I have the right to insult who ever I want. Does that mean I should insult people NO. But Draw Muhamed Day is not about insulting people. I will say that again it is not about insulting people!!!!
@romantissimo Well I'm the type of guy who makes fun of everything, even myself. I am not trying to insult your prophit I am simply stating the fact that I have a right to laugh at him, that's all I want is the freedom to say what I want, you don't have to agree with it you also don't have to watch the cartoon.
It's this simple, believe what you want, don't force it on me. The sooner you realize that I have the right to do what I want, just as you have the right to do what you want (so long as no ones rights are being violated) the sooner we can all get along. Also a right cannot be a right if it obligates someone else. And no one can ever have a right to not be offended.
PS Is burning the american flag respectful of america? Draw Muhamed Day was about the muslims who claim offence but offend us.
you respond to gurning the american flag...for you is an insult and you have the right to do that...
but i can answer that burning the american flag was the result of the pro sionisms politic of america who support wathever the israelis terrorism against palestinians
@romantissimo Everything you said about you have the right to respond is spot except that you do not have the right to threaten peoples lives. This whole thing is about rebeling against censorship. I'm not saying its a nice thing to do I'm saying I should be able to do it. That zionist and the flag thing is bullshit because i'm not talking about americans burning the flag I'm talking about people in the middle east doing it.
@mrhnm you insult our prophite...this words hurts billions of muslims and me of course...i cant debate with a person who have only the word fuck in his messages
you are not a man we can talk with
ok draw and draw many mohammed you want ...when its an idiot who do that is not hurting
@romantissimo Drawing your prophit does not hurt you GET OVER YOURSELF. The rules of Islam do not apply to anyone except muslims.
PS: I don't care what anyone does so long as they do not use force on anyone. Burning the flag who cares drawing muhamed who cares. They are both symbols.
I use fuck to emphasize what I'm saying, maybe I over use it, but that does not invalidate my point. Besides fuck is just a word it has no mystical power.
@mrhnm yes i no that you use this word anywhere you can and no care if its hurt or no...
who force you to not draw the prophite.??..any one!!!
you have the right to do that and the muslims have the right to protest
its not about the rules of islam...its about respect...and if you read a litle thing about islam you ll now that this religion is not bull shit and deserve respect
@mrhnm i dont want to tell you about the prophit mohammed if you dont ask me to do that...i respond to this video to speak about the right of muslim to disagree with drawing mohammed...but if you are interesting to know about him simply google him and you will have some informations...its good to read :)
Aside from just trying to piss muslims off on the draw muhammud day, it was to make a statement to the muslim world that we are not afraid of their violent bullshit. We can say whatever the fuck we want (as long as it is not of a slanderous nature, of course) and draw whom ever the fuck we want.
the purpose of draw muhammad day was not to convince the Muslims that their religion is wrong, it is, as thunderf00t put it, a way to desensitize them and let them realize that their religious laws do not apply to everyone else
@YourRoadToHell well I saw no benefit in that. All it did was put our troops overseas in danger and disable access to the internet for many in the middle east. I think the video I did on May 20th, Why I don't believe in Islam, was far more constructive.
@YourRoadToHell Tf's very talented in the sciences and matter of fact empirical thinking but quite the opposite when it comes to nuanced thinking. Unfortunately I learned that lesson AFTER the fiasco. NEVER again.
they disagree because you're wrong. I suppose that you feel censoring Muhammad in SouthPark only after 911 was acceptable? TF's point is that we can post whatever we want about any religion and Islam has no special claim to be beyond criticism. If that pisses them off thats THEIR problem not his.
@GenericGenerator No, I have seen the South Park episodes featuring Muhammad and I have no problem with them. Furthermore, the episode in question that sparked this debate wasn't even really about Muhammad but rather poking fun at Muslim's beliefs on showing his image.
I disagree, the issue is of censorship and Islam's claim to be beyond criticism. The first South Park episode showed Muhammad in his full glory - post-911 Comedy Central refused to allow his likeness to be shown. You have a bill of rights in the US and a bunch of lunatics have just trumped you and told you not to express yourself - this is offensive in the extreme and clearly offensive to all liberal democracies. If you worry about offensive people why not ask them to stop?
@romantissimo I don't care that you don't have the same view, If you believed the moon was cheese and that the Invisible Pink Unicorn was the savior of the universe I literally could not care less. What makes me care about it is when people start forcing it on me. And by saying you must respect me and not draw the prophit then you are forcing your shit on me.
