to those who shouting free Tibet sort your own shits out before get involved in other peoples business !half these people never ever been to Tibet, know fuck all about Tibet history and most of all, they just jealous and worried that China is soon getting better than their own countries, too much brainwashed in the west and people need to start thinking about things properly with their own brains instead of using their asses to think!!!
why would you spend millions ofdollars taking a torch around when you could donate that money to those african bois? lol w/e dumbass americans making dumbass moves
China has lived peacefully within its borders since 1949 and has lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty. In the same period, the US and its 'allies' have been invading, terrorising and raping other countries. A powerful China is a cause of great hope for all humankind. Long live PRC!
haha ,no more olympic for china, chinese are brutal and barbaric to all living creatures. chinese is not dragon,chinese are evils slave.Chinese do evil things like making faulty tires,toxic products,killed Tibet and Vietnamese. chinese eating baby and animals penis just for enhance sex life
freedom is such a pretty word. give a child full freedom and watch him hurt himself. china is changing and changing fast, just like an adolescent (and how reckless adolescents can be). let china find its own ideals and make its own mistakes on its way. will china listen to what is imposed by the west whose words and actions stanched of hypocrisy?
There's nothing east or west abt individual freedom. lots of people in 'east' also treasure their freedom. what u call west hypocricy is basically failure of the west to talk in one voice like the brainwashed masses of students.
you will find surprisingly as much individual freedoms in china as singapore. however if you criticize the government, well..... in singapore, the govt. can charge you under Internal Security Act and imprison you without trial. western hypocrisy- human right- torture of prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison. democracy - eviction of natives from chagos island. genocide - natives' plight in N america and australia. arms sale etc etc.
Why r u telling abt western hypocricy (present & distant past) to an easterner? by using words like 'western hypocricy' u r just trying to group them into a convenient basket.western societies r very diverse & people r free to follow their path.abt their imperialism, r u lamenting the fact that they beat china to it? isn't Yuan a chinese empire according to u that tried to rule the world & caused immense death and destruction :) ?
Yuan is mongolian when it comes to denying imperialism but the same becomes chinese when it comes to claiming that tibet was part of china.check out the pro CCP videos on the net.
The point is, media is free, so there is room for media that is 'biased' on all sides. is it so in china?
i support ur love for ur motherland. but pls differentiate between china and ccp. china is immortal, ccp is not.
I agree, but what are the terms of this co existence? Authoritative rule of one party or a wide enough circle that includes everyone? Tibetans should get to decide whats best for them and not CCP. Even dalai lama does not want independence, but they want to preserve their way of life and thinking. aren't we minorities in our adopted countries? atleast we should realize the importance of freedom and protection of minority rights.
After biased education, ill informed, limited freedom and strict control, then you face the real world, open u door, living in the west, and most importantly, looking the difference between China and Western world, man, u r immunized, no lie can decieve u anymonre!
For the lessons of lie, u r just primary stage in front of Chinese, they are postgraduates.
a small clue for u,
lies are most effective when tast sweet, not when forced.
And the solution is for 1.3 billion chinese to immigrate to the west?
if people are happy with lies, i have no issue, let them follow religion for example :) but the tibetans are not happy are they? and who's the govt to control what lies are told? why not falun gong allowed to push their lies? why the monopoly, why the bullying? and what abt the ppl who die or disappear? they get no chance at immigrating and playing these fake philosophy games.
My point is why only the CCP gets a chance at lying? let all get a chance. let all try to tell sweet lies to whoever they want. u live in a free country, so i hope u realize the maning of freedom - freedom is not truth, nobody's under that delusion. but freedom is right to pursue the truth if u care.
The same type as the CCP. A group of people who have their own set of beliefs. Thanksfully, the falun gong DO NOT force their set of beliefs on others. So they are a lesser kind of evil. open ur eyes.
Shame on you for losing to Japan so terribly. Shame on you for tianenmen and for cultural revolution and for the death and destruction. shame on you for keeping a 6 yr old boy under brainwashed detention. u calling a lie does not make it a lie, this is not CCTV this is internet. stick to facts.
ur list is too small. read ur history books see how many tougher trials that China had walked through for 5000 yrs. even just read the last 150yrs see how world strongest powers together to crashdown China and how we fight until our blood shed like river but never give up, until they moved their bums out of China.
the current difficulties to u is horrific, but not for a great nation of 5000 yrs. look, China is still rising.
