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  • 0:28 one of these kids is not like the other. One of these kids is white! Also epic grammar fail, what? Did an Aboriginal kid write that out for you?

  • Why is there always problem with the education for aboriginal people or minority in places ruled by white people, e.g. Australia, Canada, USA, where the whites are majority.

    But if the whites are minority during the colonial, e.g. Malaysia, Hong Kong, India, there is no problem with their education.

    Just asking......

  • @0Zolrener0 lmao you're a world or warcraft geek. Get out of the house, get off the computer and go and get a job yourself NERD. Hahaha seeing your channel has made my day hahahahhahaha you're hilarious you racist, immature, ignorant Nerd!

  • @0Zolrender0 I must say though that the amount of white drugo f**ks that I see that don't have jobs and bludge off centrelink their whole lives must mean that ALL white Australians are like that...at least according to the way you see the world. Wake up to yourself, there are just as many bludging white derros. As for me getting a job I have one idiot I graduated from university with honours and I am employed full time and by the sounds of things I'm far more intelligent than You!!

  • @0Zolrender0 I am not denying that Australia would have been discovered no matter who by and sure things could have been worse but that still doesn't make it right. I also do not agree with Aboriginal people blaming the current generations in Australia and being racist towards us. Racism is ignorance.

  • They need more government support??They get free houses, health care, education & income all courtesy of australiahn tax payers. They get a house, they trash it, & then they just get another 1 (free of charge). Almost none of them have jobs, and the income they get (from taxpayers) is all gone in 1 night after a trip to the bottle shop. Their health care (paid 4 by taxpayers) is free 4 them & they rock up in the hospital every 2nd night almost dead from all the alcohol theyve drunk.

  • you also cannot put indigenous and education in the same sentance. coons bludge and dont work. they will never work and are allergic to work. they steal rob and bludge. i see it all every day in my town. those in cities never ever see the way it really is so dont talk about what you dont know about.

  • Us 'white' people aren't superior nor are we inferior we are simply all humans and people from every race, culture and creed make mistakes.

  • @0Zolrender0 it is people like you who deserve to be shot! What would you do if someone from a completely different culture (say Arabs since that seems to be one of the popular racist rants of Australia right now) came here and forced you to live by their rules and if you didn't you got shot. What would you do if your children were taken from you etc. Would you ever get over it? Would your children get over it? NO so maybe get off your high racist fucking horse and think about the facts!

  • @Clobeyful lets see..what i would do is resist. But lets face it if England, the dutch etc didnt discover then another race would have. Imagine japan finding australia. all the coons would have been shot. simple. so it could have gone alot worse. and really are they so dumb as to think that australia would have gone undiscovered forever? the we were here first so give it back doesnt work in the real world. hell all of europe would have to be rewritten 1000 times over.

  • @Clobeyful you dont see conqoured countries in europe crying they they were here first give us our land back.. crap the belgiums got invaded by the germans twice in 30 years but it was only military muscle that gave htem their land back. imagine belgium going to germany...but but but we were here first. give me my land back. wake up you little tosser. get a job and join society.

  • @PietPassword I am white and I do not condone any racism towards anyone. 

  • heres a solution. none will like it but...lets shoot them all like we were ment to when we took over this land. i live in the NT and i know whats its about with the abos. I get broken into yelled at in the street (called a white fucking cunt etc to my face) yet i can do nothing back. to do so is racist. they sit they bludge they drink they break into our homes. yet they hide behinde the race card. you cannot say balacks are doing this thats racist..well its the truth..so get over it. they use us

  • For fuck sakes we give you stupid noonga's education and all you do is skip school and hang around petrol stations. And thats why you all live in shit holes or caravans because ya families to dumb to get a job or anything

  • @Z0MBI314ND I live in the NT. It cost me $1.60 a litre premium to fill my motorbike. as the unleaded is just crap as its that unsniffable opal shit. for the cost of 400 petrol sniffesd in central australia we now have to put up with crap fuel (opal fuel is proven to be crap noone uses it) and inflated prices. if you were paying $1.60 a litre for premiunm there would be an ourcry in the cities, yet thats life for us in the Central NT. noone cares.

  • @0Zolrender0 Fuck you, you petrol sniffing noonga!!