Seriously dude I don't care what god you pray to just get off my balls about it.
@romantissimo People force me to do things all the time and I resent it, I also recoginize it is a fact life. That does not mean that I have to be happy with it.
@romantissimo By the way, I watch very few movies and like even less, I don't drink Coca, nor do I eat hamburgers from McDonalds. Mostly I read, but I haven't read the news paper in about six months and I haven't watched the news in about a year. I will read an article about a subject that interests me, like this UN blasephmy law or whatever, its bullshit. You do not have to teach me respect, I respect things that deserve it. I would never tell anyone there beliefs are bs unless they asked.
I posted a vid on draw muhammed day not for conversion but for vengeance. Some extremist bastards struck the U.K. with terrorist attacks on my birthday so I wanted to do something to piss them off for disgracing my date of existence. Hurray for the muhammed show! It may not be just but it was sure fun to make.
@Mystrymeat I know an arab guy over here who's birthday is on 9/11. For the first couple of years after the attacks the neighbors called the police on his birthday parties. Imagine about 50 arabs with balloons and cake celebrating.
@MethodicalMadness that is why I did not draw Muhammad but rather spend that day posting a video explaining why I don't believe in the Muslim religion
@HappyCabbie Honestly, I wish I had a bigger picture of the situation before the draw Muhammad nonsense. It would've prevented me from getting caught up in it and participating. Hindsight is 20/20, if we let it be so.
@HappyCabbie While some people do look at the day as a way to piss off Muslims, that's not what it's about. The actual idea behind the day was noble. It was the same thing we tell our children when they're bullied at school.
"Stand up for yourself and let them know you're not afraid anymore."
If you find this to be insulting to others, then the others who get insulted need to start fighting the bullying as well, instead of brushing it off as saying, "They're extremists."
Unsubbed. stupid ass video. so it's ok to build a mosque near ground zero even , your words, it's to say "fuck you,", no problem, but it's bad to just make fun of poor little islam and muslims.
OK, i did my research, turns out Mohammed was a child raping, murdering, pillaging lunatic. maybe South Park can do the right thing and portray him the way he really was.
pathetic, you cowardly atheists who always pussy out in front of islam. no wonder Pat Condell is sick of you people.
@deveousdevil sure, no problem. Thank you for being a subscriber as long as you were.
FYI in the debate that DawahFilms and I had, which can be seen in its entirity on the youtube channel BlogTVShows, we did discuss the pedophile thing. Furthermore, I think I hit him pretty hard with my questions.
@Nagneto Nagneto, is reason to unsubscribe from me is a valid one and I do not consider it to be stupid. He is unsubscribing from me because 6 months ago I posted a video that he had not seen before and views as intellectually inferior.
That is a valid criticism of what I had to say in this video.
@HappyCabbie : Not saying he's wrong to subscribe or anything, I'm really just expressing my disagreement with his reasoning (and the fact that IT IS a community center). Looking back though, I could have put it more subtly and less like a little kid. >_>
@deveousdevil : the fail is you still can't accept that 1. It's not a mosque, it a community center that happens to be owned by muslims. 2. In america, they have full right to build whatever the fuck they want. 3. Yes Islam (and all other religion for that matter) are stupid teachings. 4. LOL at your elitist Blunderf00t fed attitude.
@deveousdevil Cowardly? Thats funny, I thought you guys were the ones so afraid of death that you have to construct an imaginary sugar daddy and an imaginary afterlife? Pathetic.
what are you talking about??? I AM AN ATHEIST, my problem is that so many atheists today are super happy about making the most ridiculous attacks on christianity and other religions, but they don't have the balls to make even legitimate criticisms against islam.
I have to say, I really like you. You seem like a very logical person, and I appreciate that. You can't find very many people like that around anymore. I send you my gratitude, oh Happy Cabbie.
@HappyCabbie no dude im not offend...just wondering why since hundred years the christians hate the mu"s"lims (please not muzlims but muslims)
the coran is the most holly book in islam ...we can debate hours in the scientific truth ( im not just doing google and read but i read the coran ) but its not the matter.
americans support israel who commit a hollocaust in palestine...american occuped irak without a raison just for help the bush (and ben laden) familly
ok so palestinian can be killed but they cant respond to attack
the rocket you told me about kill 1 arabic persons...the sionist state of israel kills hundreds and no one in occident (exept some people) tells any things...this sionists are building colonis into palestine without any right and against the ONUS resolutions but no one say anythings...plz open your mind and see the trueth..you are manipuled by the jewish lobbys
@romantissimo And like I said earlier I don't care if Isreal and Palenstine kill eachother. If they are too stupid to make peace that is their problem. I would be happy for them if they made peace but they haven't so...
