@nails3jesus0 I never said women talking can't be real, just that these stories have a tinge of unreality about them. I suspect that they have been coached or that many of these stories were "retrieved" from suppressed memories, as was crack-pottedly common in the 1980s, so please, save the "f you" for yourself.
Thank you Robert Jensen for uploading this, I wrote a letter to Andrea once after escaping, with my dog, from an abusive situation. I was relieved to find a voice that could express what I was feeling. She sent me a beautiful postcard in return. I treasure it. I am proud to be an advocate for the work, the endless, tiring work.. To those people who post comments about her looks or her equating sexism to the holocaust ..grow up.
No wonder she hated men as she hated herself. The woman was as ugly as a mud fence. I loved her debate with Bob Gucchione of Penthouse fame. He called her an ugly hag who could not get laid. No wonder she was so ful of hate. God
this woman makes very few actual arguments... postulating is more like it. Judging by her obesity she was most likely sexually abused by a male relative as a child, but no matter how much you condemn pornography - the blame is with the consumer, not the industry since porn actors are porn actors by choice - it's voluntary. The desires of the consumer you can scrutinize all you want, but porn actors don't represent all women (Dworkin's premise), that's just silly.
@Sivels Are you a mentally retarded? Regardless if the porn is consenting or not, it's compelte abuse and it's encouraging abuse. Pornstars need the money, and they feel it's the only way to get money, they take the most humiliating jobs possible. Most porn stars commit suicide.
@skulldrix yes, I must be, thanks for calling me out on it.
Now, I might actually be interested in engaging in a lively discussion with if you hadn't started your comment with "Are you a mentally retarded?". Obviously you're so emotionally laden that engaging with you would be a waste of my time.
Saying "all men are rapists," yes she actually said that. Is misandery Feminism had it's place in North America, but actual studies have shown now days more domestic violence is caused by women, and the wage gap is now just factored by what degrees you have. She doesn't care about men in pornography only women, she is a hypocrite and a sexist. The fact she compares prostitution and child pornographers to pornography which is purely consensual is outrageous.
@JosLutgens women sexually abuse boys too... boys are abused at similar rates of women. In many cases women act as enablers for male abusers. Sexualy abuse, molestation, rape is not gender specific.
Although I am obviously completley against all this bad stuff happenening to women through pornography, I can't help but feel that men are completley generalised here. Not every man is out to get women and hurt them, nor are they trying to use them for sexual supremicy. Of course, this isn't to say that some do, but it needs to be clearly distinguished in these speaches.
@UnknownDante Exceptions, if there's any, don't matter at all because it's men as a class, it is the vast majority of man in the planet doing harm to *every* woman in the planet through out history. Instead of using their energy and our time to state and derail that not every men is so, men who truely don't want to be like that should start working on deconstructing whatever they have of it in themselves (and they will find a lot of it) and go talking to other men about it so a change happens.
@overainbows Also, racism works both ways just like feminism. You can't preach equallity for women if that means crossing the line yourself because you'd be right back where you started. As for the completley niche area where these incidents do happen, I don't think that talking to these sickos about their behaviour is going to help anything. Would it not make more sense to call the police rather than preaching blindly?
Also, even if one is truely an exception, he still benefits from all the harm done to women. It's like being white in a racist society. Even if you don't go after the benefits society thinks you're entitled to, they are still given to you, it is automatic. So it's pointless to say not every white is racist, because still every white person is benefitting at the expense of black people and somehow is maintaining racism. So, exceptions are unlikely and have virtually no importance.
@overainbows I think that's quite a blind assumption to make. Not forgetting that this video is 20 years old now, a lot of things have changed in that time. You can't point a finger and say 'oh, you're a man and therefore YOU are the cause of all the problems!'. Not once in my life have I ever thought about treating anyone in the way described and I know no one who has. I feel its paranoid to assume the worst of an individual because of his gender, because that's basically stereotyping.
What sucks is how many views the videos opposed to this wonderful woman's video got. It just goes to show how desensitised we have become. Woman are penetrated by animals, knives and other disgustful things and some will claim it's just business- it's not, it's beastality, it's not right. They are so many victims in the porn industry and they're silenced by hollywood's celebration of the populised ones. This atrocity must be stopped.
