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  • I had to upload videos to this jdbvscs profile

  • Ellhows TRUTH WINS video is BACK UP! Cheryl PHAILS again!!

  • Anyone with information on Cheryl Shuman vs Lonelygirl15 (from 2006) could you please send me a PM, Shuman lies too much to believe a word she says and I am trying to put together a synopsis of all the YT users that she has stalked. Thanks, Fraudy :)

  • FROM URBAN DICTIONARY - Pedophilia is a mental disorder, not a sexual orientation or lifestyle choice. Specifically, it is a Paraphilia. The Paraphilias are characterized by recurrent, intense, sexual urges, fantasies, or behaviors that involve unusual objects, activities, or situations. Other examples of Paraphilias are Exhibitionism, Fetishism, Sexual Masochism, and Sexual Sadism. NOTE TO SHUMAN PLEASE NOTE EXHIBITIONISM!!!

  • These two accounts are Cheryl Shuman:

    cybergangexpert

    Ogden30 - I have had my eye on this one ever since I did all the research on her 900+ sock accounts. I have NO DOUBT this is one of her socks - check out her video to YSB the jealousy and use of those stoopid :-) :-( 's give it away.

  • GREAT NEWS!!! When googleing Cheryl Shuman David's video "CHERYL SHUMAN WISHES SOMEONE WOULD STALK HER" comes up on Cheryl Shuman's 1st page when googleing her name!!! Maybe just maybe one innocent investor will be saved from the con-artist that is Cheryl Shuman!!!!!!!!! Hopefully Ellhow's will be back before Christmas also :)

  • Absolutely unbelievably PATHETIC news: Cheryl, the MOST banned YT user EVER, had the nerve to create yet ANOTHER new Channel on November 25th and call it CherylShumanLLC. Of course she used it to sub to HER Myangelisacenterfold channel...looks like the sick perverted web of fraud has begun again!

  • Fraudy, had her taken down.

  • No, I did.

    Must rest now before the monster rears her ugly head, again.

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  • I see Cheryl Shuman has decided to discontinue her "alliance" with known pedophile irish282. Her & Freddy have removed that video from their favs. Smart move considering Shuman herself has issues with exposing herself nude to children on the Internet

  • I hope the FBI finds this video while they do their Cheryl investigation. Three illegal DMCAs in 2 days? Just add that to the cyberstalking and that sounds like at least 5 years in prison! Thanks Joyce for the trip to the FBI...maybe its will be an early Holiday gift to YouTubers everywhere.

  • god press i hope they lock that hag up for all her cybercrimes!

  • all i want for christmas is for cheryl shuman to be gone. well & maybe a new diamond watch :)

  • Happy Birthday Fraudy!!!! :)

  • Not my birthday today sorry to disappoint you all, my birthday is in January, but thanks for the early wishes! :) Fraudy

  • *takes off party hat*

  • wait! it's MY birthday today! where are all the party'ers going?!!!

  • happy b-day plsgtv! durrrr

  • ty surfgal :)

  • Well...it is OFFICIAL! Myangelisacenterfold IS Cheryl...look at her playlists...the first one is that ridiculous cyber-bully shit. She needs to add HERSELF to the list of bullies...if it weren't for her bullying others none of us would be here right now.

  • CherylShumanTriumphs and CherylShumanWins = ACCOUNTS CLOSED - Either Cheryl's friends are not supporting her anymore (remember, she said they were not HER) or she is trying to cover her stalking tracks. Too late Shuman, we have all the threats saved.

  • Rap you are a smart, funny and a wonderful person.

    We love your comments and you are a great sleuth.

  • i would think that fred's nose is big enough to smell a rat when he sees one! he must be some small town ohio hick that doesn't know when he's catching the "con".

  • lolol Raptor has me ROARING over here...the sad thing is everything he says is TRUE - Run Fred Run!! lololol

  • I don't know why she is broadcasting this.

    She knows we are going to bust her.

