I like V8 also. but the way i see it is a 4 cylinder tuned with E85 running high boost and aggressive timing should be just as good as a V8 on 91 pump gas. with the price fuel going up i will try to stick with my little 4 cylinder. but since i use ethanol i am sometimes well into the red line before i shift and not at 4000rpm.
At 3000rpm, my 2004 wrx STi is making about 150awhp. At 4000rpm, it's making a little under 260awhp (peak is 310awhp). At 3000rpm, my car is making 250awtq, and it makes it's peak torque at 3700rpm, 340awtq. If I were to get bigger injectors, and e85, it would make the power earlier and hold longer, and make about 50 more horsepower and 60-70 more lb feet of torque. God I love boost.
@luminaeus try 2004... and a tiny stock turbo... and it has to spin all four tires... Pretty relevant. Im comparing ENGINES, they havent changed much from 80's to 00's.
A 5.0 Mustang from the 80s had 157 hp. A turbo Subaru from the 80s had 95hp. Wheee....
300hp from a K04 is pretty good for 2004. But what happens if I buy the K04 kit for my 2011 GTI? 360hp, 380tq. Why so much more power? Direct injection. What a difference new technology makes...
@luminaeus Cars were making underrated 370hp-500hp and even higher torque numbers in the 60's-early 70's using carburetors. Fuel injection really only helps efficiency, hence why a 6.2L in 1969 could make 425 hp but get 13 mpg at best and a 6.2L today can make 425 hp but also get 24 mpg. The reason cars shitted out in the later 70's and 80's was because of the smog regulations, gas prices, insurance costs, etc. So basically, the key to power isn't fuel/air delivery, it's compression.
@tpops123 Some were underrated and some were overrated... SAE/DIN. Cars today can do more with less because of better rubber and more efficient drivetrains and aerodynamics
so i dont get it, why is this why you love v8's? because my 2.2 vtec 5th gen prelude accelerates faster than that, even if im doing 4000 rpm shifts which is still 1600 rpm away from vtec even kicking in, so please, tell me, what about this video makes you love v8's? lol
@luminaeus if my car "isnt faster" why is it than i can accelerate quicker and reach higher speeds and yes i realize this was only 4k rpm shifts, i still accelerate quicker doing 4k rpm shifts and thats still 1.6k away from vtec engaging even, exhaust still needs work but the sound is all preference anyways, and i can still pass without dropping gears as well, so like i said, why does this video show why he loves v8 when cars with half the engine are faster?
Because you are only comparing your car to full size trucks, moron! The FACT is even slow 2 valve Mustang GTs are faster than Preludes. Anybody who thinks stock Preludes are fast must either be a ricer or never seen a fast car in their lives. Which one are you?
@01Z06guy i am NOT a ricer, a "ricer" is someone who does body kits and such like that, rice= race inspired cosmetic enhancements, i know for a fact that my car isn't the fastest, i've been in fast cars, such as a sti, 3000gt, gtr, stuff like that where it will do 0-60 in under 4 seconds, im just stating that if you were to compare say a mustang gt even of the same year (98) my car is still faster whether you like it or not, just saying
@MrFatman212 "a mustang gt even of the same year (98) my car is still faster"
WRONG. A '98 Prelude is a 15 second car. A '98 Mustang GT is a 14 second car. Thats really a huge difference. Your car is MUCH slower than a mustang GT of the same year. Get a clue moron, your car is slow.
Is funny how v8 lovers compare their muscle with 4 cylinder import. No shit it has more hp. It has 4 more cylinders n like 4.2 litters more.you guys should be giving props that they could get that amout of HP n speed of a 4 cylinder that does 32mpg.
@64oldsf85man nah you all do, posting videos on youtube because your all so cool. Yes i might have "fag box car", but I don't go posting videos on Youtube showing how well I can change gear.
I beat them every time, might I add, in a prelude, from a stop, w front wheel drive... lol every-time... all the way up to the new 2012 5.0's if we r on the highway from a 80 roll... somtimes i use my lil 35 shot hit to put it in thier face, tht i can hit 155 before they hit 130.. then im sure they all realize they just wasted almost 40 grand...
It's not that you win the race, it's that they're not racing. They're just driving normally, laughing at your stupid fart cannon ricer as it desperately tries to accelerate.
@VtecdippinBB6siR i can completely agree, a couple of my friends drive f150s with 4.6l's, one of them tops out at 160 because he has larger tires which slow it down slightly and the other tops out at 170, while i just left 3rg gear at 150 lmao fastest i've had it was 250, so why people think these 4.6's and 5.0 are the shit is beyond me, they should give mad props to a 2.2l bb6 lude going 80-90 km/h faster than their trucks with more than double the engine
um ..yea, my lude pulls exacly like tht..4 banger, 4000 rpm at 70, in 5th, and everything.. thts a 2 valve v8.. theres no power there lol. 2 valve, v8, 4600cc gt, modular motor or (4.6L) as u like to call it prolly, is the same thing as a 4 valve, 2200cc, w vtec :) and it only uses half the gas when its not needed as well... those cars do not have 280 horse bc my car only has 220... and i beat stock gt's everytime. Dont need a v8 when u have vtec all the way to 8500 rpm :)
I love going on videos like this and looking at all the derpy comments from people that don't actually get what ricer means. Pro-tip: Ricer does not mean Asian car.
I like V8s, I'm just not a fan of most of the chassis they're in. Too big and too heavy. Plus I don't get why Aussie/Yank V8s have such a tendency to stay N/A and just smash large amounts of litres through the engine. Why not go smaller with forced induction?