I personally disagree with draw the prophet day, not so much because I care about their islamofascist censure, as I just don't like what this will turn in to.
Obviously, it has good intentions, defend free speech, wonderful.
How much do you want to bet that people are going to use it to hate on Islam?
If people are so inclined, at least draw the fellow without deliberate slander. You know, giving a leper a gift or something.
The idea of draw muhammud day is not to offend people. It's everyone trys to make himself a death thread target, and thus neutralize the death threat to south park creator.
Yes many people did it to offend people. But I went to school to meet hot girl doesn't mean the purpose of school is for guys to meet hot girl.
@jszhb there are more constructive ways to criticise Islam. For example I uploaded a long video on May 20 as to why I don't believe in Islam, their prophet, or their holy book. I also spent 4 and a half hours debating with DawahFilms and we got more accomplished than simply posting cartoons that serve no constructive purpose.
To all those who want to do draw Muhammad day. Ware a shirt that says nigger and go into Harlem or something then ware a shirt saying then holocaust didn't happen and go into a Synagogue. isn't that freedom of expression and freedom of speech???
You people doing this simply doing this to provoke people because you have nothing to do but to blame Muslims.
I understand his point that we should take the high road.
"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them." Karl Popper
@HappyCabbie Everyone is a bigot, if you retreat a step today on the matter of free speech tomarrow it will be a mile and in a week free speech won't exist.
Any Muslim who gets offended when a non muslim draws muhamed is a bigot.
@HappyCabbie I already told what the point of Draw Muhamed Day was you either have memory problems or are so set in your opinion that the idea you might be wrong hasn't occured to you.
I will tell you again, the point was to not give in to threats. I understand that Draw Muhamed Day by its nature pissed alot of people off.
My point is this if we refuse to say anything that someone might yell "offence" at then we lose our free speech. Is it losing free speech worth not offending people
@mrhnm no my point is any criticism of Islam is offensive to some people. However why upload content that has no educational value and is sole purpose is to piss people off. Why not instead tell them what is wrong with their religion. They will get upset just the same, but we don't make ourselves out to look like assholes in the process. A blind man can see that.
Please don't post a comment until you at least watch one tenth of the video you are criticizing.
@HappyCabbie I have already pointed out that the purpose of draw muhamed day was not to piss people off. You have stated over and over that the "sole purpose is to piss people off" but that wasn't the purpose.
I have watched your video, its premise is valid. I am not saying that you do not have a point, I am saying that your understanding of the purpose of Draw Muhamed Day in wrong.
If we give into threats ie kill those who critise Islam then we will give away free speech.
@mrhnm I am saying that your understanding of Draw Muhammad Day is wrong. Regardless of whatever your intentions may have been the point is that it was a counterproductive exercise that only grew the divide between the secular world and the muslim world.
This day was nothing about free speech. It was about the hatred of Islams and the arab world.
@HappyCabbie "It was about hatred of Islams and the arab world."
I didn't participate in Draw Muhamed Day because I hate the arab world. I really wouldn't give a damn about Islam if they weren't trying to force it down my throat.
I will not give in and be told how I can and cannot express myself. If you tell me that I can't say something I will say it.
"This day was nothing about free speech" It was proposed because muslims infringed on free speech. Do you propose giving in?
@romantissimo So what? I don't want lots of things to be an object of a joke, people still make fun of them.
Point is non muslims are not subject to the laws of islam. Your religion does not give you the right to censor us. Understand?
Draw Muhammed Day is about not being censored. Its not about offending you! I couldn't care less what you believe, or what your religion is so long as you don't force it on anyone. When muslims start threatening people over that is when I get annoyed.
@mrhnm we talk about BURN the CORAN day dude...!!!
like the NAZIS does with books in early 20th centuries...
but to answer your question: its about respect...in islam we dont accept drawing our prophet...so when people did that we manisfested against ...without bomb without violence...
your biggest danger is the jewish lobbys that controll your media (tv, news papers..mouvies..etc) and the worsth is that you believe them!!! you believe that islam is violent ...the word islam means peace
@romantissimo What do you mean by respect anyway? Do you want people to cow toe to your beliefs? I mean seriously, does respect to you mean doing what you want?
