The reason for this "scientific mindset" is because people (including judges) allowed the atheists/naturalists in science to dictate what science is and what science is not. The atheists have successfully legislated their religion of "naturalism at all costs":based from the laughably ridiculous falsification method (liberal logic).
Scientists that believe in a non Darwinian explanation need to grow a spine and speak up about what they believe and stop letting the naturalists intimidate them
Falsification rejects things that can not be proven to be false, its compete foolishness. The liberal minds have removed logic & reason from science. That which can not be prove to be false (unfalsifiable) is then assumed to be false and rejected based on the fact it can not be proven false.
The concept is ridiculous and created solely to keep God out.. And falsification is broken when needed with the multiverse & M theory.
@toobsucker Falsification doesn't "reject" anything. It only says that an assertion should be presented in a manner that the possibility of being shown as wrong, partially wrong or incomplete can arise - like stating "all apples are red" can be falsified by showing a green apple. How is that illogical or unreasonable? What is "the liberal minds", anyways?
Of course it does, it rejects anything that is unfalsifiable, this includes everything that maybe true & valid but not yet verifiable. All of quantum physics would have been unfalsifiable "super natural" nonsense to science 150 years ago.
If an investigator of a crime ruled out a suspect based on the grounds he could not be ruled out (falsified) he would be fired on the spot.
@toobsucker It no more "rejects" non-falsifiable things any more than a ruler "rejects" something too short or too long to be measured.
Your investigator example is also flawed. A non-falsifiable alibi keeps the suspect in the investigation's arena, while a falsifiable one (aka witnesses) allows the investigators to make judgement calls. However, just like science, the investigator always keeps potential suspects in mind, and no suspect is utterly "rejected" from all consideration.
@basmithtx "Your investigator example is also flawed. A non-falsifiable alibi keeps the suspect in the investigation's arena"
Yes it does in an investigation. This is my point, Science does not work this way. Unless a theory has the capability of being proven false, it can not be used by science. Popper considered a hypotheses that is unfalsifiable to be pseudo science because there is no way to prove it to be false.
Google "falsifiability criterion of demarcation" and study
@basmithtx "It no more "rejects" non-falsifiable things any more than a ruler "rejects" something too short or too long to be measured"
I suggest you study Poppers demarcation. A theory must be capable of being proven false, if a theory does not have the ability to be proven false, it is considered "non-scientific". Only theories that can be proven false are considered scientific
As I said science breaks falsification all the time.Falsification exists for one reason, to keep God out
@toobsucker Popper talks about falsification being important to critical discussion, but he doesn't outright reject the value of ordinary logical analysis.
It seems a bit arrogant to say your particular brand of religion has anything to do with the development of falsification. However, I'd say that science is generally happy to be proven wrong, but you presumably cannot tolerate the possibility. If something rejects the potential for being wrong, it seems specious to label it as science.
@basmithtx "It seems a bit arrogant to say your particular brand of religion has anything to do with the development of falsification"
I suggest you study this before you debate it.
Google "Science and Pseudo-Science", the first link is a Stanford site Popper was a liberal atheist that invented falsification for the sole purpose of keeping the "metaphysical" out of science.
"He [Popper] refuted verifiability as a criterion for a scientific theory or hypothesis to be scientific"
@basmithtx "In fact, maybe you skim through Popper's book rather than taking whatever your propaganda source is at face value"
I know what Popper believed, as do all scientists. Popper rejected logical positivism unlike what you want to believe. Look up "Logical positivism & Popper" and read.
Popper did not rule out unfalsifiable hypotheses may at some time in the future become falsifiable, but while they remain unfalsifiable , they also remain "non-scientific" (Samir Okasha)
@toobsucker It's clear that you're only going to view things in absolutist all-or-nothing terms, particularly if it involves in some way portraying yourself as some sort of "victim". This is pointless.
People don't realize that this is just as crazy as Einstiens thoery of relativity, But as time passed more people where able to test it, hence more acceptence of his theory by more people, even Christians nowadays.... SO just wait Quantum Mechanics will prove to be whacky and true mark my words.
I'm sure the physicists and mathematicians who first proposed that there might be additional dimensions or even parallell universes were mocked and considered insane by their peers. Nonetheless string theory is today a quite well-respected field of theoretical physics. People often forget how ridiculous many of the ideas we regard as mainstream today were considered just a few decades ago. If there were real evidence for the existence of the paranormal it would have been on the table by now!
@No1Brawler His entire interview is basicly pointing out that quantum mechanics has showen to be very strange and even seem magical, and this way of thinking is the science community is a big no no.. So for you to say " Where did this guy get his Phd from, are they just handing them out now" says that you completely miss read his entire interview.
@AntiCreationism As you'll hear the quote from physicists, "if you think you know quantum physics, you don't know quantam physics". Great minds admit that Quantum Physics is unusual and not understood, but you can't use those words: magical or spooky. All we can say is we don't understand it, full stop. Let's suspend our judgement no matter what they may be until more is known. For a PhD to speak like this on the subject gives gullible idiots ammunition.
I always appreciate his step-by-step analytical manner and the politeness with which he addresses criticisms... he also maintains that politeness even when faced with really rude or stupid people!
@shaneymane15 He uses quantam physics, in the context of observing "psychic phenomena". A quantam physicist observes patterns or a lack of patterns in the motion of subatomic particles, and Dean Radin gathers experiments which demonstrate someone consciously creating a pattern in subatomic particles.
@Lukecash12 Well, it's certain that when I think I affect subatomic particles. Neurology is all about chemistry right, and when chemicals change it of course also affect the subatomic particles. Does that make me a psychic? Of course not. The experiment you are suggesting would be very simple to execute. Observe a grain of sand on an subatomic level. Ask an alleged psychic person to affect the grain of sand and see if anything happens. Still, is the evidence forthcoming?
This is just conspiracy theory crap. Basing his argument on saying there are all these hidden people out there is no way of presenting an idea. He's a prize fuckwit. Invisble college? My arse.
This is just conspiracy theory crap. Basing his argument on saying there are all these hidden people out there is no way of presenting an idea. He's a prize fuckwit.
Many people here claim there is ‘no evidence’. In fact, there have been thousands of controlled and independently replicated lab experiments that have provided evidence for the existence of psi. Dean Radin has compiled many of them in ‘The Conscious Universe’ (an appendix is included with the original sources/publications if you want to verify them yourself).The dispute isn’t over whether the evidence exists; skeptics and parapsychologists both agree it does. Rather, the dispute lies...cont.
@GermanOperaSinger cont. from above...over how to interpret this evidence. I won’t say I know for sure whether psi phenomena is real or not. But I feel this field deserves further extensive research. Of course, no amount of evidence will ever spark a pseudo-skeptic’s interest. They aren’t interested in finding out the truth, only in protecting their prejudiced ideological worldview rooted in reductive materialism.
@GermanOperaSinger Even though I'm a skeptic, I have to agree with your conclusion. Parapsychological research, such as the Ganzfeld Meta-Studies, deserve to be taken under further consideration since these meta-studies have clearly showed (Even to the skeptics) that something interesting is going on. Personally, I don't believe that ESP & PK can be scientifically proven; however, I can say that they may be real. You're right, pseudoskeptics will never admit it due to their profound bigotry.
@IceAges14Aces I'm a skeptic as well, but I try to be as objective as possible. As I mentioned below, acknowledging that this phenomena may be real doesn't mean advocating mysticism/paranormal. If it is real, it is simply a natural phenomena for which we don't currently have a scientific model/mechanism to explain. As I said before, we should be more humble with respect to what we think we understand about the nature of reality. Science doesn't mean explaining the unknown in terms of the known.
@GermanOperaSinger Indeed, just because psi has been moved from the realm of nonsense to the border of ok, it may be real doesn't mean other paranormal/supernatural phenomena may be real. Whether it's ghosts, The Lock Ness Monster, etc. it's irrelevant. Even though I agree that something interesting is going on, I disagree with Radin's quantum theory & I personally think ESP/PK are just abstracts that help us comprehend the overwhelming data. Hey, ESP/ PK may be real, but you'll never know...
