Cenk claims he is a former Muslim in which case why is he alive? apostates are killed in Islam.
This guy is a lying piece of trash he loves pulling the race card against republicans but excuses racism when his own do it (Turkish news achor in blackface)
I must disagree with Cenk, but his analogy is flawed. It's more like equating all Christians with the IRA. You can't say it's like equating them to one person, but you can say it's like equating them to another terrorist group.
any christian IRA analogy is flawed.. 'cos they couldn't square their actions with jesus. I saw sinn fein discuss the problem iin a program on the bible. mohammed and jesus are very different. Mohammed had a woman stoned to death. Jesus was against that(let he who is without sin cast the first stone).. Mohammed started many wars.. Jesus none. And comparing it to hating all japanese, or koreans or blacks, doesn't work 'cos that's racial, this is ideological.
There was a time when i enjoyed Paula Zahn shows. But the anti atheist thing blew me away. How can anyone do a show like that allowing that kind of bashing from one side and still call themselves a journalist?
Why is it that every war America has fought,they always are afraid of the people who look,speek or have the same beliefs as the people there fighting.Your a multicultular country,so dont demonise your own citizens.
you know everytime i hear the anti mosque argument i fell like headbutting my desk, its like you explain the stupidity of it to one person then another comes up with the same argument, then another and another. why cant you all listen and stop making the same point over and over again which has already been proved to be ridiculous.
@thetrueturnip Yep. It's like hidden in their brains, and it is immune to facts or rational argument. It pops up at a pregiven time that cannot be changed. We need to set up some kind of institution that just educates people on the anti-mosque issue for the next hundred years, until all the older generations have completely died.
fuck you paula zahn, "post 9-11 fear" watch "The Siege" and i will quote Denzel Washington's monologue in the Muslim Relocation Camp built in Yankee Stadium in the wake of a series of terrorist attacks in Manhattan. By violating the basic human rights we guarantee in our own goverment documents and the VERY BLUEPRINTS of our great nation, then they have won. thats what they want, for us to discriminate Muslim people and bend laws out of our own fear. do that and they've won..
who is this moron? nobody is questioning their right to express themselves, you shuffling bag of shit. it's whether what they express is bigoted and racist that is in question and should they have the right to shun and discriminate against an ethnic and religious group based on those convictions.
Merry Christmas. Since when does a person need to say that he is of a belief for others to know he is of that belief? If a bunch of rednecks got together wearing white robes and burned a cross in front of a black mans house would you assume they are KKK members? They never said they hated black people and they never said they were members.
It is known that Hitler was an atheist. And lets not forget the millions of people murdered by atheist ideals started by Margaret Sanger, an atheist
God, sometimes I wanna tell people to shut the fuck up about 9/11. A group of radical Islam did it. It's not EVEN Muslim, it's not at all. Muslim is mostly about peace, and mass-murdering innocent people isn't exactly condoned in the Quran. So, I mean, it's like radical Christians aren't REALLY Christians, they're hypocrites. Radical Muslims are hypocrites as well. And the terrorists were radicals, not ACTUAL Muslims.
Cenk owned them. Lmfao, anyone notice the chick next to him checking him out?
Actually the quran does specify on killing infidels. But muslims still live in that mental state and they haven't grown out of it. Most christians dismiss the bible passages where it says to stone gays and disobedient children. They have progressed. Sadly, the muslim community have not. Look what happens when you write a book on it, or draw a cartoon, or make a movie. The teachings of islam are not compatible with a peaceful world (unless everyone converts to islam!).
Oh please, you mean the extremist who kill people for not being christian or hold signs saying " God Hates Fags" You are extremely ignorant, just another christian conservative trying to tell people about there religion and how they should live their life, you are not a Muslim, so dont act as if you know about them.
lol Im not a christian conservative. Ive done enough christian bashing in the past, just being fair. Im an atheist. I posted that comment after hearing Islam being called a "peaceful" religion, which is simply not true. Look it up. I cant believe i was called a christian conservative lmfao ;-)
In case you have not noticed, extreme christian fundamentalist did not cause 9/11. When was the last terrorist attack done by a christian fundamentalist? Never?
Jeffery Dahmer converted to Christianity AFTER he was arrested. Get your facts straight. And he was not a terrorist. American slave owners were of every faith in that time period, not just Christian. And again they were not terrorists. All I know about the Army of God is that they kidnapped some abortion "doctor". And of course the KKK is a terrorist group. You are half right about hating Christians
Yet the christian slave owners justified it with religion, which is why it was allowed. terrorist (a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities)
And the Army of God uses violence to get their message out. And no I was not half right, because their are many more examples. You are completely wrong because you thought Christian never committed an act of terror
Yes they did justify it through religion dispite the fact that the Bible clearly condemns slavery 100%. American Christians did not start slavery in the US, the Dutch did by trading slaves for food only they called them "indentured servants".
Slavery was never started by acts of terrorism or by an act of American government. In fact it was ended by the US Government. And owning slaves was not an act of terror. Is was wrong but it is not terrorism.
So slavery is not terrorism but blowing up one building is. That is one way you are wrong.
Exodus 21: 20-21 actually does advocate slavery. And indentured servitude is different from slavery and even if the Dutch started it Colonists and America kept it going in the name of their religion
20 And if a man smite his SERVANT, or his MAID, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
Where exactly does it mention slaves or slavery? In the same chapter you quote it clearly condemns slavery. See Exodus 21:16, I Timothy 1:10, Matthew 7:12.
Slavery was terrorism, as well as Genocide and justified by Christianity. The above definition defines a terrorist.
terrorism, (the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear)
Slavery is not terrorism. Slavery is NOT a means to attain political or religious goals. Slavery is solely used for economic reasons(to pick tobacco and cotton) and get owners rich.
How does picking crops affect the political or religious beliefs of people???? Answer: it doesn't.
The slave owners did not care what religion or race the slaves were. And American slavery started way before America was even a country. Religion played no role in slavery. GREED started slavery. Religion ended it.
What bible are you reading???? I really want to know.
