650 horsepower and a top speed of +200 mph is nice and all, but the hp was never the problem. why didnt ford fix its handling and unbalanced weight instead? you cant just cover up the bad with and an extra 100 horsepower
I am a Camaro fan but I am loving this competition. I pre-ordered my ZR1, and own a 2010 SS Camaro. Camaro is on top right now, mustang will take over in 2013, then who knows what but the Camaro is cheap. You can't beat 54k for all that power. If we were comparing muscle cars the 2012 Corvette ZR1 smokes all of these!
@AdverbAdjective-In latest MotorTrend, ZL1 beat Boss 302 LS by 2.45 secs around a track. Driver couldn't cut curbs w/ Boss because live-axle kept skipping/sliding out! Also, ZL1 posted 7.41 at Nurburgring. Ford tested '13 GT500 at "ring" but never released a time. If GT500 surpassed ZL1, I think Ford would've released time by now. If read between the lines, ZL1 likely quicker around a track than GT500. That said, Mustang will have bragging rights at the strip. At least, for coming model year.
This things looks heavier than any older models Mustang and it barely touches 200 but the ZR1 does 205 or more without the limiter and 200 mph on a car that 650hp is quite embarrassing the new 530 GTRhp does more than 200 as well without the limiter.
@BoredomKills25 even without the limiter , no GTR can do 200mph. it's to slow and it's Japanese. it takes 400,000$ to make a car go 202mph.(lfa) #TeamUSA.
@Bravo12RX not everything resumes to max speed....The GTR handles like a dream compared to the GT500, but i really like the GT500, its such a cool car to have and drive, the sound of the engine is just amazing.
@darkdawn01 i rather take the american car. gtrs are too slow. and the gt500 could trap more less the same as the zr1 as it's numbers are bigger/ the same.
It is actually only slightly heavier than previous models despite a larger engine, blower, and intercooler due to a carbon fiber drive shaft. The ZR1 has similar horsepower but weighs 500 pounds less, costs $40,000 more and only has a top speed 3 MPH higher. No Stock GTR has broken 200 MPH, the fastest recorded was 198MPH and that hasn't changed with the 2013...and it is $40,000 more as well.
Yes I was talking about the ZR1 as in Corvette not the ZL1 Camaro since it was in reply to boredom killer mentioning it as car that could do over 200MPH. The ZL1 can't do 200MPH because it is running a 3.73 rear end and weighs almost 400 pounds more than the 2013 GT500 with a similar drag coefficient. The main reason the GT500 can go faster than 200 MPH this year other than some minor aerodynamic modifications is Ford dropped the gearing from 3.73 to 3.31 while adding 100HP.
Don't dis the camaro guys I mean I've been around since I was born and I love them but the 2013 shelby gt500 is pretty sexy,and if gets near 200mph the cpu will probably shut it down or the motor will blow look at the svt cobra for example you redline it at top speed for a few secs n the motor blows,I had that happen to my friends dad
I have a 2011 GT500 and I've hit 150 MPH with 3.73 gears with plenty of room to spare. I don't have the governor removed but I know some one who has and hit 180. Add 100 HP and lower gearing (which increases the top speed but slows acceleration) and with the aerodynamic modifications 200 MPH is easy in this car and no the engine isn't going to blow. The GT500 is using pretty much the same engine found in the Ford GT (with a dry sump) which has no problem doing 200MPH +.
@ezarethe cool story bro jk lol but I have nothing against the mustang I was just sayin that I think the camaro zl1 would have a chance against it and b4 anyone says no think about it after the mustang hits i dunno around 170mph it probably takes a while to get to 200 correct me if im wrong
Every car accelerates slower the closer you get to their top speed. Even the Veyron takes 43 seconds to hit 250. I'm only saying that old video of the guy blowing his engine was in a '99 Cobra that comes stock with 320 horsepower and he was supposedly boosted to 600HP and was likely running way too much compression and redlining, one detonation at that RPM and your motor is gone.The GT500 isn't running nearly as much boost and has a far better engine than that old iron 32v 4.6.
I am here because bunch of shitstang fan boys go to camaro videos!!!...so i dont care this car is gay and stupid and super gay there i am putting myself to this shitstang owners level...
Honestly, ever since Nissan came out with that new GTR, the power of these pony cars just isn't impressive anymore. The ugly GTR will blow the Mustang and the Corvette away, whether it's a 1/4 mile or a track. Actually, you need a supercar to outrun the Nissan. So if your sitting at the lights in your Stang or Z06 or whatever and some punk pulls up beside you in a V6 GTR, your toast before the race has even began. Ford and Chev need to make a car that can compete with the GTR, imo!
@puffrooster My guess is some punk isnt going to be driving a 98000 dollar car!! If you have a gt 500 or a Zl1 you have 40000 left over for bolt ons. The GTR is a strong runner but how many people can drop 98k on a car most people dont have enough for the Zl1 or gt500!!! I'll take a SS or 5.0 and bolt parts on when I get some extra cash!!
@gmrtg1414 Where I live, there are lots of punks driving IS-F's, GTR's, GT's, SS's and I even spotted a couple of Asian teenagers in a Lambo and a Ferrari; I'm guessing they are, spoiled rotten, dot-com millionaires, future hockey players (who were recently scouted) or crack dealers (easy to spot because they have 22" wheels on their Escalades and/or BMW's). After market stuff works great if it's installed properly but us old guys don't have time for that; we just upgrade and get it over with...
The engine inside this GT500 is enormous. According to Mustang 5.0 magazine, the 5.8 has a 623 lb shipping weight. The 7.0 from the Corvette Z06 weighs just 440 lbs. Big-ass engine but it's worth it.