  • Nice cuddly video but throwing more money into the Aboriginal Industry wont fix it.

    Unfortunately it needs a group of committed leaders of some sort in each community otherwise wasting more billions will not work.

    It needs commitment but money sadly is unable to buy it, irrespective of how much people feel money is everything, there is no point in just having government commitment.

  • well they sure are "coughs" unique looking

  • I cannot believe the absolute ignorance of some people who have commented. It is truly ironic @Nunfunter that your head seems to be so thick. Society constantly disadvantages Aboriginal people. You seriously need to improve your education. You could start with watching blue eyes brown eyes, although I'm not sure your thick skull would be able to comprehend the message! I am honestly dumbfounded by some of these comments and truly think the world would be a better place without you!

  • omg thier disgusting

  • i'm sick of all this racist shit. you people are all fucked up!!!!!!!!!!!

  • GET A FRIGGIN JOB AND SEND YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL AND STOP RAPING AND BEATING YOUR KIDS.

    STOP THE HANDOUTS BECAUSE THEY ONLY SUSTAIN THE STATUS QUO.

  • Of course "whites" are cause of their problems. Whites invade a land when aborigens had lived for thousands of years.

  • @kiakiukiaukiau and that makes whites responsible for everything, including drug abuse and alcohol abuse, low employment raitng, poor education and bad hygene even though they're all personal choices that only the sufferer can make.....bullshit, they're responsible for their own problems.

  • @Nunfunter

    Mate whiteys are responsible, it cannot be the Aboriginals, they are of course the victims in all this, so you need someone to blame and whiteys are really the only unrestricted target.

    As for personal choices yep thats the governments fault too!

    This is why irrespective of what the cryers, apologists, civil libertarians, drug addicts and activists say and do, it will never be fixed, as you cannot fix an issue until you acknowelege it, this I would suggest will never be done

  • @Inconvenientruths Don't have a go at an entire RACE, without evidence of some sort. your first paragraph is just hot air. you have a go at 'whiteys' without actually giving a reason for it. I don't really think you can blame or should have to blame anyone in this situation. The problem with the educational system in remote communities is that it's hard to convince teachers from the city to teach in outback towns and that the teachers don't understand the 'ways' of the indigenous kids.

  • oh god grow up all of you. i have an aboriginal friend and she doesnt sit around on her butt sucking money out of the government. she is appalled that black australians get more money from centrelink than white australians. she is a nurse.  she earns her own living. and she thinks that all of her aboriginal brothers and sisters who sit around and complain should really take a good look at themselves

  • @MuzzieSlapper100

    Wow, you've been around for 50,000 years to witness all that? You must be very old.

  • Why do people have to be so rude this site should be wiped off. Some people comments r disgusting!

  • Australians, what has come from all this giving of privileges and focusing on their culture?: A bunch of drunk’s obnoxious bums!!

    Aboriginals need to be thought discipline and responsibility. Giving money and privileges has made them spoiled and lazy.

  • THEY are the CAUSE of THEIR problems, not whites!

  • @GanEdenAustralia Unfoutunately, it's not so easy to drill that into their thick skulls (it's true, they're thick!)

  • It's not fair that people go and colonize their land and they have to assimilate and conform. That's not the way that it should be. The Western way is always the right way.

  • Until the Aboriginal people start to treat education seriously, there is no hope. Most put no value on school or schooling. I recently had to visit a few remote communities at the request of those out there and was shocked to find that it was a lost cause. Why - because a huge number of people are illiterate. They are lucky if they can write their own name. They can't operate anything because they can't read, so they are unemployable .

  • they are unevolved subhuman species.

  • @Dayser690 White people have unevolved Skin.

  • @MUURCHOTI people have different skin tones depending on the environment if these monkeys were evolved then why are they in this situation? just look at every black country in africa.

  • Aborigines are from Asia, not Africa. And there are Apes and Monkeys in Asia too.

    If you cannot tell the difference between blacks versus Apes and Monkeys, then you are ignorant and I question where you got your education.

    Humans and Apes come from the same ancestors, but we did not evolve from Apes. I'm a black woman but I cannot breed with an Ape. I think if you took the time to learn about Apes, you might find them as fascinated like I do. You would see a clear difference.

  • @MUURCHOTI hell i could compare these niggers to modern day apes and i honestly can't say i won't see a difference.