There were Native American slaves and Mexican slaves. The only reason black slaves worked so well was because they were black and stood out. And it was the church (mainly Methodist and Baptist ) that condemned slavery and brought about its end. Do some research. Greed started it religion ended it.
Slavery was technically made illegal by the Declaration of Independence and the 5th amendment of the Bill of rights of the Constitution.
Curse of Ham is what they used to justify their discrimination.
Black slaves stood out because they were the majority.
Yes some religions condemned it, but many religious people justified slavery with religion.
Religion did not end it, but was the means for justifying it(for some), and condemning it (for others)
5th amendment nor did the Declaration of Independence make slavery illegal because Blacks were not considered citizens. And if they did slavery would have been abolished at that time.
How does ones grandson become a different race? Using the Bible to justify slavery is sick. The Bible says nothing about race. And it clearly condemns slavery. Just because Noah cursed his grandson into slavery does not mean it was Gods will.
The Declaration of Independence reads: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL MEN are created equal, (including black people)
It is safe to say that the only acts of terror done by people claiming to be Christian were carried out by the KKK
Blacks werent men to them,but property. The Declaration of Independence did not abolish slavery, but declared America's independence from Great Britain.
Its not safe to say that the KKK was the only terrorist group that were Christians.
why does there always need to be some idiot in the middle who knows noting, but sentences like "9/11" and try to ruin great debates between intelligent people
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fucking nigger monkey, all niggers must live in the sewers how about that? because they will spread aids, how about this argument? same thing. seems like he forgot the his father was treated as the simplest form of life
Cenk you should have stated : should we not alow Irish people to move from nabourhood to nabourhood, becuase they could have possably been IRA members some 20 years ago.
lets be honest here.... nobody wants a bunch of FOREIGNERS in their community... its nothing personal, we just dont want u over here.... look at your community and look at ours..... WUT THE FUCK makes u think we want u in our community... blacks or mexicans dont want me moving in to their "hood" we dont want them moving into our suburb.... fair enuf by me
yes, right your totally right. because if a mosque is built in a area it will start a production line of bombs. Since your not so bright note my sarcasm. Idiot. Your not even from America, stick to your own national affairs.
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Islam is not a race and is hardly a religion. It's a political and military ideology and at that a very awful one. Nobody wants a Nazi building put up in their community, why the double standard?
The arabs took alot more african slaves than any white man, so learn your history a little bit. Your african brothas and sistas are currently slaves by the muslim arabs in Sudan right now as we speak but the sad thing is most people don't even know that's going on right now.
Maybe, but did the Arabs commit all of the crimes that the white man on top of that? The Bible tells us to be "slaves", but The Bible does not advocate rape, murder, cruelty and all of the other crimes carried out by the white man. There are slaves in Sudan, just as there are slaves in Morocco, but these slaves aren't pregnant women being tied to horses and having their stomach slit open
Yes that happened and still is and I'm not disputing that, but we're talking about modern day in America. I have to admit though I didn't know much about that. Let's not get off of the original topic though.
When the American people finally grow up and realize that their government and the mainstream media are conspiring against them and creating a Kingdom of Fear through discussions like this. Once a media source puts forth an idea, its kinda hard to say, "Well...OK... we were wrong" because that little "idea" may very well take on a life of its own... which is the whole purpose of putting forth the idea in the first place. Stop. Think. Everything is connected. Find the connection... find the truth
the woman leading discussion sis fucking retarded(the cnn woman) bringing up 9/11 like it has any meaning today. yes it happen and there is still threats to America but Americans are smarter than that and don't believe the shit they say
Whose the Blond moderator of the discussion? Paula Zahn?? Whoever she is shes totally off base. Should Americans be afraid of Germans because of WWII? Should they be afraid of the Japanese because of Pearl Harbor? Get a grip. Not all Germans are Hitler and Not all Muslims are Osamas best friend.
Can you imagine what would happen if Americans protested a Synagogue being built in their neighborhood?? This is not hing but Religious bigotry and racism towards a faith that does NOT represent the sick Islamic Radical terrorists!!
Well i remember that happening in a town i lived in, it was in germany I was born jewish.. I am not anymore though well this did happen ths Synagogue was torn down by the protesters, I cannot remember the date it was like 25-30 years ago.
There were and still is anti-semitism in this country and elsewhere in the world. One cannot change everyones views unfortunatelly., Theres always going to be racism and bigotry...we can only inform and educate people on what is right.
Niger is a nice name. But, why chance it? You know what they're gonna call him from grade 1 thru 12. I bet Niger's grandfather didn't name his son, Coon Innis. How about Cracka Phillips?
LOL! Perhaps. But, I have a pet peeve about inconsiderate parents who give their kids school yard fightin' names, like Richard Hertz, Richard Head, Amanda Stroke, Patrick McGroin or Mohammad....Just kiddin' about the last one, but you know what I mean.
And, yes, he's a historic President with a strong name. But, stop naming your babies Barack. I met a Kid whose 1st name was President.
Pronounced "nyee-gerr" As in the Country in Africa Niger..but of course you didnt know that was a country in africa ..because your a Butt pirating anal general of an asshole.
Silly rabbit. I wouldn't have said, "Niger is a nice name, But..." Followed by, ".....call him in grade 1 thu 12." I didn't think I'd need to reference such an elementary school piece of info about Africa. The school yard teasing would come in b/c it's 1 letter off of the being Nigger Innis. Thus, the "...why chance it?" comment. Because of the growing up with wise-ass school kids part. Who play those games all the time. Don't take it so personal, rockniga.
Here is the biggest irony of all, you idiot. Press the Audio Preview button, you'll hear that your "nyee-gerr" teaching assistance gives the sound, nigger. Niger is pronounced "nye-jer." It's not the Nigger River. We're not talking about N.O. after Hurricane Katrina. Back to school for you, rockniga.
hes not Naive..hes Walking threw the bullshit...the stuff people are pushing out is bullshit the Reality is..hes paying attention...white people are just as dangerous as Muslim Terrorist and Blacks from the hood that sell dope There is No diffrence..fear mongering is stupid
The "fears that many Americans have of Muslims" are not rational.