@GermanOperaSinger well "the conscious universe" isn't really a good example to back up your point..radin has been bending the truth extensively in this book...especially his so called metastudy was critisised by the scientific world since it wasn't clear why he included/excluded studies...in fact he just seemed to take studies that supported his point...it's not about the quantity but the quality of studies, you know...especialy in the field of psi research designing meaningful studies is hard
@stauffap True, but selective report occurs in all branches of science. I've interned and worked in several medical labs from respectable universities around the world, and all of them had hundreds of unsuccessful experiments filed away. Parapsychology is simply scrutinized more than other branches, so this issue comes up more...cont.
...Regardless, in most of these studies, statistically the odds showing a positive correlation are high enough to where the unsuccessful experiments to balance them out to chance would take ages to conduct (i.e. for the Ganzfeld one would have to conduct experiments back to back 24 hours a day for nearly 40 years before the results were balanced out to chance).
@GermanOperaSinger That doesn't make what he does any better. But yeah, i guess there is a taboo in psi research. But it doesn't surprise me, just look at how many frauds are out there, claiming to have psi abilities, but they never put them to the test and if they do they fail. Why has nobody won james randis million dollar price? I've never seen a psi ability so far that can't be faked convincingly. So yeah, maybe some psi phenomenon are real, that would be cool, but i think it's unprobable.
@stauffap I can't honestly take the Randi prize seriously because it is a moving goalpost. It has unrealistic demands; most mainstream scientific experiments would not pass it. I don't think he ever intended it to be won. Frauds happen in parapsychology but also in mainstream, but for many tests such as precog., mainstream psychology tests have been examined that show the same effect...
...Most of these tests are do not involve single persons claiming to have extraordinary powers, but large groups of college students, volunteers, and other John Doe's just interested in the experiments. Not people who would've been able to fake psi abilities convincingly. Again, it's possible that all the tests were frauds, but I find there to be no motive so that argument is rather unconvincing.
@GermanOperaSinger yes, but mainstream psychology calls it extrasensory perception and therefore thinks that it's just an uncounscious calculation that leads to a feeling/conclusion that might be mistaken as precognition.
@stauffap That's entirely possible. I'm not saying there is a paranormal phenomena involved, I actually don't believe there is such a thing as supernatural. There are several possibilities that can account for the data which include: 1. fraud, which I find to be unlikely considering the quantity of data involved, 2. what you call 'an unconscious calculation, 3. it is a natural phenomena that we currently lack a scientific model/mechanism to explain...
...10000yrs ago people couldn't explain why the sun rose. But it was still a natural, not supernatural phenomena. I just think we should be a little more humble with respect to what we think we understand about the nature of reality. I'm not advocating mysticism, new age, paranormal, magical thinking, etc. at all. Cheers
@stauffap "in fact he just seemed to take studies that supported his point..."
Your criticism is groundless due to its sheer ignorance (No offence). Dean Radin has never excluded independent, negative studies from the meta-analyses and he proved it by using a statistical concept known as the funnel-plot. Furthermore, not all of the meta-analyses implied in his book are his, e.g. Ganzfeld.
@IceAges14Aces lol...you're right that one sentence you quoted was unfortunate and of course not true.
What i meant was that he wasn't very critical in the studies he included into the metastudies of course.
I mean come on! have you ever read the crap radin is talking about? He thinks that the indian rope trick is real! lol...Eastern yogis could actually read minds, see accurately into the past,
present and future and even levitate. He asks:"What do they know that we don't
@IceAges14Aces Well, first of all metastudies are a very controversial subject in science and not generally accepted(see wikipedia). Second of all what Radin does is get a buch of studies with non significant results, combine them and suddenly get significant results( Robert Todd Carroll's detailed review of the conscious universe)....you can find the thing about yogis in "Dean
Radin Lecture Entangled Minds at Theosophy Hall" ...Goolge: Dean-radin-interview fakirs indian rope
@stauffap Yes, meta-analyses are controversial since they are open to systematic biases & these biases are somewhat prevalent in other meta-studies. In fact, some medical meta-studies that were approved by the FDA were actually flawed due to publication bias. Anyway, what is wrong with Radin adding and combing negative studies??? In a meta-analysis, you have to combine negative studies; otherwise, it will profoundly inflate the overall estimate of the effect-size, which makes it unrealiable.
Did you not hear him say it is not him who is doing the research, but that he promotes communication between parties interested in collaborating, and that those people were getting successful results? Not every discourse needs to include evidence, especially when the goal is to point to the research that is being done. I consider it unfortunate for you that you are not comfortable with this sort of conceptualization.
It is like Darwin should have said, "Waaaaah. Nobody likes my theory of the origin of the species. The royal society are a bunch of assholes!" Publish you data, and if it holds, you will suddenly be seen as a vaunted genius. Nobody likes a cry-baby.
I am sorry, Dr. Radin, but instead of being a cry-baby, shouldn't you be showing indisputable evidence of paranormal activity? I am more interested in your proofs, not in your feelings of inferiority. I think that any scientist would love to have written the paper that absolutely proves remote viewing, for example.
Quantum Mechanics is hard to explain, therefore hocus pocus completely unrelated to physics shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. Hmmmm, sounds plausible!
John Chilton Pearce in his book Evolution's End, asks, how do savants know what they know? These are people that generally do not have the ability to learn. He goes on to suggest that they are able to tap into a wave-field of knowledge. We all have this capacity which is attributed to the neocortex. It would some that some psi experiences fall into this realm.
I love how psychologists talk and criticize science and scientists... Yet they can't come up with a single, useful and predictive theory. Guess it's all envy of the real science-practicioners.
lol, typical...i too wish i could get a gig researching something as fun as that, and where none will really expect results. Maybe i will get in to banking, seems they do not expect results there also as proof to their bonuses for their total failure.
Many years ago, if you tried to explain or demonstrate to someone what a black hole is, then people (Including scientist) would call you crazy and say it defies the laws of Physics. Well, physicist are already accepting the fact that black holes (Astronomy), non-locality (Quantum Physics), and time travel (Physics) exists. As you could see, Science has it's own limit in knowledge. Psychic phenomena is still controversial, but hey, even Issac Newton's laws were controversial in those days.
It's simple, if you can demonstrate woo-woo physics then go and pick up your million dollars from James Randi. All you have to do is pass a double blind test. watch?v=sesamjLNHlU
Oh dont you just luuuuv The Radin? Like luv luv luv him? Doesnt he just make you smile and feel great to be alive? LIfe is good, the universe and our knowledge of it is expanding and the more open minded we are, the more fun we'll have with it all. Thanks Do5e for posting, like ya style.
Exactly. They've just seized upon the new revelations that quantum theory has unveiled and proclaimed it as their new avenue of research - indubitably they exhausted all the others! The very notion that a human brain, without utilizing any apparatus, could possibly manipulate or even interfere with the quantum particles in their immediate surroundings (and purportedly beyond) is bloody absurd!
You may call me a "skeptic", but why would I give credence to an unsubstantiated theory? I need proof.
keep in mind though, science is ever changing and correcting itself, what we believe to be real and true now in 100 years time may be looked back on as silly and niaeve.
i don't get it...is quantum physics NOT a new avenue of research?? are you suggesting we stay in static mindset merely because we haven't the 'proof'? many well established scientific theories were born and proofs discovered from the ability to project ideas beyond the current prevailing worldview.
Is intuition as drakemorrow eluded to a form of a crude psychic ability? I mean crude in a sence that we only use 10% of our brain capacity. Is the ability to do reliable expiriments on psychic abilty difficult & "hit & miss" because of the 10% brain usage? If we had more access to our brains, would psychic abilities accerate & experiments be more reliable & consistant? Are we learning that that there is no supernatualism & no reductionism as well? what is the alernative to both dogmas? quantum?