    I am even concerned that she will marry this guy, get life insurance on him and then kill him for the insurance money.

    I think that she will try to use his name and credit for her scams.

    Did you see where she is trying to portray him as the owner and founder of Fred's Place Coffee Shop?

    Lies. He claims to be 50. The shop was opened in 1966 when he was only 9. There is no way he is the founder.

  • Go to fredscoffeeshop dot com to see the real founder, Fred Peters.

    This "Fred" guy is a pussy-whipped idiot. He is probably getting sex for the first time, in a long time; and he is chemically imbalanced.

    Cheryl, in your videos you ask for people's opinions. You are going to get them.

    You are a liar and a scammer. Fred is a moron. He is either a co-conspirator or your latest victim.

    Run, Fred; RUN for your life. Your "Angel" is really the Devil in disguise. She is an evil Succubus.

  • In one video, Fred says that he chokes easily; and Cheryl replies "That's good to know".

    Run, Fred; RUN for your life.

    Cheryl is a liar and a cheater.

    In the video that Cheryl posted about David, Cheryl gives David her word, she promises David that she will never repeat what he has said. We see what her word is worth: Nothing.

    She also says that she will ask David's permission to tape their phone call; but she never does ask his permission.

    Cheryl is pure EVIL !!!

  • This new "Fred" guy looks like Cheryl's latest victim.

    I don't think that he even knows that the channel exists. One strategy of the con person is to pick a victim and use their name for their cons.

    I think that Cheryl will drain this guy and leave him a worthless shell. She is like a spider who has caught a fly in her web.

  • That "new" account of FREDS user Myangelisacenterfold is SHUMAN! With another PATHETIC attempt at coming back to youtube, read the descriptions of the videos, NO MAN wrote those...PALEESE Shuman - give it up!!

  • some poor sap must have had the misfortune of being found by cheryl at an online dating service and going on a date with cheryl and her camera.  i'm sure he has no idea the videos are posted for the entire world to see!

  • Cheryl Shuman looks old enuf to be that guy's mother even WITH the orthopedic style sunglasses she wears trying to hide her bag eyes!

  • I was going to leave a comment asking if Cheryl was going to answer his private messages too. Picking out his close, new job, account name, profile description, making the videos, editing and forcing a camera at this poor man's face. RUN FRED RUN! Control Freak is just a small fraction of the big picture.

  • I hope she doesn't convince him to mortgage the farm for "venture capital!" By the way, is the "angel" part of his name what he is looking for or what Cheryl is looking for?

  • did anyone happen to click on the description for the ties video?

    Category: Nonprofits & Activism???

    cheryl, nonprofit???!!??! lol

    Tags: marriage????

    run fred, run!!!!

  • hehehe socky me & fraudy were laughing at that last night! those tags show just how mentally ill the ole hag is!

  • Cheryl Shuman the E-BEGGAR nonprofit??!!! LOL

  • Cheryl Shuman quote: "If You Knew Exactly How Much Time You Had Left to Live Life As You Know It ....How Would You Live the Rest of Your Life?"

    I guess we now know how she will spend the rest of her life...on the internet and phones making death threats, stalking innocent people, lying, accusing, pm'ing like crazy and threatening to sue evereyone. Wow, what a wasted life! Pathetic. I pity her.

  • It's sad, but there's no getting through to her. I tried and all I got was more lame fantacist legal PMs.

  • Life is a terminal condition. Everyday, I get closer to death.

    But I wouldn't make a declaration under seal (which carries criminal and civil penalties for falsication made to authorities) based on begign cysts and calcifications in the lung! Especially when the doctor told Cheryl it was nothing to worry about, just keep an eye on it.

  • And for the RECORD. It is not illegal to see a lie and point it out. NOBODY here is stalking or harrassing Ms. Shuman. It is in FACT quite the opposite. We all have saved her PM's threatening violence and many other things. Cheryl Shuman is not an innocent victim in any of this. Federal witness or not, she is a LYING SCHEMING CON ARTIST of the worst kind!