That "fear" is the result of a massive propaganda attack which allowed U.S. forces to invade Iraq and Afghanistan and kill over one million innocent people.
There are more white American terrorists than muslim terrorists.
White terrorists killed 4 million civilians in Vietnam, white terrorists were the only terrorists ever to use a nuke.
I wish I could punch that dumbass white bitch in the face.
I think Cenk and the Lady standing next to him posed a wonderful argument in everyword they said. You know, what ever happened to people admitting to reproof, or accepting the challenge of rethinking a thing. I am African American, and I feel the Black guy should've seen the light on this one and admitted the sense in what they were saying rather than sticking to his guns for the sake of saving face.
Here is my view on muslims. I am a 100% redneck southerner. Not one of those wanna-be's. I don't have a problem with muslim people at all. Thats coming a white sourhern redneck! People that are weak mentally and spiritually will always fear differences in other people! Us REAL rednecks have one motto! Long as you don't treat on my rights as a humna begin we don't have a problem! In fact muslims are more disiplined than most christians No drinking or smoking. no illicid drugs!
Why not change TYT to "Hitler's Nazi Youth". The original TYT during WWI were responsible for the 1.5 million Armenian, Greek & Assyrian genocide. Armenians are not demanding money, reparations nor property just Turkish govt confession. I can't understand why fellow liberal secularists are no different than the faithful theists who supported the Nazi party. Maybe fat and happy pigs don't turn on the farmer? Is this the progression of a Progressive? Anyone read the UD of Human Rights?
Man you're ignorant of history. Check the links on my channel. Armenian genocide is a fact and Cenk is a denier. Hey Cenk fan bum boy. I'm not Armenian and I doubt you are either.
umm. How did an X amount of armenian population magically dissapear from Turkey at the time? u explain me that and i will continue on.
The Turks did it. They know they did it. And They know that we know that they did it.
Why did the Armenian population fall instead of increase at the time?
Ignorant brainwashed people like you will always remain the same. You will never change your stance. And you will never accept the truth. People like you make me sick.
ermm no. you heard of the hincak and dashnak parties? some of the armenians tried to start a revolution. they supported russian troops against the ottaman military, they got support from armenian society to form mutinies in cities like van and erzurum. they also massacred muslim turks. this resulted in civil war. there were "revenge" killings by muslim civilians on armenian ones in south eastern turkey. armenians left their homes in order to escape the civil war.
the ottaman government tried to aid armenians relocate from the region which is why armenians were exempted from taxes at the time. they also provided security for those armenians that relocated but stayed elsewhere in the country. those who attacked the armenian convoys that were leaving the region were punished. armenian convoys were provided fod by the ottaman government. turkey has opened its historical archives to prove this. the turkish government has nothing to hide.
the incident was a civil war. many muslim turks also died. the governmrnt did NOT carry out the killing of armenians and thus it was not genocide. you shouldnt call people ignorant without researching the subject yourself.
"Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance."
Your falsified propaganda is just innappropriate and shouldn't be spread . You are an ignorant person falsifiing the deaths of a million and a half people. You didnt even answer my question. Because you know that you are wrong. Turkish government Slaughtered the Armenian Leaders in Turkey as a start. They forced women to convert to Islamor they will be hung or slaughtered in front of their children, Turks left the elders to starve in the desert. Turks slaughtered the Armenians in their Army.
no calling names doesnt change anything. and yes i did answer your question - due to the civil war a lot of armenians were killed (as were muslim turks), and a lot left the country.
show me some evidence for your claims. like i said turkeys historical archives have been opened as the turkish government have nothing to hide.
The Turks Archives? The Turks have nothing to hide? You go look at any other archives in the world and you will see that massacres DID happen. What civil war? Turks were involved in fighting on the fronts of its borders. Armenians were not killed as a result of war. THEY WERE KILLED just like the jews were during the Second World War. Turkish Soldiers ordered by the government to go into the homes of innocent Armenian villagers and slaughtered them. Hopeless, helpless, armless Armenians.
Why would Armenians lie about the Genocide for a Century? Is it because we have nothing else to do? We have a reason.The reason is that the Turks are denying what they did and that is wrong. The Turks changed the Armenian Rooted words of the animals in the area to Ottoman rooted words. Civil War? Bullshit Propaganda from a typical turk like you. Turkish Soldiers Ripping up a pregnant woman's stomach and killing the fetus inside.Turks killing Armenians just because they were not Muslim
Turks did this, Turks did that.. WHERE IS THE PROOF? Ottomans had an excellent archiving system. for example, you may find how much money the army spent for an individual soldier on some 15th century war. They accept to open all the documents filed during or after the 1915 incidents.. Armenians also should have some documents.. BUT THE ARMENIANS NEVER ACCEPT OPENING THEM IN FRONT OF THE WORLD.
Armenian "government" has only one card on hand, bluffing for 94 years..
who's the black women standing next to cenk?????????
fatman1001 6 months ago
Cenk claims he is a former Muslim in which case why is he alive? apostates are killed in Islam.
This guy is a lying piece of trash he loves pulling the race card against republicans but excuses racism when his own do it (Turkish news achor in blackface)
darkstar3x16 8 months ago
@darkstar3x16 No, Sir, he is educated and logical, and cares about the liars in America bringing the world to war for money.
hamrite 7 months ago
Yeah sure there is fear, but those are irrational fears that we have to drive out. JEEEZ
BabyEater9000 9 months ago
nigger innis is a complete idiot
NaseerHammed 1 year ago
cenk hit the mark, he just said no i dont give a fuck about them there is no sympathy to give
1yearyounger 1 year ago
nuffin but blah blah blah comin out this black guy mouth lmao hahahahahahah
flow267 1 year ago
I must disagree with Cenk, but his analogy is flawed. It's more like equating all Christians with the IRA. You can't say it's like equating them to one person, but you can say it's like equating them to another terrorist group.
