cowards and liars all the way, all the arabs do is talk. if we the jews where realy hating the arabs and did a fraction of what one nation out of many did two us they will run to the other end of the earth and forget what they where fighting us for to begin with. and believe me we have the capability to do to them much worse then all nations combined did to us and then some. one day we will get our revenge but first we must know who hates us and who does not, we could read ur mind.with g-d help
Islamist drama all the way, the non-muslims in malaysia and southern Thailand are attacked with the same excuses. the islamists need always an agenda to hate their non-muslim neighbour.
ive bin to israel, it is a very racist country and there is an aparthaid, the israelis have killed 500 thousand palestinians and destroyed many palestinian villages which left 9 million as refugees ISRAEL IS THE NEW NAZI, ZIONAZI
@themightyjoseph Palestinians are not innocent so take your bullshit elsewhere. I wish 500 thousand palestinains were destroyed or dead because that would mean there wont be ANY palestinians left to cause problems. Too bad Palestinians are not a real culture or people they are just JORDANIAN ARABS.
@Shinobubu ok, you want to play dirty? ok then, i piss on the bodys and ashes of all those who died in the holocaust OW WAIT there was no holocaust IT WAS ONLY A JOKE
Define "Palestinians' for me Jason? Can you find any evidence of these so called "Palestinian people' before 1967? "Palestine" was never a country period. Syria, Jordan All of the above countries were created by Britain and the League of Nations from the remains of the Ottoman Empire in the late 1800s/early 1900s. They are artificial countries with no basis in history.
A UN mandate created a Pali state and an Israeli one. When the Arabs engaged in a surprise attack against Israel, they lost and in turn lost land. You just have no concept of history, read about it. See the map with the Pali state and Israeli one, look at it after the war of 48' and read before you write you sound like an angry Arab, maybe you are one?
How do you gain independence when you start a war along with the other Arab nations? I don't understand how that can happen. After the war of 48 my friend the Palis lost their "state", simple as that.
So many questions let me answer them all by a comment from David Ben-Gurion,on the proposed Peel Commission Partition plan as follows in 1937:
"We must EXPEL ARABS and take their places .... and, if we have to use force-not to dispossess the Arabs of the Negev and Transjordan, but to guarantee our own right to settle in those places-then we have force at our disposal."
Interestingly, If you replace the word "Arabs" with the word "Negro" or "non-Arab", you had exactly described what is going on in Sudan, right now, even as I am typing. However, no Muslim or useful idiot leftist appears interested that the Arabs are using war to displace over a million non-Arabs. No Muslim interested to step in to stop the war.
So, is this about justice & fairness, or that you just have a personal agenda to push, just like the rest of the Muslim world? What's your real agenda?
Every time I mention Palestine the Zionist mention the war in Sudan, for the last time: YOU CANNOT HIDE YOUR CRIMES BEHIND SOMEONE ELSES CRIMES.
Secondly idiots who talk about Sudan have no idea about the situation there and use it as a pretext to bash Muslims.
The Dafurians are also Muslims, we are all upset for the war, but the imperialist focuses on that war because they want to rule Sudan for the resources.
the over a million that have been killed are in Iraq my friend not sudan.
I am merely pointing out Muhammadan hypocrisy and double standards. Arabs in Darfur are superior Muslims this is the reason for the ethnic cleansing there.
Anyway what crime? Do you really think your Ben Gurion quote is water tight? Would it stand up to scrutiny? In a court?
Stupid Muhammadan. Your brain is so filled with Quranic nonsense, there is room for little else.
btw 80% of muzzies killed in Iraq are at the hands of their own brothers. a war that has been going on for 1400 years.
Again the Dafurians are also Muslims, there have been incidents of ethnic clashes, but the colonialists dont want to talk about the Congo genocide, or the war in Yemen almost the same as the Darfur war that no western media sees worth mentioning where the UN calling it a humanitarian crisis. Here is lies the double standard.
Muhammadan hypocrisy ?? Clearly youre an islamaphobe and have a problem with Muslims.
Yes I know Dafurians are also Muslims. So are Shiites but that hasn't stopped them slaughtering each other since the death of Muhammad. And I have no problem with Muslims. Muhammadan Islam is the problem. btw, can you provide your source for the fake Ben Gurion quote please?
@Jason10498 people should fear Islam as it is a religion for pederasts and terrorists. The very words of Mohammed calls for the death of the people of the book. However your comment only proves that Muslims have no problem killing there own so Genocide is not beneath them even amongst there own. For the sake of arguments Shiites considers Sunni's as non believers anyways so In that regard its still ETHNIC cleansing.
@Shinobubu the problem is not any religion, the problem is colonialism and Settler colonialism impostors posing as religion.Nelson Mandela was also called a terrorist and anti white but his crime was that he wanted his country back from the settlers.Your country Canada also had a indigenous population where are they now? If i did not know Christianity i would called it a Genocide Religion because of what happen in history.But I have understood that a colonialist has no religion.
@Jason10498 In that case, can Christians have Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Morrocco, Lybia, Turkey (and the other half of the Christian Roman empire) back after their 1400 year occupation and colonisation by marauding Muslim settlers?
@peterpedant What occupation ??? The indigenous population cannot occupy themselves.There were Muslim settlers, but there was no Settler colonialism, nor were the indigenous population wiped out
What do u mean give them back ,Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Morrocco, Lybia, Turkey.They never belong to the roman empire in the first place.Nor did North America and South America belong to Europe.
@Jason10498 Oh dear, now you have the unenviable task of proving that the so called 'Palestinians' of today are the indigenous population. Where can one find the recorded history of these people? If they are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them the right for self determination, Why did they not declare their independence between the years of 1948-1967?
@peterpedant generic Arabs collected: you mean serveral million of people where depopulated from the Arab country, which ones exactly? If this is true
@peterpedant Palestinians are a NATIONALITY aka Citizens of the State of Palestine.
History of the geography called Palestine begins in Exodus where Pelesheth is 1st mentioned.
History of the State of Palestine begins in 1922 with League of Nations Mandate [aka Trusteeship] State of Palestine of non self-governing territory whose sovereign poeers were administrated by United Kingdom as trustee: Sovereignty are retained buy the people aka trustors.
@vistavision2 Absurd premise that Palestinians need to declare Independence:
State of Palestine PRE-EXISTS State of Israel :
1 State of Israel was partitioned from State of Palestine with UNGA 181- UN Charter Article 80 Terms resolute act in accordance with Article 77 "a. Territories now held under mandate" & Article 81 "Organization, itself" as Trusteeship adminsitrator
2 Israels Proclamation of Independence refers to UNGA 181, not once but twice, as it source or sovereignty
Would these be resolutions made by the 52 Arab states who take it in turns on a weekly basis to gang up against Israel? How many UN SC resolutions regarding human rights abuses are the Arab states in violation of? The UN is a worthless and corrupt organisation. Everyone knows that... except for you apparently. LOL!
Iraq is in violation of 2 UN resolutions and gets invaded..israel? attack and kill 34 sailors on the USS Liberty and get billions in US Aid afterwards
The 1 country with historical basis recreated after Ottomans is Israel, it sits on <1% of the MidEast & 30% of the Palestine Province yet the Arabs want this <1% too!
No one robbed land from so-called 'Palestinians' or invaded. The UN Parttition Resolution set up a small state for Jews in Palestine, including many sephardic Jews indigenous to palestine
Palestine would have been larger in 1948 than any Palestinian could ever imagine now. Why is there no Palestine now? Why dont you talk to the 5+ invading Arab armies that tried to exterminate Israel as a newborn state!
talk to the 5 arab armies that attacked, not Israel
but what really is artificial are settler states where Europeans occupy a country and transfer there people there and drive away the native population of that area, like Israel, Apartheid South Africa, Australia ,USA u get the idea.
