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  • tl;dr but I suspect this is Albanian nationalism disguised as "true" linguistics that seeks to overcome the "failures" of PIE theory. *sigh* Amiriteoramirite?

  • no i'm not, i'm a chicken! PAKAAAAK!!!

  • Pelasgians - Illyrians - Albanians = The Oldest People of Europe . We have the oldest language of indo-european race

  • there was no 1 "Indo European" "pre" language...

  • assyrianzowapride arab sandniggers are not allowed to write here.

  • Proto-Indo-European and even Indo-European is a thought created by western dreamers to claim the Turkic Civilisation as their own.

  • @IdelUralState Are you mental man ? Nobody wants to claim your Turkic civilization

    Jesus fucking Christ,that will be the last thing to claim.

  • @tirpitz19 It begins with the Lie about the Scythians and it goes on with the Invention of the Greek Foundation of Civilisation.

  • @IdelUralStatelol turkic civilazation?

    yes santa too XD

    scythians-sarmatians-sakas-ala­ns all iranian all spoke iranian languages

    mesopotamians were mesopotamians

    i understand that you are ashamed of your race and want to be a part of others but sorry your turkish

  • You get Monotheism from Tengri so shut up. There has been ample Archaeological and Anthropological facts to support just the opposite, that a Indo-European nomadic tribe never existed. This will ever be fact. Something called Indo-European never existed. It is just a dream of those who imaged a so called "civilizing" *Haha* theory to hide their inferiority-feeling towards Tuks. Nothing else. But thanks to Roman and Greek Gypsies we haven't much documents, but those are enough to show the truth.

  • @IdelUralState it´s proven that they existed none of the indo-european languages nor semitic are close to your (inkulsive scythian-sarmatian-sakas-alans­) none of them are close to your i`m assyrian when i her a turk speaking i swear to jesus i litteraly hear some mongolian dialect or something like that and i don`t understand a shit that explains a very good deal bro

  • There has been ample Archaeological and Anthropological facts to support just the opposite, that a Indo-European nomadic tribe never existed. This will ever be fact. Something called Indo-European never existed. It is just a dream of those who imaged a so called "civilizing" *Haha* theory to hide their inferiority-feeling towards Tuks. Nothing else. But thanks to Roman and Greek Gypsies we haven't much documents, but those are enough to show the truth.

  • @IdelUralState bullshit bullshit not even gypsies want to be in your group lol turkic XD

    you have no proof little boy nothing..........turkish civilazation? the only thing you turks have ever done is doing genocides on us and claiming others history

    XD hahhaha your just pathetic and whos a sandnigger? me or you from the mongolian desert? i think i have proven my points.

  • @IdelUralState i didn`t see any proof or anything in that read my previous comment.

  • @IdelUralState Turk language is an old language without any doubts, but old Prakrit (pre-Sanskrit) language was the oldest on this planet, from it derived also other languages...including Semitic. Turk language has also influence of "Sanskrit" language... there were people living in communities in peace as allies in the north (and yes i do not agree with modern "western" history (based on Torah and Bible stories)

  • @DRARD17 We have TRAI meaning LIFE or to live and a dozen more meanings related to this word..but funny enough I never made a conection to the roman emperor Traianus,the guy that destroyed the thracian language and killed alot of men.It's almost ironic that his name means in a sense LIFE,I thought that his name comes from the legend of Troy..who knows?One historian said he was thracian,but I don't know!

  • @DRARD17 If you are refering to THOTH,egyptian deity,yes I know..but it's considered a semitic constuct,although,knowing the legend you could say that your verb THOTH explains a lot.Could be a cognate to the verb TO TEACH and explains also why Thoth was considered the god teaching the magic arts and script.I am reading a book lately that takes in consideration a semitic language influenced alot the British isles and germanic people in language.

  • @DRARD17 If your BOJE means color ,we have a word..actually a verb A boi =to die,to smudge

  • @DRARD17 We also have a similar word to your HIR with the same meaning(Har) but also HARNIC=hard worker,industrious.HIRI=GREY COLOR IS ALMOST THE SAME AS ROMANIAN SUR=ALSO GREY..could be that some of your words have a centum isogloss and romanian satem(but only for ancient lexic)

  • @DRARD17 I forgot to tell you that the ancient sun god is still kept today under the name ILIE (isnt this close to Illion the sun?)from the biblical Elijah.It is still kept his image as flying through the sky in a chariot throwing thunder bolts to anyone working in his day.Diana is called SÂNZIANA meaning Holly DIANA or simply ZÂNA.There was a mail deity called ZÂNUL but is still kept only in dialect of the aromanians(vlach)...I know a word ZANG that means echo or the sound of metal on metal-