xJoeEDangerouslyx 1 year ago
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any christian IRA analogy is flawed.. 'cos they couldn't square their actions with jesus. I saw sinn fein discuss the problem iin a program on the bible. mohammed and jesus are very different. Mohammed had a woman stoned to death. Jesus was against that(let he who is without sin cast the first stone).. Mohammed started many wars.. Jesus none. And comparing it to hating all japanese, or koreans or blacks, doesn't work 'cos that's racial, this is ideological.
jameshanley40 1 year ago
paula zahn sounds like a bitch here 4:53
chopath 1 year ago
im gonna get hate for this but the black panelist has the most unfortunate name.
cybercentecs 1 year ago
@cybercentecs its not pronounced the way youd think,..
cwongchung 11 months ago
i thought she said four dicks
ONLY1JLO 1 year ago 4
no matter how many times i press F5 i still get a fucking ad!!!
azchris520 1 year ago
There was a time when i enjoyed Paula Zahn shows. But the anti atheist thing blew me away. How can anyone do a show like that allowing that kind of bashing from one side and still call themselves a journalist?
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purplesageify 1 year ago
Why is it that every war America has fought,they always are afraid of the people who look,speek or have the same beliefs as the people there fighting.Your a multicultular country,so dont demonise your own citizens.
torca1950ancola 1 year ago
you know everytime i hear the anti mosque argument i fell like headbutting my desk, its like you explain the stupidity of it to one person then another comes up with the same argument, then another and another. why cant you all listen and stop making the same point over and over again which has already been proved to be ridiculous.
thetrueturnip 1 year ago
@thetrueturnip Yep. It's like hidden in their brains, and it is immune to facts or rational argument. It pops up at a pregiven time that cannot be changed. We need to set up some kind of institution that just educates people on the anti-mosque issue for the next hundred years, until all the older generations have completely died.
sicklesickle 1 year ago
fuck you paula zahn, "post 9-11 fear" watch "The Siege" and i will quote Denzel Washington's monologue in the Muslim Relocation Camp built in Yankee Stadium in the wake of a series of terrorist attacks in Manhattan. By violating the basic human rights we guarantee in our own goverment documents and the VERY BLUEPRINTS of our great nation, then they have won. thats what they want, for us to discriminate Muslim people and bend laws out of our own fear. do that and they've won..
pureindian407 1 year ago
ITALIANS?
FUCK YOU RASCIST PEOPLE!!!
TheAmericanCanadian 1 year ago
Host: "and the fears that many americans have about muslims"
and by that she means her own fears and...well, to be blunt, bigotry.
Why can't she do her job and ask questions instead of boring us with monologs? Dumb, waste of space, idiot.
braydenbeautiful 1 year ago
Cenk might just be my favorite politician of all time!
ViaCydonia 1 year ago
who is this moron? nobody is questioning their right to express themselves, you shuffling bag of shit. it's whether what they express is bigoted and racist that is in question and should they have the right to shun and discriminate against an ethnic and religious group based on those convictions.
franzpolak 1 year ago
cenk always kicking ass as was anticipated
theblakelvis 2 years ago 6
Merry Christmas. Since when does a person need to say that he is of a belief for others to know he is of that belief? If a bunch of rednecks got together wearing white robes and burned a cross in front of a black mans house would you assume they are KKK members? They never said they hated black people and they never said they were members.
It is known that Hitler was an atheist. And lets not forget the millions of people murdered by atheist ideals started by Margaret Sanger, an atheist
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
Atheism is worse. World Wars were started over it.
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
first of all cenk did own them based on the whole bringing out the worst in people part. brilliant.
also wow the hot chick next to him totally does check him out at 3.56
uaw2nome 2 years ago
Niger Innis is the smartest Black Man involved in Politics!!! Been a fan since the 1st time I saw him on TV.
50V137KGB 2 years ago
he is an absolute idiot
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
dumb fucking people.
falconfira 2 years ago
God, sometimes I wanna tell people to shut the fuck up about 9/11. A group of radical Islam did it. It's not EVEN Muslim, it's not at all. Muslim is mostly about peace, and mass-murdering innocent people isn't exactly condoned in the Quran. So, I mean, it's like radical Christians aren't REALLY Christians, they're hypocrites. Radical Muslims are hypocrites as well. And the terrorists were radicals, not ACTUAL Muslims.
Cenk owned them. Lmfao, anyone notice the chick next to him checking him out?
ThirtySk830 2 years ago 16
Actually the quran does specify on killing infidels. But muslims still live in that mental state and they haven't grown out of it. Most christians dismiss the bible passages where it says to stone gays and disobedient children. They have progressed. Sadly, the muslim community have not. Look what happens when you write a book on it, or draw a cartoon, or make a movie. The teachings of islam are not compatible with a peaceful world (unless everyone converts to islam!).
stemcgolf 2 years ago
Oh please, you mean the extremist who kill people for not being christian or hold signs saying " God Hates Fags" You are extremely ignorant, just another christian conservative trying to tell people about there religion and how they should live their life, you are not a Muslim, so dont act as if you know about them.
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
lol Im not a christian conservative. Ive done enough christian bashing in the past, just being fair. Im an atheist. I posted that comment after hearing Islam being called a "peaceful" religion, which is simply not true. Look it up. I cant believe i was called a christian conservative lmfao ;-)
stemcgolf 2 years ago
if that's the case Christianity is not a peaceful religion, in fact most religions if not all are not peaceful.
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
I agree 100%.
stemcgolf 2 years ago 2
someone is full of hate
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
if you mention extreme christian fundamentalist, then of course I am.
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
In case you have not noticed, extreme christian fundamentalist did not cause 9/11. When was the last terrorist attack done by a christian fundamentalist? Never?
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
Jeffery Dahmer or the American slave owners or the Army of God or KKK
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
Happy New Year y'all
Jeffery Dahmer converted to Christianity AFTER he was arrested. Get your facts straight. And he was not a terrorist. American slave owners were of every faith in that time period, not just Christian. And again they were not terrorists. All I know about the Army of God is that they kidnapped some abortion "doctor". And of course the KKK is a terrorist group. You are half right about hating Christians
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
Yet the christian slave owners justified it with religion, which is why it was allowed. terrorist (a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities)
And the Army of God uses violence to get their message out. And no I was not half right, because their are many more examples. You are completely wrong because you thought Christian never committed an act of terror
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
Yes they did justify it through religion dispite the fact that the Bible clearly condemns slavery 100%. American Christians did not start slavery in the US, the Dutch did by trading slaves for food only they called them "indentured servants".