@AdverbAdjective Curious if you know what front to rear weight distribution is? Tell me the front end weight of all 3 cars you mentioned. Bet you cant even figure that out!
Zl1 fabois keep telling themselves that the magnetic shit in the zl1 is enough to bend the laws of physics. no gm nutswiggers it's really not, look at the V.I.R track times and you'll see that the 2011 gt500 is wayyy faster than the cts-v without the new handling improvements the 2013 will have. Not to mention the extra 100 hp. It beat the audi R8 v10 for gods sake.
The Boss will outhandle this car easily. The ZL1 laid waste to the Boss in the latest Motor Trend magazine. I would give the advantage to the GT500 straight line performance over the ZL1 and certainly give the ZL1 the edge at everything else. Too much nose weight and skinny little tires will be the GT500s downfall just like always.
@mpfsupra: Are you serious? The Mustang GT 5.0 is quicker than a Camaro SS in a straight line and around a track, even though the GT 5.0 has slightly less HP than the SS. IRS is giving no performance advantage over the mustangs.
Ford : For Only Real Drivers! Forget that old acronym. The only American car company that didn't need a bail out. Keep up the good work Ford and the SVT department. Bye bye Chrysler's SRT.
@IceColdBeerPlease where's the fun in owning a car that's punching out 650 horsies when you can't do a burnout off the line? XD... but in all seriousness. I'd rather we work on improving our vehicles handling abilities so it's more than just a "drag car". Love Mustangs, but most European and Japanese cars would kill this thing at the turns.
It's just friendly competition between the ZL1 and the GT500, not like it's a life or death situation. Besides, most of you probably can't afford either one, so just enjoy the fact that this competition is here.
Ford always does this to me! They produce an epic 302 boss one year and make me want it, then the next year come out with a 200mph GT500 and make me reconsider. Lol. I love this dilemma. Go MUSTANG!!!
@GJJTexas I'm not worried at all, the 2011 gt500 beats the cts-v in every track tested. check out the v.i.r lap times, then add 100 hp and better handling.
@camouflagecamaro99 your right though hot rod magazine which is a gm bias rag dyno'd the 13 gt500 at 7000 rpm their computer showed 670hp! They didn't say if it was rwhp or crank but either way that's more than ford claims
If this mustang is going to do 200 mph, damn! How many people believe that if Ford brought back the Ford GT with this beast of an engine, and some carbon brakes, that it would rape the ZR1 and splooge on it's carbon fiber hood? I do, but i can only speak for myself.
@hugosuave1 Ford Racing offers a Pulley & Tune for the Ford GT that adds a hundred horsepower and is available for purchase at your local Ford dealer, and you're right it'll walk a ZO6 like it's down 2 cylinders.
@1vdn992 Maybe a GT with that mod can hang with a ZR1. Dont get me wrong I love the GT but for the money they should be able to crush a Z06 and they simply dont.
@OgleTorp Most reviewers report that Vettes and GT-Rs have the ride of a Cement Mixer, and you figure it's ok to spend 50% more on a Vette to beat a Mustang, but it's not ok to spend 50% more on a FGT to beat a Vette, sounds to me like you're talking out both sides of your mouth.
@1vdn992 Last I checked the ZR1 is cheaper than a GTs price tag of 6 years ago. Pay more money for a GT and still lose or pay 50k for a GT500 and get killed in every segment weather it be at the hand of a base C6 or a ZR1. I hope Motor Trend does another test like they did when the ZO6 and GT500KR came out. Please try not to avoid the question like you always do and tell me a single aspect the mustang won.
@OgleTorp The only thing the Vette kills is your bank account because of the poor resale value they bring, same can't be said for the FGT. There's a reason market value is much greater for the GT Ford, i feel sorry for you if you can't figure that out. The Ford GT, as well as being more colletible, is the ultimate tuner car, OEM is for people with no mechanical ability to brag about a little extra performance. New ZR1/ZO6s haven't devalued the GT at all, smart guys prefer exotics.
@1vdn992 Way to avoid the question like always. The answer is NONE. Also funny how you say the GTR and Vette ride like cement trucks. Im sure by your extensive time behind the wheel of a Ford GT you would know that they ride like you are on a cloud of air.
@1vdn992 And by the way the ultimate tuner car is the Dodge Viper. They are far more available and 500+ cubic inch engines make more hp without having power adders than a stock GT with a compressor. Plenty of videos of twin turbo vipers running 7 or 8 second quarters on here. GT isnt even close to that.
@OgleTorp A Ford GT holds the world record in the standing mile for cars with a license plate, stereo, air conditioning and so forth, 267 mph, and that was on a hot and humid day into an 18 mph headwind, and where's the Viper, i'll tell you, eatin some high speed dust,
@1vdn992 True, now show me a GT that runs under ten in the quarter. There are also way more mods out there for a viper plus there is much more potential out of a v10 viper engine than the GTs small v8. 500-550hp with a supercharger is nothing special stock. ZO6 has over 500hp N.A and the viper has over 600. Both are cheaper and more available too.
if they didnt fix the traction/torque problems imma be ticked. if launching the 2013 is as hard as the 2011-12 models then evn 650 hp will only get you a 0-60 of like 3.9
Solid axles handle power better than irs u fools.. irs will break if they didn't have torque management in first, and second gear. Drag cars have solid axles with well over 1000 hp
@santiagomel00 better in a straight line but not so great in the corners. for me i want something that will take any kind of punishment from straights to corners but i will say this this car is a monster by the figures depending on how pricing goes the zr1 might have competition when it comes to budget 600+ hp cars.
