Armin Hary - Herzlichen Glückwunsch zum 70. Geburtstag

[noelimit23]

Wow! His reaction time was amazing. oh, crankyoldster, you are calculating in only the negative to todays standard. What about todays Mondo surfaces vs dirt or cyder? How about the new stiffer spikes? Not to mention are training techniques are far superior to the 1960 techniques. So I believe he would be in the 9.90 to 10.10 range.

[noelimit23]

Wow! His reaction time was amazing.

[xXxPsychosxXx]

wow...



[alex887799]

fuck me his start is INSANE

[logopants]

The usain bolt of his time

[gbaune]

Die Szenen vor dem Start sind krass: Der Typ neben Hary muss erst noch runter in den Startblock, da ist Hary schon losgelaufen....

[CrankyOldster]

It has been said that Armin Hary's reaction time was 0.04 sec, while the average human clocks 0.132. Given the rate of speed needed to clock a 10-flat 100, that put him a meter ahead before anyone else started running. I can't see how a human starter could judge him fairly.

[decadyne]

@CrankyOldster

That is a pile of complete garbage. The human limit to reaction has a tolerance due to the physiological nature of the system. The system cannot respond to stimuli faster than a certain rate, not even with stimulants. The nervous system has to carry the impulse, and even as a reflexive action, the complete loop takes about .1 of a second. Armin Hary did not have an alien system; he had a human one, and it is governed by the same exact rules. Toss this baloney out the window.

[decadyne]

@CrankyOldster

Now, what IS true is that Armin Hary was INFAMOUS for false starts. He had false starts all day long. You know why he false started all day long? Because he was anticipating the gun, not reacting to it as a stimulus. You can have reaction times of exactly 0.00, as many people did, when you time the gun. Armin Hary caught "flyers" all day long. Today, with blocks that catch pressure inside the possible human tolerance of reaction, Hary would be DQd or running around 10.2-10.4.

[superdave31]

false start

[bayhollywood]

@superdave31 If it isn't a false start it's close.

[Schdolberhannes]

Stimmt. War ein Fehlstart. Trotzdem möchte ich gerne mal den damaligen Hary gegen den heutigen Bolt sehen. Ich denke, dass wäre ne enge Kiste!

[FoerbHimself]

fehlstart ^^

[Kerasounta]

i think at these days with better equip and traningconditions.and maybe some dops

he would run under 9 seconds. not 9,8

in the 60s he ran unofficial in training 9,7.

i think he was talented...his technique was not so good

[poo72]

His start was incredible

[MrKarlozz]

If he had ran on a tartan track with electronic timing his time would be around 9.80.

[145bobby]

@MrKarlozz the shoe and spikes, the training, and lifting weights could probably given him that time, maybe even a bolt chaser idk, no one knows

[MrKarlozz]

@145bobby Let's hope we'll find a quick white man again. We have Christophe Lemaitre and he can probably challenge the black men. No offence though

[bayhollywood]

@MrKarlozz Lemaitre best is 10.04 wind +0.24m/s the wind is almost nothing. He's tall but i think he needs to gain some weight he looks weak. I do believe he will run

9.90 within 2 years.

[bayhollywood]

@MrKarlozz No doubt 9.80 on tartan track, and how many sprinter's would crack against that start.

[millertherunner]

He was the last white man to have the WR. It's not because I don't like black people but I hope that a white man will break the WR again.

[huntersingle]

it will never happen blacks are faster,,but i know one thing blacks are not as strong and powerful as whites so if it came down to gladiator show-down white man would prevail and crush the huge penised criminals pimps.

[MrKarlozz]

@huntersingle lol haha

[randomperson331]

@huntersingle smh at everything you just said, especially the last thing...so ignorant

[bayhollywood]

@millertherunner The problem is Bolt may be they greatest track and field athlete of all time. Bolt's 19.19 is #1 and his 9.58 is #2 and that's for all events in track. I don't look at color, i look for that special talent and Armin Hary was a special talent. Bobby Morrow was a special talent , Sorry but Valeri Borzov was not.

[decadyne]

@bayhollywood

Valeri Borzov wasn't a special talent? Explain it to me. He was undefeated in world competition for 2 years straight; he equaled Hary's european time; has 2 oly golds, a silver, and two bronzes, and is a mult-year Euro champ. Yeah. Not a special talent. Be real. Not liking Borzov is one thing, but he was at the top of the world.