  • It appears that since the "I am an innocent victim of cyberstalkers" LIE did not work for Cheryl, that she has now decided her best bet at sympathy is to say she is terminally ill, problem for her is when the time passes and she is still alive and well, I wonder what her con will be...will it be a "miracle" recovery for the LYING Ms. Shuman...STAY TUNED folks! The Shuman Circus is back in business.

  • A patient is considered to be terminally ill when he/ she has a medical prognosis of a life expectancy of six months or less.

  • she has a benign cyst in her liver, gall stones, and some nodules in her lungs which were too small to test. the doctor told her she should have a CAT scan every 6 months and have the nodules monitored but that many people have these. certainly doesn't sound terminal!

  • It is my opinion that Shuman has run out of "angles" for her con and the terminal illness one is the one most people will believe without question. Too bad she posted that FALSE health update and the subsequent video of her conversation with her doctor on the matter. We have it all saved in the evidence folder. I find it repulsive the levels she will stoop to to deceive people.

  • To those of you who were not around when Shuman posted her "Legal and Health Updates" video, the health update portion consisted of a CAT scan and a written report that she found on the internet and was trying to pass it off as her own. Problem for her is she plaigerized it word for word - and the CAT scan that went along with that plaigerized report was the one she was trying to play off as her own CAT scan.

  • When she got caught she tried to say it was "google research" and then she taped her phone call to her doctor and said she did "google research" about 10 sickening times trying to cover her lie..it was quite comical!

  • We have the PROOF of this LIE, and I personally can't wait to show this one to the FEDS - so they can see exactly what low levels this creep is capable of stooping to. We also have the "The dog was shot and I was grazed in the face" video in our files. Wonder HOW she is going to explain THAT lie?

  • "I didn't attend the funeral, but I

    sent a nice letter saying I approved

    of it."

  • "I have never killed a person, but I would like to read it's obituaries with great

    pleasure."

  • Wow, the IS twisted!

  • Mel, that is the same BS, CS has been sending out.

  • Google just "Cheryl Shuman"!!! Ellhow's video exposing Cheryl Shuman's sock accounts threatening physical violence to YouTuber's is on her 1st page!!! Now anyone googling her name will be warned of her cyberterrorist activities!!! YEAH ELLHOW!!! TRUTH WINS!!!

  • I just got that today. I couldn't comment on it and keep it under 500 characters. Did anyone else get it?

  • melora we ALL got it! her sickness seems to be escalating!

  • I feel left out...I didn't get one. It may be Barresi, the dried up gay porn actor turned Pellicano henchman. He is friends with Cheryl because they have a common enemy. These two certainly make for strange bedfellows.

  • I didn't get one either. I guess he isn't "officially" on to us. Thank God. I would only apoligize to that woman if she paid me $2 million!  Hand it over Cheryl, I got your apology right here! (This is not extortion, its bartering!)

  • I am assuming that common enemy is Pellicano? I read about how Pellicano screwed Barresi out of a big windfall on the whole Tom Cruise gay expose. Whatever happened to Barresi's book...must have been a failed venture just like Cheryl's, not such strange bedfellows perhaps, two pathetic losers joining forces is more like it.

  • UTubeCyberGangs

    Sent: November 19, 2007

    Subject: Cheryl Shuman's Stalker

    Message:

    I have reviewed your past videos stalking and slandering Cheryl Shuman. I also know that you still have sock accounts/ghost accounts ganging up on her. My name is Paul Barresi. I am a private investigator working on behalf of Cheryl Shuman's attorney. I want you to know officially that I'm on to you. You owe that woman an apology and I'm going to make sure that you do the right thing.

  • hello melora72. Although that's Cheryl, there is a video in my favorites, my video which is on the jdbreups profile. It's about how Cheryl said no one should be on Youtube representing her. Therefore, we can call any Paul or Cheryl account an impostor if we feel like it.