Still, I'd own an Ariel Atom 500 in a heartbeat. And probably die in it.
I didn't say it meant asian cars, dipshit. I called that ricer a ricer because he IS a ricer. I have a whole video explaining what a ricer is. Its a person who thinks a certain way. Smaller displacement with FI often means more weight, more cost, worse reliability, and worse fuel mileage than modern, light weight, large displacement, N/A engines. It's why LS-x engines are swapped into everything. They are better overall than smaller FI engines.
why not? why does it matter how the motor makes its torque? the point is you don't need a V8 to get big torque down low and in fact a smaller turbo motor can make more torque while being more efficient throughout the entire rpm range.
you're basically saying 'thats a forest green, so you can't really compare to a neon green." they're both green.
They're both motors, and they both make torque. different ways to be sure, but the end product is the same.
@liej010 Lmfao yeah after about 10 pulls ur shit will overheat and go into shutdown mode. I;ve seen the tt 335i do it against a G37 on motortrend's channel.
Ill admit, i like V8's. They sound awesome. But, i also like the sound of a 4 banger revving up hard. I like all types of cars, and all types of engines. I wanna hear this thing redline.
torque over high end horsepower... hmm.. believe it was once said that horsepower is the art of going fast, torque is the art of "feeling" like you are going fast. just sayin.
My dodge's lugnuts take more torque than your stang puts out. Lol, Actually it is a good grunt vid, everyone who knows cars knows torque makes the muscle, horsepower is just bragging numbers. Thats why I drive a 325hp Dodge diesel with 610 ft lbs torque. (it is semi stock) and will eat most cars half its weight off the line if i got turbo pushin 6-8psi of boost before i give her the go-go
@jecht86 Yeah. I believe he's more wrong. There are plenty of "4 bangers" that make torque at low RPM, including honda motors. I know my bolt-on k20 makes torque around where yours does. A good tune can is the answer. But there are k24's which are known for their low end torque, and the older honda non vtec motors. The cobalt is an i4 motor. The foxbody came in a 4 cylinder also. Never saw their dyno graphs, but i'm sure it can make low end torque too
@daniel0771 You're absolutely right, I mean some people are saying a 4cyl can do that.... hahahahaha! Not without an expensive list of upgrade at least
i like a diesel for the same reason.. i'm not always gonna be rolling around flooring the gas.. most of my driving is between 1-4K RPMs... so i like my V8s and diesels better
i dont get it? i drive a camaro and i love my car,but im not sure what you were trying to demonstrate in this video...? nothing about that was particularly fast...?
I own an STI, but many of you people don't know how much fun it is to drive a car with a wide power band. They may not be fast sometimes, but having power any time you put your foot down makes it really fun to drive.
@IRONRAVERS It isn't supposed to be an all out driving to redline video. I am shifting at 4000 rpm on purpose. If you want to see some real driving look at my other videos.
The hell are you talking about? The point of this video is to show how easily a good torque number can get the car going. This isn't some stupid tuner shit where you have to rev the hell out of the car.
@PFCTurner311 Don't mind him. I looked at his latest comments and every single one of them is condescending towards who he talking to. Literally all he does is look at videos and post shit on them.
what's the point of saying his car is slow or my car is better/faster. WHO CARES. We all like different things 4 bangers, v6's or v8's. But we all like cars. So stop hatin.
yeah V8 engines are awesome, my ford racing 427 does 535HP at only 5600rpm and 590tq at 4400 its an awesome engine mounted in an awesome mustang 68 coupe
@12v5spd just to make sure u don't sound like a dumbass again in the future ur talking about the type gas vehicles use according to a high powered engine or a low powered engine u need to use different types of gas and plus most vehicles that use diesel fuel are V8 s just with a little bit more power and more torque
I own a mustang, sniper chipped,pipe,flowmasters,with other bolt on's. It runs great! but burn gas like a motha focka!!! but thats my fun car,so fuck you and have a great day :)
@cstritz the difference between an i6 and a v6 is that ones a v the others in a line lol. I've seen soooo many i6 come out with the same #'s as a v6 does. There really isn't much of a difference between the two lol.
@theironman117 while that's true on average inlines create torque easier and v's create more power, that's how my teachers explained it. i's are more balanced v's are compact. you can rev an i out farther also
ill be honest with ya here the video is kinda wierd not bad just wierd but i understand what your saying here as my saying goes "TORQUE: Its what American was built on and is still building on today"
@BigGee84 you drive a civic dont you :/ Peak accelleration does not always occur at peak hp. I occurs when the highest specific force it being applied to the wheels. Ie, when peak torque is closest to peak power, somewhere in that medium in between is where the maxium force is applied to the wheels. Ask your tuner to explain further with a dyno. For example my 4L turbo inline 6 pulls more gforce at 4.5k rpm than it does a 6(peak power) because it has 1000nm torque
I'll be more specific: At a given speed, peak acceleration ALWAYS occurs at peak power. Using your example, the wheel torque available at 4.5k in, say, 3rd gear, is less than the wheel torque available at the the *same speed* in 2nd. Flooring the throttle in the latter case results in greater acceleration than the former.
The guy in the video doesn't seem to realise what happens to his wheel torque every time he shifts early.
@BigGee84 Same gear.. What I am saying is In say 2nd gear. My car makes peak torque at around 3.5-4k rpm then max power from 5.5- 6k it pulls hardest at around 4.5 before the torque drops off. varies from engine to engine. In smaller engines with less torque the concentration of acceleration is much closer to the peak power output. whereas my car being larger and completely different bore/stroke/rod ratio and turbocharged is much further towards the end of the torque band than yours.