Dear Thendaryman, i'm happy to see chinese pulling millions out of poverty and i'd like all the poor countries to do the same. we marvel at chinas achievements. however as a liberal, i hate to see chinese brainwashing of kids, its controlled media, reeducation centres, denial of freedom to its citizens, its strong support to all the inhuman regimes like north korea, sudan, burma, zimbabwe, iran, pakistan etc. my comments on the post are to do with these and i wish china or chinese no ill.
my own country has suffered at the hands of foreigners for over a thousand years, but that does not mean i have to be paranoid of them or not support individual rights. CCP wants u to do that, and u r doing it.
How is it the same as not being able to protest and vote and speak openly and publish newspapers and travel freely and protect ones culture? Kashmiris can do all that u moron. if u don't understand an issue, keep the fcuk up. remember tianenmen.
yes...we Chinese are communists, so what, we live longer than Indians, we eat better than Indians, we are richer than Indians, so what, who care Indians?
We KNOW u eat better than us :) How the fcik is this relevant here? scores of countries can say the same abt china, so what? and such a great country is pussy enuf to be scared of a 6 yr old panchen lama and mae him disappear for so long... shame on u pussies.
A common misconception is: "Tibet is a country occupied by China". The historical facts are: "No nation has ever publicly accepted Tibet as an independent state". ("The Making of Modern Tibet", A. Tom Grunfeld, page 258.) "Not a single nation, including India, has extended recognition to the 'government in exile' of the Dalai Lama in the more than two decades of its existence". (ibid., p. 259.)Grunfeld pointed out that America's policy toward Tibet is one of self-contradiction:
"While officially recognizing Tibet as part of China, the U.S. Congress and White House unofficially encourage the campaign for independence." ("Time to Reassess Tibet Policy", Foreign Policy in Focus)In line with this contradiction of choosing to ignore official world status--including our own official stand --our mainstream presses continually falsely report Tibet as "an occupied country". Our Congress continually funds the pro-Tibet-independence organizations.(Ewing, 2001)
Who is DALAI LAMA? The master of slaves. He put on a pathetic mask, so you westerns believe him and trust him and ignore the truth. U think Chinese lies, but the fact is your media and govertment fake Chinese history and news! The best evidence the Olympiad Games! Look, use your own eyes to see what is happeing! Your medias lie lie lie~~~even so many Chinese tell you our real thoughts, you choose to ignore or assumed we are brainwashed, now who is the real blind one?
To those who no matter foreigners or people used to be our familiy members, anyone intend to split China, please remember, the people you want to pull down is not Chinese Government, but 56 Chinese nations, 1.3 billion people with one heart! Even though we complain our lives, suffering pressures, taking less human rights, we never give up our hopes! We love our motherland, we love China! We never allow you to split our family!
Very soon, Chinese Communists SPAMMERS will start commenting here, and Chinese Communists HACKERS will delete pro Tibet or human rights comments on this webpage.
For a better Tibet, China need to leave Tibet, Tibet belongs to Tibetans. It seems China and their brainwashed don't realize that people in the world support Free Tibet. The more they claim Tibet is part of China, the more people in the world understant that China regime is a dictator regime! The history of the world have proved that: there is no dictator regime is last forever!
Beside demonstration, what else can these people do? You can not feed your people and build a nation by demonstration. For a better Tibet, you need to find a way to live peacefully with Chinese. Otherwise, your dream is doomed.
This torch is for everyone but not the tibetan, if tibetan are strong they should do something like taiwan and remember this is for olympic not for tibetan
tibetan if you can go home do something.... if this the fact tibetan are hopeless nothing but the toy for the CIA... so sad
china is one party country, is power concentrated, they a fraid one day china become too powerful , will revenge what western did to china 100 years ago, because they think chinese still remember that. unfortunately, most chinese like western Before this incidence, but after that, yes chinese will remember what they did to chinese, and know only own goverment can protect own people.
Why= Western got too much money and have nothing to do but find pick other's pain as funny, their goverment inside afraid of communist china, their media is totaly baised against china,
Non Western= find tortch is a quite a delightmetn for their life, and their goverment was in good relationship with china, so the media is unbiased or even favored
I'm sure it is welcomed by the Indian people. Obviously, it made Tibetan Exile very sad, as their dreams of back to China to become slave owners to govern Chinese Tibetans are destroyed. Ha!
As an Indian I can tell you most of us are ashamed of the torch. India and Indians do not support free tibet, but we absolutely abhor the human rights record, the cultural destruction and the brainwashing of the ppl by the inhuman CCP. Where's panchen lama dude? ask that to ur CCP before making assumptions abt us free Indians. We would.