@santiagomel00 Nobody gives the fuck about the power you assclown...the point is it doesn't handle around a track worth the fuck compared to a car with IRS.
For all of you idiots out there, soild axle's are better for putting down power. The fastest IRS car in the world runs in the 7's. The fastest drag cars are all solid axle. The s197 chassis gas been as fast as high six second quarters and the 5th gen camaro just ran its first 8 sec quarter not too long ago.
Fucking love this, looks like Ford Finally did something worth while with the GT500. Finally some real competition between the big three above the Camaro, Challenger, and 5.0 Stang. Can't wait to see if this one can not make a fool out of itself on the track like previous models.
look at the front of the car see that big catchers mitt not aerodynamic enough for 200 mph and people saying any more than 200 would b e crazy ford even said that the suspension and frame are built for 200mph or less not more and it is not race ready off the showroom floor the "crap" CAMARO ZL1 is race ready and is cheaper by at least $4000 or more and proven on the nurbhuring :) ps i own a mustang
@morg405 how do you know that it cost atleast $4000 or more if they havent even told anyone how much its going to cost,and im preaty sure it is race ready becuse they were testing it at nurburgring track and got 7 sec less than the camaro.
@GhostFaceKilllah when did they test it and its not always what you see is what you get they put cooling systems on for stuff like the diff. and stuff like that and why are we comparing a 2012 vehicle with time to improve to a 2013 vehicle that will gett no more power boosts in the future :) like i said i own a mustang so im not biased
@morg405 Dude the '13 GT500 offers an engine oil cooler, tranny cooler and rear diff cooler, not to mention torsen rear diff, fully adjustable suspension, launch control that can be tuned to your liking, Recaro racing seats. Ford has had test mules of this car on the Nurburgring for quite some time. Do more research please.
@morg405 i never seem a camaro be cheaper than a mustang most of the time even now a mustang gt is fastest & cheaper than the camaro SS a boss mustang is about the seem price of a full loaded camaro and the shelby goes about the seem of the boss laguna seca so i think the ZL-1 will be more priced than shelbys & i hope it does as good as the boss laguna seca at the track, or will looks very bad!
@gerrits96 they fixed the traction issues by putting the boss 302 suspension on it and pirellis... And the 302 boss is hitting the high 180s for a topspeed so this should hit 200
Whats wrong with these ppl... thats too much hp... soon our daily driver will have over a 1000 HP and supercars will have over 5000 HP... give ten or 15 years and see yourself!!!
I would like to see a lateral g comparison of the shelby gt 500, boss, camaro zl1, corvette zr1 because if these muscle cars are able to corner with more lateral g then the zr1 then the slight straight line speed advantage the vette has wont matter because they will able to get higher cornering speeds to carry on the straights... on the street straight line speed wont matter either because theres nowhere to go for it to matter so id take a more practical muscle car :P.. new mustangs look good :)
I'm a little skeptical. Hennessey supercharged a Boss 302 and got 650 HP. The Boss is lighter than the GT500 btw. The blown 302 got an 11.9 quarter mile. If this heavier GT500 also has 650 HP then I think it will be slower. According to GM, the ZL1 runs 12 flat. Not saying this car sucks but unless the 2013 GT500 is underrated then the ZL1 is not even close to losing. And that's if it really includes the LSA when it's released. If Chevy answers back with the LS9 then it's over.
@elr456 If you noticed Hennessey didn't launch the blown Boss hard and then didn't power shift either, that's why the 11.9. Here's a stock Boss with just DRs stopping the lights in 11.72s,
watch?v=VLmXeUflf4I
and this car doesn't have TracKey or the baffles removed like this car,
Um... guys, if ya look @da facts...MOTORTREND placed the BOSS 302 AHEAD of the VETTE Z06/07. So I'm sure, it's safe to say, the boss is better than the GS VETTE.
“Of special note is the 2.66 1st gear that, with the 3.31 final drive, will get the GT500 to about 62 mph at 7000 rpm. So a dramatic 0–60 improvement is expected, and combined with an extra 100 horsepower the quarter-mile time could likely drop by a half second.”
2013 Ford Mustang: Even the taillights are cool Our collective crush on the 2013 Ford Mustang mostly centers around Ford being smart enough to not screw with already outstanding product. With the exception of the gargantuan power boost for the 2013 Shelby GT500, most of the changes are minor, like these killer taillights.
Can we obsess over these taillights for a minute? Many carryover design cues end up looking cartoonish over time, but the
650 horsepower and a top speed of +200 mph is nice and all, but the hp was never the problem. why didnt ford fix its handling and unbalanced weight instead? you cant just cover up the bad with and an extra 100 horsepower
mtndewman1022 6 days ago
@mtndewman1022 * they just did...
DREWTampa1 5 days ago
@DREWTampa1 hahahahahahahah i lol'd
Karpinski29 3 days ago
Everyone here has a small penis
kevintran41791 1 week ago
@kevintran41791 why the fuck did you post this then?
Super79CamaroZ28 5 days ago
I love those taillights.
cmaszerowski 1 week ago
Whats nicer, this or Saleen S281 E?
Mishomtp 1 week ago
@evepxpx u were able to buy a zl1 for 54k? Thats pretty cheap ive heard that dealerships werent taking leas than 60 for them
dtdeb99 2 weeks ago
Man....Mustangs keep getting better and better every year, especially from the Shelby guys. Great stuff!