Torque isn't just for towing. In many every day situations, you don't really want to downshift and rev up your engine to redline. Simply just put your foot down and let the torque of the engine do the work.
He's not trying to make 0 - 60 times here, he's just representing what a torque from the engine can do.
@BigGee84 1. Torque is one of the many factors of acceleration 2. Shifting at 4000rpm so that I am not relying on the peak HP to accelerate and am accurately displaying how low end tq can help you accelerate without the need of running the car to redline.
3. While this can often be said to be true this particular car had 3.73 gears installed.
@kevinp496691 a v8 has a much lower decibel rating than a v6. A v6 will be louder straight piped because it has a higher decibel rating but a v8 straight piped sounds deeper and louder because all the work going thru the cylinders is coming out as a big ass smoke cloud causing a deeper noise. Depending on the size of the pipes a 4 inch pipe will be louder because it has more space to go thru. A 3 inch pipe will be deeper because it takes more back pressure to get it out. Just to let u know a v8
460 ford 10:1 compression 610Ft/Lbs at 2500 475HP at 4500 i'd like to see a fuckin v-tec pull that kind of numbers with only an aluminum intake and a small cam
Let's put it this way. A 2001 Honda civic regular generates 110 ft/lbs of torque. Times that by .85 and you get the average torque at the wheels. That's 93.5. An average v8's lug nuts require 100-135 ft/lbs of torque so they won't fall off. So to put it in retrospect, yes, a v8's lug nuts require more torque than a regular I4 Honda civic can generate.
@Dreamevil2009 your gas mileage in that awd turbo 4 cylinder is like 20mph because its awd. 4 and 6 cylinders are for people who want to get the most out of their gas. 8 cylinders are for people who want to show off their engine and sound. Most v8 owners could care less about horsepower. Its a fuckin v8.... ANY v8 is going to sound nice and be fast, high 14's on the 1/4 is hella fast.... most v6 and I4 cars can't even make it to low 16's. you have to trick out a 4 cylinder to make it fast.
@theironman117 agrreed i cant stand the people at my college that have brand new or new ish I4 that are turbo and thing there bad ass..well if i turbod my v6 it would have more hp and tq at the same psi then there little 4 banger and it pisses me off that there that ingornant.....i have a v6 mustang with just gears and it runs a very low 15 in the 1/2 mile and some guys brandddd new kia (2.4 turbo) runs just a little bit fast then me and hes f/i......sad sad sad
@SStarwind your 2.5 liter can do it faster because its lighter.... But can it make past 100mph? It would take a serious amount of torque and horsepower for a 2.5 liter to make it past 100mph.... and even then it would take like 20 seconds to even get to 100mph lol. 4, 5, and 6 cylinders are good for making 0-60 but when it comes to 0-100 or 0-100-0 or even the 1/4.... Forget it.
Jesus people. I knew this video would spawn arguments. And bring out all the immature people. I know a Turbo 4 can have more torque. There is still a bit of lag though. All this video was meant to do was show how instantaneous the tq is on a low powered V8. Yes a low powered V8. I know this isn't the fastest car in the world. hell it was only a mid 13 second car.
@SpeedDemons420 i consider 14s fast considering my car cost me 1000 bucks and barely makes 170 hp while maintaining a weight of 3500 lbs wet and can easily do 13s with an engine upgrade
@uploaded113redone what kinda car do you have? and do u mean 170whp? what car weighs 3500 ibs and has that low of power? I dont see a 170bhp car running 14s thats LT1 territory even 2600 ibs Integra GSRs with 170bhp run 15s
Sick.
BaltimaVQ35 34 minutes ago
Seriously, i find this as a waste of time on youtube... This video should be taken off, its retarded
singh9181 1 hour ago
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MrIhatefakerappers 5 hours ago
You don't have to have a V8 to make low end torque, take a look at most modern engines you fool..
WoZIMoo 6 hours ago
I like V8 also. but the way i see it is a 4 cylinder tuned with E85 running high boost and aggressive timing should be just as good as a V8 on 91 pump gas. with the price fuel going up i will try to stick with my little 4 cylinder. but since i use ethanol i am sometimes well into the red line before i shift and not at 4000rpm.
switchgrassfuel 6 hours ago
devil's fuel diesel if you like tq example bmw 4 banger 380tq – 1.900-2.750 rpm 184bhp
nasturama 12 hours ago
gas mileage suckssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss tho
blackttsupra320 13 hours ago
Turbos are for cheaters to easy to get so much power 95mm turbo 2.0, 4 banger 1400 horsepower.
uoweme50 15 hours ago
At 3000rpm, my 2004 wrx STi is making about 150awhp. At 4000rpm, it's making a little under 260awhp (peak is 310awhp). At 3000rpm, my car is making 250awtq, and it makes it's peak torque at 3700rpm, 340awtq. If I were to get bigger injectors, and e85, it would make the power earlier and hold longer, and make about 50 more horsepower and 60-70 more lb feet of torque. God I love boost.
jimmytheas 1 day ago
do this with a european tsi engine same speed but a big smile at the gas station.
Freimopp777 1 day ago
One word... IMPREZA 300lb/tq STOCK... FOUR CYLINDERS BRO
TheSchmiders 1 day ago
@TheSchmiders
Yeah, cool, a turbocharged four cylinder from 2012 has the same power as 1980's era V8.