Slavery was never started by acts of terrorism or by an act of American government. In fact it was ended by the US Government. And owning slaves was not an act of terror. Is was wrong but it is not terrorism.
Sorry, again you fail.
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
So slavery is not terrorism but blowing up one building is. That is one way you are wrong.
Exodus 21: 20-21 actually does advocate slavery. And indentured servitude is different from slavery and even if the Dutch started it Colonists and America kept it going in the name of their religion
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
By your own definition of terrorism, which isn't that good of a definition, slavery is NOT an act of terror.
They kept slavery going in the name of GREED, nothing else.
Exodus 21:20
20 And if a man smite his SERVANT, or his MAID, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
Where exactly does it mention slaves or slavery? In the same chapter you quote it clearly condemns slavery. See Exodus 21:16, I Timothy 1:10, Matthew 7:12.
Sorry, you fail yet again
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
Slavery was terrorism, as well as Genocide and justified by Christianity. The above definition defines a terrorist.
terrorism, (the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear)
Exodus 21:21
Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money
servant and maidservants were slaves
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
Slavery is not terrorism. Slavery is NOT a means to attain political or religious goals. Slavery is solely used for economic reasons(to pick tobacco and cotton) and get owners rich.
How does picking crops affect the political or religious beliefs of people???? Answer: it doesn't.
The slave owners did not care what religion or race the slaves were. And American slavery started way before America was even a country. Religion played no role in slavery. GREED started slavery. Religion ended it.
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
People felt that blacks had a curse on them because of a story in the bible.
Slave owners did care because if they didnt they would have gotten slaves of all nationalities, but they did not MAJORITY of the slaves were black.
LAZINESS,GREED,and RACISM started slavery and religion kept it going and President Lincoln, Amendment 13, and the Emancipation Proclamation ended it.
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
What bible are you reading???? I really want to know.
There were Native American slaves and Mexican slaves. The only reason black slaves worked so well was because they were black and stood out. And it was the church (mainly Methodist and Baptist ) that condemned slavery and brought about its end. Do some research. Greed started it religion ended it.
Slavery was technically made illegal by the Declaration of Independence and the 5th amendment of the Bill of rights of the Constitution.
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
Curse of Ham is what they used to justify their discrimination.
Black slaves stood out because they were the majority.
Yes some religions condemned it, but many religious people justified slavery with religion.
Religion did not end it, but was the means for justifying it(for some), and condemning it (for others)
5th amendment nor did the Declaration of Independence make slavery illegal because Blacks were not considered citizens. And if they did slavery would have been abolished at that time.
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
How does ones grandson become a different race? Using the Bible to justify slavery is sick. The Bible says nothing about race. And it clearly condemns slavery. Just because Noah cursed his grandson into slavery does not mean it was Gods will.
The Declaration of Independence reads: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL MEN are created equal, (including black people)
It is safe to say that the only acts of terror done by people claiming to be Christian were carried out by the KKK
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
Blacks werent men to them,but property. The Declaration of Independence did not abolish slavery, but declared America's independence from Great Britain.
Its not safe to say that the KKK was the only terrorist group that were Christians.
MrBlackfish011 2 years ago
It seems to be more acceptable in the bible than it is the Qu'ran to tell you the truth (mas murder that is)
upplsuckimcool16 1 year ago
why does there always need to be some idiot in the middle who knows noting, but sentences like "9/11" and try to ruin great debates between intelligent people
wilcarlie 2 years ago
stupid reporter i swear.....the real problem is the media
mbleek2001 2 years ago 2
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fucking nigger monkey, all niggers must live in the sewers how about that? because they will spread aids, how about this argument? same thing. seems like he forgot the his father was treated as the simplest form of life
dajooseovmabawls 2 years ago
zenciye bak salak salak konusuyor,cenk aferin dostum,tebrikler..
kislaoglu 2 years ago 2
one lion chasing a bunch of cows or whatever, people are retarded and blacks are damn racist
MrRightAllTime 2 years ago 2
cenk is legit, he should be on tv, tyt should be on tv. it is the shit.
boltzman5 2 years ago 30
...Muslim= terrorist as much has Christians=Jesus camp...see how crazy that sounds
khenry88 2 years ago
Cenk you should have stated : should we not alow Irish people to move from nabourhood to nabourhood, becuase they could have possably been IRA members some 20 years ago.
That would have shut em up.
Lesserthannone 2 years ago
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Cenk is Turk and a Muslim.....
U cant wait a fair idea from him about that issue..
kemalbjk27 2 years ago
he's not muslim.... he's an agnostic actually. get it right :-)
Sevie125 2 years ago 4
what is an agnostic? o.O
imampower07 2 years ago
An agnostic is someone who is unsure if there is a god or not.
Boogiedowndisciple 2 years ago
I'm a Turk but not a muslim. how about his then?
ERCuK 2 years ago 2
i guess we can all thank the GOP for creating this fear of muslims. the bush administration and the media are responcible for this misinformation.
rockloyalty522 2 years ago
lets be honest here.... nobody wants a bunch of FOREIGNERS in their community... its nothing personal, we just dont want u over here.... look at your community and look at ours..... WUT THE FUCK makes u think we want u in our community... blacks or mexicans dont want me moving in to their "hood" we dont want them moving into our suburb.... fair enuf by me
dcarterfrom07 2 years ago
wow thats pretty sick man. im white and not American but what you just said is disgusting.
stay classy.
Lemonhead86 2 years ago
exactly ure not american..... u have no idea what i am saying.... fuck off
dcarterfrom07 2 years ago
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Lemonhead86 2 years ago
WOOOOOOOOOOW America is the land of immigrants. iIf u don't like foreigners then U should move. Land of the free asshole
Sevie125 2 years ago 4
we takin over. one city at a time! DJ KHALED. WE THE BEST!
browngom 2 years ago
Land of the immigrant as long as they are not sick or criminals dumbass.