The Palestinians are not asking for all their country back, they are not asking for the villages now in ruins that have been emptied to be re-filled again, they are asking for a land recognized by international to build as their own state.
The Palestinians are calling for killing all Jews, and pushing them into the sea. The PLO and Hamas both teach the kids and use the symbol of their land, as Israel in its entirety. To not know this, is just showing your lack of information, education, and your laziness in not leaning that the Palis want every last inch of Israel, and the death of all Jews, Xtains and others.
Strange thing: the Palestinian Arabs "recall" that they are "The People" and that they need "A State", only when they live on the territories controlled by Israel. But as soon as any other nation controls these territories, these same Palestinian Arabs, together with the "International Community", immediately forget about this.
Wow so many questions let me answer all of them with a comment from Ben-Gurion on the proposed Peel Commission Partition plan as follows in 1937:
"We must EXPEL ARABS and take their places .... and, if we have to use force-not to dispossess the Arabs of the Negev and Transjordan, but to guarantee our own right to settle in those places-then we have force at our disposal."
Interestingly, If you replace the word "Arabs" with the word "Negro" or "non-Arab", you had exactly described what is going on in Sudan, right now, even as I am typing. However, no Muslim or useful idiot leftist appears interested that the Arabs are using war to displace over a million non-Arabs. No Muslim interested to step in to stop the war.
Is this about justice & fairness, or that you just have a personal agenda to push, just like the rest of the Muslim world? What's your real agenda?
What is a Palestinian, up until 1967, there was no such thing, and prior to Israel becoming a state, a Palestinian was a Jew living in the area called Palestine.
The newspaper the Palestinian Post, after Israel was established changed its name to the Jerusalem Post, which you can find info from, prior to Israel when it was the Palestinian Post.
Palestinians are not native to the land of Israel, this is proven through many means.
2nd: Until the Muslims & Arabs dont accept Palestinian refugees in their countries, give them fully rights and citizenship, until they dont stop using them as a propaganda tools for their goal of destructing Israel, until they dont stop using their children as bombs or terrorists I cant care less about all them. This is not hate, but common sense and setting clear rules for co-existence,.. besides thinking, that is Muslim propaganda is useless with me.
Israel is Palestinian land and no body could change that, If 4 million Jews could go to Israel from Europe than why not native population ? If Arabs accept defeat today than other will start claiming some other land same way, There is no end for this.
About Palestine:Until the so called Palestinians, prove the rest of the world they are willing to live peacefully alongside with Jews,until they accept the existence of the State of Israel, until they stop & even prosecute Hamas, whichs declared goal is killing all Jews, until they stop any form of terrorism, until they accept the opportunities the world gives them for peace, they will go on living in a cesspool, and concerning to what I think, they can go on stewing in their own juice.
What world are you talking about ? Are you talking about Few European nations and Amerikkka ? They only got less than 5% of world's population so their opinion does not matter, All that matter is return of Palestinians and return of Palestinian land.
According to the grand mufti of Jerusalem, it would violate Islamic law for even one inch of Palestine to be controlled by Jews. yep and who gave us that law... humans with to much time on there hand's.... religion is bullshit middle easterns myths lies all of it...fuck islam...fuck christ...hail satan hahaha
All started form the dreams of a physoctic who nearly commited suicide (what a lost opportunity for humankind) but was convinced by his wife he was a prophet.. that, his crazyness, the illiteracy of Arab men and many barabaric traditions lead us to the point in which we are now. We will have to stop you, before you destroy our civilization.
So you would advocate the murder of thousands of innocent Palestinian, Egyptian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian children who live in the surrounding areas? I suppose that would be OK wouldn't it, because they would all be martyrs ?
You evil man. You wicked wicked evil man. You obviously follow Satan and hells hottest fires await you! :)
yes that's right ALL of them have caused wars because of their religious belief haven't they? Every Jewish man woman & child. But Muslims are peaceful and have never caused any wars in that area because of their religious beliefs. How do you suppose the Muslims come to be in that area in the first place, or has that never occurred to you? dunce!
Pretty soon we will have the technology to hunt savages like you down. I want to enlist for that job. I would work 11 hours a day for free.
There is no Muslim army in Western countries or any body else's land, but there are armies from almost every western countries in Muslim lands, Israel is also illegal occupation. these western armies are fighting Zionists wars most of times, They support illegal settlements of Jewish people, They support illegal land stealing by Jewish people.
Arabs supported West against Turks because they wanted freedom for their lands, but what did they get ? More occupations, land stealing.
There is no Muslim army, because Muslims don't fight as men do, you only know how to put bombs in trains or restaurants or launch missiles over schools... that is the legendary Arab manhood... I am laughing my head off!!! We had to go to your cesspools after you killed us, as in Afghanistan. BTW as you are ALL illiterate you don't know a word of history, nor history of ME nor the world's history.There are tens of people with no country and they don't kill others: Tibetians, Kurds, Saharauis...
We have never really fought with you bastards since the Crusaders. But we will fight again, and you will know what we are able to do when we are really angry. Remember Japon? a real Empire? the best army of the world? well, HER emperor literally kneed after USA had finished with them.. we have been holding our anger because we can destroy all you in one day....exactly as Israel with those palestinians if they wanted to do so
How funny your are!!! Irak was attacked softly trying to avoid to kill civilians... in the same way Jews try to avoid the death of civilians... But they anyway died, because Sunnies use to kill Shiats in markets and Mosques and viceversa. Killing people is the Muslim national sport. ... so if they can't kill us, they kill between them. 99,9% of Muslims killed in the world die at Muslim hands. We are not thugs but stronger, West is the strongest militar power in the world.
About Congo & Rwanda, no deaths for religous reasons.Colombia: comunist terrorism.. not religion. Sri lanka: Budist; Hinduist, Muslim & only 6% Christian; another racial conflict between Tamiles & cingaleses. India: Naxals, that is communists... what connection have any of these conflicts with Christian religion? when did people die there because of Christian religion?BTW WE NEVER ATTACK HOSPITALS OR SCHOOLS, but you do so & invent we do it also in order to make us look as immoral as you are.
Hey!!! you ar a smart guy, aren't you? I've counted 9 times kill and 5 times death in your profile.. what is for sure is you are an example of the "religion of peace", of the ignorance and illiteracy of their followers, the blind hate for Jews and Amercians and the sickness of your ideology ( if we can call that a heap of hate with no idea but death, and no reasoning but Alla's will)
lonovik: 1st Where are those "millions" of people Zionists have killed?? you should buy a History book and study a bit... too much Quram is harming your brain!!! As far as History knows millions of Jews were killed during WWII while they didn't kill anybody. Millions of Muslims have been killed and are still killed by other Muslims, sunnis kill shiats, and viceversa,Jordans killed Plestinians in black september,men kill women, Imans kill gays, Talibans kill everybody, Muslim terrorists kill US,
lovonik: 2nd:Hamas kill All Fatah,you all kill apostats,Iranians kill Iraqis & viceversa, Sudaneese "arabs" kill sudaneese blacks (despite they are all black & Muslims), not to talk about Muslim Somalies Militias... Ohh! Yes! You ARE the religion of peace! SO when Jews are fed up of dying because of your suicide bombers they build a wall, & you whimper,if they don't want to die because of Hamas rockets,they attack back,kill 1500 people including 600 terrorists & you call them killers..I see!
There is no Muslim in Congo where Christians have killed 8 millions.
There was no Muslim in Rwada where christians have massacred 1 million.