Why don't you compare your car to a horse carriage from the late 1800s? Keep it relevant, 'bro'.
luminaeus 1 day ago
@luminaeus try 2004... and a tiny stock turbo... and it has to spin all four tires... Pretty relevant. Im comparing ENGINES, they havent changed much from 80's to 00's.
TheSchmiders 1 day ago
@TheSchmiders
Engines haven't changed much since the 80s?
A 5.0 Mustang from the 80s had 157 hp. A turbo Subaru from the 80s had 95hp. Wheee....
300hp from a K04 is pretty good for 2004. But what happens if I buy the K04 kit for my 2011 GTI? 360hp, 380tq. Why so much more power? Direct injection. What a difference new technology makes...
luminaeus 1 day ago
@luminaeus im just saying... not all 4 cylinders are all high end... and even if some are. The sound of a Growling boxer engine is worth it.
TheSchmiders 1 day ago
@luminaeus Cars were making underrated 370hp-500hp and even higher torque numbers in the 60's-early 70's using carburetors. Fuel injection really only helps efficiency, hence why a 6.2L in 1969 could make 425 hp but get 13 mpg at best and a 6.2L today can make 425 hp but also get 24 mpg. The reason cars shitted out in the later 70's and 80's was because of the smog regulations, gas prices, insurance costs, etc. So basically, the key to power isn't fuel/air delivery, it's compression.
tpops123 20 hours ago
@tpops123 Some were underrated and some were overrated... SAE/DIN. Cars today can do more with less because of better rubber and more efficient drivetrains and aerodynamics
KingCast65 18 hours ago
Ok.... My Inline 5 makes 300 ft/lbs of torque at 1950 rpms...
USGiorgi 1 day ago
@USGiorgi
Stock...
USGiorgi 1 day ago
You have a 4.6? This is weak...
Quatermain98526 1 day ago
so i dont get it, why is this why you love v8's? because my 2.2 vtec 5th gen prelude accelerates faster than that, even if im doing 4000 rpm shifts which is still 1600 rpm away from vtec even kicking in, so please, tell me, what about this video makes you love v8's? lol
MrFatman212 1 day ago
@MrFatman212 Lol@vtec
Axiarus 1 day ago
@Axiarus i dont see why you're loling at vtec considering they're really not that slow, i'd love to see a mustang owner lol at a nsx...
MrFatman212 1 day ago
@MrFatman212 you sir, are a troll and are kindly being asked to leave. thank you
bykerboy223 1 day ago
@MrFatman212
1. Your prelude isn't faster.
2. Your prelude sounds like shit.
3. Low end torque means you don't have to drop to 2nd gear to pass on the highway.
luminaeus 1 day ago
@luminaeus if my car "isnt faster" why is it than i can accelerate quicker and reach higher speeds and yes i realize this was only 4k rpm shifts, i still accelerate quicker doing 4k rpm shifts and thats still 1.6k away from vtec engaging even, exhaust still needs work but the sound is all preference anyways, and i can still pass without dropping gears as well, so like i said, why does this video show why he loves v8 when cars with half the engine are faster?
MrFatman212 15 hours ago
@MrFatman212
Because you are only comparing your car to full size trucks, moron! The FACT is even slow 2 valve Mustang GTs are faster than Preludes. Anybody who thinks stock Preludes are fast must either be a ricer or never seen a fast car in their lives. Which one are you?
01Z06guy 10 hours ago
@01Z06guy i am NOT a ricer, a "ricer" is someone who does body kits and such like that, rice= race inspired cosmetic enhancements, i know for a fact that my car isn't the fastest, i've been in fast cars, such as a sti, 3000gt, gtr, stuff like that where it will do 0-60 in under 4 seconds, im just stating that if you were to compare say a mustang gt even of the same year (98) my car is still faster whether you like it or not, just saying
MrFatman212 8 hours ago
@MrFatman212 "a mustang gt even of the same year (98) my car is still faster"
WRONG. A '98 Prelude is a 15 second car. A '98 Mustang GT is a 14 second car. Thats really a huge difference. Your car is MUCH slower than a mustang GT of the same year. Get a clue moron, your car is slow.
01Z06guy 1 hour ago
n wats the point...
lyvvracingtou 1 day ago
Is funny how v8 lovers compare their muscle with 4 cylinder import. No shit it has more hp. It has 4 more cylinders n like 4.2 litters more.you guys should be giving props that they could get that amout of HP n speed of a 4 cylinder that does 32mpg.
MrAndydr24 2 days ago
And then?
fortressofcomfort 2 days ago
200 honda owners were pissed off they couldn't accelerate that fast before 4000rpm's.
ShawnSubaru 2 days ago
@ShawnSubaru No, 200 Chevy owners are wondering why this guy thinks it's fast.
Quatermain98526 1 day ago
lol. I don't even know what to say.
sjjdiienno1 2 days ago
You Americans think your shit hot driving a car with a manual gearbox! haha
Ollie930 2 days ago
@Ollie930 douche, we actually dont, i bet you do to in your fag box car
64oldsf85man 2 days ago
@64oldsf85man nah you all do, posting videos on youtube because your all so cool. Yes i might have "fag box car", but I don't go posting videos on Youtube showing how well I can change gear.
Ollie930 1 day ago
You can get that kinda "performance" from a fucking yugo. If you gonna show off your "mighty" v8, at least get a good one
jamespondy0 2 days ago
Where was i supposed to be impressed? Must have blinked at that moment, sorry...
2FuriousFreak 2 days ago
how do you know when you need to shift gear? o_O
TheGamerOfLeauge 2 days ago
awesome, those torqy v-8s are crazy.