[bayhollywood]

@millertherunner A cheetah or Usain Bolt are the only thing that will break 9.58. Wait I forgot or genetic manipulation or the next generation Mondo track.

[deaztec]

last clean sprinter.

[MightyMouse1989]

I saw on the history ch. that in some games during Hitler's time the german team was using steroids. I know it was a diffrent time but was their any reason to think he was on steroids.

[koehlicool]

Hary was clean. He never used any substances. He just had a quick start and awesome acceleration. The only problems he had was, being working class, the German athletics federation hated him. He quit after the olympics in Rome, frustrated of the treatment he received by the functionaries. He was a people's champ hated by the German olympic commitee

[145bobby]

@koehlicool do you think he could have ben sub 10? I think that if he had some strength(i.e. lifting back then probably was'nt as popular or used) he would have a better top speed and would be one of the best ever

[bayhollywood]

@145bobby I agree most those guy's back then looked average built wise.

[bayhollywood]

@koehlicool What a start!! and he was smooth!

[SchwarzundWeis]

every guy backthen was on something, and since the beginning of tour de france there has also been doping there. live with it

[lhwood777]

nobodies on steroids nomore not with all that jail time getting handed out...tyson gay and powell are clean

[loephatt]

It was always speculated, even at the time, that he anticipated the start. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But in simple point of fact, he was an incredible sprinter, above reproach with regard to the chemistry of modern sprinters, and deserves his place in the top five of all time.

[mstrunn]

Armin Hary was tested several times to ascertain if he jumped the gun, the results confirmed that he had exceptional reflexes, he did as many as 30 practice starts in training.

[Jackflash84]

Armin ran a 10 flat. This was before the juicing era. Most of the sprinters today are juicing. As of 2004 only 39 men had gone sub 10 in the history of the world and I'm willing to bet more than half are roiders who got away with it. American Jim Hines ran a 9.95 electronic timed in 1968. He had the fastest electronic time until it was broken by Calvin Smith in 1983. Jim Hines to me is the only guy who is not under my cloud of suspicion who has gone sub 10.

[Stahlgrau330Ci]

True, Hines was probably clean but you have to consider that Hines & SMith ran their records at high altitude.

[broadjumper1]

Hines had won the US trials in '68 (Sacramento is sea level) with a hand timed 9.9 but this race was also auto-timed @ 10.03. BTW, Hary's 10.0 was also auto-timed @ 10.25. Autotiming had been around for decades but didn't become official required for WR purposes until 1977.

[Jackflash84]

Armin ran a 10 flat. This was before the juicing era. Most of the sprinters today are juicing. As of 2004 only 39 men had gone sub 10 in the history of the world and I'm willing to bet more than half are roiders who got away with it. American Jim Hines ran a 9.95 electronic timed in 1968. He had the fastest electronic time until it was broken by Calvin Smith in 1983. Jim Hines to me is the only guy who is not under my cloud of suspicion.

[mescalero19]

Armin Hary had supernatural reflexes and generally won his races with his start, dave Sime was no slacker either, but the start by Hary was too much to make up, I saw Hary race in Mainz Germany against Willie Davenport in a 100. Hary smoked Davenport.

[ev1lb3rt]

issen kumpel von meinem opa ^^ wohnt aber leider nicht mehr in quierschied

[Rogere76]

What is interesting to me is how slim the sprinters were . Pretty quick without the bulk .

[mstrunn]

Sprinters come in all shapes and sizes, Calvin Smith was not big either but held the WR.

[bayhollywood]

@mstrunn They do come in all sizes yet they are starting to get taller it's a copy cat world. Will the tall men dominate the sprints?

[bossofalltime]

Doesn't like a false start at all, he goes right after the smoke is fired (which comes before the sound of the gun)

Ya see Armin was One of the fastest starters in historyand its known that when he was running in his prime years, that he would raise up into the set position slower than the other competitors, and start the race with his own movement (before hearing the gun) which caused the starters to fire the gun. In effect, the starting official allowed him to start the race

[denberg2]

If that's not a false start nothing is!

[Jimbofer]

false start

[Holbeinisscheisse]

Genial

[paulthefan]

looks like he jumped the gun.