Zionists are target because they stole the land, They are thieves. They have no right to be there. What would you do if some body kick you out from your home and starts living there ?
Palestinians started killing Jews long before Hamas was born. Yasser Arafat was a criminal, who deared to threaten the whole word at UN. 4 million died in Congo and 2 in Rwanda due to racist-tribal wars. Religion was not involved in that. Nobody killed anybody in the name of Jesus. Jews are the ones who have the right to live there. israel is the only indpendent country that has existed in that land. Muslims didn't accept the partition in 1948 because they wanted all. They started a war and lost
Jews were killing Christian long before Islam came into existence, They massacred 40,000 Christians in Yemen in 532 CE, Palestinians are fighting for their own land, 95% Jews are Immigrans in Israel. They have no right on that land, they will be kicked out sooner or later, No body in world could stop that, not even all Western thugs.
Isn't is funny??? you are talking about killing people in Yemen. OK, YOU killed the Jews of Yemen who didn't accept to convert to your cult, in the 1165 and 1678 and again in 1948. (55.000 Jews in 1948, 200 nowadays, after you criminals, started a pogrom in Aden when Israel was stablished again as a country. That moved the Israel Goverment to the operation: Magic Carpet" translating 50,000 Jews in order to save them for your claws. Jews didn't kill Christians in the 532... you are kidding
5 Arab nation declared the war to Israel the day after the new state was born. Palestine is a myth, never existed. At the same time 800,000 Muslims left ISrael (as their masters, the other Arabs told them to do), 800,000 Jews were expelled from countries in which they had lived for centuries before Mohammed was born. They had to leave all their belongings. 1,5 million Muslims live nowadays in Israel with better rights than they have in any Muslim country
It was because of same 5 Arab nations Israel came into existence , those Arab cowards helped British thugs in destroying their own people Turks in the name of freedom, but they later enslaved Arabs. If those stupid Arabs would have not faught against Turks, There was no chance in world that Israel could have been installed there.
Yes and if my grandmother had balls she would be my grandfather.!!! History as it is. Israel exists, thank God, and you will have to accept that fact. In the same way we have to stand the fact that a psycotic man who heared voices and claimed to know God's words created an army of illiterate violent lecehrous men dreaming with 72 virgins which destroyed all East Roman Empire, pulling down all that area and sending it back to middle ages...nor to talk about Persia..which WAS a real culture!
Israel never existed more than 200 years, Pagans destroyed it, Romans destroyed it, Christians destroyed it all by grace of same mighty God.
It will happen again, may be in 10,20, 30,40 or 100 years, No body could stop stop it. Those Arabs will be punished for their treachery.
When Europe was living in dark ages, it was Islam which created modern civilization in middle east, but later western thugs destroyed, those thugs will be kicked out soon.
Israel was an independent country since the 1200BC to the 720 in the North (kingdom of Israel) and the 586Bc in the south when the kingdom of Judah was conquered by the Babylon Empire. After that they have had short periods of sovereign.Jews independent kingdom lasted more than 400 years.
In the year 1200 BC Philistines established in the south of Canaan and what today is Gaza. The name of Palestine comes from the name of Philistines. They were from a place in the Egeo sea (Greek)
"Israel was an independent country since the 1200BC to the 720"
My Ancestors ruled Europe 6000 BC , could I claim Europe now ?
Yes there were Canaanites before Jews, There is no place in world where population change did not happen through conquest or emigration or immigration.
Your ancestors??? come on!! Do you mean black people from Africa??? you are kidding me!!! Palestine? a myth, recently invented. There is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, only common Arabs, or a Palestinian culture, show me a single Palestinian writer or historician or scientific... no they only grow terrorists, there is no Palestinian language, only Arabic, no Palestinian state in any time of history. Arabs came into the Land of Israel one century ago to counteract Jewish immigration.
Myth or not , Palestinians used to live on that land before creation of Israel, and 95% of Jews are immigrants to Israel, so that proves all. It doesn't matter if Palestinians lived there for 100 years, 200 years or 1000 years. What matters is that all those Israeli Jews are immigrants and Palestinians are not.
Yes If Jew wanted immigration like they in united states than there was no problem, they came there to steal the land from others.
Yes, they came 15 minutes before Jews.... so we need to know the excat time they arrived in order to know if they are immigrants or no.... I am laughing my head off!!! the so called Palestinians are common arabs who emigrated at the time Jews did.....but you forget many Jews were there since 4000 years ago.
yes thats right asunagullo, and we know this because of the wealth of historical evidence such as Palestinian archaeological sites, monuments, temples, manuscripts, achievements etc etc all of which can be easily provided by lonovik ! Right ?? LOL!! :)
While Europe has a clear and well defined history, the one which has shaped the world as we know today. Our world ( I mean civilised world) is based in Greek-Roman culture: art, architecture, phylosophy, laws, democracy, etc.. and Jew-Christian values. BTW don't worry so much about Palestine and worry about your own country,a disaster in which children starve in the streets...mmm I think it will be better if you don't claim Europe now.
Yes your so called civilized world who killed 66 million people in WW2, 1.5 million in Algeria, 3 millions in Vietnam, Where racism still exists, support for illegal occupations still exists. Your Judeo- Christian value makes you belive in "God given land" myth, and incites you for hatred for others, occupation of their land and cleasing of local population.
My civilised world is 1000 years light distance from your shit cesspool. Illegal occupation.. what a joke!!! all what exists in ME and Muslim countries would be illegal in Europe or USA and it is obviously immoral.
270 million non-muslims have been slaughtered in the last 1,400 years by Islamic Jihadist - 10 million Buddhist, 60 million Christians, 80 million Hindus, and 120 million African Kuffars and I haven't even begun listing Muslims slaughtered fellow Muslims. If you want to start with moral equivalence Islam loses. EVERYTIME!
Islam is the Ideology & the cause, Muslims did all the dirty work for Allah.
Q2:216 Fighting is ordained for you (lonovik), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and you know not."
Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."
Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
just to clarify, judeo-christian values do not exist. Christian thought and imperialism do not represent me nor zionism--although it may be better than the alternative. (sorry for replying 5 months late)
I am sorry to tell you,THERE IS something similar to "Jew-Christian" values, we follow the same 10 comandments you do, we follow the Old Gospel, your Torah and Tanaj, we believe in the same values & principles. Imperialism is a political issue which can't be judged under the eyes of religion exclusively because life is not so simple, in the same way your fight in Israel with the so called Palestinians is not just a matter of religion...and they also say you are imperialist..& even worse things!
Bocanuz, the fact that you don't feel close to Christians is just a personal oppinion, which can't hide the fact that we, Christians, are heirs of Jews, and we atke after our ancestors.. You may not feel close to Christians, but the Jews I've met here and with whom I have friendship do feel close to us in the same way I feel close to Jews. The seek of personal improvement, the love for your nearest, ....
I don't want to argue too much especially because I mostly agree. Christians as a group have kept some of the jewish books but give them a lower status and call them "old". Christians are also not genetically related to Jews, with the exception of a few early christians, as most are converts.
To say Jews are not the sole heirs of Jews is insulting. The children of Israel are jews and will always be jews and have not given their inheritance to an unrelated ethnic or religious group.
Bocanutz. You are right I am an ally of you, Jews and of Israel as a state. Actually Muslims use to get very angrey with me because I use to say I am Zionist because I defend the rightof Jews to live in the land of the Old Hebrews. And, dear bocanutz, "Old" is just because they were there since long time ago. In the same way Old Gospel is because it was written first, before New one, which i not too new either because it has 2,000 years :-)
Same here, I get attacked to for trying to defend Jews when someone comes up and says kill all Jews. I tell them that is wrong and they blantantly attack me as some sort of Jew-loving Zionist. Since when was Zionist a bad word?