You want me to respect you, but I don't think you respect me. Every time you demand that I do this or that, it shows exactly how much "respect" you have for me.
I want freedom, for myself and everyone else, and part of being free is stating opinions that are going to hurt someones feelings.
@romantissimo You know nothing about me. I know I'm not free, though I am freer in the West than I would be under Sharia law. As far as palenstine goes I read a newspaper once and assumed that those idiots over there are still not getting along.
And I didn't tell you to fuck off, I said I might if the mood hit me while smoking a cigerate.
The news paper I read was all over Isreal for invading Palestine. Do you live in the US.
@romantissimo The whole entire issue here as I see it is as follows:
I think anyone should draw the prophit if they want to. I don't think it has anything to do with muslims aside from the fact that their religion is being laughed at.
You think it's disrespectful for someone to draw the prophit. I say it's as disrespectful as a non-Jew eating pork, or working on a Sunday. It has nothing whatsoever to do with them.
You hold your prophit sacred then don't look at the pictures.
but not with hurt the faith off 1 billard and half persons...
if we were in a place and you smoke and if i cant support the odor of cigarett..and if i tell you to dont smoke what you will do...its all about respect MAN!!!!
@romantissimo Well to be honest I don't watch the news, I could not careless about Jews and Muslims killing eachother, and depending on what would I was in while smoking said cigeratte I may tell you to fuck off.
I don't respect anyones religion, I laugh and them all. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to practice it, in fact I'm all for freedom of religion.
You keep demanding respect which makes me not respect you. If you want respect then stop crying about drawing muhamed.
@romantissimo You are absolutly right it is about respect, I respect your right to practice your faith, I don't care if their are mosques where I live, and I get upset when people threaten muslims.
Everyone has the right to practice their religion, and if someone threatens that then I will back up muslims all day. But there is a difference between threating your religion and laughing at it man.
And Draw Muhamed Day is about laughing, and not giving into censorship.
Draw 9/11 day in the next 9/11! We will draw these cowboys nigga monkeys falling down from the building while Bush high five paul wolfowitz and Cheny! Its gonna be fun!
@Iampiano Draw 9/11 day in the next 9/11! We will draw these cowboys nigga monkeys falling down from the building while Bush high five paul wolfowitz and Cheny! Its gonna be fun!
@Iampiano Draw 9/11 day in the next 9/11! We will draw these cowboys nigga monkeys falling down from the building while Bush high five paul wolfowitz and Cheny! Its gonna be fun!
This is a truly excellent video and you are a truly excellent person. You are espousing calm logic, reason and open debate, and I sincerelt commend you. In fact, the only suggestion I can make is that I would have said "Invitation," rather than "Challenge."
This quibble aside though, I will favourite this video and subscribe as soon as I've posted this comment. I'm not sure if I can be there for the debate, but your intentions already speak volumes.
If someone is that easily offended, then I think that person deserve to be offended a lot. You can check my video response for Draw Muhammad day if you'd like proof that my drawing WAS an exercise of free speech and WAS NOT an insult meant to offend. Sorry, Cabbie, but I don't buy your argument.
@HappyCabbie racist undertones? when did islam become a rase,its a belief system.yes there are alot of people who wants to insult and dont care about freedom of expression but it doesnt chance the real reason of draw mohamed day,there are meny muslims who would kill me for drawing him but i wouldnt say all muslims are like this as i no you wouldnt so dont judge draw mohammed day on youtube comments viacom didnt show the cartoons not because thay didnt want to offend but because of threts
@MrMorriz1 all too easy just read comments like this one that were left on my video
"Draw 9/11 day in the next 9/11! We will draw these cowboys nigga monkeys falling down from the building while Bush high five paul wolfowitz and Cheny! Its gonna be fun!"
Many racists hijacked Draw Muhammad day to promote their own xenophbia. That is my point.
@HappyCabbie i agree there were alot of idiots takeing part who dont care about freedom of speech but it doesnt take away the real reason of draw mohammed day and you said it started with the south park cartoon but it started way befor that in denmark, the southpark thing was the final straw
@MrMorriz1 Talking to this guy is immpossible. He doesn't understand the point of Draw Muhamed Day and refuses to acknowledge that the point was to not cave to threats.
In alot of ways he reminds of a Fox News anchor, or a creationist.