  • @Dayser690 You must be an uneducated ignorant idiot. If you can't see the differences, your honestly mentally retarded. Tails, fur, how they communicate. African/African Americans or wherever else are human, just with what we call black skin. Same goes for other races. This world is so fucked up and it's people like you that contribute. Racists. fft. THEY are the ignorant "niggers." THEY are the ones who will not appreciate their lives as others will. Too busy with unimportant things, like this.

  • @Dayser690 "and i honestly can't say i won't see a difference."

    So you cannot say that you will not see a difference? Haha. Don't you mean that you can say you will not see a difference? You put too much thought into your comments, don't you? Look at your grammar as well. YOUR the "nigger." Racist asshole.

  • @Dayser690 maybe you should spend the day with some apes then, and then the day with these so called uncivilized people to learn a bit more about their beautiful culture and earn some respect for them and for yourself.

  • @MUURCHOTI  hell i could compare these niggers to modern day apes and i honestly can't say i won't see a difference.

  • Subhuman? Do you have scientific evidence>

  • And yet they are given so much in order to succeed and live healthy lives

    Waste of money - the ones that show no initiative should be forced to do trades or community activities so their skills can better others of their race - since most are unemployable or unmotivated to "work for a white man who stole my land"

  • "And I don't live or study in El Salvador."

    Then you probably live in some country, where people build a more prosperous society than that of Salvador due to their higher IQs.

  • you are a waste of time.

  • You are, too. Pitiful fool.

  • I think you are going to fail , good luck though.

    those who suceed will go from their community or forced to stay and it will be like an evaporating black hole.

    you can't do anything with your set of tools and ideals. good thing I don't have to spend money on it.

  • Impoverished people have no business having children. They must work as hard as possible to improve their situation. If possible get an education. There also needs to be emotional support and assistance given to help create healthy patterns and help them adjust to changes made to their environment by the intrusion of non aboriginal peoples.

  • lets be honest they wont get a job because there savages and education isnt really that important to them

  • A hard truth that many people refuse to accept - and instead they believe in multicultural fairy-tales of equality.

  • y do they have to be savages?

  • You would employ a whole Aboriginal family, if you had a private company producing whiskey, sure. You could use them as quality testers.

  • @comedybenj Americans is the savages,and if you can live of the earth what tha fuck you need a job for.

  • @comedybenj I really don't think you can be talking about education when you cannot get simple grammar correct. It's "they're" not "there" you ignorant arsehole. I'm sure any 10 year old "savage" would be able to tell you that.

  • Please people lets stop being ignorant and lets start opening our eyes to reality

  • I think some people need to understand aboriginal people did not choose to live this way. Aboriginal people everywhere in the world went through the same thing, in canada, latinoamerica, us, new zealand, australia. They are being marginalized in society and as we all know they have a lot of socio-economic problems. A big part of it is because of a lack of education not due entirely to "being lazy", is part of the cultural problems caused directly from the colonization from british and spanish.

  • What about the other dozen countries that live on what was aboriginal land - also in recent times?

    You are picking on the only people who face up to their past - whose past is properly recorded.

    Do you know of indigenous people not affected by white people, but by other indigenous groups, foreigners, religious groups and even modern countries?

    Australia is targeted because it is known to jumps through hoops in response to complaints about aboriginal welfare.

    Countries are targeted by 'race'.

  • Of course, what about the Mongoloid invaders, who wiped out aboriginal Americans 7500 years ago? Why do American blacks complain of white oppression, yet their African brethren kill (and even eat) poor Pygmies until today? We shouldn't be so selective!

    We should ask for some compensations from Mongolia and Turkey, after all?

  • @centrum99

    I thought they were PNG highlanders, because there is a dog breed there that are like dingos, and they arrived 5000 years ago.

    Look Nth of Australia and there are about 1000 different native peoples who have been destroyed.

    If it wasn't for the hope of compensation, they would still hold their heads in shame, unable to look people in the eye, but we have built them up into an industry profiting from victimisation.

    They only care about natives, when they too get compensation.