MrCleanPolo 2 weeks ago
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I am a Camaro fan but I am loving this competition. I pre-ordered my ZR1, and own a 2010 SS Camaro. Camaro is on top right now, mustang will take over in 2013, then who knows what but the Camaro is cheap. You can't beat 54k for all that power. If we were comparing muscle cars the 2012 Corvette ZR1 smokes all of these!
evepxpx 2 weeks ago
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evepxpx 2 weeks ago
I got to sit in this today in the auto show, man the shifter feels perfect and the recaro seats are comfortable.No test drive/revv
XxtrickshotxX100 2 weeks ago
FORD!!!! HURRY THE FUCK UP AND LET MOTORTREND TEST THIS AGAINST THE ZLSHIT
TheBeaverguy21 3 weeks ago
@TheBeaverguy21 i bet the shelbshit can't even corner
stig1995atl 1 week ago
@stig1995atl 2012 Shelby can handle better than an SS....Now they've done more to handling/suspension/aerodynamics and other stuff
TheBeaverguy21 1 week ago
@TheBeaverguy21 bullshit
stig1995atl 1 week ago
@stig1995atl why is that bullshit but a stock mustang GT can keep up with an BMW M3? hmmmm
mrhazel 4 days ago
@mrhazel they're both for small penised toolbags
stig1995atl 4 days ago
@stig1995atl riiiiiiiiiiiight. so you're the big dick prius owner them?
mrhazel 4 days ago
@mrhazel i dont drive a fucking prius and i stand by my opinion of mustang drivers which are massive c**ks
stig1995atl 4 days ago
@stig1995atl oh my great for you standing by your opinion. god forbid you stand by facts... by the way, you mad bro?
mrhazel 4 days ago
@mrhazel no
stig1995atl 4 days ago
Chevy got too many weapons Ford ZL1 and ZR1 suck it!! Never will the mustang be faster than the vette
pm77sweigart 3 weeks ago
@AdverbAdjective-In latest MotorTrend, ZL1 beat Boss 302 LS by 2.45 secs around a track. Driver couldn't cut curbs w/ Boss because live-axle kept skipping/sliding out! Also, ZL1 posted 7.41 at Nurburgring. Ford tested '13 GT500 at "ring" but never released a time. If GT500 surpassed ZL1, I think Ford would've released time by now. If read between the lines, ZL1 likely quicker around a track than GT500. That said, Mustang will have bragging rights at the strip. At least, for coming model year.
G8GTJav 3 weeks ago
The gtr has aerodynamics. That gt500 facia is like trying to run holding a piece of plywood. Id still take the gt500 though.
Mangobrain82 3 weeks ago
This things looks heavier than any older models Mustang and it barely touches 200 but the ZR1 does 205 or more without the limiter and 200 mph on a car that 650hp is quite embarrassing the new 530 GTRhp does more than 200 as well without the limiter.
BoredomKills25 3 weeks ago
@BoredomKills25 no gtr has ever hit 200mph (stock). what have you been smoking. #TeamUsa.
Bravo12RX 3 weeks ago
@Bravo12RX i said without the Limiter
BoredomKills25 3 weeks ago
@BoredomKills25 even without the limiter , no GTR can do 200mph. it's to slow and it's Japanese. it takes 400,000$ to make a car go 202mph.(lfa) #TeamUSA.
Bravo12RX 3 weeks ago
@Bravo12RX not everything resumes to max speed....The GTR handles like a dream compared to the GT500, but i really like the GT500, its such a cool car to have and drive, the sound of the engine is just amazing.
darkdawn01 3 weeks ago
@darkdawn01 i rather take the american car. gtrs are too slow. and the gt500 could trap more less the same as the zr1 as it's numbers are bigger/ the same.
Bravo12RX 3 weeks ago
@BoredomKills25
It is actually only slightly heavier than previous models despite a larger engine, blower, and intercooler due to a carbon fiber drive shaft. The ZR1 has similar horsepower but weighs 500 pounds less, costs $40,000 more and only has a top speed 3 MPH higher. No Stock GTR has broken 200 MPH, the fastest recorded was 198MPH and that hasn't changed with the 2013...and it is $40,000 more as well.
ezarethe 3 weeks ago
@ezarethe ZR1 starts at 54,000 580 hp and 540 tq and weighs about the same soooo yea
crazyrick2172 2 weeks ago
@crazyrick2172 sorry zl1
crazyrick2172 2 weeks ago
@crazyrick2172
Yes I was talking about the ZR1 as in Corvette not the ZL1 Camaro since it was in reply to boredom killer mentioning it as car that could do over 200MPH. The ZL1 can't do 200MPH because it is running a 3.73 rear end and weighs almost 400 pounds more than the 2013 GT500 with a similar drag coefficient. The main reason the GT500 can go faster than 200 MPH this year other than some minor aerodynamic modifications is Ford dropped the gearing from 3.73 to 3.31 while adding 100HP.
ezarethe 2 weeks ago
Ford Does it again!!! :) Mustang is just the proper way to go when purchasing a pony car. Can never go wrong.
mustangtibor 4 weeks ago
@AdverbAdjective Thanks for the numbers I asked for. Its simple math but obviously beyond your brain power.