Blindrider01 2 days ago
pretty gay! this is why like my stupid slow mustang so i can shift early. gay
jdm06dc5 3 days ago
Usdm sucks 8=======D
ross656565 3 days ago
Lol, that's where the powerband is on my little two liter turbo :D
luminaeus 3 days ago
I beat them every time, might I add, in a prelude, from a stop, w front wheel drive... lol every-time... all the way up to the new 2012 5.0's if we r on the highway from a 80 roll... somtimes i use my lil 35 shot hit to put it in thier face, tht i can hit 155 before they hit 130.. then im sure they all realize they just wasted almost 40 grand...
VtecdippinBB6siR 3 days ago
@VtecdippinBB6siR
It's not that you win the race, it's that they're not racing. They're just driving normally, laughing at your stupid fart cannon ricer as it desperately tries to accelerate.
luminaeus 3 days ago 6
@luminaeus you couldnt of said it better
kunemkez69 3 days ago
@VtecdippinBB6siR
2 vale Mustangs are slow. But they're still faster than your pathetic pile of shit. Grow up ricer.
01Z06guy 2 days ago
@VtecdippinBB6siR i can completely agree, a couple of my friends drive f150s with 4.6l's, one of them tops out at 160 because he has larger tires which slow it down slightly and the other tops out at 170, while i just left 3rg gear at 150 lmao fastest i've had it was 250, so why people think these 4.6's and 5.0 are the shit is beyond me, they should give mad props to a 2.2l bb6 lude going 80-90 km/h faster than their trucks with more than double the engine
MrFatman212 1 day ago
@MrFatman212
You have to compare to a full size truck to feel fast? You make me laugh!
01Z06guy 10 hours ago
um ..yea, my lude pulls exacly like tht..4 banger, 4000 rpm at 70, in 5th, and everything.. thts a 2 valve v8.. theres no power there lol. 2 valve, v8, 4600cc gt, modular motor or (4.6L) as u like to call it prolly, is the same thing as a 4 valve, 2200cc, w vtec :) and it only uses half the gas when its not needed as well... those cars do not have 280 horse bc my car only has 220... and i beat stock gt's everytime. Dont need a v8 when u have vtec all the way to 8500 rpm :)
VtecdippinBB6siR 3 days ago
@VtecdippinBB6siR
Your "'lude" is a 15 second car. Its slow as fuck. Only a ricer thinks that's fast.
01Z06guy 2 days ago
I love going on videos like this and looking at all the derpy comments from people that don't actually get what ricer means. Pro-tip: Ricer does not mean Asian car.
I like V8s, I'm just not a fan of most of the chassis they're in. Too big and too heavy. Plus I don't get why Aussie/Yank V8s have such a tendency to stay N/A and just smash large amounts of litres through the engine. Why not go smaller with forced induction?
Still, I'd own an Ariel Atom 500 in a heartbeat. And probably die in it.
TheBrutalLordLoki 15 hours ago
@TheBrutalLordLoki What about the Z06's 427 or as you may know it 7.0 it gets 26 mpg on the highway or the camaro's 6.2 that gets 23 highway mpg.
uoweme50 15 hours ago
@TheBrutalLordLoki
I didn't say it meant asian cars, dipshit. I called that ricer a ricer because he IS a ricer. I have a whole video explaining what a ricer is. Its a person who thinks a certain way. Smaller displacement with FI often means more weight, more cost, worse reliability, and worse fuel mileage than modern, light weight, large displacement, N/A engines. It's why LS-x engines are swapped into everything. They are better overall than smaller FI engines.
01Z06guy 10 hours ago
@VtecdippinBB6siR BUMP ^^^^^^
Audiman0aha 2 days ago
the bmw 2.0 turbo creates 258 lb/ft at 1250 rpm. that's a 4 cylinder. boom roasted
liej010 4 days ago 12
@liej010 Thats a F/I car so can't really compare to N/A
BlackDeath2626 4 hours ago
@BlackDeath2626
why not? why does it matter how the motor makes its torque? the point is you don't need a V8 to get big torque down low and in fact a smaller turbo motor can make more torque while being more efficient throughout the entire rpm range.
you're basically saying 'thats a forest green, so you can't really compare to a neon green." they're both green.
They're both motors, and they both make torque. different ways to be sure, but the end product is the same.
AWJFunk 51 minutes ago
@liej010 not to mention their 3.0 i6 that makes 332 ft/lbs at 1500rpm
SuzukiRider93 2 hours ago
@liej010 Lmfao yeah after about 10 pulls ur shit will overheat and go into shutdown mode. I;ve seen the tt 335i do it against a G37 on motortrend's channel.
BaltimaVQ35 34 minutes ago
what kind of car is this?
RichardMike93 4 days ago
@RichardMike93 guess it's a crown vic public one at that. cop ones have 140mph on the SPEDOMETER (for those who just call it the DASH)
PetarVN 4 days ago
Ill admit, i like V8's. They sound awesome. But, i also like the sound of a 4 banger revving up hard. I like all types of cars, and all types of engines. I wanna hear this thing redline.
ndogg360 4 days ago
this aint no v8 the dash only goes to 120 LIAR
yungzicky 4 days ago
@yungzicky i hope your joking.