This is amazing! I love Andrea. Such a strong beautiful woman on the inside and out. Women all over the world miss you. Thank you for standing up for us when no one else will
@sprinklepartycake yeah right. not to be rude but the majority of feminists dont believe a word this hideous banshee says equating sexism to the holocaust is one great gimmick!!!
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
She wants it banned because she wanted attention and money and knew that a physically unhealthy, mentally unhealthy, violent, ugly person inside and out who has anger problems such as herself would not be called on being these things when she could pull out the "im a women you are sexist" card.
We aren't sexist Dworkin's, you were. She never mentioned how gay porn has MEN penetrated in the same way.
As always, porn is a business, these women sign contracts and get paid, their adult decisions.
Such strong and compelling, logically valid arguments this strong, intelligent and beautiful woman provides! At first I thought she would appeal to pathos by telling sobstories about issues that are completely unrelated to pornography in any way, but boy, was I wrong! Great watch.
listening to these stories is heartbreaking. its good to see the same misogynist over and over again in the sidebar as well, this is the hateful stupidity women have to contend with when we stand up for our humanity.
long live international womens day!
DrowningArt94 5 days ago
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xDBlackDeathxD 1 week ago
Feminists are fucking stupid. Don't even get me started.
19Jones91 1 week ago
thank you robert jensen!
nails3jesus0 2 weeks ago
There is something decidedly fishy about the "stories" - they sound scripted to me.
Frizinho 3 weeks ago
@Frizinho yep women talking can't be real, eh? It has to be a lie? fuck you.
nails3jesus0 2 weeks ago
@nails3jesus0 I never said women talking can't be real, just that these stories have a tinge of unreality about them. I suspect that they have been coached or that many of these stories were "retrieved" from suppressed memories, as was crack-pottedly common in the 1980s, so please, save the "f you" for yourself.
Frizinho 2 weeks ago
Thank you Robert Jensen for uploading this, I wrote a letter to Andrea once after escaping, with my dog, from an abusive situation. I was relieved to find a voice that could express what I was feeling. She sent me a beautiful postcard in return. I treasure it. I am proud to be an advocate for the work, the endless, tiring work.. To those people who post comments about her looks or her equating sexism to the holocaust ..grow up.
simonewatson3 1 month ago 3
No wonder she hated men as she hated herself. The woman was as ugly as a mud fence. I loved her debate with Bob Gucchione of Penthouse fame. He called her an ugly hag who could not get laid. No wonder she was so ful of hate. God
luvmegan 1 month ago
Andrea you are the best. I wish you were still with us, we miss you. RIP
rrrrmm1 1 month ago
this woman makes very few actual arguments... postulating is more like it. Judging by her obesity she was most likely sexually abused by a male relative as a child, but no matter how much you condemn pornography - the blame is with the consumer, not the industry since porn actors are porn actors by choice - it's voluntary. The desires of the consumer you can scrutinize all you want, but porn actors don't represent all women (Dworkin's premise), that's just silly.
Sivels 1 month ago
@Sivels porn actresses*
Sivels 1 month ago
@Sivels Are you a mentally retarded? Regardless if the porn is consenting or not, it's compelte abuse and it's encouraging abuse. Pornstars need the money, and they feel it's the only way to get money, they take the most humiliating jobs possible. Most porn stars commit suicide.
skulldrix 1 month ago
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@skulldrix yes, I must be, thanks for calling me out on it.
Now, I might actually be interested in engaging in a lively discussion with if you hadn't started your comment with "Are you a mentally retarded?". Obviously you're so emotionally laden that engaging with you would be a waste of my time.
Sivels 1 month ago
Saying "all men are rapists," yes she actually said that. Is misandery Feminism had it's place in North America, but actual studies have shown now days more domestic violence is caused by women, and the wage gap is now just factored by what degrees you have. She doesn't care about men in pornography only women, she is a hypocrite and a sexist. The fact she compares prostitution and child pornographers to pornography which is purely consensual is outrageous.
Rsthaliot 2 months ago
the worst part about this movie is i'll never get my 47 minutes back
drostify 3 months ago
Featuring this on my channel!
TehHermgirl 3 months ago
I love you, Andrea!!!
Thank you for posting this, so much.