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
I also hate the comment that "Americans have fear about Muslims".
Are you trying to tell me it's unamerican to be a Muslim?
I thought America had freedom of religious expression.
1000Demons 2 years ago 3
no its just like the japanese in WWII
its just a scare rooted in ignorance and media influence
farizzal 2 years ago
I think that the minister just said what he did because he wants to remove competition.
Why draw people from his faith to another?
If you have courage of your convictions, minister, let the mosque move in, and let the so-called truth be shown.
1000Demons 2 years ago
would anyone of opposed to a church being built in that area?...
k4hbloodshed 2 years ago
Nope, because then theres a less of a chance of being blown up.
Desstromath 2 years ago
yes, right your totally right. because if a mosque is built in a area it will start a production line of bombs. Since your not so bright note my sarcasm. Idiot. Your not even from America, stick to your own national affairs.
k4hbloodshed 2 years ago
Ooh im so scared of cenks girlfriend, listen suck chenks balls
Desstromath 2 years ago
I could have sworn we had Freedom of Religion in this country. I guess not...
badtown88 2 years ago
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Islam is not a race and is hardly a religion. It's a political and military ideology and at that a very awful one. Nobody wants a Nazi building put up in their community, why the double standard?
villainousturtle 2 years ago
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dorkforceti83 2 years ago
yay cenk!
LilaFreakk 2 years ago 3
I'm not afraid of anyone Jew, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, and Buddha What ever. Fuck Religion.
Hazmat347 2 years ago
My Native American ancestors were butchered by CHRISTIANS. My African ancestors were enslaved by CHRISTIANS. Should I panic everytime I see a Church?
DaReal2k9 2 years ago 3
EXACTLY.
I completely agree with you.
To be afraid of muslims is just ignorant.
TrueMarkofdaking 2 years ago
I do.
Luciferincarnated 2 years ago
Lmao you a trip
DaReal2k9 2 years ago
The arabs took alot more african slaves than any white man, so learn your history a little bit. Your african brothas and sistas are currently slaves by the muslim arabs in Sudan right now as we speak but the sad thing is most people don't even know that's going on right now.
washappnin 2 years ago
Maybe, but did the Arabs commit all of the crimes that the white man on top of that? The Bible tells us to be "slaves", but The Bible does not advocate rape, murder, cruelty and all of the other crimes carried out by the white man. There are slaves in Sudan, just as there are slaves in Morocco, but these slaves aren't pregnant women being tied to horses and having their stomach slit open
DaReal2k9 2 years ago
Oh yes the Arabs have done very gruseome things to the Africans, so much I don't even know where to begin. If you wanna know start by watching this
THE ARAB SLAVE TRADE:
/watch?v=0Yo5XcWY9mo
washappnin 2 years ago
Here are some others to start with, it's very sad that this is still going on today and no one is doing anything about it.
Sudan: The Secret Slave Trade:
/watch?v=BpYTusFqeDM
Sudan Slavery Stories:
/watch?v=lnatPTB5u0Y
washappnin 2 years ago
Yes that happened and still is and I'm not disputing that, but we're talking about modern day in America. I have to admit though I didn't know much about that. Let's not get off of the original topic though.
DaReal2k9 2 years ago
That guy on the video is obviously Anti-Islam so I like his biased views.
DaReal2k9 2 years ago
ignore the africans for now, ur slave of ur own system, go miss ur job 2 days on a row and ur out on streets, no healthcare, nothing.
lxlArYanAlxl 2 years ago
Actually the Africans took more slaves then any other.
Most of the slaves came from warring tribes taking slaves from each other.
I am not trying to excuse anyone here, but im trying to show that there are few of the relevant nations/peoples that are innocent in this case.
Serethen 2 years ago 2
When the American people finally grow up and realize that their government and the mainstream media are conspiring against them and creating a Kingdom of Fear through discussions like this. Once a media source puts forth an idea, its kinda hard to say, "Well...OK... we were wrong" because that little "idea" may very well take on a life of its own... which is the whole purpose of putting forth the idea in the first place. Stop. Think. Everything is connected. Find the connection... find the truth
KorlaPlankton 2 years ago
i sadly agree
bykashka75 2 years ago
the woman leading discussion sis fucking retarded(the cnn woman) bringing up 9/11 like it has any meaning today. yes it happen and there is still threats to America but Americans are smarter than that and don't believe the shit they say
nela04 2 years ago
i like that part: " Americans are smarter" I think you ment to say " IS Smarter". i think you gave yourself and a nation another bail out
bykashka75 2 years ago
Cenk friggin owned that discussion. GG, sir.
Coolness127 2 years ago
their fears of saftey wtf
fakedude33 2 years ago
Debate: Cenk Uygur VS. Any1 = Cenk Uygur WINS
mariotx 2 years ago 30
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He lost to Jared Taylor.
And I think Noam Chomsky would have some fun with Cenk.
TurtlesandWolves 2 years ago
I just saw that video and Cenk couldn't handle himself but not necessarily lost the debate.
mariotx 2 years ago
That's because you can't beat the truth, and "the truth" is something that the right wing find hard to relate with.
DaReal2k9 2 years ago
Whose the Blond moderator of the discussion? Paula Zahn?? Whoever she is shes totally off base. Should Americans be afraid of Germans because of WWII? Should they be afraid of the Japanese because of Pearl Harbor? Get a grip. Not all Germans are Hitler and Not all Muslims are Osamas best friend.
ElleWoodsAttorney 2 years ago 6
Pish. What if the pastor in question had actually acted on the actual Bible, assumed the worst case scenario, and LOVED HIS ENEMIES, the Muslims?
Ponder that for a while. What if the pastor did the right thing?
mowriter 2 years ago 4
Let's dispute another Christian church being put up, you know since we already have five on the block.
PhrexianReturns 2 years ago 3
lol, good one.