OgleTorp 1 month ago
Don't dis the camaro guys I mean I've been around since I was born and I love them but the 2013 shelby gt500 is pretty sexy,and if gets near 200mph the cpu will probably shut it down or the motor will blow look at the svt cobra for example you redline it at top speed for a few secs n the motor blows,I had that happen to my friends dad
shadowsasuke97 1 month ago
@shadowsasuke97
I have a 2011 GT500 and I've hit 150 MPH with 3.73 gears with plenty of room to spare. I don't have the governor removed but I know some one who has and hit 180. Add 100 HP and lower gearing (which increases the top speed but slows acceleration) and with the aerodynamic modifications 200 MPH is easy in this car and no the engine isn't going to blow. The GT500 is using pretty much the same engine found in the Ford GT (with a dry sump) which has no problem doing 200MPH +.
ezarethe 1 month ago
@ezarethe cool story bro jk lol but I have nothing against the mustang I was just sayin that I think the camaro zl1 would have a chance against it and b4 anyone says no think about it after the mustang hits i dunno around 170mph it probably takes a while to get to 200 correct me if im wrong
shadowsasuke97 1 month ago
@shadowsasuke97
Every car accelerates slower the closer you get to their top speed. Even the Veyron takes 43 seconds to hit 250. I'm only saying that old video of the guy blowing his engine was in a '99 Cobra that comes stock with 320 horsepower and he was supposedly boosted to 600HP and was likely running way too much compression and redlining, one detonation at that RPM and your motor is gone.The GT500 isn't running nearly as much boost and has a far better engine than that old iron 32v 4.6.
ezarethe 4 weeks ago
I am here because bunch of shitstang fan boys go to camaro videos!!!...so i dont care this car is gay and stupid and super gay there i am putting myself to this shitstang owners level...
MI1LO8 1 month ago
Honestly, ever since Nissan came out with that new GTR, the power of these pony cars just isn't impressive anymore. The ugly GTR will blow the Mustang and the Corvette away, whether it's a 1/4 mile or a track. Actually, you need a supercar to outrun the Nissan. So if your sitting at the lights in your Stang or Z06 or whatever and some punk pulls up beside you in a V6 GTR, your toast before the race has even began. Ford and Chev need to make a car that can compete with the GTR, imo!
puffrooster 1 month ago
@puffrooster My guess is some punk isnt going to be driving a 98000 dollar car!! If you have a gt 500 or a Zl1 you have 40000 left over for bolt ons. The GTR is a strong runner but how many people can drop 98k on a car most people dont have enough for the Zl1 or gt500!!! I'll take a SS or 5.0 and bolt parts on when I get some extra cash!!
gmrtg1414 1 month ago
@gmrtg1414 Where I live, there are lots of punks driving IS-F's, GTR's, GT's, SS's and I even spotted a couple of Asian teenagers in a Lambo and a Ferrari; I'm guessing they are, spoiled rotten, dot-com millionaires, future hockey players (who were recently scouted) or crack dealers (easy to spot because they have 22" wheels on their Escalades and/or BMW's). After market stuff works great if it's installed properly but us old guys don't have time for that; we just upgrade and get it over with...
puffrooster 4 weeks ago
@gmrtg1414
Love your way of thinking dude :) I'd take a 5.0 myself anyday!!
mustangtibor 4 weeks ago
This stang may beat the zl1 beat you guys are out of your minds if you think it will touch the zr1. The body shape alone will prevent that.
blaknite1 1 month ago
The engine inside this GT500 is enormous. According to Mustang 5.0 magazine, the 5.8 has a 623 lb shipping weight. The 7.0 from the Corvette Z06 weighs just 440 lbs. Big-ass engine but it's worth it.
elr456 1 month ago
@AdverbAdjective Curious if you know what front to rear weight distribution is? Tell me the front end weight of all 3 cars you mentioned. Bet you cant even figure that out!
OgleTorp 1 month ago
Zl1 fabois keep telling themselves that the magnetic shit in the zl1 is enough to bend the laws of physics. no gm nutswiggers it's really not, look at the V.I.R track times and you'll see that the 2011 gt500 is wayyy faster than the cts-v without the new handling improvements the 2013 will have. Not to mention the extra 100 hp. It beat the audi R8 v10 for gods sake.
hugosuave1 1 month ago
The Boss will outhandle this car easily. The ZL1 laid waste to the Boss in the latest Motor Trend magazine. I would give the advantage to the GT500 straight line performance over the ZL1 and certainly give the ZL1 the edge at everything else. Too much nose weight and skinny little tires will be the GT500s downfall just like always.
OgleTorp 1 month ago
still no match for a independent rear suspension ZL1 camaro.
mpfsupra 1 month ago
@mpfsupra: Are you serious? The Mustang GT 5.0 is quicker than a Camaro SS in a straight line and around a track, even though the GT 5.0 has slightly less HP than the SS. IRS is giving no performance advantage over the mustangs.
V8Supercar1 1 month ago
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mpfsupra 1 month ago
I love it but those wheels are teeeeerrrrible!
slingblade1991 1 month ago
And this isnt even a supersnake... so much for chevys zl1
MrNjones93 1 month ago
Ford : For Only Real Drivers! Forget that old acronym. The only American car company that didn't need a bail out. Keep up the good work Ford and the SVT department. Bye bye Chrysler's SRT.
TrueBIGJay 1 month ago
R.I.P.-CAMARO ZL1, CORVETTE ZO6
kirk0respite 1 month ago
@kirk0respite your right about the Camero but i wouldnt kill the Z06 just yet....
SLManiaInc 1 month ago
@kirk0respite Sorry mate, but I think the gt500 is a competitor to the ZR1, the boss 302 would be more of a comparison to the Z06
TheRohBoat 1 month ago
@IceColdBeerPlease where's the fun in owning a car that's punching out 650 horsies when you can't do a burnout off the line? XD... but in all seriousness. I'd rather we work on improving our vehicles handling abilities so it's more than just a "drag car". Love Mustangs, but most European and Japanese cars would kill this thing at the turns.
pokesfan92 1 month ago
I already did bioch. i dreamed about it last night.
tvane1225 1 month ago
probably cant handle for shit
breezythakid93 1 month ago
why did he say blaaa blaa blaa after the preformance goodies? thats the shit i want to hea about i can see the cosmetic shit im not blind dumbass
TheFosterchild15 1 month ago
Seacrest County's Shelbys are no joke anymore.
josornio300 1 month ago
luh dis shit all over lol i must say though i liked the 2011 headlights better these ones make the car look crosseyed...jus sayin
bigcrow1011 1 month ago
It's just friendly competition between the ZL1 and the GT500, not like it's a life or death situation. Besides, most of you probably can't afford either one, so just enjoy the fact that this competition is here.