You have misunderstood me, when I say Christians are heirs of Jews I mean our religion and culture is heir, comes from Judaism. It is not a legal inheritance but a "cultural" one...religion, values and principles.
WE, Westerns are also heirs of Romans, that is we have an influence in laws, language, art, architecture, etc... it doesn't mean that I want a plot in Rome :-))) Actually I consider saying we are heirs of Jews is a tribute not an insult.
i was talking about a familial lineage, which i suppose is also a legal one. I understand your point and agree but i still feel its best to limit the use of the phrase judeo-christian or any variant thereof. There are many, many Judeo-Islamic values, but people would rather see jews as westerners than middle-easterners. this is something that has weakened the jews' claim to the land of israel. the black-hatters... fine, i'll consider them westerners because they dress like medieval pollocks.
That is the only issue I have. I am happy to be your friend and welcome christians as allies, but I want to make it clear that we are not the same and that Jewish tradition is not Christian tradition. Jewish tradition is a set of 613 laws in our hebrew Torah, along with many customs and teachings. Christian texts are mainly the New Testament and rulings by popes, priests and other clergymen.
I do not mean to offend you at all. I am only saying these things because i consider you to be an ally and i want us to understand our relationship with one another.
Bocanutz: you have not offended me at all. Obviously we have different traditions and different customs, but we also have many in common, I have attended many times a SInagogue and many of your celebrations, I had an English Jewish nanny for 13 years and I know many Jews, and I was always surprised of how similar are many of our rites. BTW; when I attend mass each Sunday I hear a lecture of the Old Gospel and another of the New One, and the priest comments both.
wtf are you talking at year 700 we killed all jews in only 10 years and killed jews over 1000 yxears only at year 1946 america stopped it and gived israel a new country and gives them every year 10 billion for millitary you should read more without? america the jews would be death
if you really think your ancestors ruled any part of europe (except for spain a few hundred years ago) then you'd better put down that quran and pick up a history book. Arabs ruled arabia and some surrounding areas... convinced north africa they were arabs and not Amazigh. Canaanites and Philistines have nothing to do with todays Arab "Palestinians".
Actually, most "Palestinians" are of jewish origin and were forced to convert within the last 200 years. look it up.
Islam never was brighter than Christian Europe, that is a myth you've been told, fooled, as all the stufff about Israel. The only place in Europe in which Muslims were for a long time was Spain, you enslaved our people, made us 2nd class citizens in our own country and WE expelled you and sent you back to your desert. You will never destroy us and as soon as you run out of petrol or we develope nuclear & solar energy you will stay in that desert for ever, hanging gays and stoning women.
Count all in Iraq, Afghanista, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt. Its happening since WW1. Zionazi include all Zionists who support and supported creation of Israel.
There was no Muslim in WW2 (66 million dead), There was no Muslim in Congo war (8 million dead), there was no Muslim in Rwanda (1 million dead).
In Muslim countries many problems exist today because of outside interference, Western countries still manipulate their puppet regimes sam ways as they used to do in British colonies.
I support 100% the right of Jews to have their own country and at the same time hate and despise Nazism with all the strenght of my sousl. You will not fool us with your words-game. Nazis and fascists started a war that meant the death of 60 million people, for the struggle between freedom-oppression, not for religion.The new Nazis are you now, we know and you will not have the chance nazis had in WWII. The only civilised things that exist in Muslim countries are western. You are dark & barbaric
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
"The millions of Jews who live in America, England and France, North and South Africa, and, not to forget those in Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end." (The Jewish newspaper, Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederland, September 13, 1939)
You scums have killed all Jews in Europe now you terrorist pigs want to exterminate Muslims with the same propaganda tectics, Its not going to happen, We are going to end all western savagery.
Peterpedant: OF COURSE!!! These abnormals would pay what ever price for the destruccion of Jews and Israel, even if it is the life of their children!!! What can you expect for a "civilization" (actually a non-civilsed gang) which puts explosive belts around their sons' waist? Their hate is beyond our capacity of understanding... we are made of different clay. Actually you know this as well as I do. But it was a good way of showing his sickness.He IS a wicked man,besides ignorant and brainwashed
Those were murderous civilized western people who killed 66 million people in WW2, Those were murderous civilized nations who supported Zionists in stealing of land in Palestine and they are still supporting land grab.
Yes and amazingly, these 'false reports' of Israeli brutality are still to this day, swallowed up with remarkable gullibility by the useful idiots who support Hamas.
cowards and liars all the way, all the arabs do is talk. if we the jews where realy hating the arabs and did a fraction of what one nation out of many did two us they will run to the other end of the earth and forget what they where fighting us for to begin with. and believe me we have the capability to do to them much worse then all nations combined did to us and then some. one day we will get our revenge but first we must know who hates us and who does not, we could read ur mind.with g-d help
horsefeathers87 7 months ago
Islamist drama all the way, the non-muslims in malaysia and southern Thailand are attacked with the same excuses. the islamists need always an agenda to hate their non-muslim neighbour.
GrandmasterTigerfist 8 months ago in playlist Palestine Propaganda: The Middle East
Jews are the most despicable,thieving,lying scum of the earth.Just ask any honest jew,if you can find one.He will actually agree with me.
skogsgud 1 year ago
ive bin to israel, it is a very racist country and there is an aparthaid, the israelis have killed 500 thousand palestinians and destroyed many palestinian villages which left 9 million as refugees ISRAEL IS THE NEW NAZI, ZIONAZI
themightyjoseph 2 years ago
@themightyjoseph Palestinians are not innocent so take your bullshit elsewhere. I wish 500 thousand palestinains were destroyed or dead because that would mean there wont be ANY palestinians left to cause problems. Too bad Palestinians are not a real culture or people they are just JORDANIAN ARABS.
Shinobubu 1 year ago
@Shinobubu ok, you want to play dirty? ok then, i piss on the bodys and ashes of all those who died in the holocaust OW WAIT there was no holocaust IT WAS ONLY A JOKE
themightyjoseph 1 year ago
If all of this was true
The germans are still leaving in their country, so why not the palestinians.
Jason10498 2 years ago
They are, its called JORDAN.
peterpedant 2 years ago
ha ha ha
but jordan is for the jordainians,
palestine for palestinians.
come on man thats like saying
germans should live in holland
Jason10498 2 years ago
Define "Palestinians' for me Jason? Can you find any evidence of these so called "Palestinian people' before 1967? "Palestine" was never a country period. Syria, Jordan All of the above countries were created by Britain and the League of Nations from the remains of the Ottoman Empire in the late 1800s/early 1900s. They are artificial countries with no basis in history.
peterpedant 2 years ago
@peterpedant Define
"Palestinians'
The people with family origins in Palestine which refers to the area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.
There are Muslims , Christians and Jews coming from that area but they are all Palestinians because they came from Palestine.
Israels history started with Zionism which started with Theodor Herzl and the first Zionists that set foot on Palestine in 1885.
Jason10498 2 years ago
A UN mandate created a Pali state and an Israeli one. When the Arabs engaged in a surprise attack against Israel, they lost and in turn lost land. You just have no concept of history, read about it. See the map with the Pali state and Israeli one, look at it after the war of 48' and read before you write you sound like an angry Arab, maybe you are one?
peterpedant 2 years ago
How do you gain independence when you start a war along with the other Arab nations? I don't understand how that can happen. After the war of 48 my friend the Palis lost their "state", simple as that.
peterpedant 2 years ago
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So many questions let me answer them all by a comment from David Ben-Gurion,on the proposed Peel Commission Partition plan as follows in 1937:
"We must EXPEL ARABS and take their places .... and, if we have to use force-not to dispossess the Arabs of the Negev and Transjordan, but to guarantee our own right to settle in those places-then we have force at our disposal."