ThaDoctrine
thadoctrine 2 years ago
No one wanted Italians around...? Why? We got good food!
Spiderweb127 2 years ago 7
yes, but your women are hairy.
just had to say it but yeah love the food and the women why the fuck wouldnt ppl want italians around :P
orjyazm 2 years ago
Cenk is so logical and simple when talking and explaining things he just makes ppl shut up...common sense rules!
cwants 2 years ago 9
Cenk Uygur makes news interesting
antossss 2 years ago 12
i agree - i really hope MSNBC puts him on the 10pm time slot.
rookiekf123 2 years ago 7
Can you imagine what would happen if Americans protested a Synagogue being built in their neighborhood?? This is not hing but Religious bigotry and racism towards a faith that does NOT represent the sick Islamic Radical terrorists!!
tmoda61 2 years ago
Well i remember that happening in a town i lived in, it was in germany I was born jewish.. I am not anymore though well this did happen ths Synagogue was torn down by the protesters, I cannot remember the date it was like 25-30 years ago.
MrPuffyable 2 years ago
There were and still is anti-semitism in this country and elsewhere in the world. One cannot change everyones views unfortunatelly., Theres always going to be racism and bigotry...we can only inform and educate people on what is right.
tmoda61 2 years ago
Niger is a nice name. But, why chance it? You know what they're gonna call him from grade 1 thru 12. I bet Niger's grandfather didn't name his son, Coon Innis. How about Cracka Phillips?
ThatguyNice 2 years ago
god dammit this is a stupid fucking comment. christ.
misterkleen 2 years ago 3
LOL! Perhaps. But, I have a pet peeve about inconsiderate parents who give their kids school yard fightin' names, like Richard Hertz, Richard Head, Amanda Stroke, Patrick McGroin or Mohammad....Just kiddin' about the last one, but you know what I mean.
And, yes, he's a historic President with a strong name. But, stop naming your babies Barack. I met a Kid whose 1st name was President.
ThatguyNice 2 years ago
Pronounced "nyee-gerr" As in the Country in Africa Niger..but of course you didnt know that was a country in africa ..because your a Butt pirating anal general of an asshole.
rockdiga 2 years ago
Silly rabbit. I wouldn't have said, "Niger is a nice name, But..." Followed by, ".....call him in grade 1 thu 12." I didn't think I'd need to reference such an elementary school piece of info about Africa. The school yard teasing would come in b/c it's 1 letter off of the being Nigger Innis. Thus, the "...why chance it?" comment. Because of the growing up with wise-ass school kids part. Who play those games all the time. Don't take it so personal, rockniga.
ThatguyNice 2 years ago
Here is the biggest irony of all, you idiot. Press the Audio Preview button, you'll hear that your "nyee-gerr" teaching assistance gives the sound, nigger. Niger is pronounced "nye-jer." It's not the Nigger River. We're not talking about N.O. after Hurricane Katrina. Back to school for you, rockniga.
ThatguyNice 2 years ago
Why didn't Cenk point out this was part of a propaganda attack?
Cenk is so fucking naive all the time, although they wouldn't allow him on the show if he wasn't.
bobtakeoverutube 2 years ago
hes not Naive..hes Walking threw the bullshit...the stuff people are pushing out is bullshit the Reality is..hes paying attention...white people are just as dangerous as Muslim Terrorist and Blacks from the hood that sell dope There is No diffrence..fear mongering is stupid
rockdiga 2 years ago
He doesn't point out that it's propaganda.
bobtakeoverutube 2 years ago
The "fears that many Americans have of Muslims" are not rational.
That "fear" is the result of a massive propaganda attack which allowed U.S. forces to invade Iraq and Afghanistan and kill over one million innocent people.
There are more white American terrorists than muslim terrorists.
White terrorists killed 4 million civilians in Vietnam, white terrorists were the only terrorists ever to use a nuke.
I wish I could punch that dumbass white bitch in the face.
bobtakeoverutube 2 years ago
I think the Turks made a huge mistake fighting back the Armenian Genocide.
If they admitted the Ottomans (not the Turks) did it the Turks today would have
earned the same respect the Germans have who blamed the whole thing on the Nazis.
Evolvedprimate 2 years ago
im muslim... and i know osama is a complete idiot who doesnt understand islam.
there ya go.
NOSFERATUalu 2 years ago 3
well, after all he understands muslim better than any president before him...
Isnogood1 2 years ago
Osama's threats are a joke compared to U.S. atrocities.
bobtakeoverutube 2 years ago 2
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fuck muslims
ronnywood1985 2 years ago
you ignorant son of a bitch
dasdafoij 2 years ago 4
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i fucked your mother
imita01 2 years ago
I think Cenk and the Lady standing next to him posed a wonderful argument in everyword they said. You know, what ever happened to people admitting to reproof, or accepting the challenge of rethinking a thing. I am African American, and I feel the Black guy should've seen the light on this one and admitted the sense in what they were saying rather than sticking to his guns for the sake of saving face.
oodeeboo 2 years ago 2
Sorry for some mispelling and a couple grammar errors on that last statement but i am up intirely too damm late typing this shit!
CherokeeApacheIrish 2 years ago
Here is my view on muslims. I am a 100% redneck southerner. Not one of those wanna-be's. I don't have a problem with muslim people at all. Thats coming a white sourhern redneck! People that are weak mentally and spiritually will always fear differences in other people! Us REAL rednecks have one motto! Long as you don't treat on my rights as a humna begin we don't have a problem! In fact muslims are more disiplined than most christians No drinking or smoking. no illicid drugs!
CherokeeApacheIrish 2 years ago 6
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The dude's name is Nigger lol
wow, his name is Nigger ahaha
TheInfamous302 2 years ago
It sounded like she said Niger Anus xD
gjmvi 2 years ago
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Hypocrit liar Cenk claims to be atheist yet he calls people who protest and make statements against islam 'bigots'.