TheGtracer1994 1 month ago
ZL1 all day .l.(-_-) .l.
1981qrycher 1 month ago
Bad to the bone. Period.
BMFerCVN 1 month ago
Wow... I actually want to have sex with a car now..
BlackGT45th 1 month ago
I got the feeling a 700hp Ford Gt is due up soon
redd7188 1 month ago
what are the disadvantages of the live rear axle?
Kacz532 1 month ago
650 HP stock!!! Holy shittt imagine what the Super Snake Version is gonna have!!!!
punjabi91695 1 month ago
Ford always does this to me! They produce an epic 302 boss one year and make me want it, then the next year come out with a 200mph GT500 and make me reconsider. Lol. I love this dilemma. Go MUSTANG!!!
TrueBIGJay 1 month ago
@TrueBIGJay i'm with you
slspg 1 month ago
Dam!!!!! Please god can I hit the lotto!!!!
Akdog08 1 month ago
650 HORSE POWER 200 MPH O SHIT
fread51 1 month ago
7,000 rpm omg
hellrell2092 1 month ago
It makes me sad to know that I'll most likely never own one of these.
TheRealKLewis 1 month ago in playlist More videos from motortrend
So what's this beast going to make with with a pulley and tune? 750? It's just sooo damn easy to get power out of an SVT mustang engine.
hugosuave1 1 month ago
@hugosuave1
Which is why I wish they would worry more about suspension now lol!!
GJJTexas 1 month ago
@GJJTexas I'm not worried at all, the 2011 gt500 beats the cts-v in every track tested. check out the v.i.r lap times, then add 100 hp and better handling.
hugosuave1 1 month ago
650 hp!?!?!?!
Maxswims123456 1 month ago
the CRAPMARO zl1 killer
drfaticus 1 month ago 10
I doubt this will have 650 hp. when ford show the old Gt500 to the public they said it would make 600 hp when it only had 500.
camouflagecamaro99 1 month ago
@camouflagecamaro99 the gt500 made its hp! Where did you get 600hp for the old 500?
braddfordy 1 month ago
@camouflagecamaro99 your right though hot rod magazine which is a gm bias rag dyno'd the 13 gt500 at 7000 rpm their computer showed 670hp! They didn't say if it was rwhp or crank but either way that's more than ford claims
braddfordy 1 month ago
@braddfordy See I said it didn't make 650 hp.
camouflagecamaro99 1 month ago
@camouflagecamaro99 yea when did ford say the old 500 was gonna have 600hp?
braddfordy 1 month ago
Love Ford.
TheJohnson1313 2 months ago
They're giving the Boss a Shelby Stripe? The Shelby Stripe belongs solely on Shelby's!
TheKnightTeam 2 months ago
If this mustang is going to do 200 mph, damn! How many people believe that if Ford brought back the Ford GT with this beast of an engine, and some carbon brakes, that it would rape the ZR1 and splooge on it's carbon fiber hood? I do, but i can only speak for myself.
hugosuave1 2 months ago
@hugosuave1 lol, kid a mustang will never rape a zr1. Sorry.
hellon45 2 months ago
@hellon45 I'm pretty sure he said if Ford built a new GT.
608gamer07 1 month ago
@hugosuave1 Ford Racing offers a Pulley & Tune for the Ford GT that adds a hundred horsepower and is available for purchase at your local Ford dealer, and you're right it'll walk a ZO6 like it's down 2 cylinders.
1vdn992 2 months ago
@1vdn992 Maybe a GT with that mod can hang with a ZR1. Dont get me wrong I love the GT but for the money they should be able to crush a Z06 and they simply dont.
OgleTorp 1 month ago
@OgleTorp Most reviewers report that Vettes and GT-Rs have the ride of a Cement Mixer, and you figure it's ok to spend 50% more on a Vette to beat a Mustang, but it's not ok to spend 50% more on a FGT to beat a Vette, sounds to me like you're talking out both sides of your mouth.
1vdn992 1 month ago
@1vdn992 Last I checked the ZR1 is cheaper than a GTs price tag of 6 years ago. Pay more money for a GT and still lose or pay 50k for a GT500 and get killed in every segment weather it be at the hand of a base C6 or a ZR1. I hope Motor Trend does another test like they did when the ZO6 and GT500KR came out. Please try not to avoid the question like you always do and tell me a single aspect the mustang won.
OgleTorp 1 month ago
@OgleTorp The only thing the Vette kills is your bank account because of the poor resale value they bring, same can't be said for the FGT. There's a reason market value is much greater for the GT Ford, i feel sorry for you if you can't figure that out. The Ford GT, as well as being more colletible, is the ultimate tuner car, OEM is for people with no mechanical ability to brag about a little extra performance. New ZR1/ZO6s haven't devalued the GT at all, smart guys prefer exotics.
1vdn992 1 month ago
@1vdn992 Way to avoid the question like always. The answer is NONE. Also funny how you say the GTR and Vette ride like cement trucks. Im sure by your extensive time behind the wheel of a Ford GT you would know that they ride like you are on a cloud of air.