Saucy0069 4 days ago
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@yungzicky Wrong. My truck is a V8, 1990 silverado. My speedometer only goes up to 80mph.....
ruthlessmayn 3 days ago
@yungzicky
The speedometer in a Chevy 3500HD only goes to 120. I guess that 6.0 liter V8 isn't a V8?
luminaeus 3 days ago
@luminaeus oh yeah i thought i t a mustangs i was looking at mustangs
yungzicky 1 day ago
torque over high end horsepower... hmm.. believe it was once said that horsepower is the art of going fast, torque is the art of "feeling" like you are going fast. just sayin.
atfain 4 days ago
My dodge's lugnuts take more torque than your stang puts out. Lol, Actually it is a good grunt vid, everyone who knows cars knows torque makes the muscle, horsepower is just bragging numbers. Thats why I drive a 325hp Dodge diesel with 610 ft lbs torque. (it is semi stock) and will eat most cars half its weight off the line if i got turbo pushin 6-8psi of boost before i give her the go-go
outalinecowboy 4 days ago
@xmodrock fine, but you shouldnt be doing that to your car. plus i drive a 4 banger, turbo awd. it goes pretty quick, peak torque is 3700rpm...
jecht86 4 days ago
@jecht86 Yeah. I believe he's more wrong. There are plenty of "4 bangers" that make torque at low RPM, including honda motors. I know my bolt-on k20 makes torque around where yours does. A good tune can is the answer. But there are k24's which are known for their low end torque, and the older honda non vtec motors. The cobalt is an i4 motor. The foxbody came in a 4 cylinder also. Never saw their dyno graphs, but i'm sure it can make low end torque too
joescivic 4 days ago
erm. a 4 cylinder can do the same thing... not impressed :(
jecht86 5 days ago
@jecht86 a 4-banger canot pull that hard at low RPMs.. your wrong.. shows you never drove a 4-banger before.. they only make good power in high RPMs
xmodrock 4 days ago
@jecht86 hondas sohc non v tec hit torque at 4k and thats auto like what your driving there lmao
JESUSSK8R1 3 days ago
i love how i love how nobody realizes what this guy is trying to show you and i guarantee most of the people who comment dont even own a car
daniel0771 5 days ago 13
@daniel0771 You're absolutely right, I mean some people are saying a 4cyl can do that.... hahahahaha! Not without an expensive list of upgrade at least
kevin1311 5 days ago
And this demonstration will be the reason why you'll always lose a race. Granny shifting not double clutching like you should, LOL.
leaveatrail9256 5 days ago
@leaveatrail9256 lmao chill dominic
JESUSSK8R1 3 days ago
i like a diesel for the same reason.. i'm not always gonna be rolling around flooring the gas.. most of my driving is between 1-4K RPMs... so i like my V8s and diesels better
xmodrock 5 days ago
u should see how a integra type r pulls in 5th at 40 kmh
musicmademeaddict11 5 days ago
@musicmademeaddict11 What? slow as balls? yeah we all know that already
Chadb89 4 days ago
where's vtec?
123ninjajoe123 1 week ago 3
Hp matters, torque only helps you make more hp at a given rpm.
DrFail35000vr 1 week ago
i dont get it? i drive a camaro and i love my car,but im not sure what you were trying to demonstrate in this video...? nothing about that was particularly fast...?
REDpaintMAKESitFAST 1 week ago
whats the point dude???
gambino888 1 week ago
i bet most poeple that fight about cars on the internet, dont even know how an engine works. good vid man, its all about the cubes
hillchampion2 1 week ago
lol the amount of fuel he just used in this video would be me using my TDI for the day...
Andre609 1 week ago
@Andre609 cute.
huntdis222 6 days ago
@Andre609 agreed
byras20 3 days ago
wat u driven
shanelumsdon11112 1 week ago
@shanelumsdon11112 mustang gt.
MrAce987 1 day ago
cromo
certinhoVTI 1 week ago
haaa, im cletus and I need to wipe my ass.
yyargghhh 1 week ago
I own an STI, but many of you people don't know how much fun it is to drive a car with a wide power band. They may not be fast sometimes, but having power any time you put your foot down makes it really fun to drive.
iXetsuei 1 week ago
Poor driving...
IRONRAVERS 1 week ago
@IRONRAVERS It isn't supposed to be an all out driving to redline video. I am shifting at 4000 rpm on purpose. If you want to see some real driving look at my other videos.
nevermissclancom 1 week ago 21
@IRONRAVERS your retarded
mmacfarland1 3 days ago
@IRONRAVERS
The hell are you talking about? The point of this video is to show how easily a good torque number can get the car going. This isn't some stupid tuner shit where you have to rev the hell out of the car.
TheReapersSon 1 day ago
WOW MAN FASTEST CAR SOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI! In 1837.
kevinannaward2 1 week ago
This dude is a red neck
Jordanspiegel 1 week ago 30
@Jordanspiegel That is so much farther from the truth. I hate many outdoor activities. I live in a very nice neighborhood and I don't chew tobacco.
nevermissclancom 1 week ago 19
@nevermissclancom Yes but do you believe in evolution? Thats what makes you fucking retarded
Jordanspiegel 6 days ago
@Jordanspiegel do what? What makes me retarded? You make absolutely no sense.
nevermissclancom 6 days ago
@Jordanspiegel Why? Because he has a southern accent? You are an idiot...
PFCTurner311 1 week ago
@PFCTurner311 Don't mind him. I looked at his latest comments and every single one of them is condescending towards who he talking to. Literally all he does is look at videos and post shit on them.
nevermissclancom 1 week ago
@Jordanspiegel wish i could thumbs up twice
LOGIC42369 3 days ago
4000rpm? dick..
stew8fpv 1 week ago
ur car is shit
sweettspuffs 1 week ago
@sweettspuffs Lol, your car is so much better. Oh wait, you don't have a car. Faggot.