@serum1267 To clarify. We use every part of our brain or in other terms 100%. But at any single time we are using only specific parts of our brain at any given moment. So people are nieve in thinking that we only use 10% of our brain when in fact we use the entire thing but at any given moment only specific portions.
I was searching for an enlightening video on quantum physics not quasi-science based on wishes. Psychic abilities never reliably been shown through experimentation and logically do not have a Darwinian foundation. If there would psychics of any measure they would have a significant advantage and would thus rise quickly in the gene pool. This is not the case and although there may be selection pressures to encourage psychic ability it would show only as intuition which all would share.
And, if these psions or psychics were in society, they would have an advantage. This is mentioned around 5:18 in this video, when he says that an academic interest is growing. The reason only an interest grows, vice a 'psychic' population, could be because it still isnt accepted in today's society. Also, psychics arent necessarily born as such. Psionics is perhaps not genetic so much as it is based on experiences in ones life. Just a thought
The problem Drake,is you are unable to get past your paradigm.Your 'opinion' might be correct,but I have a strong feeling that you can't get past your 'belief system'.Very similar to religious fundementalist...facts or discussion, is a waste of time.Your mind is closed. I never said you were wrong only, that you are too 'certain' for an 'enlightened' man. Buddhist talk about 'attachment' to 'beliefs' It is a univeral problem, I think you are 'prejudiced', but, join the club (lol).
That may be so, and as such it is better to be open-minded about "parapsychological" beliefs, just in case you encounter them "for real". However this doesn't mean you have to espouse them or even contemplate them at length, particularly if you find the notion ridiculous (but not expressly insurmountable).
if you were searching for an 'enlightening video on quantum physics' that would indicate you have more yet to learn about quantum physics...and yet you have the audacity to accuse somebody who is a university professor with a PHD as spouting 'quasi-science'...when you yourself don't know the ins and outs!!
anamolies occur in science, doesn't mean they are wrong or to be dismissed because they don't agree with the current prevailing scientific paradigm.
Very interesting. If you've ever experienced things that are "impossible" or "unexplainable" by modern scientific principles, then you're not alone. Hopefully, science will begin to open up to the possibilities being researched as we speak. On to part 2!
1. There is nothing in the evidence showing how the universe was established to suggest any conscious force was directing it. Unless you know how the universe was formed or how life came from non-life, any claim suggesting that a "god did it" is between a guess and a lie.
2. There are plenty of mythologies that have creation myths, tales of fictional kings and lords speaking with gods, god-spawned heros performing miracles, and end of the world myths. And Christianity is no different.
In 1975 Geller published his first autobiography, My Story, and acknowledged his performances were usually sprinkled with magicians' tricks because if the spoon bending didn't work his show would be pretty dull. Since then he has been heavily debunked by skeptics such as James Randi, who have demonstrated how his feats could be duplicated through the magician's art.
That´s from Wikipedia.
And, I´m afraid but your parents were the Tooth Fairy.
I read Uris book. tell me exactly where it says it was a magicians trick.... and you need to look things up before you post...... go google (I cant seem to post a website) "uri geller scientific tests" and read the controlled experiments. ....atheists must make excuses for what is clearly in fron of them or their philosophical apple carts will get over turned
"Early in Geller's career "a man who had attended one of Geller's shows was dissatisfied and took Geller to court on the ground that he had cheated by using magician's tricks rather than displaying true psychic powers as promised."[56] An Israeli court ruled in favor of the plaintiff, and ordered Geller to pay court costs as well as the price of the ticket."
And this is not the only instance when his "powers" were put to the test.
the "controlled" experiments were done at SRI International by a couple of scientologists who only held Uri Geller in an adjoining room with and open intercom and a hole in the connecting wall which the "scientists" preparing the experiments thought was sufficiently filled with surgical gauze. SRI has since recanted their position and no longer feel the experiment was adequately controlled.
I may be highly skeptical but I certainly would be open to listening or observing. I'm the first person to go check out a haunting but I don't believe in hauntings - but I'd love to be proven wrong as I would in many things that are presented that go against the grain of convention. The willingness to investigate makes for a much more interesting life.
I like that way of thinking! Most skeptics I know of are really up their own ass about it, but heaven forbid they go out and find out for themselves! I think they suffer from too much arrogance, because what if they poo-poo'ed something for years and then they turn out to be wrong? That means they've been wrong for years, thinking that they were right!
Also, the term nut house is offensive due to the fact that hitler started killing off the mentaly ill before he got around to slaughtering the hebrew people.
This makes perfect, logical sense. From his analysis of the "stupidity hypothesis," to the "big taboo" of mainstream scientists not being able to talk about "it" openly, even though the largest majority of them would like to. Very interesting.
It's got NOTHING to do with him "getting to close" to anything! Where's the goddamn proof? That's all I need to see. Then I'll give his views the consideration they professedly deserve.
Critical thinking ability does not come naturally...it must be learned and developed, you do not need an education to develop critical thinking skills, but you will need the native intelligence to do so...
this guy is a fucking idiot,,, the idea that because u as a human being did not complete the level of education that others have for whatever reason means you do not possess the cognitive or reasoning skills that a higher educated person may possess, is absurd,, people dont pursue higher levels of education for various reasons many of which have nothing to do with their reasoning or cognative skills ,,, 3:21 educated idiot
You are projecting your idiocy onto Dr Radin. If you read his book entangled minds you will see all the evidence and reference sources yourself. People like you need to wake up and then face up to what is really going on.
look, im not saying hes an idiot because his facts are off, im saying that many people dont further there education levels for far more reasons than a lack of cognitive or reasoning skills, do you think poor people are somehow mentally inferior because they dont have the money to pursue higher education? thats what this numbnuts is implying. if you cant see that in my previous comment then i'd rather stay asleep then subscibe to this dreamworld you live in,
He is implying that people don't think critically enough. If you are a poor person living in a third world African country you are not going to have the time nor inclination to be to concerned about Entanglement. Just getting the basics food and water presents its own problems.
As for the Dream world I live in that is exactly what it is. The only difference between me and you is I am conscious it is a dream world whil you are unconscious of it.
rewatch the video, on 3:17 "you can kinda make a guess that people who are not very well educated can be diluted into thinking things because they dont have the critical thinking apparatus" hell of a generalization dont ya think, hes not speaking specifically of pop. in third world countries, hes speaking of any one without a degree, thats bs.. because my parents couldnt afford a college for me, in the good drs opinion i dont have critical thinking skills. and i am aware of the fake world.
I don't need to you are personalising his comments and that is effecting your ability to reason things out imho. If you think about it he is right, the more you are involved in any kind of labour the less time you have to devote to develop and harness the skills needed for critical thinking.
try proofreading, seriously, reread your comment, your errors reflect your generalization, once again your degree or level of education does not reflect your critical thinking apparatus, in general, nor does your involvement in labor.. have you ever been involved in any kind of labor, the fact that you work all day does not effect your ability to harness critical thinking skills, there are 24 hours in a day, plenty of time to think, if you so desire, regardless of education level
No need to proof read this is not an English exam that is your cop out. As for manual labour yep been there and done it, it does not leave any time for the Critical thinking skills called upon by Radin. You sound seriously deluded and out of touch.
i agree, this is no english class, however if you dont type in proper sentence structure, you have no room to argue critical thinking skills, as for manual labor, i have worked 12 or 16 hour shifts before and have still found time to study quantum physics without the luxury of a university, so your arguement holds no water.... your right im "seriuosly deluded" how could i have thaught i would be able to carry on an intelligent conversation with you without being slandered,, good job
Oh Dear, you want proper grammar and cannot spell correctly lol and how do you equate senstence structure with critical thinking skills? It just does not compute and you are right I cannot carry on an intelligent debate with a bufoon.
the fake world that we all live in and are financially unable to crawl out of, i see the bs that goes on here daily, but what are you going to do about it,, that has absolutely nothing to do with mr. radins views on the uneducated, however since i dont have a degree i guess im not allowed or unabel to think critically,,,,, what a dipshit
Wow... You took what Radin said WAAAAAY too personal!