Jason10498 2 years ago
Interestingly, If you replace the word "Arabs" with the word "Negro" or "non-Arab", you had exactly described what is going on in Sudan, right now, even as I am typing. However, no Muslim or useful idiot leftist appears interested that the Arabs are using war to displace over a million non-Arabs. No Muslim interested to step in to stop the war.
So, is this about justice & fairness, or that you just have a personal agenda to push, just like the rest of the Muslim world? What's your real agenda?
peterpedant 2 years ago
Every time I mention Palestine the Zionist mention the war in Sudan, for the last time: YOU CANNOT HIDE YOUR CRIMES BEHIND SOMEONE ELSES CRIMES.
Secondly idiots who talk about Sudan have no idea about the situation there and use it as a pretext to bash Muslims.
The Dafurians are also Muslims, we are all upset for the war, but the imperialist focuses on that war because they want to rule Sudan for the resources.
the over a million that have been killed are in Iraq my friend not sudan.
Jason10498 2 years ago
I am merely pointing out Muhammadan hypocrisy and double standards. Arabs in Darfur are superior Muslims this is the reason for the ethnic cleansing there.
Anyway what crime? Do you really think your Ben Gurion quote is water tight? Would it stand up to scrutiny? In a court?
Stupid Muhammadan. Your brain is so filled with Quranic nonsense, there is room for little else.
btw 80% of muzzies killed in Iraq are at the hands of their own brothers. a war that has been going on for 1400 years.
peterpedant 2 years ago
@Jason10498 A Zionist still has higher moral standards than Muslims.
Shinobubu 1 year ago
Again the Dafurians are also Muslims, there have been incidents of ethnic clashes, but the colonialists dont want to talk about the Congo genocide, or the war in Yemen almost the same as the Darfur war that no western media sees worth mentioning where the UN calling it a humanitarian crisis. Here is lies the double standard.
Muhammadan hypocrisy ?? Clearly youre an islamaphobe and have a problem with Muslims.
Jason10498 2 years ago
Yes I know Dafurians are also Muslims. So are Shiites but that hasn't stopped them slaughtering each other since the death of Muhammad. And I have no problem with Muslims. Muhammadan Islam is the problem. btw, can you provide your source for the fake Ben Gurion quote please?
peterpedant 2 years ago
@Jason10498 people should fear Islam as it is a religion for pederasts and terrorists. The very words of Mohammed calls for the death of the people of the book. However your comment only proves that Muslims have no problem killing there own so Genocide is not beneath them even amongst there own. For the sake of arguments Shiites considers Sunni's as non believers anyways so In that regard its still ETHNIC cleansing.
Shinobubu 1 year ago
@Shinobubu the problem is not any religion, the problem is colonialism and Settler colonialism impostors posing as religion.Nelson Mandela was also called a terrorist and anti white but his crime was that he wanted his country back from the settlers.Your country Canada also had a indigenous population where are they now? If i did not know Christianity i would called it a Genocide Religion because of what happen in history.But I have understood that a colonialist has no religion.
Jason10498 1 year ago
@Jason10498 In that case, can Christians have Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Morrocco, Lybia, Turkey (and the other half of the Christian Roman empire) back after their 1400 year occupation and colonisation by marauding Muslim settlers?
peterpedant 1 year ago
@peterpedant What occupation ??? The indigenous population cannot occupy themselves.There were Muslim settlers, but there was no Settler colonialism, nor were the indigenous population wiped out
What do u mean give them back ,Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Morrocco, Lybia, Turkey.They never belong to the roman empire in the first place.Nor did North America and South America belong to Europe.
Jason10498 1 year ago
@Jason10498 Oh dear, now you have the unenviable task of proving that the so called 'Palestinians' of today are the indigenous population. Where can one find the recorded history of these people? If they are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them the right for self determination, Why did they not declare their independence between the years of 1948-1967?
peterpedant 1 year ago
@peterpedant generic Arabs collected: you mean serveral million of people where depopulated from the Arab country, which ones exactly? If this is true
Then who was the indigenous population ???
Jason10498 1 year ago
@peterpedant Palestinians are a NATIONALITY aka Citizens of the State of Palestine.
History of the geography called Palestine begins in Exodus where Pelesheth is 1st mentioned.
History of the State of Palestine begins in 1922 with League of Nations Mandate [aka Trusteeship] State of Palestine of non self-governing territory whose sovereign poeers were administrated by United Kingdom as trustee: Sovereignty are retained buy the people aka trustors.
vistavision2 1 year ago
@vistavision2 Absurd premise that Palestinians need to declare Independence:
State of Palestine PRE-EXISTS State of Israel :
1 State of Israel was partitioned from State of Palestine with UNGA 181- UN Charter Article 80 Terms resolute act in accordance with Article 77 "a. Territories now held under mandate" & Article 81 "Organization, itself" as Trusteeship adminsitrator
2 Israels Proclamation of Independence refers to UNGA 181, not once but twice, as it source or sovereignty
vistavision2 1 year ago
Were more than 200 UN SC resolutions passed against Israel because of Muhammadan hypocrisy or was it violation of international law.
Jason10498 2 years ago
Would these be resolutions made by the 52 Arab states who take it in turns on a weekly basis to gang up against Israel? How many UN SC resolutions regarding human rights abuses are the Arab states in violation of? The UN is a worthless and corrupt organisation. Everyone knows that... except for you apparently. LOL!
peterpedant 2 years ago
Iraq is in violation of 2 UN resolutions and gets invaded..israel? attack and kill 34 sailors on the USS Liberty and get billions in US Aid afterwards
texasreb58 2 years ago
The 1 country with historical basis recreated after Ottomans is Israel, it sits on <1% of the MidEast & 30% of the Palestine Province yet the Arabs want this <1% too!
peterpedant 2 years ago
@peterpedant
The evidence of these so called "Palestinian people' before 1967?
United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194, passed on December 11, 1948 issued by UN Envoy Folke Bernadotte
If you read Article 11 Refugees he refers to the people as Palestinians
These countries that u mentioned have been there even before the ottoman rule,
Jason10498 2 years ago
No one robbed land from so-called 'Palestinians' or invaded. The UN Parttition Resolution set up a small state for Jews in Palestine, including many sephardic Jews indigenous to palestine
Palestine would have been larger in 1948 than any Palestinian could ever imagine now. Why is there no Palestine now? Why dont you talk to the 5+ invading Arab armies that tried to exterminate Israel as a newborn state!
talk to the 5 arab armies that attacked, not Israel
peterpedant 2 years ago
@peterpedant
but what really is artificial are settler states where Europeans occupy a country and transfer there people there and drive away the native population of that area, like Israel, Apartheid South Africa, Australia ,USA u get the idea.
Jason10498 2 years ago
@peterpedant
The Palestinians are not asking for all their country back, they are not asking for the villages now in ruins that have been emptied to be re-filled again, they are asking for a land recognized by international to build as their own state.
Jason10498 2 years ago
Jason,
The Palestinians are calling for killing all Jews, and pushing them into the sea. The PLO and Hamas both teach the kids and use the symbol of their land, as Israel in its entirety. To not know this, is just showing your lack of information, education, and your laziness in not leaning that the Palis want every last inch of Israel, and the death of all Jews, Xtains and others.
abbienetvision 2 years ago
Strange thing: the Palestinian Arabs "recall" that they are "The People" and that they need "A State", only when they live on the territories controlled by Israel. But as soon as any other nation controls these territories, these same Palestinian Arabs, together with the "International Community", immediately forget about this.