  • @centrum99

    Yeah, but "what did Rome ever do for us"

  • AT LOGICBEATSLIES: I do know aboriginal people were not only affected by white people, I never said that. I am not trying to blame any race or ethnic group here. My purpose was to let people know that indigenous communities are not living the way they are living because they want to live that way. They are suffering of all kinds of social and economical problems mostly as a result of the colonization from other countries like spain, britain, etc etc.

  • @paullinita

    I don't think the 'result' is an exact correlation.

    You don't hear indigenous people complain, where there is nobody to hear them, and where they have no rights.

    PNG highlanders are not all over the news, for instance, yet they have no hope, and certainly don't enjoy the potential any Australian aboriginal has.

    I think that you feed the victimization mindset when you take a one sided view.

    The modern world looks too brutal to people that never worked, or had civilization.

    Peace

  • "They are suffering of all kinds of social and economical problems mostly as a result of the colonization from other countries like spain, britain, etc etc."

    Suffering problems? LOL And what did they have before the colonization? They had no problems, when everything they had were flintstones and spears? In reality, they live the same life like before, only enriched by whiskey. It is the comparison with our advanced civilization that makes them look like "people having problems".

  • @centrum99: what do you know about aboriginal history anyways.I can tell you dont know much. Mayans had an advanced system of democracy and were also advanced in mathematics and astronomy. What makes you think they were uncivilized???????

  • At logicbeatslies: I am not trying to give you or anyone a history class but I just would like people to be aware of how things really are and not to blame individuals for a problem that roots in the history of a whole culture.

  • @paullinita black people you mean.

  • Tests of their mental abilities show that it's their own incapability that they should blame. Abos have IQ 66 (one of the lowest on Earth - and I guess the tests included halfbreeds), American Indians and Polynesians roughly IQ 85.

  • @centrum99 : for your information, IQ tests have been regarded by psychologists themselves to be culturally biased and completely ignorant of other people's cultural backgrounds. IQ tests are not a reliable source of measurement of intelligence at all. you should do some more research before you adventure to even talk about intelligence. even if IQ tests were reliable, they just prove their intelligence is affected by their environment, not genetics, which only proves the point that "abos" need

  • "IQ tests have been regarded by psychologists themselves to be culturally biased and completely ignorant of other people's cultural backgrounds"

    Judging from your comments, your cultural background is also very peculiar and unsuited for IQ tests.

  • @centrum99: HAHA WHAT??? And where DO YOU get this from?? MY cultural background is very peculiar and unsuited for IQ tests?? LOL kid, you dont even know were I come from!!!! please backup your comments intelligently if you are going to reply to me. I back up my comments with research and you only talk based on your biased opinions. And please do not bother to reply if you are going to say some nonsense like the one you just said.

  • Of course, Paullinita, you are a genius. By Salvadoran standards. So stay at your university, please, and study advanced drug trafficking. This is how you can help your nation most.

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  • @centrum99: like i said before this is just nonsense. and you do not need to know this but I don't live or study in El Salvador.

  • @centrum99: now you are just being racist and making a fool of yourself. I never insulted you or offended you in my comments I was just trying to prove my point and have an adult logical argument where we both can learn but I see its impossible with you. like i said before this is just nonsense. And I don't live or study in El Salvador.

  • @centrum99: more education

  • seriously...to some of all history...

    THE SPANISH, FRENCH, AND BRITISH, basically fucked up all the natives in the entire world. Except maybe eastern asia.

  • "THE SPANISH, FRENCH, AND BRITISH, basically fucked up all the natives in the entire world."

    Spanish came as the second. Aztecs did the job before their arrival.

  • so sad =(

  • Aboriginal education is extremely important as is all education. Within every classroom the teacher is responsible for creating a warm, engaging and supportive learning environment for every student!

    Everyone learns differently due to different social, cultural and religious backgrounds ... these differences should be supported and catered for.

    I only wish that one day I have the opportunity to teach in an Aboriginal community and inspire the students to learn and be the best they can be!

  • "I only wish that one day I have the opportunity to teach in an Aboriginal community"

    I also wish you had the opportunity, because you would lose your childish illusions very quickly.

  • yous r all racist aboriginies r very smart educated hard working people who r trying to achieve a lot in life but them whities r to blame for everything they have destroyed the black people ways and done nothing u ask any aboriginal they will tell you bloody white trash

  • Aboriginal people are not black. We are completely different from each other.