While people have got gratuitously vulgar with drawing Mohammad, it's the Muslims who started all this reacting to valid critiques and even innocuous depictions.
The reason people are gonna be drawing Muhammad is not because they want to piss Muslims off. The intention is to get Muslims to not give a fuck about it, so that the next time someone on TV tries to use the image of Muhammad as a part of a satire (alongside other religious figures) they will not get death threats, because it's not that big of a deal. Desensitization is a huge leap towards more free speech.
I'm doing it. I'm not trying to offend convert someone I am simply poking fun of crazy raticals. I know not every muslim isnt a ratical terrorist. I just want some fun and tried of it. Comedy Central pissed me off, like what? Half the show was censored? Lame.
I didn't draw a picture of Muhammad to change someone's opinion of Muhammad.
I drew a picture of Muhammad to prove that I was not afraid to draw a picture of Muhammad.
Telling me I can't do something sounds like a challenge to me, so when an entire sect of a religion tells me i can't draw Muhammad, it's my job to prove to them that I can.
It's not about offending them, it's not about making think differently.
It's a case of me saying Yes I Will one more time then they can say No You Can't
Draw Muhammed day isn't about pissing people off, it's about defending our right to free speech. To show that the right to speak freely isn't negotiable and it will not be threatened or taken away.
Hey Happy. I never heard anyone say that the point of drawing Muhammad was to try to convert Muslims. So I'm a bit puzzled about where you got that. I understood the purpose of this was to vigorously exercise your right to free speech.
The merits of intentionally insulting religion can be argued, but I understand this as being a counterweight to radicals who try to silence opposing opinions with threats of violence. I agree with you that the great majority of Muslims are not violent.
@jjason55740 I agree that being neutral isn't always the answer, although I can understand he doesn't go around calling Mohammed a pedophile, unless someone get's the same steam as the Cartoonist. Cabbies intentions are good, but think about groups you know, Do moderate christians care at all if you make fun of Jesus? they might not like it but I think they will be pretty indifferent to it, and I think it's the same with Muslims, most of them are sensible.
@jjason55740 I am not Muslim. I do not have a culture that admires a pedophile warlord. And I don't see how drawing Mohammad does anything to show that I disagree with pedophilia, etc. I think my own words will suffice for that. And nobody has ever scared me away from publicly acknowledging my opinion. No, not even where I live, where my opinion is very unpopular.
HappyCabbie, it's not about insulting people, the guy who said so was misunderstanding the whole idea, it's showing that we won't be intimidated when they say: We will kill the Danish cartoonist because he used free speech.
This is exactly to show them that we won't bend over for their threats, it's showing that we will never surrender our free speech, I think you will appreciate that.
And the Muslims who aren't crazy, won't care about drawings about Muhammed
@jjason55740 Nobody is saying you can't make satire of anyone, religious or political. Immature, stupid, silly and even hateful speech is still free speech. But just because I believe a person has a right to say insulting things doesn't mean the best way to defend that right is to also say insulting things.
Porn is free speech, too. That doesn't mean I'm going to film a porno.
I would rather talk about the virtues of free speech than join anyone in the gutter.
I'm not going to criticise a large group of people without passing th econtext, but some muslims seriously need to slack their fists a little. It's about "respect" they say, even though they're burning flags and stoning people to death in their motherland. Satire is a very old humoristic art, alot of people have been made fun of through satire, but when some 2000 year old religious symbol that is completely impersonal to the average muslim is getting picked at, it's SRS BIZ for some reason
I think this is a much better idea than the 'draw Mohammad' thing. I've never seen a good, clear explanation of how it promotes free speech. Sure, it exercises free speech, but promote it? I think it's far more likely to promote childishness and bigotry.
I hope DawahFilms takes you up on the debate offer. I would like to see that. I *do* think Muslims and nonbelievers can have a calm, rational conversation. I've had many such conversations myself (see recent videos).
I think you missed the point of it. The point of draw Muhammad day wasn't to convince people (your right there), its just too glorify free speech, regardless of who is offended. We have basic freedoms in the 1st world, one of them is drawing something that some idiots have regarded sacred. Hate speech (bloodthirsty maniacs) is however NOT one of those freedoms (to an extent), especially not following through with it.
I agree, if this is just to piss off a group it is not a good thing. But I've heard alot of muslims say why they won't participate, they agree with our right to do it. I don't know that I will participate, but someone has to take a stand against the extremists eventually. Will it offend? Yes, but I'm offended that people are killed for the simple act of drawing a picture..... I hope the imagies are tactful but not purly offensive.