I congratulate you on following the Mark Twain style of "never let schooling interfere with one's education", but I think you're mistaking the forest for the trees. What you have done is the exception, not the rule, and of course, with any rule, there are always exceptions. But Radin is talking about the general attitude, not every single person. It's taken as assumed that there are exceptions, because there are ALWAYS exceptions.
he's not saying that...he's saying if you do go into lengthy periods of establishment education you're likely to be indoctrinated into a school of thought that may not be your own. i think you completely misconstrued what he was saying.
Notice that he used a sweeping generalization of "college profesors" and never once suggested that the statistical analysis should be applied only to the professors of natural sciences.
If he were to do so, his argument would fall apart at the seems....
Mainstream science says NOTHING of the supernatural or psychic. Science can only comment on that which it can empirically test. Since no psychic phenomenon has ever been documented and tested positive, there can be no official discourse.
If educated people are starting to defend mysticism, as they did 100 years ago, this world is in huge trouble. Is science really being discarded? This is sad...
pssst...wanna know a secret? dean radin works for the institue of noetic science...theyre part of the new age "one world consciousness" movement...ie the new world order - meaning he is a 100% liar
if i put the paper on the doll, the doll and the people entangled through the mind, i use the paper to curse the people, the people maybe influenced, that is true in traditional chinese widget casting their spell, the mind is the hub between the image of the human and doll
Flat batteries... or perhaps time is relative to the observers' intentions... or it might just be God almighty, having fun with us stupid humans, who he blames for doing what he created us to do; which was bad.
what is wanted is not the will to believe, but the desire to find out, which is the exact opposite. beliefs are simply wishes without substance. finding out is the unfolding of knowing. the paradox is, you have to believe it to see it.
because there really is nothing to see. what we see does not exist.. what we do not see is Truth. it is omnipresent, it is the light we see by, the Truth by which we live. do not attempt to impose reality onto God by saying 'this can not be real' or 'people who believe that are crazy' ... by releasing our ideas and perceptions we experience the world the way it truly is - perfect, beautiful, unchanging.. a living wonderland. it makes no sense to the conceptualizing mind.
The world is beautiful but imperfect. Life will always be in a constant state of flux. To make the claim of perfection is to make the claim that nothing needs to change, which is a fallacy. I believe it makes sense to objectively understand everything we can and negate all notions of "magic" if we are ever to become a truly enlightened species.
It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -Carl Sagan
The reason for this "scientific mindset" is because people (including judges) allowed the atheists/naturalists in science to dictate what science is and what science is not. The atheists have successfully legislated their religion of "naturalism at all costs":based from the laughably ridiculous falsification method (liberal logic).
Scientists that believe in a non Darwinian explanation need to grow a spine and speak up about what they believe and stop letting the naturalists intimidate them
toobsucker 1 month ago
@toobsucker Falsification is a bad thing? What kind of dark age sociopath are you? Keep your snake oil and lies, evil man.
basmithtx 1 month ago
@basmithtx "Falsification is a bad thing?"
Falsification rejects things that can not be proven to be false, its compete foolishness. The liberal minds have removed logic & reason from science. That which can not be prove to be false (unfalsifiable) is then assumed to be false and rejected based on the fact it can not be proven false.
The concept is ridiculous and created solely to keep God out.. And falsification is broken when needed with the multiverse & M theory.
Hypocrites
toobsucker 1 month ago
@toobsucker Falsification doesn't "reject" anything. It only says that an assertion should be presented in a manner that the possibility of being shown as wrong, partially wrong or incomplete can arise - like stating "all apples are red" can be falsified by showing a green apple. How is that illogical or unreasonable? What is "the liberal minds", anyways?
basmithtx 1 month ago
@basmithtx "Falsification doesn't "reject" anything"
Of course it does, it rejects anything that is unfalsifiable, this includes everything that maybe true & valid but not yet verifiable. All of quantum physics would have been unfalsifiable "super natural" nonsense to science 150 years ago.
If an investigator of a crime ruled out a suspect based on the grounds he could not be ruled out (falsified) he would be fired on the spot.
Logic can only reject what is known to be false
toobsucker 1 month ago
@toobsucker It no more "rejects" non-falsifiable things any more than a ruler "rejects" something too short or too long to be measured.
Your investigator example is also flawed. A non-falsifiable alibi keeps the suspect in the investigation's arena, while a falsifiable one (aka witnesses) allows the investigators to make judgement calls. However, just like science, the investigator always keeps potential suspects in mind, and no suspect is utterly "rejected" from all consideration.
basmithtx 1 month ago
@basmithtx "Your investigator example is also flawed. A non-falsifiable alibi keeps the suspect in the investigation's arena"
Yes it does in an investigation. This is my point, Science does not work this way. Unless a theory has the capability of being proven false, it can not be used by science. Popper considered a hypotheses that is unfalsifiable to be pseudo science because there is no way to prove it to be false.
Google "falsifiability criterion of demarcation" and study
toobsucker 1 month ago
@basmithtx "It no more "rejects" non-falsifiable things any more than a ruler "rejects" something too short or too long to be measured"
I suggest you study Poppers demarcation. A theory must be capable of being proven false, if a theory does not have the ability to be proven false, it is considered "non-scientific". Only theories that can be proven false are considered scientific
As I said science breaks falsification all the time.Falsification exists for one reason, to keep God out
toobsucker 1 month ago
@toobsucker Popper talks about falsification being important to critical discussion, but he doesn't outright reject the value of ordinary logical analysis.
It seems a bit arrogant to say your particular brand of religion has anything to do with the development of falsification. However, I'd say that science is generally happy to be proven wrong, but you presumably cannot tolerate the possibility. If something rejects the potential for being wrong, it seems specious to label it as science.
basmithtx 1 month ago
@basmithtx "It seems a bit arrogant to say your particular brand of religion has anything to do with the development of falsification"
I suggest you study this before you debate it.
Google "Science and Pseudo-Science", the first link is a Stanford site Popper was a liberal atheist that invented falsification for the sole purpose of keeping the "metaphysical" out of science.
"He [Popper] refuted verifiability as a criterion for a scientific theory or hypothesis to be scientific"
toobsucker 1 month ago
@toobsucker "I suggest you study this before you debate it."
Uh, you too.
In fact, maybe you skim through Popper's book rather than taking whatever your propaganda source is at face value.
basmithtx 1 month ago
@basmithtx "In fact, maybe you skim through Popper's book rather than taking whatever your propaganda source is at face value"
I know what Popper believed, as do all scientists. Popper rejected logical positivism unlike what you want to believe. Look up "Logical positivism & Popper" and read.
Popper did not rule out unfalsifiable hypotheses may at some time in the future become falsifiable, but while they remain unfalsifiable , they also remain "non-scientific" (Samir Okasha)
toobsucker 1 month ago
@toobsucker It's clear that you're only going to view things in absolutist all-or-nothing terms, particularly if it involves in some way portraying yourself as some sort of "victim". This is pointless.
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@basmithtx "What is "the liberal minds", anyways?"
A liberal mind (over 90% of atheists) looks for reasons not to believe things, this is the basis of falsification & skepticism.
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People don't realize that this is just as crazy as Einstiens thoery of relativity, But as time passed more people where able to test it, hence more acceptence of his theory by more people, even Christians nowadays.... SO just wait Quantum Mechanics will prove to be whacky and true mark my words.
AntiCreationism 3 months ago in playlist Quantum Physics - Anti Gravity - Free Energy
Misused the term schizophrenic....
hollybee43 3 months ago
I'm sure the physicists and mathematicians who first proposed that there might be additional dimensions or even parallell universes were mocked and considered insane by their peers. Nonetheless string theory is today a quite well-respected field of theoretical physics. People often forget how ridiculous many of the ideas we regard as mainstream today were considered just a few decades ago. If there were real evidence for the existence of the paranormal it would have been on the table by now!
buugiman78 3 months ago in playlist Quantum Physics - Anti Gravity - Free Energy
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buugiman78 3 months ago in playlist Quantum Physics - Anti Gravity - Free Energy
What did this guy get his PhD in? There just giving those things away these days.