TehHermgirl 3 months ago 2
Thank you very much for posting this video. I had always wanted to watch this. Very moving.
Maggielassie 3 months ago 2
I as a feminist and lesbian think we should hack all men their balls of!
JosLutgens 3 months ago
@JosLutgens women sexually abuse boys too... boys are abused at similar rates of women. In many cases women act as enablers for male abusers. Sexualy abuse, molestation, rape is not gender specific.
Sivels 1 month ago
Although I am obviously completley against all this bad stuff happenening to women through pornography, I can't help but feel that men are completley generalised here. Not every man is out to get women and hurt them, nor are they trying to use them for sexual supremicy. Of course, this isn't to say that some do, but it needs to be clearly distinguished in these speaches.
UnknownDante 3 months ago
@UnknownDante Exceptions, if there's any, don't matter at all because it's men as a class, it is the vast majority of man in the planet doing harm to *every* woman in the planet through out history. Instead of using their energy and our time to state and derail that not every men is so, men who truely don't want to be like that should start working on deconstructing whatever they have of it in themselves (and they will find a lot of it) and go talking to other men about it so a change happens.
overainbows 3 months ago 2
@overainbows Also, racism works both ways just like feminism. You can't preach equallity for women if that means crossing the line yourself because you'd be right back where you started. As for the completley niche area where these incidents do happen, I don't think that talking to these sickos about their behaviour is going to help anything. Would it not make more sense to call the police rather than preaching blindly?
UnknownDante 3 months ago
Also, even if one is truely an exception, he still benefits from all the harm done to women. It's like being white in a racist society. Even if you don't go after the benefits society thinks you're entitled to, they are still given to you, it is automatic. So it's pointless to say not every white is racist, because still every white person is benefitting at the expense of black people and somehow is maintaining racism. So, exceptions are unlikely and have virtually no importance.
overainbows 3 months ago
@overainbows I think that's quite a blind assumption to make. Not forgetting that this video is 20 years old now, a lot of things have changed in that time. You can't point a finger and say 'oh, you're a man and therefore YOU are the cause of all the problems!'. Not once in my life have I ever thought about treating anyone in the way described and I know no one who has. I feel its paranoid to assume the worst of an individual because of his gender, because that's basically stereotyping.
UnknownDante 3 months ago
What sucks is how many views the videos opposed to this wonderful woman's video got. It just goes to show how desensitised we have become. Woman are penetrated by animals, knives and other disgustful things and some will claim it's just business- it's not, it's beastality, it's not right. They are so many victims in the porn industry and they're silenced by hollywood's celebration of the populised ones. This atrocity must be stopped.
Noban2u 3 months ago 3
Thank you for posting this. I had been looking for it for years since I first saw it!
Rain9959 3 months ago
This is amazing! I love Andrea. Such a strong beautiful woman on the inside and out. Women all over the world miss you. Thank you for standing up for us when no one else will
sprinklepartycake 3 months ago 11
@sprinklepartycake yeah right. not to be rude but the majority of feminists dont believe a word this hideous banshee says equating sexism to the holocaust is one great gimmick!!!
newjerseydev 1 month ago
Of course the pervy porn addict men dislike this
sprinklepartycake 3 months ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
She wants it banned because she wanted attention and money and knew that a physically unhealthy, mentally unhealthy, violent, ugly person inside and out who has anger problems such as herself would not be called on being these things when she could pull out the "im a women you are sexist" card.
We aren't sexist Dworkin's, you were. She never mentioned how gay porn has MEN penetrated in the same way.
As always, porn is a business, these women sign contracts and get paid, their adult decisions.
falsettothehansom 3 months ago
Such strong and compelling, logically valid arguments this strong, intelligent and beautiful woman provides! At first I thought she would appeal to pathos by telling sobstories about issues that are completely unrelated to pornography in any way, but boy, was I wrong! Great watch.
Urrzah 3 months ago 3
listening to these stories is heartbreaking. its good to see the same misogynist over and over again in the sidebar as well, this is the hateful stupidity women have to contend with when we stand up for our humanity.
iremythpurr 3 months ago 10
AWESOME. Thank you so much!
iremythpurr 3 months ago 3
Thank you for posting this
theRoseofmyheart 3 months ago 3