  • I mean, of course we know it's Cheryl, but it adds to rubbing it in her face that she sent me an email enabling everyone to call her an impostor every time we address an account she says is Paul or someone else.

  • To those who are not aware, Cheryl Shuman incessently PM's people, baiting them to watch her videos or telling them she knows who they really are, or that the FBI has their information blah blah blah. We all know it is just the ramblings of a sociopath and most of us ignore them. We do however save them for the day this lolsuit makes it to court as we will need them as evidence when we ask the judge to throw her in the nuthouse.

  • new video is uploaded. It is called 'Cheryl Shuman is Obsessed with John David Briley'. It's here on this jdbreups profile, and I'm uploading it to the Yahweh profile at Livevideo too.

  • Goodbye Ya'll!

    I'll be off this name from now on, unless Cheryl comes back on YT..if she does then of course I'll help stop the harrasment of her on her...but until then, looks like she is gone! :)

    TTFN!

  • CTP: Thanks for all the work you have done to keep YT a place with ZERO tolerance for lying psychopaths like Cheryl who enjoy stalking and harrassing innocent people. The WAR has been WON! TTFN - Fraudy :)

  • I would like to take this opportunity to thank Cheryl Shuman for being the complete backstabbing doc dropper that she is - and for providing us all with very pertinent information about Andi, it will be very helpful in finally reporting her to the proper Arizona authorities for cyber-bullying. This is a serious crime I hear. Hondradez will undoubtedly step in to help protect her - or at the very least maybe bring her CINNA MON rolls in jail.

  • To cs,

    370HSSV-0773H

  • the counter claim I sent when cherylshuman dot com attempted to claim these 3 videos was successful. What you see on this jdbvscs are the three original uploads back to Live status.

  • Congrats! She is all over this cyber bully nonsense like a fly on you know what, she must be trying to convince herself that she is not a perpetrator, hey, whatever it takes, she can post all the nonsense she wants as long as she is not harrassing and stalking innocent people! It truly must SUCK to be her!

  • I'll bet YouTube woud laugh their asses off to see the criminal cyberterrorist Cheryl Shuman crying cyberbully now. Same thing as Mario Nitrini, she stalked him, took him to court,lost, then cried victim. She is such a LOSER!

  • Another character she can be...

    GOOFY

    To be continued.....

  • she has been suspended from more sites

    she really needs to get a job at

    DISNEYLAND

    this way she may wear different costumes and change her personality with each charter

    let her start with

    OLD MOTHER HUBBARD, she lived in a shoe, she had so many children she did not know what to do... SO SHE ATE THEM

  • Twisted, I don't think Disneyland hires cyber stalkers with criminal record. She can't even qualify for the OLD MOTHER HUBBARD position she is a terrible mother, she impersonates one of her children on a regular basis to further her own sick lies and the other one wants absolutely nothing to do with her.

  • cheryl shuman google is honradez.

    she needs more jail time.

  • WOW THIS SOUNDS FAMILIAR! " honradez | November 14, 2007

    Hey chip you meet me out back

    and sound wont even carry as far as i'm going to kick your ass

    You foul mouth woman beating little son of a bitch. "....

    REMEMBER CHERYLS COMMENTS POSTED AS akaruine: ...grow a pair of balls behave like a gentleman...stop picking on women, specifically cheryl shuman...i for one will kick your ass...etc etc (ellhows bkground).

    Possibly Cheryl is honradez lol

  • i just googled cheryl shuman stalker and omg there are like 3 full pages of her stalking incidents reflected there. omg she is like some criminal stalker!

  • Cheryl makes me so effin sick.

    SHE IS THE CYBER BULLY!!!!! and when people start to FINALLY speak up about her psychoticness, she calls it bullying against her?

    Did you forget all your little threats and videos Cheryl? The "exposed" and "warning" bullsh1t?

    YOU CYBERSTALKED OTHER PEOPLE!!!!