No1Brawler 3 months ago
@No1Brawler You obviously how no clue what hes talking about...
AntiCreationism 3 months ago in playlist Quantum Physics - Anti Gravity - Free Energy
@AntiCreationism You obviously have no clue what hes talking about.. - See how easy it is to make comments with nothing to back it up.
No1Brawler 3 months ago
@No1Brawler His entire interview is basicly pointing out that quantum mechanics has showen to be very strange and even seem magical, and this way of thinking is the science community is a big no no.. So for you to say " Where did this guy get his Phd from, are they just handing them out now" says that you completely miss read his entire interview.
AntiCreationism 3 months ago
@AntiCreationism As you'll hear the quote from physicists, "if you think you know quantum physics, you don't know quantam physics". Great minds admit that Quantum Physics is unusual and not understood, but you can't use those words: magical or spooky. All we can say is we don't understand it, full stop. Let's suspend our judgement no matter what they may be until more is known. For a PhD to speak like this on the subject gives gullible idiots ammunition.
No1Brawler 3 months ago
@No1Brawler Agreed :)
AntiCreationism 2 months ago
I always appreciate his step-by-step analytical manner and the politeness with which he addresses criticisms... he also maintains that politeness even when faced with really rude or stupid people!
Fournier46 4 months ago
what does psychic phenomena have to do with quantum physics.
shaneymane15 6 months ago
@shaneymane15 He uses quantam physics, in the context of observing "psychic phenomena". A quantam physicist observes patterns or a lack of patterns in the motion of subatomic particles, and Dean Radin gathers experiments which demonstrate someone consciously creating a pattern in subatomic particles.
Lukecash12 5 months ago
@Lukecash12 Well, it's certain that when I think I affect subatomic particles. Neurology is all about chemistry right, and when chemicals change it of course also affect the subatomic particles. Does that make me a psychic? Of course not. The experiment you are suggesting would be very simple to execute. Observe a grain of sand on an subatomic level. Ask an alleged psychic person to affect the grain of sand and see if anything happens. Still, is the evidence forthcoming?
buugiman78 3 months ago in playlist Quantum Physics - Anti Gravity - Free Energy
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IceAges14Aces 6 months ago
This is just conspiracy theory crap. Basing his argument on saying there are all these hidden people out there is no way of presenting an idea. He's a prize fuckwit. Invisble college? My arse.
arktiro 7 months ago
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PancakePlease 7 months ago
@PancakePlease You're right, Radin is as dumb as they come.
arktiro 7 months ago
This is just conspiracy theory crap. Basing his argument on saying there are all these hidden people out there is no way of presenting an idea. He's a prize fuckwit.
arktiro 7 months ago
You are just compensating for your baldness
atescoop 7 months ago
I really like Dean Radin, but doesn't he look like Ned Flanders.
fntime 7 months ago
Many people here claim there is ‘no evidence’. In fact, there have been thousands of controlled and independently replicated lab experiments that have provided evidence for the existence of psi. Dean Radin has compiled many of them in ‘The Conscious Universe’ (an appendix is included with the original sources/publications if you want to verify them yourself).The dispute isn’t over whether the evidence exists; skeptics and parapsychologists both agree it does. Rather, the dispute lies...cont.
GermanOperaSinger 7 months ago
@GermanOperaSinger cont. from above...over how to interpret this evidence. I won’t say I know for sure whether psi phenomena is real or not. But I feel this field deserves further extensive research. Of course, no amount of evidence will ever spark a pseudo-skeptic’s interest. They aren’t interested in finding out the truth, only in protecting their prejudiced ideological worldview rooted in reductive materialism.
GermanOperaSinger 7 months ago
@GermanOperaSinger Even though I'm a skeptic, I have to agree with your conclusion. Parapsychological research, such as the Ganzfeld Meta-Studies, deserve to be taken under further consideration since these meta-studies have clearly showed (Even to the skeptics) that something interesting is going on. Personally, I don't believe that ESP & PK can be scientifically proven; however, I can say that they may be real. You're right, pseudoskeptics will never admit it due to their profound bigotry.
IceAges14Aces 6 months ago
@IceAges14Aces I'm a skeptic as well, but I try to be as objective as possible. As I mentioned below, acknowledging that this phenomena may be real doesn't mean advocating mysticism/paranormal. If it is real, it is simply a natural phenomena for which we don't currently have a scientific model/mechanism to explain. As I said before, we should be more humble with respect to what we think we understand about the nature of reality. Science doesn't mean explaining the unknown in terms of the known.
GermanOperaSinger 6 months ago
@GermanOperaSinger Indeed, just because psi has been moved from the realm of nonsense to the border of ok, it may be real doesn't mean other paranormal/supernatural phenomena may be real. Whether it's ghosts, The Lock Ness Monster, etc. it's irrelevant. Even though I agree that something interesting is going on, I disagree with Radin's quantum theory & I personally think ESP/PK are just abstracts that help us comprehend the overwhelming data. Hey, ESP/ PK may be real, but you'll never know...
IceAges14Aces 6 months ago
@GermanOperaSinger well "the conscious universe" isn't really a good example to back up your point..radin has been bending the truth extensively in this book...especially his so called metastudy was critisised by the scientific world since it wasn't clear why he included/excluded studies...in fact he just seemed to take studies that supported his point...it's not about the quantity but the quality of studies, you know...especialy in the field of psi research designing meaningful studies is hard
stauffap 6 months ago
@stauffap True, but selective report occurs in all branches of science. I've interned and worked in several medical labs from respectable universities around the world, and all of them had hundreds of unsuccessful experiments filed away. Parapsychology is simply scrutinized more than other branches, so this issue comes up more...cont.
GermanOperaSinger 6 months ago
...Regardless, in most of these studies, statistically the odds showing a positive correlation are high enough to where the unsuccessful experiments to balance them out to chance would take ages to conduct (i.e. for the Ganzfeld one would have to conduct experiments back to back 24 hours a day for nearly 40 years before the results were balanced out to chance).
GermanOperaSinger 6 months ago
@GermanOperaSinger That doesn't make what he does any better. But yeah, i guess there is a taboo in psi research. But it doesn't surprise me, just look at how many frauds are out there, claiming to have psi abilities, but they never put them to the test and if they do they fail. Why has nobody won james randis million dollar price? I've never seen a psi ability so far that can't be faked convincingly. So yeah, maybe some psi phenomenon are real, that would be cool, but i think it's unprobable.
stauffap 6 months ago
@stauffap I can't honestly take the Randi prize seriously because it is a moving goalpost. It has unrealistic demands; most mainstream scientific experiments would not pass it. I don't think he ever intended it to be won. Frauds happen in parapsychology but also in mainstream, but for many tests such as precog., mainstream psychology tests have been examined that show the same effect...
GermanOperaSinger 6 months ago
...Most of these tests are do not involve single persons claiming to have extraordinary powers, but large groups of college students, volunteers, and other John Doe's just interested in the experiments. Not people who would've been able to fake psi abilities convincingly. Again, it's possible that all the tests were frauds, but I find there to be no motive so that argument is rather unconvincing.
GermanOperaSinger 6 months ago
@GermanOperaSinger yes, but mainstream psychology calls it extrasensory perception and therefore thinks that it's just an uncounscious calculation that leads to a feeling/conclusion that might be mistaken as precognition.
stauffap 6 months ago
@stauffap That's entirely possible. I'm not saying there is a paranormal phenomena involved, I actually don't believe there is such a thing as supernatural. There are several possibilities that can account for the data which include: 1. fraud, which I find to be unlikely considering the quantity of data involved, 2. what you call 'an unconscious calculation, 3. it is a natural phenomena that we currently lack a scientific model/mechanism to explain...