OleStephens 1 week ago
what's the point of saying his car is slow or my car is better/faster. WHO CARES. We all like different things 4 bangers, v6's or v8's. But we all like cars. So stop hatin.
22rsx 1 week ago
i can still tow you away with my 5.4 ;)
clonemate55 1 week ago
my v6 ranger climbs faster
ilikestrains451 1 week ago
lol im a v8 guy 100% please take this vid down my gf 4cyl sti woud smoke that thing
j21hustlin 1 week ago 2
Slow piece of shit.
england4meDW 1 week ago
tragedia co za dziecko za kierownica
ptq349n81 1 week ago
Not much to really go after 4,000 RPM in a V8...
singh9181 1 week ago
carol shelby put it best "horsepower sells cars, torque wins races"
sendmhome 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
MY gs makes more tq then your V8 does on low rpm with non turbo 2jz.
I guess u have never been in a fast car.
karengs100 2 weeks ago
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karengs100 2 weeks ago
yeah V8 engines are awesome, my ford racing 427 does 535HP at only 5600rpm and 590tq at 4400 its an awesome engine mounted in an awesome mustang 68 coupe
FORD427W 2 weeks ago
My stock speed6 has 274hp and 290ft-lbs of torque and is lighter. Max torque by 4700 rpm. God I love a snall turbo mounted to a big 4 banger haha
psychoticcivic 2 weeks ago
@psychoticcivic Thats at the crank. At the crank my old GT was making 312hp 377tq
nevermissclancom 2 weeks ago
@nevermissclancom and yet the mazda will rape the gt around a proper track.
Alex98098098 1 week ago
@psychoticcivic yeah but thats out of that v8, i love my all motor 383 stroker 480 hp at 6200 rpm and 453 ftl lbs of torque at 3800 rpm :)
Lifewontwait29 1 week ago
I'll take a V8 any day :)
nerwin 2 weeks ago
low end torque, something a ricer will never understand
Chris02LS1ss 2 weeks ago
@Chris02LS1ss damn right, they are just jealous.
nerwin 2 weeks ago
is this a fuckstang or just another hillbilly's stupid toy?
alekseygurov21 2 weeks ago
want torque? get a diesel not a POS v8
12v5spd 2 weeks ago
@12v5spd just to make sure u don't sound like a dumbass again in the future ur talking about the type gas vehicles use according to a high powered engine or a low powered engine u need to use different types of gas and plus most vehicles that use diesel fuel are V8 s just with a little bit more power and more torque
skullcrusher58 2 weeks ago
my lawnmower has more torque than that piece of rat shit
sneekyturbo1234 2 weeks ago
I own a mustang, sniper chipped,pipe,flowmasters,with other bolt on's. It runs great! but burn gas like a motha focka!!! but thats my fun car,so fuck you and have a great day :)
TheRickRod 2 weeks ago
and thats why BMW's I-6 FI engines are so fun to drive daily. Not alot of high end power, but 300ftlbs at 1800rpm is fun~!
Purepromedia 2 weeks ago
@cstritz the difference between an i6 and a v6 is that ones a v the others in a line lol. I've seen soooo many i6 come out with the same #'s as a v6 does. There really isn't much of a difference between the two lol.
theironman117 2 weeks ago
@theironman117 while that's true on average inlines create torque easier and v's create more power, that's how my teachers explained it. i's are more balanced v's are compact. you can rev an i out farther also
TheCamRobinson 2 weeks ago
selfish v8 lover, burning all the gas for not good reason.
mrbigtian 2 weeks ago
@mrbigtian and your breathing alot of air that the rest of us could use, but we are not complaining.
laptoph4x 2 weeks ago
@laptoph4x air has no limit, gas has.
mrbigtian 2 weeks ago
ill be honest with ya here the video is kinda wierd not bad just wierd but i understand what your saying here as my saying goes "TORQUE: Its what American was built on and is still building on today"
DPense 2 weeks ago
@BigGee84 you drive a civic dont you :/ Peak accelleration does not always occur at peak hp. I occurs when the highest specific force it being applied to the wheels. Ie, when peak torque is closest to peak power, somewhere in that medium in between is where the maxium force is applied to the wheels. Ask your tuner to explain further with a dyno. For example my 4L turbo inline 6 pulls more gforce at 4.5k rpm than it does a 6(peak power) because it has 1000nm torque
FormulaVeeRacer1200 2 weeks ago
@FormulaVeeRacer1200
I'll be more specific: At a given speed, peak acceleration ALWAYS occurs at peak power. Using your example, the wheel torque available at 4.5k in, say, 3rd gear, is less than the wheel torque available at the the *same speed* in 2nd. Flooring the throttle in the latter case results in greater acceleration than the former.
The guy in the video doesn't seem to realise what happens to his wheel torque every time he shifts early.
BigGee84 2 weeks ago
@BigGee84 Same gear.. What I am saying is In say 2nd gear. My car makes peak torque at around 3.5-4k rpm then max power from 5.5- 6k it pulls hardest at around 4.5 before the torque drops off. varies from engine to engine. In smaller engines with less torque the concentration of acceleration is much closer to the peak power output. whereas my car being larger and completely different bore/stroke/rod ratio and turbocharged is much further towards the end of the torque band than yours.
FormulaVeeRacer1200 2 weeks ago
Torque isn't just for towing. In many every day situations, you don't really want to downshift and rev up your engine to redline. Simply just put your foot down and let the torque of the engine do the work.
He's not trying to make 0 - 60 times here, he's just representing what a torque from the engine can do.
