Please tell me why there aren't any top successful pga golfer using this system on tour?Is it because this system lacks distance?I'm not trying to put this system down. This style seems to be more logical way to play golf with! Thank you Mark
@mssgolfnut - It's all about achieving impact correctly, and most touring professionals are able to achieve impact with enough competence to get the ball around the course.
If they employed the mechanics of Moe's move, they, like you, would get to impact more consistently every time.
Please tell me why there aren't any top successful pga golfer using this system on tour?Is it because this system lacks distance?I'm not trying to put this system down. This style seems to be more logical way to play golf with! Than you Mark
What i think im seeing is that a small fraction of people who play golf think that this is a "better" way of swinging because it is an easier way. If it were so great, then every pro golfer would use it. Also, how are you supposed to shape shots with a swing like this.
The main reason of the academy is to reduce the stress on the back that is produced with a two-plane golf swing. If there is no stress on the back, increased flexibility is not needed and it is just easier to return the club back in the same spot by reducing stress on the back.
Yes, often players find us after suffering through injury, and Moe's swing, as it is easier on the body, allows them to no longer suffer pain and injury.
I don't care what any of the golf "purists" say, this swing works. I sucked for years at golf, and my dad was no better. We switched to Moe's swing (at least in terms of setup) and both had our best ball striking game ever the very first weekend we tried it. I don't think I'll be going back to my old swing any time soon...
I've heard all the stories about Moe Norman...And there's no doubt that he is a legend. I hate to sound mean...But do you think that Moe's childhood trauma...was, perhaps, the reason why he developed an "unconventional" swing?
Watching your video...I cannot deny the simplicity of your swing theory. But...is there a trade off??? I mean...do you sacrifice distance...for accuracy...with your swing theory?
Moe's childhood trauma likely lead to his autistic like traits, one of which was an obsessive -compulsive behavior. He was obsessed with golf, and practiced it incessantly as a teen. He told us he had his move mastered at age 19.
In regards to a trade off of distance using the swing, it simply isn't the case. It's all about ideal club movement, and allows your body to produce speed AND accuracy. Many of our students actually increase distance and accuracy.
The problem here is that it doesnt really matter what swing plane u have. Effective ballstriking is achieved primarily through good lower body control, not how the club is taken back by the hands and arms. If you were to watch all pros, you can easily find that their planes and positions vary, yet their lower body motion and position is largely similar.
The reason I switched to a "single plane" golf swing is Butch Harmon on an interview when Tiger was changing his golf swing. Butch said Tiger was hitting over 1000 balls a day and unless you were doing that you cant hit a pro-golf shot. so I searched for a simpler way and found it, i'm no scratch golfer but I can play less often 3-5 times a year and score under 100 every time. I count every shot and play every lie.
If you understand golf swing mechanics based on body movement and club movement, this is the only way to swing a golf club. Tiger Woods swing is great no doubt, he is on plane. It is all about swing plane and the simple way to swing the club on plane. Moe was unique..agreed..but he figured out the golf swing. That is a fact.
i almost gave up on golf until i found natural golf. perhaps the pros should keep on with the conventional swing, but i sincerely believe that 95% of golfers would play better with this swing. it´s more accurate, more fun and easier to reproduce. another convert!
And what your trying to teach is a simpler more repeatable way for the avg. golfer to strike a golf ball, therefore improving their results within the game of golf. Because one plane equals one motion and less room for error, and a reduction of hand eye coordination in the middle of an action of motion involving speed.
Great video, that will help the masses......one important note is that instead of an analysis of the greatest player the game has ever seen, and sorta implying he is doing something wrong, might not be the best of ideas,when trying to compare the differences between their swings. What i have realized from your analysis is that, you need to get the "masses" ie avg golfers to understand, what a pro does is not wrong, just more complex and it takes a lot of talent to replicate a dual plane swing.
He is the only golfer who never even tought about changing anything in is swing, he repeated the exact same motion each and everytime, his secret is not in his swing, it's in how he praticed.
In recent years I slipped from a 5 handicap to a 12 and began freezing at the top of my backswing, losing all my confidence. I was only able to temporarily 'fix' the problem by drastically shortening my backswing, losing huge distance and wrecking my timing..over the last 2 weeks I have taken on the single plane swing and it has completely transformed my game. I am sure that I will be in single figures again soon.Thanks for posting this video!
y would u not want to copy tiger woods swing??
Pez0023 1 year ago
@Pez0023 - Which Tiger swing? There have been 3-4 iterations now.
GravesGolfAcademy 1 year ago
Please tell me why there aren't any top successful pga golfer using this system on tour?Is it because this system lacks distance?I'm not trying to put this system down. This style seems to be more logical way to play golf with! Thank you Mark
mssgolfnut 1 year ago
@mssgolfnut - It's all about achieving impact correctly, and most touring professionals are able to achieve impact with enough competence to get the ball around the course.
If they employed the mechanics of Moe's move, they, like you, would get to impact more consistently every time.
GravesGolfAcademy 1 year ago
Please tell me why there aren't any top successful pga golfer using this system on tour?Is it because this system lacks distance?I'm not trying to put this system down. This style seems to be more logical way to play golf with! Than you Mark
mssgolfnut 1 year ago
This swing made my drives go from 200-250 to 250-310
Gradey3 1 year ago
What i think im seeing is that a small fraction of people who play golf think that this is a "better" way of swinging because it is an easier way. If it were so great, then every pro golfer would use it. Also, how are you supposed to shape shots with a swing like this.