Shame on Indian govt for not allowing even peaceful protests at the site. everyone's scared of a shameless bully. As we say in India - Even God is afarid of a nakd person. But Indian people love and support Tibetans and their right to their culture. Power to the oppressed.
to those who shouting free Tibet sort your own shits out before get involved in other peoples business !half these people never ever been to Tibet, know fuck all about Tibet history and most of all, they just jealous and worried that China is soon getting better than their own countries, too much brainwashed in the west and people need to start thinking about things properly with their own brains instead of using their asses to think!!!
1daywewillflyaway 1 year ago
india is such a exteremist state that i will never even think 2 visit india
Humayun93 2 years ago
China..get the fuk outta here..
TIBET BELONGS TO TIBETANS...
LET TIBET LIVE THEIR OWN LIFE>>...
FUKING CCP
loveudrogba 3 years ago
@loveudrogba Britain..get the fuk outta here..
IRELAND BELONGS TO THEIR PEOPLE
LET IRELAND LIVE THEIR OWN LIFE>>...
FUKING ASSHOLES
Xx1RuinzxX 1 year ago
why would you spend millions ofdollars taking a torch around when you could donate that money to those african bois? lol w/e dumbass americans making dumbass moves
GCowner 3 years ago
China has lived peacefully within its borders since 1949 and has lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty. In the same period, the US and its 'allies' have been invading, terrorising and raping other countries. A powerful China is a cause of great hope for all humankind. Long live PRC!
redword2007 3 years ago 4
BBC = British Bullshit Channel
ukmhamdan 3 years ago
EVERY BODY HATE CHINA
CHINA REPRESENT FASCIST AND EVIL
haha ,no more olympic for china, chinese are brutal and barbaric to all living creatures. chinese is not dragon,chinese are evils slave.Chinese do evil things like making faulty tires,toxic products,killed Tibet and Vietnamese. chinese eating baby and animals penis just for enhance sex life
MikeSilk007 3 years ago
Madsam02 3 years ago
There's nothing east or west abt individual freedom. lots of people in 'east' also treasure their freedom. what u call west hypocricy is basically failure of the west to talk in one voice like the brainwashed masses of students.
findsachin 3 years ago
Madsam02 3 years ago
How is comparison with singapore relevant here???
Why r u telling abt western hypocricy (present & distant past) to an easterner? by using words like 'western hypocricy' u r just trying to group them into a convenient basket.western societies r very diverse & people r free to follow their path.abt their imperialism, r u lamenting the fact that they beat china to it? isn't Yuan a chinese empire according to u that tried to rule the world & caused immense death and destruction :) ?
findsachin 3 years ago
yuan is a mongol dynasty. : )
living here in the west,
i enjoyed immense freedom,
that i cannot deny,
just irk me me how the medias
sanctimoniously attack china all
the time. very selectively, too,
with their human rights and freedom.
Madsam02 3 years ago
Yuan is mongolian when it comes to denying imperialism but the same becomes chinese when it comes to claiming that tibet was part of china.check out the pro CCP videos on the net.
The point is, media is free, so there is room for media that is 'biased' on all sides. is it so in china?
i support ur love for ur motherland. but pls differentiate between china and ccp. china is immortal, ccp is not.
findsachin 3 years ago
in a sense, china inherited tibet from
mongol invasion. remember china was
the victim of the imperialism.
all that are history, today they should put
it all aside and live with each other.
i am no fan of the ccp either.
Madsam02 3 years ago
I agree, but what are the terms of this co existence? Authoritative rule of one party or a wide enough circle that includes everyone? Tibetans should get to decide whats best for them and not CCP. Even dalai lama does not want independence, but they want to preserve their way of life and thinking. aren't we minorities in our adopted countries? atleast we should realize the importance of freedom and protection of minority rights.
findsachin 3 years ago
eviction of natives from chagos islands:
if you try to find any news about it on CNN archive online, you get nothing. This is what they pretend to be objective and independent media.
edvan88 3 years ago
Actually I like being brainwashed
After biased education, ill informed, limited freedom and strict control, then you face the real world, open u door, living in the west, and most importantly, looking the difference between China and Western world, man, u r immunized, no lie can decieve u anymonre!
For the lessons of lie, u r just primary stage in front of Chinese, they are postgraduates.
a small clue for u,
lies are most effective when tast sweet, not when forced.