GermanOperaSinger 6 months ago
...10000yrs ago people couldn't explain why the sun rose. But it was still a natural, not supernatural phenomena. I just think we should be a little more humble with respect to what we think we understand about the nature of reality. I'm not advocating mysticism, new age, paranormal, magical thinking, etc. at all. Cheers
GermanOperaSinger 6 months ago
@stauffap "in fact he just seemed to take studies that supported his point..."
Your criticism is groundless due to its sheer ignorance (No offence). Dean Radin has never excluded independent, negative studies from the meta-analyses and he proved it by using a statistical concept known as the funnel-plot. Furthermore, not all of the meta-analyses implied in his book are his, e.g. Ganzfeld.
IceAges14Aces 6 months ago
@IceAges14Aces lol...you're right that one sentence you quoted was unfortunate and of course not true.
What i meant was that he wasn't very critical in the studies he included into the metastudies of course.
I mean come on! have you ever read the crap radin is talking about? He thinks that the indian rope trick is real! lol...Eastern yogis could actually read minds, see accurately into the past,
present and future and even levitate. He asks:"What do they know that we don't
know?" ...lol
stauffap 6 months ago
@stauffap Can you please tell me which part wasn't he critical on his meta-analyses and the outlandish claims he supposedly said???
I never heard Radin saying that, but if what you say is true, then he is a very gullible, self-delusional person when it comes to conjurers.....
IceAges14Aces 6 months ago
@IceAges14Aces Well, first of all metastudies are a very controversial subject in science and not generally accepted(see wikipedia). Second of all what Radin does is get a buch of studies with non significant results, combine them and suddenly get significant results( Robert Todd Carroll's detailed review of the conscious universe)....you can find the thing about yogis in "Dean
Radin Lecture Entangled Minds at Theosophy Hall" ...Goolge: Dean-radin-interview fakirs indian rope
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@stauffap Yes, meta-analyses are controversial since they are open to systematic biases & these biases are somewhat prevalent in other meta-studies. In fact, some medical meta-studies that were approved by the FDA were actually flawed due to publication bias. Anyway, what is wrong with Radin adding and combing negative studies??? In a meta-analysis, you have to combine negative studies; otherwise, it will profoundly inflate the overall estimate of the effect-size, which makes it unrealiable.
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@stauffap By the way, thanks for the source. I'll check it out later...
IceAges14Aces 6 months ago
True scientists do not set up a straw man context of being a victim to establish credibility.
alolfan1 8 months ago
Did you not hear him say it is not him who is doing the research, but that he promotes communication between parties interested in collaborating, and that those people were getting successful results? Not every discourse needs to include evidence, especially when the goal is to point to the research that is being done. I consider it unfortunate for you that you are not comfortable with this sort of conceptualization.
mknomad5 8 months ago
It is like Darwin should have said, "Waaaaah. Nobody likes my theory of the origin of the species. The royal society are a bunch of assholes!" Publish you data, and if it holds, you will suddenly be seen as a vaunted genius. Nobody likes a cry-baby.
NanoFishMan 8 months ago
I am sorry, Dr. Radin, but instead of being a cry-baby, shouldn't you be showing indisputable evidence of paranormal activity? I am more interested in your proofs, not in your feelings of inferiority. I think that any scientist would love to have written the paper that absolutely proves remote viewing, for example.
NanoFishMan 8 months ago
@zapped17 or as biased as a Darwinist reading the bible...lol
JosephBenczarski 9 months ago
I want to be in his brain for a day
smokenfly514 10 months ago
Quantum physics?
Maybe change the title?!
levivelivel 11 months ago 2
he does not have a phd in quantum physics!!!!!!!!!
jsymons1985 1 year ago
He believes in evolution?
Batamon1997 1 year ago
Quantum Mechanics is hard to explain, therefore hocus pocus completely unrelated to physics shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. Hmmmm, sounds plausible!
SamuSamuWa 1 year ago
You guys are so stupid ... and it's not a hypothesis ... the lowest degree that an idea can have in science ...
ceaos 1 year ago
John Chilton Pearce in his book Evolution's End, asks, how do savants know what they know? These are people that generally do not have the ability to learn. He goes on to suggest that they are able to tap into a wave-field of knowledge. We all have this capacity which is attributed to the neocortex. It would some that some psi experiences fall into this realm.
atthehops 1 year ago
I love how psychologists talk and criticize science and scientists... Yet they can't come up with a single, useful and predictive theory. Guess it's all envy of the real science-practicioners.
Murdulo 1 year ago 2
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are u referring to Dean?
BurningHeretics 1 year ago
lol, typical...i too wish i could get a gig researching something as fun as that, and where none will really expect results. Maybe i will get in to banking, seems they do not expect results there also as proof to their bonuses for their total failure.
masluxx 1 year ago
The video title can be mis-interpreted.
Dean Radin is a PhD(Educational Psychology) talking about Quantum Physics.
Spirits1234 1 year ago
Many years ago, if you tried to explain or demonstrate to someone what a black hole is, then people (Including scientist) would call you crazy and say it defies the laws of Physics. Well, physicist are already accepting the fact that black holes (Astronomy), non-locality (Quantum Physics), and time travel (Physics) exists. As you could see, Science has it's own limit in knowledge. Psychic phenomena is still controversial, but hey, even Issac Newton's laws were controversial in those days.
angelsssssssssssss 1 year ago
It's simple, if you can demonstrate woo-woo physics then go and pick up your million dollars from James Randi. All you have to do is pass a double blind test. watch?v=sesamjLNHlU
Tapecutter59 1 year ago
right.....
melingom 1 year ago
very interesting indeed. thanks for posting this!
catandpiddle 1 year ago
this is good video
Zee96969696 1 year ago
Oh dont you just luuuuv The Radin? Like luv luv luv him? Doesnt he just make you smile and feel great to be alive? LIfe is good, the universe and our knowledge of it is expanding and the more open minded we are, the more fun we'll have with it all. Thanks Do5e for posting, like ya style.
RexEdwardFairy 1 year ago
I like this man.
candyberriche 1 year ago
Educated people believe does`t mean it 's true!
you do not have to deny because James Randi have 1 million U.S. dollars for this experiments!
Let the science prove you are wrong again!
darkouljp 1 year ago
PhD in Quantum Physics? Ha! Wikipedia him and you'll see... the lengths these people go to to promote this crap!
pedazodeboludo 1 year ago
Yeah,burn the heretic at the stake!
MM28262 1 year ago
@pedazodeboludo
It says Ph.D ON quantum physics.
idiot.
venik88 1 year ago
How?
BurningHeretics 1 year ago
Quantum Physics!
LOL
Change the title!
al01ja15 1 year ago
Notice his clock is set at 11:11
toobsucker 2 years ago
I Like this. I mean we can't say we know something especially this day and age. We never know
TomPMelanson 2 years ago
Exactly. They've just seized upon the new revelations that quantum theory has unveiled and proclaimed it as their new avenue of research - indubitably they exhausted all the others! The very notion that a human brain, without utilizing any apparatus, could possibly manipulate or even interfere with the quantum particles in their immediate surroundings (and purportedly beyond) is bloody absurd!
You may call me a "skeptic", but why would I give credence to an unsubstantiated theory? I need proof.
BassVirtual 2 years ago
keep in mind though, science is ever changing and correcting itself, what we believe to be real and true now in 100 years time may be looked back on as silly and niaeve.
i don't get it...is quantum physics NOT a new avenue of research?? are you suggesting we stay in static mindset merely because we haven't the 'proof'? many well established scientific theories were born and proofs discovered from the ability to project ideas beyond the current prevailing worldview.
staceymcr13 1 year ago
If your interested in psi I made a couple of short films you may like :)
metaRising 2 years ago
Is intuition as drakemorrow eluded to a form of a crude psychic ability? I mean crude in a sence that we only use 10% of our brain capacity. Is the ability to do reliable expiriments on psychic abilty difficult & "hit & miss" because of the 10% brain usage? If we had more access to our brains, would psychic abilities accerate & experiments be more reliable & consistant? Are we learning that that there is no supernatualism & no reductionism as well? what is the alernative to both dogmas? quantum?