    THE EVIDENCE IS ALL OVER THE INTERNET!!!!!

  • aww you copy and pasted my comment from yesterday, thank you, I liked that one too, if i do say so myself! lol

  • WOW Google Cheryl Shuman cyberterrorist

  • i just googled "cheryl shuman cyberterrorist" thats RAD!!!!!

  • does she keep getting banned from Yahoo video too? She keeps making new profiles there. There's a starreyeyesllc90210 profile there now with a bunch of copies of the same video uploaded. Why doesn't she just upload to 1 profile there?

  • CC are you asking us to explain why an insane person does the things they do? She's obviously got another issue with obsessive/compulsive behavior. She's the biggest mess alive!

  • I can't remember her other Yahoo video uploading profiles, so I don't know if Yahoo is banning her too. Does anyone here know if she just stopped uploading to the others, or did they get banned at Yahoo?

  • right now she has videos at yahoo posted under the following names:

    jetsetdatellc90210

    jetsetdate90210

    starryeyesllc90210

  • Words of Wisdom from Snoop - posted at my channel page comments section. RIGHT ON SNOOPY! * Five Thumbs Up* Fraudy :)

  • It really is nauseating, when will the madness that is Cheryl Shuman end? I have been waiting for this subpoena for over two months now, I was hoping it were true, but that appears to be a lie as well. I have alot of information to share on HER cyber bullying of others, it started way before any of us even had these accounts, all the more proof we are telling the truth about why we are here, which is to protect innocent people from Cheryl's cyber bullying!

  • everytime i see Cheryl Shuman has made a new account i get sick to my stomach thinking she is going to start all that sick stuff about stalking peoples employers trying to get them fired, making videos with bounties on peoples heads, making death threat videos & revealing personal info. thank god shes gone again. whoever did that thank you from the bottom of my heart!

  • Cheryl makes me so effin sick.

    SHE IS THE CYBER BULLY!!!!! and when people start to FINALLY speak up about her psychoticness, she calls it bullying against her?

    Did you forget all your little threats and videos Cheryl? The "exposed" and "warning" bullsh1t?

    YOU CYBERSTALKED OTHER PEOPLE!!!!

    THE EVIDENCE IS ALL OVER THE INTERNET!!!!!

  • HON IS SHUMAN, SHE IS NUTS.

    CHECK THIS OUT

    DFU SING-ALONG: Hillary and Pellicano

  • How many people believe honradez is a real lobbyist for stricter cyber bully laws? And how many MOAR believe honradez is either Shuman or Andi on a tangent again? When will this madness ever end? The games grow more childish with each passing day. WHERE THE HELL IS MY SUBPOENA???????????????

  • Honradez is Andi. Actually her name is not quite Andi....Cheryl SHuman just put her real name on her web site and then took it down. Doesn't pay to work with Cheryl Shuman haha.

  • Ellhow, the original information on Andi is true, that was a ruse, don't be fooled by it. Although you are correct that it does not pay to work with Cheryl, she dropped Andi's real docs when she was being a cyber bully to David.

  • z she has been making woman love video's for years.

    Ilene888, go to yahoo and make a report.

  • cheryl shuman made tons of vids on yahoo to lie about sweet Ilene.

  • I don't visit her other sites either, too much lulz for me...but thanks for letting us know Ellhow, it is important that we know who the stalkers are and are not these days..lolol

  • WOW I was just informed that Cheryl Shuman is lesbianing out on me on Yahoo videos!! OMG you fat old lady lesbo. Now it looks like the only way you can get attention is to use my images! How desperatly hard up you old cow!

  • i think that might be because no one watches her videos so if she put your picture as a thubnail she would get views. i kinda thought she was a lesbian with how she handled the ysb turndown thing.

  • It does appear she is completely obsessed with you Ilene, if I were you, I would contact your local authorities and file a report, this is clearly cyber-bullying! Anyone who has not seen this go to yahoo vids and search for Cheryl Shuman..This is sick behavior.