Sapien6x 2 years ago
why do u assume there is an agenda just because u disagree?
he supports gay rights too, but hes not gay..
if he were a secret muslem as u claim he would not suport gay rights
and he himself makes "statements against islam" actually if u watch some other clips, but not against muslem people in general
its because he supports people's rights to practise religion, despite that he doesnt believe in them himself
that is the stance of the majority of atheists in my experience
PeterSenderos 2 years ago
" claims to be atheist " hes agnostic
atheelogos 2 years ago
wow...black guy got owned!! well done cenk...
JayGottiII 2 years ago 2
Go Cenk! the other man is uncle tom's.
Kdees 3 years ago 2
Go Cenk!
Jennybean89 3 years ago
Let's Go YOUNG TURKS!
paflagonian 3 years ago
CENK totally spoke much more articulate and connected better than the other two guest.
kaptainkool408 3 years ago
Why not change TYT to "Hitler's Nazi Youth". The original TYT during WWI were responsible for the 1.5 million Armenian, Greek & Assyrian genocide. Armenians are not demanding money, reparations nor property just Turkish govt confession. I can't understand why fellow liberal secularists are no different than the faithful theists who supported the Nazi party. Maybe fat and happy pigs don't turn on the farmer? Is this the progression of a Progressive? Anyone read the UD of Human Rights?
Sapien6x 3 years ago
Get The Fuck Out
YouJussGotCurbed 2 years ago
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ummm. no
you're way wrong
obviously you just wanted to vent.
go vent somewher else.
i dont care that your people were killed.
i am armenian, and i know what happened.
its stupid shit like this that gets everything stirred up.
go the fuck away. yo'ure part of the problem. let the hate go, it will do you no good.
williamkendrick 2 years ago
Man you're ignorant of history. Check the links on my channel. Armenian genocide is a fact and Cenk is a denier. Hey Cenk fan bum boy. I'm not Armenian and I doubt you are either.
Sapien6x 2 years ago
there is NO proof of an armenian genocide. prove it to me and i will happily change my stance on the subject.
chowmein911 2 years ago
umm. How did an X amount of armenian population magically dissapear from Turkey at the time? u explain me that and i will continue on.
The Turks did it. They know they did it. And They know that we know that they did it.
Why did the Armenian population fall instead of increase at the time?
Ignorant brainwashed people like you will always remain the same. You will never change your stance. And you will never accept the truth. People like you make me sick.
armenianperson 2 years ago
ermm no. you heard of the hincak and dashnak parties? some of the armenians tried to start a revolution. they supported russian troops against the ottaman military, they got support from armenian society to form mutinies in cities like van and erzurum. they also massacred muslim turks. this resulted in civil war. there were "revenge" killings by muslim civilians on armenian ones in south eastern turkey. armenians left their homes in order to escape the civil war.
chowmein911 2 years ago
the ottaman government tried to aid armenians relocate from the region which is why armenians were exempted from taxes at the time. they also provided security for those armenians that relocated but stayed elsewhere in the country. those who attacked the armenian convoys that were leaving the region were punished. armenian convoys were provided fod by the ottaman government. turkey has opened its historical archives to prove this. the turkish government has nothing to hide.
chowmein911 2 years ago
the incident was a civil war. many muslim turks also died. the governmrnt did NOT carry out the killing of armenians and thus it was not genocide. you shouldnt call people ignorant without researching the subject yourself.
"Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance."
Albert Einstein
chowmein911 2 years ago
Your falsified propaganda is just innappropriate and shouldn't be spread . You are an ignorant person falsifiing the deaths of a million and a half people. You didnt even answer my question. Because you know that you are wrong. Turkish government Slaughtered the Armenian Leaders in Turkey as a start. They forced women to convert to Islamor they will be hung or slaughtered in front of their children, Turks left the elders to starve in the desert. Turks slaughtered the Armenians in their Army.
armenianperson 2 years ago
no calling names doesnt change anything. and yes i did answer your question - due to the civil war a lot of armenians were killed (as were muslim turks), and a lot left the country.
show me some evidence for your claims. like i said turkeys historical archives have been opened as the turkish government have nothing to hide.
chowmein911 2 years ago
The Turks Archives? The Turks have nothing to hide? You go look at any other archives in the world and you will see that massacres DID happen. What civil war? Turks were involved in fighting on the fronts of its borders. Armenians were not killed as a result of war. THEY WERE KILLED just like the jews were during the Second World War. Turkish Soldiers ordered by the government to go into the homes of innocent Armenian villagers and slaughtered them. Hopeless, helpless, armless Armenians.
armenianperson 2 years ago
It's okay to deny the Armenian genocide, it only killed about
1 500 000 people. It's okay to deny the lack of justification for U.S. atrocities, it only killed tens of millions of people over the decades.
But don't you dare fucking deny the holocaust.
bobtakeoverutube 2 years ago
Why would Armenians lie about the Genocide for a Century? Is it because we have nothing else to do? We have a reason.The reason is that the Turks are denying what they did and that is wrong. The Turks changed the Armenian Rooted words of the animals in the area to Ottoman rooted words. Civil War? Bullshit Propaganda from a typical turk like you. Turkish Soldiers Ripping up a pregnant woman's stomach and killing the fetus inside.Turks killing Armenians just because they were not Muslim
armenianperson 2 years ago
Turks did this, Turks did that.. WHERE IS THE PROOF? Ottomans had an excellent archiving system. for example, you may find how much money the army spent for an individual soldier on some 15th century war. They accept to open all the documents filed during or after the 1915 incidents.. Armenians also should have some documents.. BUT THE ARMENIANS NEVER ACCEPT OPENING THEM IN FRONT OF THE WORLD.
Armenian "government" has only one card on hand, bluffing for 94 years..
ilteriskhan 2 years ago 2
"i dont care that your people were killed." Proof your not Armenian nor even Human.
Sapien6x 2 years ago
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Sapien6x 3 years ago
Are you an idiot?
dashunderscoredash 3 years ago
I dsilike religion.
But I dislike persecution of religion even more.
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Note Feb 10th 2010. Hurg
SkeffingtonP 3 years ago
Go Cenk!
readchomsky 3 years ago 14
Cenk is awesome!
cogitoergosum321 3 years ago