Bodhi510 2 years ago
WE DO NOT USE 10% OF OUR BRAIN!!!
Never proufed
serum1267 2 years ago
@serum1267 : Your right. We actualy use 5% of our brain power.
Bodhi510 2 years ago
@serum1267 To clarify. We use every part of our brain or in other terms 100%. But at any single time we are using only specific parts of our brain at any given moment. So people are nieve in thinking that we only use 10% of our brain when in fact we use the entire thing but at any given moment only specific portions.
Blazen1212 2 years ago
I was searching for an enlightening video on quantum physics not quasi-science based on wishes. Psychic abilities never reliably been shown through experimentation and logically do not have a Darwinian foundation. If there would psychics of any measure they would have a significant advantage and would thus rise quickly in the gene pool. This is not the case and although there may be selection pressures to encourage psychic ability it would show only as intuition which all would share.
DrakeMorrow 2 years ago
i'm glad you wrote that - throws his whole argument out the window
coyler1736 2 years ago
Very good post, and very good points.
And, if these psions or psychics were in society, they would have an advantage. This is mentioned around 5:18 in this video, when he says that an academic interest is growing. The reason only an interest grows, vice a 'psychic' population, could be because it still isnt accepted in today's society. Also, psychics arent necessarily born as such. Psionics is perhaps not genetic so much as it is based on experiences in ones life. Just a thought
Wuddigot 2 years ago
fntime 2 years ago 3
That may be so, and as such it is better to be open-minded about "parapsychological" beliefs, just in case you encounter them "for real". However this doesn't mean you have to espouse them or even contemplate them at length, particularly if you find the notion ridiculous (but not expressly insurmountable).
BassVirtual 2 years ago
if you were searching for an 'enlightening video on quantum physics' that would indicate you have more yet to learn about quantum physics...and yet you have the audacity to accuse somebody who is a university professor with a PHD as spouting 'quasi-science'...when you yourself don't know the ins and outs!!
anamolies occur in science, doesn't mean they are wrong or to be dismissed because they don't agree with the current prevailing scientific paradigm.
staceymcr13 1 year ago
@DrakeMorrow to be fair, psychic ability would not neccessarily by selected if normal mental capacities are sufficient for survival.
lookatmepleasesir 1 year ago
Very interesting. If you've ever experienced things that are "impossible" or "unexplainable" by modern scientific principles, then you're not alone. Hopefully, science will begin to open up to the possibilities being researched as we speak. On to part 2!
Nofate1313 2 years ago
TURNING POINT anyone???
sophiavbfleury 2 years ago 9
What God? Any?
alo465 2 years ago
There is also an atheists agenda within acadimia that keeps them from talking of it.
Because they know IF this "super natural" door is opened they wont be able to keep the discussion of God out
toobsucker 2 years ago
God isn't real. Consciousness is.
NavinJohnson90 2 years ago 4
How do you KNOW God isnt real?
toobsucker 2 years ago
Easy
1. There is nothing in the evidence showing how the universe was established to suggest any conscious force was directing it. Unless you know how the universe was formed or how life came from non-life, any claim suggesting that a "god did it" is between a guess and a lie.
2. There are plenty of mythologies that have creation myths, tales of fictional kings and lords speaking with gods, god-spawned heros performing miracles, and end of the world myths. And Christianity is no different.
Xerock 2 years ago
Why don´t they claim the million pounds (or euros) that are on offer for anyone who demonstrates to have any psi weirdness?
alo465 2 years ago
Uri Geller already proved it years ago under observation
toobsucker 2 years ago
In 1975 Geller published his first autobiography, My Story, and acknowledged his performances were usually sprinkled with magicians' tricks because if the spoon bending didn't work his show would be pretty dull. Since then he has been heavily debunked by skeptics such as James Randi, who have demonstrated how his feats could be duplicated through the magician's art.
That´s from Wikipedia.
And, I´m afraid but your parents were the Tooth Fairy.
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toobsucker 2 years ago
I read Uris book. tell me exactly where it says it was a magicians trick.... and you need to look things up before you post...... go google (I cant seem to post a website) "uri geller scientific tests" and read the controlled experiments. ....atheists must make excuses for what is clearly in fron of them or their philosophical apple carts will get over turned
toobsucker 2 years ago
Yeah! Whatever.
"Early in Geller's career "a man who had attended one of Geller's shows was dissatisfied and took Geller to court on the ground that he had cheated by using magician's tricks rather than displaying true psychic powers as promised."[56] An Israeli court ruled in favor of the plaintiff, and ordered Geller to pay court costs as well as the price of the ticket."
And this is not the only instance when his "powers" were put to the test.
alo465 2 years ago
the "controlled" experiments were done at SRI International by a couple of scientologists who only held Uri Geller in an adjoining room with and open intercom and a hole in the connecting wall which the "scientists" preparing the experiments thought was sufficiently filled with surgical gauze. SRI has since recanted their position and no longer feel the experiment was adequately controlled.
There is no excuse for your stupidity.
Xerock 2 years ago
because that offer is a con.
staceymcr13 1 year ago
What do you mean? In which way? Because it doesn´t confirm your belief system?
alo465 1 year ago
dropouts are sceptics too, just so you people know.
nsewx 2 years ago
I may be highly skeptical but I certainly would be open to listening or observing. I'm the first person to go check out a haunting but I don't believe in hauntings - but I'd love to be proven wrong as I would in many things that are presented that go against the grain of convention. The willingness to investigate makes for a much more interesting life.
billoakesattablthree 2 years ago
I like that way of thinking! Most skeptics I know of are really up their own ass about it, but heaven forbid they go out and find out for themselves! I think they suffer from too much arrogance, because what if they poo-poo'ed something for years and then they turn out to be wrong? That means they've been wrong for years, thinking that they were right!
Ouch! What an ego bruise! haha!
eatthatmeatball 2 years ago 5
Great info...
thechangee 2 years ago 2
how many docs, psychiatrists, dentist are suicidal... if u sit anyone down, analyze them i do believe a "Label" can be put upon them ...
oh we have Kay Redfield Jamieson (sp?) famous bi-polar psychiatrist... then we have James Redfield of Celestine Vision ...
rather or not they are related i do not know
2 ends of the spectrum if they are...
interesting "concept"
Phoenix4Changes 2 years ago
Did this guy get his degree in a cereal box?
AThagoras 2 years ago
Schizophrenia is NOT a split personality.
Also, the term nut house is offensive due to the fact that hitler started killing off the mentaly ill before he got around to slaughtering the hebrew people.
If you want real science get a torah.
azkeyz 2 years ago
The torah. HAAAHAHAHAHA! Very funny.
ashburnhouse 2 years ago
Uh, sorry, but could you refer me to one explicit scientific reference in the Torah?
BassVirtual 2 years ago
Dude is a spitting image of Wally Cox.
voxchaos 2 years ago
This makes perfect, logical sense. From his analysis of the "stupidity hypothesis," to the "big taboo" of mainstream scientists not being able to talk about "it" openly, even though the largest majority of them would like to. Very interesting.
mermadeinheaven 2 years ago
This guy is a quack.
ReligionIsACrutch 2 years ago
Why is he a Quack? because he's getting too close to proving atheists, such as yourself wrong?
I don believe in God, I don't believe in religion, religion is crap.
why are you saying he's crazy? I guess your a genius hey? let's get you on Jay Leno.
As you know the secrets of the Universe, and the meaning of life...you completely understand the Theory of Relativity, and Unified Field Theory hey?
I remain "Open to the POSSIBILITY" on many things
You could be wrong, or I could be wrong
1981z28camaro 2 years ago 2
It's got NOTHING to do with him "getting to close" to anything! Where's the goddamn proof? That's all I need to see. Then I'll give his views the consideration they professedly deserve.