  • everybody is a distant desendent frm africa...ppl hate to believe it but its true.

  • @bbgurl22ful

    Sort of...

    For a million years there were pre-humans all over the planet. Who can say where they started civilizing, really...

    Fossil records are almost non-existent. For all we know, Australian aboriginals were the first humans, as there were pre-humans in australia too. So, perhaps they migrated away, and changed the face of the globe.

    Whoever invented slavery were the real civilized types, as were their slaves, and those that came after..

  • So long as aboriginal people keep seeing themselves as victims they will never succeed. The attendence rates in many community schools is appalling. But, there's always an excuse: not the right type of teaching, not culturally appropriate. Get to school - stay in school..!! Unless the people help themselves - nothing will change. Parents also do little to encourage children to go to school. They do fuck-all and then blame eveyone else because they have no employable skills.

  • Please, don't waste money on these Stone Age people. Let them live in the desert/jungle. With their IQ 66 they have no chance to succeed in modern civilization. The neverending attempts to raise them on the European level only bring suffering to both sides.

  • Equality eh. It's already lop sided.

    You cannot force a man to learn how to fish if you keep giving him your fish.

  • hahaha!!! it's so funny how you white cunts writ about how back in old age europeans only shower once a month..hahaha!!! why is that who's filthier now?? and white cunts are pron to produce lice, i mean produce, yeah i said it!!! because they are now started to shower more often doesnt mean they are clean!!!! fucking dirty cunts!!!!

  • One can of Beer, Two cans of Beer, three cans of beer, ???? more beer.

  • I think its really fascinating, I think the aboriginals are like a glimpse into our distant past in the evolutionary process.

  • you find pre humans in europe, africa and asia but never in Australia. The ones you find in Australia are Modern. I think thats really fascinating.

  • I wonder if ever, in all the history of human exsistance,any group of people has failed due to their own short comings. Has that ever happened?

  • cdj0,

    Yes, many civilizations have collapsed due to short comings. Easter Island, Greenland, Sumerians...

    Pick up either Collapse by Jared Diamond or A Green History of the World by Clive Ponting.

  • What? Your not making sense anymore. For one i didn't shut up and also i think it would be more of a benefit if you were to stop denying the truth.

    this is my last reply because you became boring, take it easy.

  • Pm's first visit to an aboriginal comnunity since August 2003. are you Kidding me

  • You guys in Australia need to care more about the Aboriginal people and preserve there culture otherwise there culture will die.

    I love Australia and the Aboriginal people.

    your fellow American friend

    Catherine

  • I agree :) But you guys in America need to do the same with your Indigenous people too! They too are declining in much the same way our Aboriginal people and culture are.

  • where you from?? You must know nothing about America. Its them who dont try. We give them all the necesary funds and they ignore it... belive it or not some people dont want to aknowledge their culture in todays modern world

  • I dont know all that much about America. The point is that there's similar problems that Indigenous people worldwide face a a result of colonisation.You sound just like many Aussies here too; many complain that Aborigines are lazy & dont try-but the real issue is much deeper than that- lack of identity, a distrust of the government, years of abuse passed down through generations.. this is way to complex to talk about btw I dont even remember writing this comment it was in response to something..

  • Kia ora, I'm a Maori from NZ and totally agree with you, it's a lot to go through and yes, abuse is the word, it's not as easy as getting up, getting over it an moving on, Maori are doing really well now as far as fighting for our land, customary rights and our language and I can tell you that since our people have their identity back, crime, drugs alcoholism has slowed down a heck of a lot, kia kaha to the aborigines and the native americans, I know yous can do it!!

  • "a result of colonisation"

    Yes. In the sense that they can't cope with modern civilization brought to their land by colonizers. They are living fossils of Homo sapiens.

    "years of abuse passed down through generations"

    Usual Marxist babbles. Can you explain to me, please, why other nations don't suffer from any heredital distress despite that their countries were utterly destroyed by wars in the past?

  • What about Vietnamese?

    Only certain backward people - like Abos and African blacks - are psychologically stressed for centuries immediately after the white man sets foot on their land.

    LOL

    If white people behaved like Abos, they would be still sitting on the ruins of their cities bombed during Word War II, and they would cry that they need food and money.

  • tHATS a good video good work keep it up!! Murri pride up in hurr!!!