Thendaryman 3 years ago
And the solution is for 1.3 billion chinese to immigrate to the west?
if people are happy with lies, i have no issue, let them follow religion for example :) but the tibetans are not happy are they? and who's the govt to control what lies are told? why not falun gong allowed to push their lies? why the monopoly, why the bullying? and what abt the ppl who die or disappear? they get no chance at immigrating and playing these fake philosophy games.
findsachin 3 years ago
My point is why only the CCP gets a chance at lying? let all get a chance. let all try to tell sweet lies to whoever they want. u live in a free country, so i hope u realize the maning of freedom - freedom is not truth, nobody's under that delusion. but freedom is right to pursue the truth if u care.
how abt post graduating in freedom?
findsachin 3 years ago
hey guy
who is falun gong, what type of evil ?
ukmhamdan 3 years ago
The same type as the CCP. A group of people who have their own set of beliefs. Thanksfully, the falun gong DO NOT force their set of beliefs on others. So they are a lesser kind of evil. open ur eyes.
findsachin 3 years ago
what a shame haw ugly
Destinationhahaha 3 years ago
lie
or, little reason, India shame for the lose of the war in 1969 in trying to take Chinese territory.
whu cann't u be a little bit generous?
Thendaryman 3 years ago
Shame on you for losing to Japan so terribly. Shame on you for tianenmen and for cultural revolution and for the death and destruction. shame on you for keeping a 6 yr old boy under brainwashed detention. u calling a lie does not make it a lie, this is not CCTV this is internet. stick to facts.
findsachin 3 years ago
to findsachin
ur stupid anger take more of my sympathy. if u thinks lies are so valuable to u, hug them.
Thendaryman 3 years ago
remember tiananmen, its not a lie i hope in ur little red book. nothing is black and white, thats why individual matters.
findsachin 3 years ago
to findsachin
Tiananmen, Japs, cultural revolution...
ur list is too small. read ur history books see how many tougher trials that China had walked through for 5000 yrs. even just read the last 150yrs see how world strongest powers together to crashdown China and how we fight until our blood shed like river but never give up, until they moved their bums out of China.
the current difficulties to u is horrific, but not for a great nation of 5000 yrs. look, China is still rising.
Thendaryman 3 years ago
Dear Thendaryman, i'm happy to see chinese pulling millions out of poverty and i'd like all the poor countries to do the same. we marvel at chinas achievements. however as a liberal, i hate to see chinese brainwashing of kids, its controlled media, reeducation centres, denial of freedom to its citizens, its strong support to all the inhuman regimes like north korea, sudan, burma, zimbabwe, iran, pakistan etc. my comments on the post are to do with these and i wish china or chinese no ill.
findsachin 3 years ago
my own country has suffered at the hands of foreigners for over a thousand years, but that does not mean i have to be paranoid of them or not support individual rights. CCP wants u to do that, and u r doing it.
findsachin 3 years ago
why fucking indain dont leave kashmir for pakistan? hahaha
niban1219 3 years ago
How is it the same as not being able to protest and vote and speak openly and publish newspapers and travel freely and protect ones culture? Kashmiris can do all that u moron. if u don't understand an issue, keep the fcuk up. remember tianenmen.
findsachin 3 years ago
yes...we Chinese are communists, so what, we live longer than Indians, we eat better than Indians, we are richer than Indians, so what, who care Indians?
cntriones 3 years ago 2
We KNOW u eat better than us :) How the fcik is this relevant here? scores of countries can say the same abt china, so what? and such a great country is pussy enuf to be scared of a 6 yr old panchen lama and mae him disappear for so long... shame on u pussies.
findsachin 3 years ago
cntriones, please do not provoke unnecessary arguments here. Thanks.
zhanginca 3 years ago
who cares the curry smell indians, india is worse than China in every aspect
cntriones 3 years ago
Great,torch keeps going, and protestors have a place(althought pretty far from torch) to yell.That'll make everyone happy. Well done, India.
maiermiao 3 years ago
free hawaii!!!!!!!!
3638189 3 years ago
Good! Bark louder, make more trouble, or as Tsewang Rigzin said, "launch suicide attacks". We Chinese are so eagerly waiting for them.
xcydnas 3 years ago
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A common misconception is: "Tibet is a country occupied by China". The historical facts are: "No nation has ever publicly accepted Tibet as an independent state". ("The Making of Modern Tibet", A. Tom Grunfeld, page 258.) "Not a single nation, including India, has extended recognition to the 'government in exile' of the Dalai Lama in the more than two decades of its existence". (ibid., p. 259.)Grunfeld pointed out that America's policy toward Tibet is one of self-contradiction:
aka83515 3 years ago
"While officially recognizing Tibet as part of China, the U.S. Congress and White House unofficially encourage the campaign for independence." ("Time to Reassess Tibet Policy", Foreign Policy in Focus)In line with this contradiction of choosing to ignore official world status--including our own official stand --our mainstream presses continually falsely report Tibet as "an occupied country". Our Congress continually funds the pro-Tibet-independence organizations.(Ewing, 2001)
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Who is DALAI LAMA? The master of slaves. He put on a pathetic mask, so you westerns believe him and trust him and ignore the truth. U think Chinese lies, but the fact is your media and govertment fake Chinese history and news! The best evidence the Olympiad Games! Look, use your own eyes to see what is happeing! Your medias lie lie lie~~~even so many Chinese tell you our real thoughts, you choose to ignore or assumed we are brainwashed, now who is the real blind one?