  • @DRARD17 Do you have in albanian the word TROJAN meaning PALISADE(a mound of rubble and dirt encircling a fortress) or trojan meaning snow mound? ITs suspicious to have this word when relates to a well known fortress of myth..bulgarians have this word but sure is not slavic if its missing from the rest of the slavic world

  • @DRARD17 DIJE could be cognate with sanskrit DOKSHA(science,wisdom),or the greek DOXA(spelled DOKSHA or DOCSHA) that gave ORTODOX meaning The RIGHT FAITH(funny that romanian has a word ortoman that means rich and also ORTO=MONEY,but are archaic today).If folum means to talk,is very close to portugues word TO TALK(FALOU or fallau).In romanian we have A SE FĂLI(a verb) meaning TO BRAG,TO BOOST YOU EGO and also FALNIC(MAJESTIC,GRAND)We may have a lot in comun with this lexical thing

  • @DRARD17 You know that all romanians called GOD by the name ZEU or ZĂU in our first translationes of the Bible? Later on we used DUMNEZEU meaning THE LORD GOD like in DOMINUS DEUS ..but will also have ZIUĂ meaning DAY=so ZEU means THE LIGHT BRINGER// I wonder if ancient greeks had the same meanings cause is a bit strage for them to use THEOS and DIOS and not directly ZEUS

  • @DRARD17 The similarity stops a little at the word SUN cause in romanian is closer to greeko-roman world..romanian has SOARE(meaaning SUN) witch is closer to sanskrit SURYA(also sun) then latin SOL(SUN).It's weird also that greeks had Hellios(SUN) and latin had SOLIS,but if you drop the H from Hellios your get ILLIOS/ ILLION witch is the original trojan (dardanic people)name for the city TROY..this is why The ILLIAD IS CALLED LIKE THIS.PS:A THRACIAN CITY FROM THE DANUBE WAS CALLED HELIS

  • In romanian we have A MĂSURA(to measure) , MASĂ(table) and ÎN MASĂ(IN MASS) same as in english/latin. There was a thracian (maybe schytian) tribe called MASSAGETES in what is today Ukraine,could it be that MASS refered to the size of the tribe?

  • @DRARD17 We have a similar word for DJEG,even sounds the same as yours A DOGORÂ=TO BURN VERY HOT(BUT RELATED TO SUNS HEAT,NOT FIRE BURN) and also DOGOARE=HOT AIR,HOT ENVIROMENT LIKE IN A DESERT wich is the exact word for the last two days..sure feels like in a desert to me

  • My oppinion is that albanian is an archaic dialect preserved in the mountains ,but don't use english as an ex.because the construction of this "lingua franca"has huge borrowings of latin from french(normands)and church writings.I enjoyed your argument for mas/math-could be .PS:PJEKUR sounds a lot like romanian păcurar=shepherd from latin pecora=sheep.Could it be that your word is a derivation from shepherd but indicating an experienced man,a father figure,mature and wise etc?

  • I doubt that HAP=step is even IE because in romanian(hop) has the same meaning(and many other derivationes) but is considered an onomatopeic construct..and also there's PI=DRINK ,though,in romanian,PICURA=raining with small drops and PICA=to drop down..un pic=very small,tinny and finally PIC PIC is onomatopeic for FALLING DROPS OF WATER.HAP and PI could be native only to the Balkans

  • @DRARD17 Unfortunately, alb with 3.6 mil inhabitans & troubled history was ignored by science, politics etc. Very sadly so bcuze linguistically, alb must be extremely fascinating to research

    Yes, ther´s some analogy to Greek that is isolate as well

    Very likely that albanians mixed up with the ancient europeans who spoke their lang that disappeared & was replaced by proto alb speakers

    Otherwise it´s only Basque that survived prior to IE

  • @kajro57 I know albanians were a illiryc tribe but I wonder if the latin albus=white is the root word for Albania.In ancient time,the mountain were called "white" for obviouse reasons..an ex. is The Alps coming from Albus with the P to B exchange in the faliscan dialect.Also there was a dacian(thracian) tribe called albocenses in S-W of Romania that left behind a city Alboca..could it be that alb/albus is also balkanic? What is your language says about it?

  • @DRARD17 Thank YOU! That´s a lot of stuff to look into I will do it in as far as my time will allow (it means looooong time:) the sad truth is: ask 10 europeans, 9 of them know zero about Albania :( they wouldn´t be ablo to find it on the map

    a couple of yrs ago I knew an albanian, his name "Berisha". No kidding, I swear My theory was that all the alb politicians belong either to anwaur hodsca or Berisha clans ...