OgleTorp 1 month ago
@OgleTorp What do you think of this new Fusion? it won Best of Show,
watch?v=m9wf5VRSPSU
1vdn992 1 month ago
@1vdn992 I think its right up your alley if it rides smooth and has an automatic transmission.
OgleTorp 1 month ago
@1vdn992 And by the way the ultimate tuner car is the Dodge Viper. They are far more available and 500+ cubic inch engines make more hp without having power adders than a stock GT with a compressor. Plenty of videos of twin turbo vipers running 7 or 8 second quarters on here. GT isnt even close to that.
OgleTorp 1 month ago
@OgleTorp A Ford GT holds the world record in the standing mile for cars with a license plate, stereo, air conditioning and so forth, 267 mph, and that was on a hot and humid day into an 18 mph headwind, and where's the Viper, i'll tell you, eatin some high speed dust,
watch?v=SZOmL1TLkME
read the attached article, it's an easy read.
1vdn992 1 month ago
@1vdn992 True, now show me a GT that runs under ten in the quarter. There are also way more mods out there for a viper plus there is much more potential out of a v10 viper engine than the GTs small v8. 500-550hp with a supercharger is nothing special stock. ZO6 has over 500hp N.A and the viper has over 600. Both are cheaper and more available too.
OgleTorp 1 month ago
if they didnt fix the traction/torque problems imma be ticked. if launching the 2013 is as hard as the 2011-12 models then evn 650 hp will only get you a 0-60 of like 3.9
wilcoxStudios18 2 months ago
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gmrtg1414 2 months ago
If you can take a dick you can take a joke, with that being said only fags drive camaros!
texasbradley 2 months ago
@texasbradley i agree.
drfaticus 2 months ago
@texasbradley Mustangs are for women with high heels.
nonnormman 1 month ago
i need that
ajsullyvincennes 2 months ago
The New 2013 Mustang gt 500 SUPER CAR ?
transrus1 2 months ago
Solid axles handle power better than irs u fools.. irs will break if they didn't have torque management in first, and second gear. Drag cars have solid axles with well over 1000 hp
santiagomel00 2 months ago 9
@santiagomel00 better in a straight line but not so great in the corners. for me i want something that will take any kind of punishment from straights to corners but i will say this this car is a monster by the figures depending on how pricing goes the zr1 might have competition when it comes to budget 600+ hp cars.
WellImHereNow 1 month ago in playlist More videos from motortrend
@santiagomel00 Nobody gives the fuck about the power you assclown...the point is it doesn't handle around a track worth the fuck compared to a car with IRS.
frambesbuckeye 1 month ago
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Dear Santa....aw fuck too late....
shizzlemynizzle12345 2 months ago
Only 550 hp not 650 cough cough
UntouchableHaloGod 2 months ago
Oh, live axle and solid axle are not the same thing. Live axle means driven axle, not solid axle. A driven IRS is still a live axle.
gabemarlin 2 months ago
For all of you idiots out there, soild axle's are better for putting down power. The fastest IRS car in the world runs in the 7's. The fastest drag cars are all solid axle. The s197 chassis gas been as fast as high six second quarters and the 5th gen camaro just ran its first 8 sec quarter not too long ago.
gabemarlin 2 months ago
sick
IGotKnifeProductions 2 months ago
I jizzed
MrEazyer777 2 months ago
I love the paint job on this car. And 650 hp!? I used to think mustangs were over rated but I really like this one! :O
99oildrops 2 months ago
650 hp, same as an enzo, hope that live rear axle can handle the power
13sfaustino 2 months ago
Looks better then the old mustang
tamoorareeba 2 months ago
Wow
tamoorareeba 2 months ago
ZR1 Killer?
m1k3S795 2 months ago
@m1k3S795 No.
CHRISZTRON 2 months ago
i dont have a job yet but when i do the first thing to do is buy that kicking ass shelby.
TheVice86 2 months ago
59,999 would do it.
TheVice86 2 months ago
@spacecadets1997
The mustang really isnt a muscle car....it never has been.
illinisb 2 months ago
Sweet! A new super weapon we can use to shit on imports!
k0olguy163 2 months ago 23
you cant shit on anything with this crap...lol
teniszogica 2 months ago
@k0olguy163 not a super car just a muscle car
UnkownGamer1 1 month ago
The GT500 is a badass car. Hum to bad its going to cost more then I can afford with 3 kids,wife,dogs and a mortgage.
bullittben50 2 months ago
They do a good job at making a mean rear end.
ManagingDirector1 2 months ago
Fucking love this, looks like Ford Finally did something worth while with the GT500. Finally some real competition between the big three above the Camaro, Challenger, and 5.0 Stang. Can't wait to see if this one can not make a fool out of itself on the track like previous models.
iPROFITDON 3 months ago
Nice car! Cant wait to see Jeremy's wired face for this New masterpiece. haha!
bryanchen23 3 months ago
Ford is coming back baby! Chevy has gotten almost all the glory in muscle car history.
Spacecadet1997 3 months ago
look at the front of the car see that big catchers mitt not aerodynamic enough for 200 mph and people saying any more than 200 would b e crazy ford even said that the suspension and frame are built for 200mph or less not more and it is not race ready off the showroom floor the "crap" CAMARO ZL1 is race ready and is cheaper by at least $4000 or more and proven on the nurbhuring :) ps i own a mustang
morg405 3 months ago
@morg405 how do you know that it cost atleast $4000 or more if they havent even told anyone how much its going to cost,and im preaty sure it is race ready becuse they were testing it at nurburgring track and got 7 sec less than the camaro.