    JoeyGunit16

  • the white mans quest for wealth has impoverished a culturaly rich people.

  • All Indigenous children are offered education.. Education is the most important tool for change. But what good is it when there is no drive, no encouragement from family and no real significance in their lives. Its cos most of the problems occur in mission communities where for most of the population, english is a 2nd, 3rd, 4th language.

    Also with so much negative history with whites, why would u want 2 put ur kids in the hands of white ppl every day?

  • And because their parents do not understand the significance of education, their children do not learn it either, the domino effect.

    I should also mention the huge culture clash which occurs. A formal school education in a 'white' system is greatly different from the home life of many children. I myself even felt this strain.

    So as I said, it's not about disempowering ourselves, its a lack of many important variables which prohibit us from moving forward as a people.

  • To all Abos:

    Fuckin' wake up! Stop drinking, bludging, thieving, bashing your missus, and fucking your kids...

  • oi cuntfuck.. ur an idiot.

  • Well said, my "learned" friend...

    Law student are we?

  • yes.. i know an idiot when i see one.

  • "oi cuntfuck.. ur an idiot."

    So do I...

  • As you and I both know that, alcoholism, welfare dependency, criminality, domestic violence and child abuse are serious problems in the indigenous population. Statistically far worse than any other racial demographic in Australia. Why don't you respond on the grounds of the argument, lawyer?

  • they're not problems, they're symptoms of a problem... colonisation! which was a white man's idea.

  • If you think that they are not serious problems for indigenous people, in and of themselves, then you are seriously deluded. They harm aboriginal people first and foremost. If you want to blame it on the colonisation (European invasion) of Australia, then go right ahead. However, I do not see how this will empower aboriginal people to solve and transcend these serious social and health problems. I am curious though, why would you choose to disempower yourselves in this way?

  • Firstly being taken away from ur home and put in some craphole mission where ur forced to live in poverty... working as slaves and receiving no wage, having generations of children taken away, facing issues such as rape and genocide... its gonna fk u up somehow. If you wanted to marry, move locations, even have sex!.. you had to have permission from the 'protector'. Thus... mate... If a person is raised as a vegetarian chances are you'll end up a vegetarian

  • [1] All that I'm hearing from you is a rationale for aboriginal social problems. How will this empower Aboriginal people to solve (transcend) these problems? I say again, if you want to blame your behaviour and/or problems ("its gonna fk u up somehow" as you so quaintly put it) on the European invasion and atrocities thereafter, then you have placed the solution in white hands, not yours. In case you haven't noticed, white people don't particularly give a fuck about aboriginal problems.

  • [2] And even if they did, it's aboriginals that have to do the solving. Do you think that the intervention in central Australia and the top end will ultimately solve anything if aboriginal people don't change? Don't you see that blaming the European invasion/atrocities for Aboriginal social problems is disempowering and solves nothing - ZERO. That's out of your hands now. The only purpose it can serve as is a disempowering excuse... that's right; I said it, an EXCUSE!

  • Colonisation is the cause. There are many programs and community project addressing this now, run by OUR OWN ppl.

    I like many other Indigenous Australians dnt believe in reconciliation, yu cant bring 2 groups of people 2getha after hundreds of years of conflict with a marketing campaign. Ppl hav their views and without education it'll get you nowhere. I believe in selfdetermination. The idea that we can only change our situation by using our cultures and shared vision to create a united front.

  • And its not an excuse. For example victims of the stolen generation can suffer mental breakdowns, including a major loss of identity. What message and effect will this have on their children? The apology by Kevin Rudd has already done so much, people have hope for the future and realise that the government is now ready to move forward with them. Its a huge change from having a government treat you from a paternalistic point of view.

  • Your hopeful. I'm nowhere near so optimistic. I think that Rudd's apology, although not a complete waste of time, is an empty gesture.

    FACT: Europeans took the land without even acknowledging prior occupation.

    FACT: 80% of the indigenous population was wiped out in the next 100 years - some by means of genocide.

    FACT: The land is still occupied and will never be surrendered - pastoral and mining lease still and will always extinguish native title.

    How can an apology make anything right?