Can you explain, why this is?
peterpedant 2 years ago
Wow so many questions let me answer all of them with a comment from Ben-Gurion on the proposed Peel Commission Partition plan as follows in 1937:
"We must EXPEL ARABS and take their places .... and, if we have to use force-not to dispossess the Arabs of the Negev and Transjordan, but to guarantee our own right to settle in those places-then we have force at our disposal."
Jason10498 2 years ago
Interestingly, If you replace the word "Arabs" with the word "Negro" or "non-Arab", you had exactly described what is going on in Sudan, right now, even as I am typing. However, no Muslim or useful idiot leftist appears interested that the Arabs are using war to displace over a million non-Arabs. No Muslim interested to step in to stop the war.
Is this about justice & fairness, or that you just have a personal agenda to push, just like the rest of the Muslim world? What's your real agenda?
peterpedant 2 years ago
Jason,
What is a Palestinian, up until 1967, there was no such thing, and prior to Israel becoming a state, a Palestinian was a Jew living in the area called Palestine.
The newspaper the Palestinian Post, after Israel was established changed its name to the Jerusalem Post, which you can find info from, prior to Israel when it was the Palestinian Post.
Palestinians are not native to the land of Israel, this is proven through many means.
abbienetvision 2 years ago
2nd: Until the Muslims & Arabs dont accept Palestinian refugees in their countries, give them fully rights and citizenship, until they dont stop using them as a propaganda tools for their goal of destructing Israel, until they dont stop using their children as bombs or terrorists I cant care less about all them. This is not hate, but common sense and setting clear rules for co-existence,.. besides thinking, that is Muslim propaganda is useless with me.
asunagullo 2 years ago
Israel is Palestinian land and no body could change that, If 4 million Jews could go to Israel from Europe than why not native population ? If Arabs accept defeat today than other will start claiming some other land same way, There is no end for this.
lonovik 2 years ago
About Palestine:Until the so called Palestinians, prove the rest of the world they are willing to live peacefully alongside with Jews,until they accept the existence of the State of Israel, until they stop & even prosecute Hamas, whichs declared goal is killing all Jews, until they stop any form of terrorism, until they accept the opportunities the world gives them for peace, they will go on living in a cesspool, and concerning to what I think, they can go on stewing in their own juice.
asunagullo 2 years ago
"rest of the world "
What world are you talking about ? Are you talking about Few European nations and Amerikkka ? They only got less than 5% of world's population so their opinion does not matter, All that matter is return of Palestinians and return of Palestinian land.
lonovik 2 years ago
No we are talking about the rest of the non believing kufar world. thats around 80% of humanity.
peterpedant 2 years ago
According to the grand mufti of Jerusalem, it would violate Islamic law for even one inch of Palestine to be controlled by Jews. yep and who gave us that law... humans with to much time on there hand's.... religion is bullshit middle easterns myths lies all of it...fuck islam...fuck christ...hail satan hahaha
oldirtydoggie 2 years ago
All started from myth of "God given land".
lonovik 2 years ago
All started form the dreams of a physoctic who nearly commited suicide (what a lost opportunity for humankind) but was convinced by his wife he was a prophet.. that, his crazyness, the illiteracy of Arab men and many barabaric traditions lead us to the point in which we are now. We will have to stop you, before you destroy our civilization.
asunagullo 2 years ago
yep
oldirtydoggie 2 years ago
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Nuke Israel and get rid of all Zionazis.
lonovik 2 years ago
"Nuke Israel"
So you would advocate the murder of thousands of innocent Palestinian, Egyptian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian children who live in the surrounding areas? I suppose that would be OK wouldn't it, because they would all be martyrs ?
You evil man. You wicked wicked evil man. You obviously follow Satan and hells hottest fires await you! :)
peterpedant 2 years ago
Take out every body except Zionists and than nuke them, Eazy.
If Zionists have no problem killing millions of people for their so called "God given land", Why should we care.
They have caused so many wars in that area because of their religious belief.
lonovik 2 years ago
yes that's right ALL of them have caused wars because of their religious belief haven't they? Every Jewish man woman & child. But Muslims are peaceful and have never caused any wars in that area because of their religious beliefs. How do you suppose the Muslims come to be in that area in the first place, or has that never occurred to you? dunce!
Pretty soon we will have the technology to hunt savages like you down. I want to enlist for that job. I would work 11 hours a day for free.
peterpedant 2 years ago
There is no Muslim army in Western countries or any body else's land, but there are armies from almost every western countries in Muslim lands, Israel is also illegal occupation. these western armies are fighting Zionists wars most of times, They support illegal settlements of Jewish people, They support illegal land stealing by Jewish people.
Arabs supported West against Turks because they wanted freedom for their lands, but what did they get ? More occupations, land stealing.
lonovik 2 years ago
There is no Muslim army, because Muslims don't fight as men do, you only know how to put bombs in trains or restaurants or launch missiles over schools... that is the legendary Arab manhood... I am laughing my head off!!! We had to go to your cesspools after you killed us, as in Afghanistan. BTW as you are ALL illiterate you don't know a word of history, nor history of ME nor the world's history.There are tens of people with no country and they don't kill others: Tibetians, Kurds, Saharauis...
asunagullo 2 years ago
How you coward fight ? 30 armies against one country , Is it fair fight ?
When Israel fights, Britain, USA, Israel helps them with weapons, ship, transporation.
Iraq was attacked by 30 Western thug countries.
You coward people drop bombs on schools, hospitals from 30000 feet in Sky.
Go look at Congo, Rwanda, Colombia, India (Naxals), Sri Lanka, You look like complete moron to me.
lonovik 2 years ago
We have never really fought with you bastards since the Crusaders. But we will fight again, and you will know what we are able to do when we are really angry. Remember Japon? a real Empire? the best army of the world? well, HER emperor literally kneed after USA had finished with them.. we have been holding our anger because we can destroy all you in one day....exactly as Israel with those palestinians if they wanted to do so
asunagullo 2 years ago
How funny your are!!! Irak was attacked softly trying to avoid to kill civilians... in the same way Jews try to avoid the death of civilians... But they anyway died, because Sunnies use to kill Shiats in markets and Mosques and viceversa. Killing people is the Muslim national sport. ... so if they can't kill us, they kill between them. 99,9% of Muslims killed in the world die at Muslim hands. We are not thugs but stronger, West is the strongest militar power in the world.
asunagullo 2 years ago
About Congo & Rwanda, no deaths for religous reasons.Colombia: comunist terrorism.. not religion. Sri lanka: Budist; Hinduist, Muslim & only 6% Christian; another racial conflict between Tamiles & cingaleses. India: Naxals, that is communists... what connection have any of these conflicts with Christian religion? when did people die there because of Christian religion?BTW WE NEVER ATTACK HOSPITALS OR SCHOOLS, but you do so & invent we do it also in order to make us look as immoral as you are.
asunagullo 2 years ago
Hey!!! you ar a smart guy, aren't you? I've counted 9 times kill and 5 times death in your profile.. what is for sure is you are an example of the "religion of peace", of the ignorance and illiteracy of their followers, the blind hate for Jews and Amercians and the sickness of your ideology ( if we can call that a heap of hate with no idea but death, and no reasoning but Alla's will)
asunagullo 2 years ago
lonovik: 1st Where are those "millions" of people Zionists have killed?? you should buy a History book and study a bit... too much Quram is harming your brain!!! As far as History knows millions of Jews were killed during WWII while they didn't kill anybody. Millions of Muslims have been killed and are still killed by other Muslims, sunnis kill shiats, and viceversa,Jordans killed Plestinians in black september,men kill women, Imans kill gays, Talibans kill everybody, Muslim terrorists kill US,
asunagullo 2 years ago
lovonik: 2nd:Hamas kill All Fatah,you all kill apostats,Iranians kill Iraqis & viceversa, Sudaneese "arabs" kill sudaneese blacks (despite they are all black & Muslims), not to talk about Muslim Somalies Militias... Ohh! Yes! You ARE the religion of peace! SO when Jews are fed up of dying because of your suicide bombers they build a wall, & you whimper,if they don't want to die because of Hamas rockets,they attack back,kill 1500 people including 600 terrorists & you call them killers..I see!
asunagullo 2 years ago
There was no Hamas before 1987.