GhostFaceKilllah 2 months ago
@GhostFaceKilllah when did they test it and its not always what you see is what you get they put cooling systems on for stuff like the diff. and stuff like that and why are we comparing a 2012 vehicle with time to improve to a 2013 vehicle that will gett no more power boosts in the future :) like i said i own a mustang so im not biased
morg405 2 months ago
@morg405 i saw on a mustang forum,v2 to be exact and my papa owns a 1984 mustang thats tuned so i love mustangs and hopefully it will be mine one day
GhostFaceKilllah 2 months ago
@morg405 Dude the '13 GT500 offers an engine oil cooler, tranny cooler and rear diff cooler, not to mention torsen rear diff, fully adjustable suspension, launch control that can be tuned to your liking, Recaro racing seats. Ford has had test mules of this car on the Nurburgring for quite some time. Do more research please.
608gamer07 2 months ago
@morg405 i never seem a camaro be cheaper than a mustang most of the time even now a mustang gt is fastest & cheaper than the camaro SS a boss mustang is about the seem price of a full loaded camaro and the shelby goes about the seem of the boss laguna seca so i think the ZL-1 will be more priced than shelbys & i hope it does as good as the boss laguna seca at the track, or will looks very bad!
junkymuscle 2 months ago
idk why they don't test 2013 saleen s281E
cwassberg 3 months ago
@cwassberg cause its not really a car you could walk up to the dealer and drie off with. Those are mostly at special dealers.
MrMustang210 3 months ago
@ajskulls09 get the 500
redline078 3 months ago
@gerrits96 they fixed the traction issues by putting the boss 302 suspension on it and pirellis... And the 302 boss is hitting the high 180s for a topspeed so this should hit 200
dtdeb99 3 months ago
GUYs whats the difference between MUSTANG GT, SHELBY GT500KR, SHELBY GT500 SUPERSNAKE, SHELBY GT500 COBRA please explain to me
Cinema4DeDits 3 months ago
@Cinema4DeDits the spelling.
12211260 2 months ago
Whats wrong with these ppl... thats too much hp... soon our daily driver will have over a 1000 HP and supercars will have over 5000 HP... give ten or 15 years and see yourself!!!
charjohnnie 3 months ago
Mt drivers are not the best. Im not talking about the hired race car drivers.
robfrmny21 3 months ago
Should I get this gt500 or get the camaro zl1????? I'm getting a car next year and can't decide
AJskullz09 3 months ago
wow... sweet
bigbige559 3 months ago
ill just wait for this one ;)
sochrd 3 months ago
@Docwolph, hasn't the Mazda Miata been the best selling two seater of all time?
MrStangGTCS 3 months ago
So Im Thinking 1000 HP GT 500 Super Snake?!.... (:
83estrada 3 months ago
I would like to see a lateral g comparison of the shelby gt 500, boss, camaro zl1, corvette zr1 because if these muscle cars are able to corner with more lateral g then the zr1 then the slight straight line speed advantage the vette has wont matter because they will able to get higher cornering speeds to carry on the straights... on the street straight line speed wont matter either because theres nowhere to go for it to matter so id take a more practical muscle car :P.. new mustangs look good :)
MrTNL3 3 months ago
Dear Santa ...
SimulatorTester 3 months ago
I'm a Chevy guy but thats a bad ass mustang!
craig1h 3 months ago
@ogle torp your right and a mustang with a live rear axel will never beat a vette ever!
craig1h 3 months ago
I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT. I Will Never Have..... :(
CrisKG125 3 months ago
now only if they could supercharge 7.0L engine from the Z06 and put it in the ZR1 now that would be a stupidly fast car
blaboy2012 3 months ago
I'm a little skeptical. Hennessey supercharged a Boss 302 and got 650 HP. The Boss is lighter than the GT500 btw. The blown 302 got an 11.9 quarter mile. If this heavier GT500 also has 650 HP then I think it will be slower. According to GM, the ZL1 runs 12 flat. Not saying this car sucks but unless the 2013 GT500 is underrated then the ZL1 is not even close to losing. And that's if it really includes the LSA when it's released. If Chevy answers back with the LS9 then it's over.
elr456 3 months ago
@elr456 If you noticed Hennessey didn't launch the blown Boss hard and then didn't power shift either, that's why the 11.9. Here's a stock Boss with just DRs stopping the lights in 11.72s,
watch?v=VLmXeUflf4I
and this car doesn't have TracKey or the baffles removed like this car,
watch?v=K5p8WQj9apw
watch?v=AtmsTYuu65g
1vdn992 3 months ago
The price better be CHEAPER considering it's a 6.2 with a shorter stroke. Ford Better not drop the ball on this.
Speedmccool385bitch 3 months ago
Um... guys, if ya look @da facts...MOTORTREND placed the BOSS 302 AHEAD of the VETTE Z06/07. So I'm sure, it's safe to say, the boss is better than the GS VETTE.
Speedmccool385bitch 3 months ago
@1vdn992 stole that
usranger4lyfe401 3 months ago
Regarding improved 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile times…
“Of special note is the 2.66 1st gear that, with the 3.31 final drive, will get the GT500 to about 62 mph at 7000 rpm. So a dramatic 0–60 improvement is expected, and combined with an extra 100 horsepower the quarter-mile time could likely drop by a half second.”
1vdn992 3 months ago
2013 Ford Mustang: Even the taillights are cool Our collective crush on the 2013 Ford Mustang mostly centers around Ford being smart enough to not screw with already outstanding product. With the exception of the gargantuan power boost for the 2013 Shelby GT500, most of the changes are minor, like these killer taillights.
Can we obsess over these taillights for a minute? Many carryover design cues end up looking cartoonish over time, but the
1vdn992 3 months ago