  • Because it provides a stepping stone. what it says to our people is that the government is ready to walk hand in hand and accept their obligation (on behalf of past governments) what they have done in the past. It's the education and promotion of our shared history. People still believe there was no stolen generation for goodness sake! Something we'v been promoting for yrs is the close the gap campaign. Rudd's now jumped on board, we're reaching a wider audience.

  • "People still believe there was no stolen generation for goodness sake!"

    Another example of the apathetic ignorance of white Australia. Don't get me wrong, I'm no bleeding heart (as you no doubt have gathered by now) - just a realist. Another example: I had two nannies in Darwin (from the age of 0 - 10 years old). Both came from orphanages and were removed from their families as very young children. I knew all this but had no idea of the Stolen Generation until Beasly's speech in 1998.

  • One thing that would be handy for you to contimplate. A big parcel of facts and figures is not a big parcel of the truth. When exploring issues like this, a whole bunch of historical facts means little. Truth is a concept.If facts were all it takes to tell the truth, john Howard never told a single lie.

  • My friend, truth is not a concept. Concepts are mental fabrications. They are stories we tell our selves in order to "understand" the world. THAT is the truth...

  • So you are saying that apologies are not necessary if you completely anialate them.You dont have to apologise if you are bad enough in the first place.

  • I don't understand and the comment as I don't know which comment of mine you were responding to. It gets a bit confusing when the dialogue goes on for a bit. Was it the one about Rudd's apology being an empty gesture?

    However, your comment DOES bring up a hypothetical that I've been pondering lately.

    What if Australia was colonised by the French or the Dutch, or even worse, the Belgians? Do you think that we'd even be having this conversation? (i.e. Would one Aborigine be left alive in 2008?)

  • Cultural differences separate us. This can lead to hatred, fear and racism, based on ignorance.

    It is empathy that draws us together and eliminates all these evil things. Empathy is the basis of love, team work and wisdom.

    If you still cant see the need for apologies you are Narcissistic in your outlook. You dont know yourself. Yes that is the most important thing of all. You dont know yourself.If you are Narcissistic Personality by nature, you wont understand what i have written.

  • Cultural differences separate us, and will ALWAYS separate us, no matter how much empathy we attempt to conjure up for each other. Do you identify yourself as European? Do you even identify yourself as an Australian - given all the European connotations that that term of nationhood is loaded with? I certainly don't identify myself as Aboriginal.

    Remember, cooma, the Greek mythological figure Narcissuss fell in love with his REFLECTION not HIMSELF. So, the question is - are YOU narcissistic?

  • ur a wanker man..omg...my nan was part of the stolen genertaion...she suffered from depression and everythign else...we are suffering liek this because of the stolen gen..it affect not the ones who get removed but there children as well..that why they have problems with drinking and alchol,coz we a depressed and have alot of probems these are adictions,jst lyk every1 else have adictions..we are trying to become healthier and beta and it doesnt help wen ppl like u are constanly putting us down

  • You really don't look aboriginal man. Actually, you look much whiter than me (Jewish). You could live your whole life as a white man and no one would notice. But that aside, if you want to transcend a drug or alcohol addiction, the first thing you need to do is own the problem as YOURS - not pass it off onto anyone else. If you dodge responsibility, it takes the problem out of your hands and places it in someone else's. Why would you want tot disempower yourselves in this way?

  • It doesn't matter if you 'look' Aboriginal or not. What matters is that u choose 2 identify your Aboriginality. Imagine saying that to a woman who looks like a man.. 'you don't look like a woman'.

    Its our very right to blame the government for the atrocities that are ocurring in the modern day. There is no disempowerment among our people, its simply a lack of knowledge and understanding. Have you ever stopped to wonder why the problems which occur, do occur?

  • And i stress, it's a lack of knowledge and understanding on all sides.. The government (for not being aware of fundamental cultural sensitivities and the impact history has had on current situations), mainstream Australia (who are not aware of the history of this country and lack the understanding) and Indigenous Australia (for not having the education and correct environments needed for change).

  • But this is my point - European Australians, for all their empty gestures and feigned interest in Aboriginal issues, don't really give a crap and never really will. Believe me. It's up to Aboriginals to "go it alone". Forget whites and look after yourselves. Whites are only concerned with denying and avoiding their own guilt -- not with the real welfare of Aboriginals.