  • ilene888 has not made one video about cheryl shuman and shuman has made like 5 or 6. cheryl shuman is obsessed with ilene888. i'm thinking the lesbo thing also. i think cheryl is so hard up for anyone that shes gone lesbo.

  • I just looked at the starryeyes video page and I've made it on to the list of stalkers. I haven't been so happy since getting the dickhead award.

  • Z, I would not touch that one with a ten foot pole!

    Who would want her?

    No man, beast or animal!

  • Well Twisted that's what I thought...Cheryl Shuman is toxic & dieseased. But she's making "woman love" video's about ilene888 who clearly hates her guts so I was just wondering. Seems her mental illness is getting the best of her these days.

  • Hmmm after careful consideration - I am diagnosing Cheryl Shuman with MAD COW DISEASE.

  • Does anyone know about Cheryl being arrested recently?

  • pray tell ellhow

  • I can't give the source because they don't want to be stalked but I am told that Cheryl Shuman was arrested and that the FBI was involved as well as the police.

  • Hi, wishing everyone a wonderful weekend.

    Except for, shuman and all of her alter ego's.

  • Thanks Twisted- That's sweet :) I'm wondering if you have any information pertaining to Cheryl Shuman being a Lesbian? She seems to have made videos claiming a love relationship with some woman who hates her. Any info on her Lesbian instincts?

  • Find The Cow!!!!

    ww w.live video. co m/ video/ CherylShuman/ 596C832D5D6341 31B27879A7CD E7590E / cheryl-shuman-s- holy-cow- at-. aspx

  • Okay I know it's hard to spot the cow, but here's a hint, it appears at 1:30 seconds left in the video! ;-) good luck!

  • omg i saw it run in wearing shorts with these huge fat lets rubbing together! it was huge and had sunglasses on!

  • legs (overinflated blow up doll kind)

  • are we looking for boo boo shuman or moo moo shuman :)

  • Aww it's okay if Cheryl removed her fat cow mothers videos....I have plenty more to expose her on in the future...

    Oh yes, I sure do...if you only knew what I was holding back Mrs. Shuman...

    if you only knew...

    better play nice.

  • Btw, this is nothing you can find on the internet.

  • WRITERS STRIKE

    make more vids.

  • Well it looks like Cheryl is gone from YT....can it be?

    Victory?

  • Oh good! Or perhaps she's just spending some time having cancer treatments and will be back soon.

  • LOL they're just lurking now to give us the thumbs down.

  • Hey my comment didn't get through. I said: CS is just lurking now to give us the thumbs-down, LOL

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  • Excellent!

  • I'm so embarassed all these videos coming out and information being researched finding out just how truly Ugly & Fraudulent me and my pal Betchslapp aka Andrea Fisher are. I seem to LOSE at everything. Well except for losing weight!

  • There, there, have a slice of pizza; it'll make you feel better.

  • omg great new video watch?v=AtTQlnDwF_Y

  • new video in my Favorites. It's from when she was talking about someone giving her a million dollars through a match making service.

  • that 1 million dollar matchmaker video is in the first section of the ED article too.

  • VERY TRUE! LOL

    She did say 500 a month in those emails on video....

    Well, well, well, from reading their website, their most EXPENSIVE service offered is barely in the 200's!

    Just another shuman FOS lie!

  • LOL!

    Yep and when you go to the company website gbcone. com, it's advertising $165 GETS YOU this and that! LOL and the little video on the page shows a picture of the same front desk with those two girls in Cheryls Video (well cept two new recycled girls)!

    HAHA! Yep, TRUE LOSER!

  • OOOOHH!! So NOW we know what Cheryl was lying about FILMING! A new video for their website, to advertise their services!

    HA!

  • Global Business Centers will provide:

    * A Beverly Hills telephone number

    * Live call answering with your company name and personalized greeting.