Anoush13 2 weeks ago
@Anoush13 torque do the work. lol physics joke
pogonip8532853 2 weeks ago
Hold down your trip button , while holding it turn key to on position then wait for the fun, start car
iwanaGoFast2010 2 weeks ago
@BigGee84 1. Torque is one of the many factors of acceleration 2. Shifting at 4000rpm so that I am not relying on the peak HP to accelerate and am accurately displaying how low end tq can help you accelerate without the need of running the car to redline.
3. While this can often be said to be true this particular car had 3.73 gears installed.
nevermissclancom 3 weeks ago
Yeah I know, American V8s don't like to rev. You can say that from the way they scream until you shift to the next gear.
Dosalt 1 month ago
oh yeah!
Dotchetter 2 months ago
and thats why i love my 4cyclinder diesel 360 nm tork at 2500 rpm ;) 160 hp
nvtuning 2 months ago
@kevinp496691 a v8 has a much lower decibel rating than a v6. A v6 will be louder straight piped because it has a higher decibel rating but a v8 straight piped sounds deeper and louder because all the work going thru the cylinders is coming out as a big ass smoke cloud causing a deeper noise. Depending on the size of the pipes a 4 inch pipe will be louder because it has more space to go thru. A 3 inch pipe will be deeper because it takes more back pressure to get it out. Just to let u know a v8
theironman117 2 months ago
@theironman117 He wasn't talking about a v6. He said an i6. Big big big difference.
cstritz 2 weeks ago
bi-turbo a nice big 3.2 straight six.... good power good torque and it sounds better then the lazy V8's.
kevinp496691 2 months ago
460 ford 10:1 compression 610Ft/Lbs at 2500 475HP at 4500 i'd like to see a fuckin v-tec pull that kind of numbers with only an aluminum intake and a small cam
ford73broncoboy 2 months ago
Let's put it this way. A 2001 Honda civic regular generates 110 ft/lbs of torque. Times that by .85 and you get the average torque at the wheels. That's 93.5. An average v8's lug nuts require 100-135 ft/lbs of torque so they won't fall off. So to put it in retrospect, yes, a v8's lug nuts require more torque than a regular I4 Honda civic can generate.
theironman117 2 months ago
@Dreamevil2009 your gas mileage in that awd turbo 4 cylinder is like 20mph because its awd. 4 and 6 cylinders are for people who want to get the most out of their gas. 8 cylinders are for people who want to show off their engine and sound. Most v8 owners could care less about horsepower. Its a fuckin v8.... ANY v8 is going to sound nice and be fast, high 14's on the 1/4 is hella fast.... most v6 and I4 cars can't even make it to low 16's. you have to trick out a 4 cylinder to make it fast.
theironman117 2 months ago
@theironman117 agrreed i cant stand the people at my college that have brand new or new ish I4 that are turbo and thing there bad ass..well if i turbod my v6 it would have more hp and tq at the same psi then there little 4 banger and it pisses me off that there that ingornant.....i have a v6 mustang with just gears and it runs a very low 15 in the 1/2 mile and some guys brandddd new kia (2.4 turbo) runs just a little bit fast then me and hes f/i......sad sad sad
minicobra01 2 months ago
@SStarwind your 2.5 liter can do it faster because its lighter.... But can it make past 100mph? It would take a serious amount of torque and horsepower for a 2.5 liter to make it past 100mph.... and even then it would take like 20 seconds to even get to 100mph lol. 4, 5, and 6 cylinders are good for making 0-60 but when it comes to 0-100 or 0-100-0 or even the 1/4.... Forget it.
theironman117 2 months ago
@nitrousboy0311 dude, my lug nuts require more torque than your honda can generate....
theironman117 2 months ago
What is this thing you guys call "Torque"? My 95 honda does not have it.
nitrousboy0311 2 months ago
Jesus people. I knew this video would spawn arguments. And bring out all the immature people. I know a Turbo 4 can have more torque. There is still a bit of lag though. All this video was meant to do was show how instantaneous the tq is on a low powered V8. Yes a low powered V8. I know this isn't the fastest car in the world. hell it was only a mid 13 second car.
nevermissclancom 2 months ago 3
@nevermissclancom in the description, you talking ft-lbs or nm?
seannz100 1 month ago
@nevermissclancom 13s is fast for a daily driver.. what kinda car is this? theres not many cars under 280bhp that can do the qaurter in 13s...
SpeedDemons420 2 weeks ago
@SpeedDemons420 It is just an 01 Mustang GT. Granted 280bhp is only around 240whp. This car makes 268whp which is closer to 310bhp.
nevermissclancom 2 weeks ago
@SpeedDemons420 i consider 14s fast considering my car cost me 1000 bucks and barely makes 170 hp while maintaining a weight of 3500 lbs wet and can easily do 13s with an engine upgrade
uploaded113redone 1 week ago
@uploaded113redone what kinda car do you have? and do u mean 170whp? what car weighs 3500 ibs and has that low of power? I dont see a 170bhp car running 14s thats LT1 territory even 2600 ibs Integra GSRs with 170bhp run 15s
SpeedDemons420 1 week ago
My 2.5 liter can do that, and do it faster....
Quite a bit faster, actually.
Seriously, you don't need a V8 for mad torque.
SStarwind 2 months ago
my 355 chev makes 455hp peak at 5700 and 427tq.peak at 4800 videos of it on here sooo fun to drive
grizzskoalcope 2 months ago
Yeah my 2.5L is 350 hp and 385 tq and thats why i dont love v-8's
sgtjones 2 months ago