Gradey3 1 year ago
The main reason of the academy is to reduce the stress on the back that is produced with a two-plane golf swing. If there is no stress on the back, increased flexibility is not needed and it is just easier to return the club back in the same spot by reducing stress on the back.
mxlevi456 2 years ago
@ GravesGolfAcademy
I wonder how the body responds to this...do you find that your players have less golf related injuries???
Motown025 2 years ago
@Motown025
Yes, often players find us after suffering through injury, and Moe's swing, as it is easier on the body, allows them to no longer suffer pain and injury.
GravesGolfAcademy 1 year ago
I don't care what any of the golf "purists" say, this swing works. I sucked for years at golf, and my dad was no better. We switched to Moe's swing (at least in terms of setup) and both had our best ball striking game ever the very first weekend we tried it. I don't think I'll be going back to my old swing any time soon...
drboogersnot 2 years ago
You do realize, that is Tiger's old swing...He made a dramatic swing change for a reason.
stu1058 2 years ago
Yes, we realize that. Funny that to relieve the stress on his left knee, Tiger now turns his left foot out at setup. Sounds like someone we know....
Thanks for your comments.
GravesGolfAcademy 2 years ago
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bigdanusa 2 years ago
@GravesGolfAcademy
Hello. Thank you for posting the video:)
I've heard all the stories about Moe Norman...And there's no doubt that he is a legend. I hate to sound mean...But do you think that Moe's childhood trauma...was, perhaps, the reason why he developed an "unconventional" swing?
Watching your video...I cannot deny the simplicity of your swing theory. But...is there a trade off??? I mean...do you sacrifice distance...for accuracy...with your swing theory?
spankyelmojr 2 years ago
Thank you for your comments.
Moe's childhood trauma likely lead to his autistic like traits, one of which was an obsessive -compulsive behavior. He was obsessed with golf, and practiced it incessantly as a teen. He told us he had his move mastered at age 19.
GravesGolfAcademy 2 years ago
In regards to a trade off of distance using the swing, it simply isn't the case. It's all about ideal club movement, and allows your body to produce speed AND accuracy. Many of our students actually increase distance and accuracy.
Thanks again.
GravesGolfAcademy 2 years ago
I am austistic myself, so I can tell that he is autistic, but hey, we autism golfers proved we are very specia.
whammydoom 2 years ago
The problem here is that it doesnt really matter what swing plane u have. Effective ballstriking is achieved primarily through good lower body control, not how the club is taken back by the hands and arms. If you were to watch all pros, you can easily find that their planes and positions vary, yet their lower body motion and position is largely similar.
Nickylizzle 2 years ago
Interesting theory, though I've never seen anyone hit the ball with their lower body.
GravesGolfAcademy 2 years ago
The reason I switched to a "single plane" golf swing is Butch Harmon on an interview when Tiger was changing his golf swing. Butch said Tiger was hitting over 1000 balls a day and unless you were doing that you cant hit a pro-golf shot. so I searched for a simpler way and found it, i'm no scratch golfer but I can play less often 3-5 times a year and score under 100 every time. I count every shot and play every lie.
hardscaperx 3 years ago
If you understand golf swing mechanics based on body movement and club movement, this is the only way to swing a golf club. Tiger Woods swing is great no doubt, he is on plane. It is all about swing plane and the simple way to swing the club on plane. Moe was unique..agreed..but he figured out the golf swing. That is a fact.
GravesGolfAcademy 3 years ago
i almost gave up on golf until i found natural golf. perhaps the pros should keep on with the conventional swing, but i sincerely believe that 95% of golfers would play better with this swing. it´s more accurate, more fun and easier to reproduce. another convert!
koochyman 3 years ago
And what your trying to teach is a simpler more repeatable way for the avg. golfer to strike a golf ball, therefore improving their results within the game of golf. Because one plane equals one motion and less room for error, and a reduction of hand eye coordination in the middle of an action of motion involving speed.
hollywoodTbone 3 years ago
Great video, that will help the masses......one important note is that instead of an analysis of the greatest player the game has ever seen, and sorta implying he is doing something wrong, might not be the best of ideas,when trying to compare the differences between their swings. What i have realized from your analysis is that, you need to get the "masses" ie avg golfers to understand, what a pro does is not wrong, just more complex and it takes a lot of talent to replicate a dual plane swing.
hollywoodTbone 3 years ago
Why Moe Norman was so good?
He is the only golfer who never even tought about changing anything in is swing, he repeated the exact same motion each and everytime, his secret is not in his swing, it's in how he praticed.
ygmondoux 4 years ago 3
he was very good yes. he could hit balls off pop cans. one of the greatest of all time.
desiskimboarder19 3 years ago
In recent years I slipped from a 5 handicap to a 12 and began freezing at the top of my backswing, losing all my confidence. I was only able to temporarily 'fix' the problem by drastically shortening my backswing, losing huge distance and wrecking my timing..over the last 2 weeks I have taken on the single plane swing and it has completely transformed my game. I am sure that I will be in single figures again soon.Thanks for posting this video!
newtonsrock 4 years ago
One of the best explanations of the single plane I have seen
captbillod 4 years ago
great way to show Moe's swing.
graunke808 4 years ago
seven principles of golf DVD set is excellent. Good introduction video to the best golf swing out there.
anthonyjcassino 4 years ago
Very good info, thanks!
dreadgolf 4 years ago
Great!
tbuddha7 4 years ago