  • @DRARD17 Genetics? Give me the name of the genetic survey of the alb population. What does it say? I want to see it for myself Your lang is isolate but your territory was run over hundreds of times by the adjacent greeks, slavs, italics, turks, magyars you r probably as blended as everybody else in Europe

  • @DRARD17 Albanian lang is an early IE "isolate" with no apparent kinship to any other IE modern lang. Possibly mixed up with some pre IE european lang. We just don´t know. the relative western location of alb & its unlikness to other IE points at early arrival of the alb speakers, prior to balt-slavic, germ & italic

  • "Measure" comes from French (not Albanian), French comes from Latin, Latin could have influenced Albanian for these words - as it has done actually, in many other cases -

  • I feel like you'd make good creationist videos.

  • You're pretty much right. Except that some say the Finnish language may be associated with Basque as the Finnish language was there before the Indo-Europeans came to Europe as well. I know VERY LITTLE about that stuff so I'll abstain from further comments on that.

    But thanks for your reply.

  • This is the most riveting linguistics video I've ever seen.

  • What about the Basque language???

  • What a bunch of crap!

    I hope u yourselves don't take it seriously, do you?

    Don't be delusional, exercise instead some common sense and ability to rational approach

  • Are you a linguist?

  • yes I am & i find it extremely annoying when linguistic is abused for some confused & ridiculous nationalist message

    Vowel change is the most tangible feature of ProtoIE morphology

    german messen-mass

    polisch mierzyc-miara

    swedish mäta-mått

    secondly, looking in "shqiperia" for some "logic" for the meaning of words is

    unnecessary

    corruption & dysfunctionality in alb society is enough dont mess up with languages

    yes, i know mother Theresa was albanian

  • Hey, don t try to say that English comes from Albanian. It s like saying that a birch comes from an oak.

  • @janidiot ALb as IE is a long shot anyway look at the list of frequent words:

    Latin mensis, novus, nasus, mater

    Sanskrit mãs, nava, nãs, matar

    Persian mãh, nau, bini, mãdar

    Lithuanian méno, naujas, nosis,motina

    albanian muaj, iri, nundë, nëne

    basque hilabethe, berri, südür, ama

  • te lumt dora

  • flm per postimin Lona. Kjo me duket nje pune e realizuar me seriozitet. Pershendetje gj forumit dhe ne vecanti krijuesit te videos.

  • nje pune e shkelqyer,,nje vidjio impressive dhe do thosha profesiinale.... flmnd arberiaonline falmnd topallia 4 sharing..god bless Albanians

  • Pershendetje @eduakrishtin.Besoj se ne forumin qe permendet ne video mund te kontaktosh studiuesin qe ka hulumtuar ne kete drejtim.Besoj se gjene e vetme qe ne mund te bejme eshte te hedhim dhe mbrojme teorine dhe tezat tona,pasi tek gjuha shqipe fshihet edhe e verteta jone.Respekte.

  • pune e shkelqyer

  • Magjik :)

  • fq 391,Antropologu greke ,Ari N,Pulianosi ,ne botimin e trete te vepres se vete (Prejardhja e grekeve)" Athine 1968" pohone."Popullsia me e vjeter e Greqis ,siç thone veprat e lashta ,ishin pellazget ,nje popull qe nuk fliste greqisht .Emri i tyre u ruajt ne faltoren e moçme te Zeusit pellazg te Dodones dhe ne fushen e Thesalise ose Pellazgjis.Sofokliu e quan Dodonen ,ndertim pellazg.

  • Fq 361,Keta emra muajsh demostrojne se "Pellazgjishtja s'kishte pushuar kurre pa u perdorur ,edhe me shkrim ,te pakten qe nga mijvjeçari II,p,e,s deri ne agim te eres sone

  • fq 361.Pellazget ,Origjina Jone e Mohuar:Dr/Prof Dhimiter Pilika. Pas deshmive te diodorit se alfabeti pellazg ishte i vetmi ne poezine evriopiane para homerit apo Plinit (Plaku) se ky alfabet u çua deri ne Lacium nga pellazget .Sipas pohimeve te herodotit ,Tukiditit ,Platonit,me shoke se Pellazgjishtja gjallonte akoma ne Ballkan gjate shek te V -IV p,e,s; pas zbulimit te mbishkrimeve ne Lemons Italia e Jugut, Mesape) dhe s'efundi edhe atyre "Te Platitura" te Epirit Grek .Flm

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