    * Voice-Mail with 24/7 access

    * A prestigious Beverly Hills 90210 mailing address

    * Full Mail Service including mail and package forwarding

    * Luxurious conference rooms and fully equipped offices are available on demand

  • and wasn't she telling David in that email that she pays her secretary $500 per week? Oh yeah, sure, okay...lie much Shuman?

  • Yes, I had to shorten it because it was too long....

    just do a google search for...

    virtual offices 468 north camden drive beverly hills

    and click the first link, under the advertisers that comes up... titled "Beverly Hills Company Takes the Virtual Office concept to new levels".

  • So much for Cheryl's HIGH CLASS OFFICES all around the country! LOL

    She's got virtual office services!! FOR ONLY $165 dollars a month!

    LMFAO!

    How much more pathetic can she get? Oh god, I can't stop laughing!!!!!!!

    Check it out and get a good laugh!

    ww w. tiny. cc / CherylShuman

  • Hilarious, Psychopath, CS has been exposed as a liar AGAIN!

    I remember she told David in an email that $500 a month was actually cheap.

    Perhaps she pays them in coupons, lol.

  • BTW do not try searching for a mugshot on mugseek dot com.

  • Anyone searching for mugshots needs to use her booking name Cheryl Killen. Only on the last charges do they add Cheryl Killen aka Shuman. The charges will be posted on her ED page soon from what I've heard.

  • The ED page is coming along quite swimmingly if I may say so...great job everyone. I can't wait to see the mugshots..perhaps an ED page on afan4u is in order now that we know who she really is..Losing Lying Freakazoid!

  • So Cheryl's REAL last name is... Cheryl Peart.

    Do a google of her name...and you get an article called "COUPON QUEEN CHERYL PEART-SHUMAN"...

    LOL Coupon Queen!???

    Fit's that broke b1tch!

    GOD SHE WAS UGLIER BACK THEN! LOL

    ww w. ourmedia. org / node / 357736

  • i wonder if she stalked people to obtain all those coupons.

  • LOL a torting COUPON QUEEN!

  • I was just now digging through the old messages with Ilene888 and oh crap Ilene888 didn't say she was zConwomanz afterall. She only said that she cannot get the zConwomanz profile deleted. She did not say Ilene888 does not know how to delete the zConwomanz profile. I got mixed up anyway.

  • But what about Jackkkline? He seemed very upset that you told CS he was the one who made those panties videos.

    It would've been different if you asked his consent. Perhaps he'd have played along if it was part of your game, to give her 'something'.

  • cherylshumanspanties didn't have videos or anything on it. I knew that was ultra safe. Is Jackkline really cherylshumanspanties? I still don't really know if that was his profile.

  • Did you discuss it with Jackkline though? I believe I read a very angry comment directed at you that he wrote. Can't remember where it was, but he seemed really pissed-off.

    Perhaps it's just a matter of respect for others and boundaries that you don't understand and I mistake for betrayal? I know that people have boundaries, that you just don't go beyond these and take what's not yours.

  • I suggest everyone should start adding "optician to the stars" in descriptions and titles...for google search purposes.

    That is all :)

  • So CST and Ethics are both upstanding members of their community. That's nice for them. Is ethics also a God fearing person like CST?

    David can not make up for outing YT users. I am glad that someone has gone in and cleaned up some of the ED page...it reads much better now.

  • I didn't out any YT users.

    I cleaned up the ED article.

    David

  • what I meant was: I am the one who has been writing and rearranging it. It felt better once Ellhow started showing up and adding stuff like factalert and the Joe quote. Zenophile put 2 of the pics in it. Someone named Pookie made words link to other parts of ed.

  • You DID!

    On October 12 you wrote in an email to Cheryl Shuman:

    "Jackkline is the one who has the cherylshumanspanties profile"

    "Ilene888 talking about zConwomanz as though that is her profile"

    I just don't understand why you thought it was necessary to out these two people.

