes privados, a nos ser que lo hagas con poco más de educación. Hala, a calmarse un poquito por Venezuela.
manowardia 2 years ago
Mmmm...está bien, tío, sin rencores!!
killingracists 2 years ago
Así mucho mejor. Me parece muy bien que Aerosmith se arriesgase con una canción tan difícil como "Inmigrant Song" pero les quedó muy mal. Y Plant ya la cagó cantando el Innuendo de Queen en el concierto homenaje...la canción le pega a la voz pero se le ovido la letra al patán...a seguir escuchando buena música.
manowardia 2 years ago
Jajjajajaja...cierto, quería patear al muy cabrón...pero hay que admitir que es una leyenda también!!
killingracists 2 years ago
Claro. Cada artista tiene que amoldarse a lo que tiene y sabe. Ya lo dijo Kurt Cobain: Jamás podré tocar la guitarra como Andrés Segovia (padre del renacer de la guitarra clásica) pero seguro que a Segovia jamás se le habría ocurrido tocar como lo hago yo...
Los experimentos con Coca-Cola y Mentos...
manowardia 2 years ago
@manowardia plant es uno de los mejores front man de la historia del rock. no es q lo defienda solo pienso q el esta entre los primeros tres. steve fue gran front man pero plant fue unico y si el la rego al cantar algo de queen . solo freddie puede hacer eso, los 3 mejores son elvis , freddie y robert plant.
cac1987fcb 1 year ago
@manowardia que persona tan inculta y patetica es usted, esto no es una cancion de reggaeton que me imagino usted esta acostumbrado a escuchar estoy es muy dificil y requiere de entrenamiento era obligatorio que alguien con todo el conocimiente de la cancion estubiera presente,
camilo0825 1 year ago
Beautiful. Steven had a couple rough spots though
Polystant 2 years ago 7
@Polystant yes, but he sings in full voice, not like Robert Plant :)
keithandmick 6 months ago