aka83515 3 years ago
To those who no matter foreigners or people used to be our familiy members, anyone intend to split China, please remember, the people you want to pull down is not Chinese Government, but 56 Chinese nations, 1.3 billion people with one heart! Even though we complain our lives, suffering pressures, taking less human rights, we never give up our hopes! We love our motherland, we love China! We never allow you to split our family!
aka83515 3 years ago 2
Very soon, Chinese Communists SPAMMERS will start commenting here, and Chinese Communists HACKERS will delete pro Tibet or human rights comments on this webpage.
VietBoatPeople 3 years ago
For a better Tibet, China need to leave Tibet, Tibet belongs to Tibetans. It seems China and their brainwashed don't realize that people in the world support Free Tibet. The more they claim Tibet is part of China, the more people in the world understant that China regime is a dictator regime! The history of the world have proved that: there is no dictator regime is last forever!
FREE TIBET!!! FREE TIBET!!!
VietBoatPeople 3 years ago
Beside demonstration, what else can these people do? You can not feed your people and build a nation by demonstration. For a better Tibet, you need to find a way to live peacefully with Chinese. Otherwise, your dream is doomed.
pharmerssf 3 years ago 2
This torch is for everyone but not the tibetan, if tibetan are strong they should do something like taiwan and remember this is for olympic not for tibetan
tibetan if you can go home do something.... if this the fact tibetan are hopeless nothing but the toy for the CIA... so sad
tibetan wake up... go to school please
sopben0808 3 years ago
Remember, Indian, Pakistan and Bangdash?
hundred years ago, there is a indian emperir which include indian , pakistan and Bangdash. how this huge emperior seperated?
thanks to British, they are good at it.
but, one trick can not success twice
tibetan wonbe seperated from china.
just watch, at the same time, one year later,
i can speak the same word.
this only on incidence, an ant can not change the path of elephant!
asdcpo 3 years ago 2
Is that what they teach in the mind control camps these days?
findsachin 3 years ago
why western afraid of china?
china is one party country, is power concentrated, they a fraid one day china become too powerful , will revenge what western did to china 100 years ago, because they think chinese still remember that. unfortunately, most chinese like western Before this incidence, but after that, yes chinese will remember what they did to chinese, and know only own goverment can protect own people.
what western try to do , have the opposite effect
asdcpo 3 years ago
Protest: London, Paris, Los angles
Peaceful: argentina,russian, oman,dalessalam
why?
Protest= Western
Peaceful=Non Werstern
Why= Western got too much money and have nothing to do but find pick other's pain as funny, their goverment inside afraid of communist china, their media is totaly baised against china,
Non Western= find tortch is a quite a delightmetn for their life, and their goverment was in good relationship with china, so the media is unbiased or even favored
asdcpo 3 years ago
I'm sure it is welcomed by the Indian people. Obviously, it made Tibetan Exile very sad, as their dreams of back to China to become slave owners to govern Chinese Tibetans are destroyed. Ha!
TibetPartOfChina08 3 years ago
As an Indian I can tell you most of us are ashamed of the torch. India and Indians do not support free tibet, but we absolutely abhor the human rights record, the cultural destruction and the brainwashing of the ppl by the inhuman CCP. Where's panchen lama dude? ask that to ur CCP before making assumptions abt us free Indians. We would.
findsachin 3 years ago
like we care how indian thinks...
wellyme2002 3 years ago
Atleast we THINK and not read CCP manifestos for ideas.
findsachin 3 years ago
OK, good for you.
Btw, what does "manifestos" mean?
wellyme2002 3 years ago 2
Indian govern taugth the westeners a lesson on how to respect Plympic torch. Good job!
whoreallycarestibet 3 years ago
Shame on Indian govt for not allowing even peaceful protests at the site. everyone's scared of a shameless bully. As we say in India - Even God is afarid of a nakd person. But Indian people love and support Tibetans and their right to their culture. Power to the oppressed.
findsachin 3 years ago
This torch relay is for what???? Indian people or for 16000 security officers? Nobody was there to cheer up. what a shame on CCP!
tsamzen 3 years ago