  • White people don't 'really give a crap' because there's no understanding of the underlying issues. People like you who go around saying shit like 'To all Abo's - Stop drinking, bludging, thieving, bashing your missus, and fucking your kids...' don't have the knowledge. So you lump every1 into the 1 basket because it's the typical stereotype. Have u ever stopped and thought about it? Or even bothered to research stuff 2 back up ur arguments? Ignorance is a disease.

  • Yeah, the Aboriginal population makes up 3.2% of the WA population yet 47.8% of the adult prison population is aboriginal. Now THAT"S a problematic over-representation. However, that's besides the point. White people aren't interested in Aboriginal culture, social problems or anything else. Why would we? There's no motivation for us to take interest. That's the way it is. Call it a stereotyping if you like - up to you. It's not going to change, so what is the indigenous community going to do?

  • BTW: I said 'To all Abo's - Stop drinking, bludging, thieving, bashing your missus, and fucking your kids...' for shock value. The Pearson brothers, Lenny Collard and Robert Bropho have all said the same thing - albeit not in as offensive terms as that.

  • shock value? it does nothing but encourage blatant racism. and you're quoting robert bropho? ...a serial child sex offender? And noel pearson is highly critical on government approaches, believing that they keep indigenous australians on welfare and out of the 'real economy'.. again, innapropriate gov. policies impacting negatively on indigenous australians.

  • I've heard that about Bropho - he's never been convicted though. And that doesn't automatically mean that everything he says is erroneous. Why shoot the messenger? Lenny Collard is a respected Noongar academic. Noel Pearson is as critical of Aboriginal people as he is of Government policy. In 1999 he said that it was disgraceful that ecotourism operators were screaming out for Aboriginal employees (anyone) but only 3% of the jobs were filled in that sector.

    PS: I like to SHOCK!!!

  • "There is no disempowerment among our people"

    No, I'm afraid that you're wrong. Aboriginal people have an inherent disempowering mentality of blame. That's the first thing that you have to change. Noel Pearson is vehemently explicit about this. It's the entire rationale behind your biggest problem - welfare dependency. As a people, if you can't even see that, then there's no hope...

  • as i said mate you can't change your whole rationale if you don't see any other choice. I still have female cousins who believe that don't have a right to education simply because they're female!

  • There's a good example! As a European, I have no idea whether that's a poverty "thing" or an Aboriginal culture "thing" (and I've had a fair bit to do with Aboriginal people in my 40 years on this planet - two childhood nannies [Stolen Generation], two girlfriends, worked all over WA with aboriginal work mates)- and neither would 99.9% of all whites in this nation. And they don't really want to know. Absolutely ignorant of Aboriginal society and culture. How can they help indigenous people?

  • its neither.. it says that you can't change your situation if u dont know any better.

  • So it's a cultural thing - in the sense that it is part and parcel of the social schema, self concepts and gender roles of that ethnic (in this case indigenous) group.

  • no it's jus an example of what happens when you're not exposed to other options in life. The domino effect. It has nothing to do with culture.

  • Social "thing" then...

  • yeh well u know why they sniff petrol and have these problems..its coz wen we were on our land..the white settlers came and kicked us off..we didnt have drugs or alchol we fed of the natural bush food,the reason why we got into the drugs and alchol was bcoz the white ppl came and sold it to us so we could move off out own land and killed us! that why we have these problems of today,so maybe b4 u talk about our brains being butchered acutlly look about and learn why we are liek thsi as today..

  • "yeh well u know why they sniff petrol and have these problems..its coz wen we were on our land..the white settlers came and kicked us off.."

    White people are in Australia so I guess I'll just have to drink and sniff myself to death... It's not MY fault...

    Take some responsibility for fuck's sake! That's the problem with aboriginal culture - you quite simply don't know how to take responsibility for your own behaviour. By definition, it is a culture of disempowerment...

  • Maybe if they stopped sniffing petrol, their brains wouldn't be so incredibly butchered and they might actually get somewhere in school!

    Welfare mongers.

  • what a dumb cunt. you don't have the knowledge to comment on such issues. go read a book.

  • OK, so my post may have been a little insensitive, and I might have been slightly drunk at the time...

    But what is government funding going to do? People will sniff petrol and skip school even if there's 100000 billion dollars of funding.

  • That was beautiful!!!

  • nice video. good message