BassVirtual 2 years ago
@BassVirtual
The placebo effect is an example of FAITH / MIND interacting with the elements (your body) and making changes
toobsucker 2 years ago
and what basis do you provide for that?
knightabraxas 2 years ago
He's the reincarnation of Wally Cox.
voxchaos 2 years ago
Critical thinking ability does not come naturally...it must be learned and developed, you do not need an education to develop critical thinking skills, but you will need the native intelligence to do so...
alchemistra 2 years ago
Look at the clock in the background 11:11
Get's you thinking! :-)
lasercat10cc 3 years ago
this guy is a fucking idiot,,, the idea that because u as a human being did not complete the level of education that others have for whatever reason means you do not possess the cognitive or reasoning skills that a higher educated person may possess, is absurd,, people dont pursue higher levels of education for various reasons many of which have nothing to do with their reasoning or cognative skills ,,, 3:21 educated idiot
xd1rtx 3 years ago
You are projecting your idiocy onto Dr Radin. If you read his book entangled minds you will see all the evidence and reference sources yourself. People like you need to wake up and then face up to what is really going on.
whitenightf3 2 years ago
look, im not saying hes an idiot because his facts are off, im saying that many people dont further there education levels for far more reasons than a lack of cognitive or reasoning skills, do you think poor people are somehow mentally inferior because they dont have the money to pursue higher education? thats what this numbnuts is implying. if you cant see that in my previous comment then i'd rather stay asleep then subscibe to this dreamworld you live in,
xd1rtx 2 years ago
He is implying that people don't think critically enough. If you are a poor person living in a third world African country you are not going to have the time nor inclination to be to concerned about Entanglement. Just getting the basics food and water presents its own problems.
As for the Dream world I live in that is exactly what it is. The only difference between me and you is I am conscious it is a dream world whil you are unconscious of it.
whitenightf3 2 years ago
rewatch the video, on 3:17 "you can kinda make a guess that people who are not very well educated can be diluted into thinking things because they dont have the critical thinking apparatus" hell of a generalization dont ya think, hes not speaking specifically of pop. in third world countries, hes speaking of any one without a degree, thats bs.. because my parents couldnt afford a college for me, in the good drs opinion i dont have critical thinking skills. and i am aware of the fake world.
xd1rtx 2 years ago
I don't need to you are personalising his comments and that is effecting your ability to reason things out imho. If you think about it he is right, the more you are involved in any kind of labour the less time you have to devote to develop and harness the skills needed for critical thinking.
whitenightf3 2 years ago
try proofreading, seriously, reread your comment, your errors reflect your generalization, once again your degree or level of education does not reflect your critical thinking apparatus, in general, nor does your involvement in labor.. have you ever been involved in any kind of labor, the fact that you work all day does not effect your ability to harness critical thinking skills, there are 24 hours in a day, plenty of time to think, if you so desire, regardless of education level
xd1rtx 2 years ago
No need to proof read this is not an English exam that is your cop out. As for manual labour yep been there and done it, it does not leave any time for the Critical thinking skills called upon by Radin. You sound seriously deluded and out of touch.
whitenightf3 2 years ago
i agree, this is no english class, however if you dont type in proper sentence structure, you have no room to argue critical thinking skills, as for manual labor, i have worked 12 or 16 hour shifts before and have still found time to study quantum physics without the luxury of a university, so your arguement holds no water.... your right im "seriuosly deluded" how could i have thaught i would be able to carry on an intelligent conversation with you without being slandered,, good job
xd1rtx 2 years ago
Oh Dear, you want proper grammar and cannot spell correctly lol and how do you equate senstence structure with critical thinking skills? It just does not compute and you are right I cannot carry on an intelligent debate with a bufoon.
whitenightf3 2 years ago
hmmm,, reread it, i think you'll find i didnt spell one word incorrectly,,,, or do you not know how to spell sentence
your friend the bufoon
xd1rtx 2 years ago
I suggest you take your own advice but when I went to school we spelt the word Thought er just like that PMSL Critical Thinking Indeed :)
whitenightf3 2 years ago
the fake world that we all live in and are financially unable to crawl out of, i see the bs that goes on here daily, but what are you going to do about it,, that has absolutely nothing to do with mr. radins views on the uneducated, however since i dont have a degree i guess im not allowed or unabel to think critically,,,,, what a dipshit
xd1rtx 2 years ago
Wow... You took what Radin said WAAAAAY too personal!
I congratulate you on following the Mark Twain style of "never let schooling interfere with one's education", but I think you're mistaking the forest for the trees. What you have done is the exception, not the rule, and of course, with any rule, there are always exceptions. But Radin is talking about the general attitude, not every single person. It's taken as assumed that there are exceptions, because there are ALWAYS exceptions.
eatthatmeatball 2 years ago 2
yes there are
Phoenix4Changes 2 years ago
he's not saying that...he's saying if you do go into lengthy periods of establishment education you're likely to be indoctrinated into a school of thought that may not be your own. i think you completely misconstrued what he was saying.
staceymcr13 1 year ago
thanks for chiming in, I so needed your opinion ;)
maybe i'm wrong i can accept that. that being said, I still think radin is a pompous asshole...
xd1rtx 1 year ago
Notice that he used a sweeping generalization of "college profesors" and never once suggested that the statistical analysis should be applied only to the professors of natural sciences.
If he were to do so, his argument would fall apart at the seems....
Mainstream science says NOTHING of the supernatural or psychic. Science can only comment on that which it can empirically test. Since no psychic phenomenon has ever been documented and tested positive, there can be no official discourse.
twothlesswonder 3 years ago
If educated people are starting to defend mysticism, as they did 100 years ago, this world is in huge trouble. Is science really being discarded? This is sad...
MrCropper 3 years ago
pssst...wanna know a secret? dean radin works for the institue of noetic science...theyre part of the new age "one world consciousness" movement...ie the new world order - meaning he is a 100% liar
tiarnan76 3 years ago
Finally science is being used towards personal experience rather than destroying it
jahlo157 3 years ago 2
I'm thankful his mother & father met. ☺
Merninwood 3 years ago 5
if i put the paper on the doll, the doll and the people entangled through the mind, i use the paper to curse the people, the people maybe influenced, that is true in traditional chinese widget casting their spell, the mind is the hub between the image of the human and doll
davidwizard2006 3 years ago
This guy is great.
Feuyaer 3 years ago
just the guy i was looking for
Aersis32 3 years ago
the clock in the video does not change.
SEASOFCONFUSION 3 years ago
Flat batteries... or perhaps time is relative to the observers' intentions... or it might just be God almighty, having fun with us stupid humans, who he blames for doing what he created us to do; which was bad.
mads18 3 years ago 2
I think he's sitting in front of a blue screen--the rest is add CG. I also think he's brilliant!
w0rkplay 3 years ago
Did anybody else notice that it actually stays at 11:11 for the entire series?
mycophiliac 3 years ago
This is complete and utter nonsense. If you believe in psychic powers or metaphysics you are delusional.
thetruthone 3 years ago
what is wanted is not the will to believe, but the desire to find out, which is the exact opposite. beliefs are simply wishes without substance. finding out is the unfolding of knowing. the paradox is, you have to believe it to see it.
do5e 3 years ago
poetic but highly questionable. To have to believe in something to see it is a clear indication that there is actually nothing to see.
thetruthone 3 years ago 2
because there really is nothing to see. what we see does not exist.. what we do not see is Truth. it is omnipresent, it is the light we see by, the Truth by which we live. do not attempt to impose reality onto God by saying 'this can not be real' or 'people who believe that are crazy' ... by releasing our ideas and perceptions we experience the world the way it truly is - perfect, beautiful, unchanging.. a living wonderland. it makes no sense to the conceptualizing mind.
do5e 3 years ago
The world is beautiful but imperfect. Life will always be in a constant state of flux. To make the claim of perfection is to make the claim that nothing needs to change, which is a fallacy. I believe it makes sense to objectively understand everything we can and negate all notions of "magic" if we are ever to become a truly enlightened species.
It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -Carl Sagan