There is no Muslim in Congo where Christians have killed 8 millions.
There was no Muslim in Rwada where christians have massacred 1 million.
Zionists are target because they stole the land, They are thieves. They have no right to be there. What would you do if some body kick you out from your home and starts living there ?
lonovik 2 years ago
Palestinians started killing Jews long before Hamas was born. Yasser Arafat was a criminal, who deared to threaten the whole word at UN. 4 million died in Congo and 2 in Rwanda due to racist-tribal wars. Religion was not involved in that. Nobody killed anybody in the name of Jesus. Jews are the ones who have the right to live there. israel is the only indpendent country that has existed in that land. Muslims didn't accept the partition in 1948 because they wanted all. They started a war and lost
asunagullo 2 years ago
Jews were killing Christian long before Islam came into existence, They massacred 40,000 Christians in Yemen in 532 CE, Palestinians are fighting for their own land, 95% Jews are Immigrans in Israel. They have no right on that land, they will be kicked out sooner or later, No body in world could stop that, not even all Western thugs.
lonovik 2 years ago
Isn't is funny??? you are talking about killing people in Yemen. OK, YOU killed the Jews of Yemen who didn't accept to convert to your cult, in the 1165 and 1678 and again in 1948. (55.000 Jews in 1948, 200 nowadays, after you criminals, started a pogrom in Aden when Israel was stablished again as a country. That moved the Israel Goverment to the operation: Magic Carpet" translating 50,000 Jews in order to save them for your claws. Jews didn't kill Christians in the 532... you are kidding
asunagullo 2 years ago
5 Arab nation declared the war to Israel the day after the new state was born. Palestine is a myth, never existed. At the same time 800,000 Muslims left ISrael (as their masters, the other Arabs told them to do), 800,000 Jews were expelled from countries in which they had lived for centuries before Mohammed was born. They had to leave all their belongings. 1,5 million Muslims live nowadays in Israel with better rights than they have in any Muslim country
asunagullo 2 years ago
It was because of same 5 Arab nations Israel came into existence , those Arab cowards helped British thugs in destroying their own people Turks in the name of freedom, but they later enslaved Arabs. If those stupid Arabs would have not faught against Turks, There was no chance in world that Israel could have been installed there.
lonovik 2 years ago
Yes and if my grandmother had balls she would be my grandfather.!!! History as it is. Israel exists, thank God, and you will have to accept that fact. In the same way we have to stand the fact that a psycotic man who heared voices and claimed to know God's words created an army of illiterate violent lecehrous men dreaming with 72 virgins which destroyed all East Roman Empire, pulling down all that area and sending it back to middle ages...nor to talk about Persia..which WAS a real culture!
asunagullo 2 years ago
Israel never existed more than 200 years, Pagans destroyed it, Romans destroyed it, Christians destroyed it all by grace of same mighty God.
It will happen again, may be in 10,20, 30,40 or 100 years, No body could stop stop it. Those Arabs will be punished for their treachery.
When Europe was living in dark ages, it was Islam which created modern civilization in middle east, but later western thugs destroyed, those thugs will be kicked out soon.
lonovik 2 years ago
Israel was an independent country since the 1200BC to the 720 in the North (kingdom of Israel) and the 586Bc in the south when the kingdom of Judah was conquered by the Babylon Empire. After that they have had short periods of sovereign.Jews independent kingdom lasted more than 400 years.
In the year 1200 BC Philistines established in the south of Canaan and what today is Gaza. The name of Palestine comes from the name of Philistines. They were from a place in the Egeo sea (Greek)
asunagullo 2 years ago
"Israel was an independent country since the 1200BC to the 720"
My Ancestors ruled Europe 6000 BC , could I claim Europe now ?
Yes there were Canaanites before Jews, There is no place in world where population change did not happen through conquest or emigration or immigration.
lonovik 2 years ago
Your ancestors??? come on!! Do you mean black people from Africa??? you are kidding me!!! Palestine? a myth, recently invented. There is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, only common Arabs, or a Palestinian culture, show me a single Palestinian writer or historician or scientific... no they only grow terrorists, there is no Palestinian language, only Arabic, no Palestinian state in any time of history. Arabs came into the Land of Israel one century ago to counteract Jewish immigration.
asunagullo 2 years ago
Myth or not , Palestinians used to live on that land before creation of Israel, and 95% of Jews are immigrants to Israel, so that proves all. It doesn't matter if Palestinians lived there for 100 years, 200 years or 1000 years. What matters is that all those Israeli Jews are immigrants and Palestinians are not.
Yes If Jew wanted immigration like they in united states than there was no problem, they came there to steal the land from others.
lonovik 2 years ago
can you prove that "Palestinians used to live on that land before creation of Israel"?
peterpedant 2 years ago
Yes, they came 15 minutes before Jews.... so we need to know the excat time they arrived in order to know if they are immigrants or no.... I am laughing my head off!!! the so called Palestinians are common arabs who emigrated at the time Jews did.....but you forget many Jews were there since 4000 years ago.
asunagullo 2 years ago
yes thats right asunagullo, and we know this because of the wealth of historical evidence such as Palestinian archaeological sites, monuments, temples, manuscripts, achievements etc etc all of which can be easily provided by lonovik ! Right ?? LOL!! :)
peterpedant 2 years ago
While Europe has a clear and well defined history, the one which has shaped the world as we know today. Our world ( I mean civilised world) is based in Greek-Roman culture: art, architecture, phylosophy, laws, democracy, etc.. and Jew-Christian values. BTW don't worry so much about Palestine and worry about your own country,a disaster in which children starve in the streets...mmm I think it will be better if you don't claim Europe now.
asunagullo 2 years ago
Yes your so called civilized world who killed 66 million people in WW2, 1.5 million in Algeria, 3 millions in Vietnam, Where racism still exists, support for illegal occupations still exists. Your Judeo- Christian value makes you belive in "God given land" myth, and incites you for hatred for others, occupation of their land and cleasing of local population.
lonovik 2 years ago
My civilised world is 1000 years light distance from your shit cesspool. Illegal occupation.. what a joke!!! all what exists in ME and Muslim countries would be illegal in Europe or USA and it is obviously immoral.
asunagullo 2 years ago
270 million non-muslims have been slaughtered in the last 1,400 years by Islamic Jihadist - 10 million Buddhist, 60 million Christians, 80 million Hindus, and 120 million African Kuffars and I haven't even begun listing Muslims slaughtered fellow Muslims. If you want to start with moral equivalence Islam loses. EVERYTIME!
peterpedant 2 years ago
270 trillion people slaughtered by Christian Crusaders in last 20 centuries,
100 trillion Muslims, 110 trillion Americans, remaining 150 trillion in different colonies of crusaders.
There is no evidence that Islam slaughtered any body.
lonovik 2 years ago
Islam is the Ideology & the cause, Muslims did all the dirty work for Allah.
Q2:216 Fighting is ordained for you (lonovik), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and you know not."
Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."
Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
peterpedant 2 years ago
I reacted to this.