  • that isn't outing people. Me saying that stuff meant nothing. I never sent and never intended to send the proof that Ilene888 said it. Even if I had sent anything like screen captures, even that would amount to nothing worth knowing. Cheryl just pretends that stuff is valuable lawsuit info.

  • outing would be more like attaching sockpuppets to real life identities, photos or contact info not attaching anonymous accounts and sockpuppets to each other.

  • Well, I would've thought that most people set-up these sock profiles so they can hide their real identity. I certainly do not want CS to know my real name or identity.

    Isn't jackkline's face on some of his videos?

    The fact that he wanted to use the panties profile means he didn't want CS to know; otherwise why would he have bothered? He would've used his Jackkline profile.

  • Jackkline didn't make a video with his face in it until a few days ago. It's his Rim's Creator Speaks Out video which is actually still up even though he doesn't keep the video boxes visible on the profile.

  • Yes I think I saw that RIM's creator one.

    Anyway, you did discuss identities with CS, the enemy without informing those people about your intentions. That is just wrong and disrespectful. People's socks as well as their identities are THEIRS, you cannot just take those and use them in some game, not even IF you had good intentions.

    You just fail to recognise that you crossed boundaries, that's why you think there is no need for apologies or admitting this was the wrong thing to do.

  • Cheryl convinces some of you to be afraid. Jackkline isn't afraid. I'm not either. Updownmostly / Tim isn't afraid to go to Youtube gatherings even with all the accusations people use his pics and videos in. It's all about keeping things in realistic perspective.

  • For me, it's not about being afraid of CS. I just appreciate my privacy.

    My children, my parents, my friends, we all like our privacy.

    I wouldn't appreciate having my parents' details, or those of my children, scattered all over her stupid websites.

    Realism: look at what she did to Brian's kids- she threatened them. She put your parents' details on her website. All because she knows those details.

  • Well, actually, if people have a few socks that they use for different purposes for their own personal reasons, it is their prerogative right to inform or not inform people that these socks are connected. If others take it upon themselves to 'out' the connection of these socks, then in my view, they are crossing a boundary.

  • David, I am not criticising your videos or ED page; it's not about that. I don't care much about the job-thing either.

    I merely don't understand what your motives were for outing these two YouTubers other than wanting to help CS.

    If you genuinely didn't want to help her, then why out 2 of us and give Cheryl what she wanted?

  • In Cheryl's latest video, she goes into some random building and tries to portray it as if it's her office.

    Cheryl is a fake, a phony and a fraud. She is a scammer and a very dishonest person.

    Cheryl, you are a LOSER; you have always been a LOSER; and until you decide to be honest, you will always be a LOSER.

    You are not fooling anyone with your weak, pathetic and lame douchebag tricks and lies.

    You are a MORON !!!

  • In my opinion, Cheryl is a fake, a phony and a fraud.

  • Do you also get messages from Ethicsmatter36?

    Probably Cheryl Shuman.

    She said she's an upstanding member of her home community, LOL.

  • Cheryl Shuman is a cyberterrorist death threat issuing cyber stalker that was rightfully Permabanned from YouTube!!! Thank you YouTube staff!!!!

  • David does put a lot of effort into exposing Cheryl, but perhaps it's just me, I simply can't forget the fact that he told Cheryl Shuman about Ilene888's and Jackkline's identities.

    David I wonder if you have apologised to them?

    I just find it hard to go on talking as if nothing happened, but you did betray two people and I find it hard to praise your ED page and videos if in the back of my mind I feel you can't be trusted.

  • hi everyone :) happy sunday to you all. i see the fat lady is being active on some of the videos. she must have not started her diet & exercise program. cheryl you need to really get a life!

  • LOL comment from Triumphs: "as a tax paying, church going member of this community am allowed my opinion."

    Thought she had a huge debt!

    And what has the belief in a god or going to church have to do with expressing an opinion?

  • She makes death threat videos, stalks people, then sits in Church pretending to be a good Christian.

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