"There is no evidence that Islam slaughtered any body. "
Gunnar125 2 years ago
Oops, My apologies Gunner125? :)
peterpedant 2 years ago
uuuuh, wow. Your comment won the awards for "Worst comment in the history of youtube".
Gunnar125 2 years ago
plenty of evidence, Over 100 million Hindu;s for starters,
Dont pretend Islam is peace and morality, islam is nazism
Muhammedloveskids 2 years ago
just to clarify, judeo-christian values do not exist. Christian thought and imperialism do not represent me nor zionism--although it may be better than the alternative. (sorry for replying 5 months late)
bocanutz 2 years ago
I am sorry to tell you,THERE IS something similar to "Jew-Christian" values, we follow the same 10 comandments you do, we follow the Old Gospel, your Torah and Tanaj, we believe in the same values & principles. Imperialism is a political issue which can't be judged under the eyes of religion exclusively because life is not so simple, in the same way your fight in Israel with the so called Palestinians is not just a matter of religion...and they also say you are imperialist..& even worse things!
asunagullo 2 years ago
Bocanuz, the fact that you don't feel close to Christians is just a personal oppinion, which can't hide the fact that we, Christians, are heirs of Jews, and we atke after our ancestors.. You may not feel close to Christians, but the Jews I've met here and with whom I have friendship do feel close to us in the same way I feel close to Jews. The seek of personal improvement, the love for your nearest, ....
asunagullo 2 years ago
I don't want to argue too much especially because I mostly agree. Christians as a group have kept some of the jewish books but give them a lower status and call them "old". Christians are also not genetically related to Jews, with the exception of a few early christians, as most are converts.
To say Jews are not the sole heirs of Jews is insulting. The children of Israel are jews and will always be jews and have not given their inheritance to an unrelated ethnic or religious group.
bocanutz 2 years ago
Bocanutz. You are right I am an ally of you, Jews and of Israel as a state. Actually Muslims use to get very angrey with me because I use to say I am Zionist because I defend the rightof Jews to live in the land of the Old Hebrews. And, dear bocanutz, "Old" is just because they were there since long time ago. In the same way Old Gospel is because it was written first, before New one, which i not too new either because it has 2,000 years :-)
asunagullo 2 years ago
Same here, I get attacked to for trying to defend Jews when someone comes up and says kill all Jews. I tell them that is wrong and they blantantly attack me as some sort of Jew-loving Zionist. Since when was Zionist a bad word?
Tom101229 2 years ago
You have misunderstood me, when I say Christians are heirs of Jews I mean our religion and culture is heir, comes from Judaism. It is not a legal inheritance but a "cultural" one...religion, values and principles.
WE, Westerns are also heirs of Romans, that is we have an influence in laws, language, art, architecture, etc... it doesn't mean that I want a plot in Rome :-))) Actually I consider saying we are heirs of Jews is a tribute not an insult.
asunagullo 2 years ago
i was talking about a familial lineage, which i suppose is also a legal one. I understand your point and agree but i still feel its best to limit the use of the phrase judeo-christian or any variant thereof. There are many, many Judeo-Islamic values, but people would rather see jews as westerners than middle-easterners. this is something that has weakened the jews' claim to the land of israel. the black-hatters... fine, i'll consider them westerners because they dress like medieval pollocks.
bocanutz 2 years ago
That is the only issue I have. I am happy to be your friend and welcome christians as allies, but I want to make it clear that we are not the same and that Jewish tradition is not Christian tradition. Jewish tradition is a set of 613 laws in our hebrew Torah, along with many customs and teachings. Christian texts are mainly the New Testament and rulings by popes, priests and other clergymen.
bocanutz 2 years ago
I do not mean to offend you at all. I am only saying these things because i consider you to be an ally and i want us to understand our relationship with one another.
bocanutz 2 years ago
Bocanutz: you have not offended me at all. Obviously we have different traditions and different customs, but we also have many in common, I have attended many times a SInagogue and many of your celebrations, I had an English Jewish nanny for 13 years and I know many Jews, and I was always surprised of how similar are many of our rites. BTW; when I attend mass each Sunday I hear a lecture of the Old Gospel and another of the New One, and the priest comments both.
asunagullo 2 years ago
wtf are you talking at year 700 we killed all jews in only 10 years and killed jews over 1000 yxears only at year 1946 america stopped it and gived israel a new country and gives them every year 10 billion for millitary you should read more without? america the jews would be death
AttackTheGasStation2 2 years ago
if you really think your ancestors ruled any part of europe (except for spain a few hundred years ago) then you'd better put down that quran and pick up a history book. Arabs ruled arabia and some surrounding areas... convinced north africa they were arabs and not Amazigh. Canaanites and Philistines have nothing to do with todays Arab "Palestinians".
Actually, most "Palestinians" are of jewish origin and were forced to convert within the last 200 years. look it up.
bocanutz 2 years ago
Islam never was brighter than Christian Europe, that is a myth you've been told, fooled, as all the stufff about Israel. The only place in Europe in which Muslims were for a long time was Spain, you enslaved our people, made us 2nd class citizens in our own country and WE expelled you and sent you back to your desert. You will never destroy us and as soon as you run out of petrol or we develope nuclear & solar energy you will stay in that desert for ever, hanging gays and stoning women.
asunagullo 2 years ago
Count all in Iraq, Afghanista, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt. Its happening since WW1. Zionazi include all Zionists who support and supported creation of Israel.
There was no Muslim in WW2 (66 million dead), There was no Muslim in Congo war (8 million dead), there was no Muslim in Rwanda (1 million dead).
In Muslim countries many problems exist today because of outside interference, Western countries still manipulate their puppet regimes sam ways as they used to do in British colonies.
lonovik 2 years ago
I support 100% the right of Jews to have their own country and at the same time hate and despise Nazism with all the strenght of my sousl. You will not fool us with your words-game. Nazis and fascists started a war that meant the death of 60 million people, for the struggle between freedom-oppression, not for religion.The new Nazis are you now, we know and you will not have the chance nazis had in WWII. The only civilised things that exist in Muslim countries are western. You are dark & barbaric
asunagullo 2 years ago
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
lonovik 2 years ago
"The millions of Jews who live in America, England and France, North and South Africa, and, not to forget those in Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end." (The Jewish newspaper, Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederland, September 13, 1939)
You scums have killed all Jews in Europe now you terrorist pigs want to exterminate Muslims with the same propaganda tectics, Its not going to happen, We are going to end all western savagery.
lonovik 2 years ago
Peterpedant: OF COURSE!!! These abnormals would pay what ever price for the destruccion of Jews and Israel, even if it is the life of their children!!! What can you expect for a "civilization" (actually a non-civilsed gang) which puts explosive belts around their sons' waist? Their hate is beyond our capacity of understanding... we are made of different clay. Actually you know this as well as I do. But it was a good way of showing his sickness.He IS a wicked man,besides ignorant and brainwashed
asunagullo 2 years ago
Those were murderous civilized western people who killed 66 million people in WW2, Those were murderous civilized nations who supported Zionists in stealing of land in Palestine and they are still supporting land grab.
lonovik 2 years ago
Ionovik, nuke yourself first, baby!
Kurtlane 2 years ago
Thanks for the video, another interesting example of the hypocrisy of Muslims in all this issue.
asunagullo 2 years ago
Yes and amazingly, these 'false reports' of Israeli brutality are still to this day, swallowed up with remarkable gullibility by the useful idiots who support Hamas.
peterpedant 2 years ago
This needs to be covered by major media .
slLLyhumans 2 years ago
LOL! yeah what do you think the chances of that are? :)
peterpedant 2 years ago