I get where you're coming from. You should take a look at the video LatumWay put up after the South Park incident. It was one of the most reasoned responses to the situation I have seen on YouTube thus far.
You should be able to find it if you search his name with 'Depictions of Muhammed'.
I'm looking forward to the BlogTV (if DawahFilms chooses to take part), if you need Ops to help keep out trolls let me know.
FUCK ISLAM
Desishikamaru 9 months ago
are u muslim yet?
sexyabe 10 months ago
I have the right to insult who ever I want. Does that mean I should insult people NO. But Draw Muhamed Day is not about insulting people. I will say that again it is not about insulting people!!!!
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm when you insult a thing or a person you must have the proof of what you said...but whats your point of u???
when you insult the hollyest thing of persons you hurt them
if you want to debate the prophite im her but if you want only insult him so go ahead but dont thing that muslims agree and enjoy that
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo Well I'm the type of guy who makes fun of everything, even myself. I am not trying to insult your prophit I am simply stating the fact that I have a right to laugh at him, that's all I want is the freedom to say what I want, you don't have to agree with it you also don't have to watch the cartoon.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm no man i love SP its my favorite cartoon with the simpson :)
im from freedom...but i have some ideas and i have the right to disagree with it
if you want to know about islam my msn is insim1980@hotmail.fr
romantissimo 1 year ago
It's this simple, believe what you want, don't force it on me. The sooner you realize that I have the right to do what I want, just as you have the right to do what you want (so long as no ones rights are being violated) the sooner we can all get along. Also a right cannot be a right if it obligates someone else. And no one can ever have a right to not be offended.
PS Is burning the american flag respectful of america? Draw Muhamed Day was about the muslims who claim offence but offend us.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm never force you to be muslim MAN
you have the right to do or say what you want...but if you insult me i have the right to answer but the same manner
and drawing the prophet is an insult to us so accept the fact that we respond!!!!
romantissimo 1 year ago
@mrhnm one more thing dude...
you respond to gurning the american flag...for you is an insult and you have the right to do that...
but i can answer that burning the american flag was the result of the pro sionisms politic of america who support wathever the israelis terrorism against palestinians
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo Everything you said about you have the right to respond is spot except that you do not have the right to threaten peoples lives. This whole thing is about rebeling against censorship. I'm not saying its a nice thing to do I'm saying I should be able to do it. That zionist and the flag thing is bullshit because i'm not talking about americans burning the flag I'm talking about people in the middle east doing it.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm any ones censor you dude!!!
any one have the right of do that
but what do you want??? you want that muslims agree with you and insult with you their prophite???
accept the fact that the muslims have the right to disagree...it is democracy
and about burning your flag i said that the people did that because of the pro sionist politics of america
romantissimo 1 year ago
drawing that fucking prophit when you are not a muslim means fucking nothing get over yourselves god damn.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm you insult our prophite...this words hurts billions of muslims and me of course...i cant debate with a person who have only the word fuck in his messages
you are not a man we can talk with
ok draw and draw many mohammed you want ...when its an idiot who do that is not hurting
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo Drawing your prophit does not hurt you GET OVER YOURSELF. The rules of Islam do not apply to anyone except muslims.
PS: I don't care what anyone does so long as they do not use force on anyone. Burning the flag who cares drawing muhamed who cares. They are both symbols.
I use fuck to emphasize what I'm saying, maybe I over use it, but that does not invalidate my point. Besides fuck is just a word it has no mystical power.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm yes i no that you use this word anywhere you can and no care if its hurt or no...
who force you to not draw the prophite.??..any one!!!
you have the right to do that and the muslims have the right to protest
its not about the rules of islam...its about respect...and if you read a litle thing about islam you ll now that this religion is not bull shit and deserve respect
islam is peace..but some mass media change that
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo Anyway if you want to tell me about your prophit I will listen but don't expect me to convert. But hey I might who knows.
If you do wish to tell me about your prophit send me a personal message on here.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm i dont want to tell you about the prophit mohammed if you dont ask me to do that...i respond to this video to speak about the right of muslim to disagree with drawing mohammed...but if you are interesting to know about him simply google him and you will have some informations...its good to read :)
romantissimo 1 year ago
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before I heard about stupidity, now I see it
winskovable 1 year ago
before I heard about stubidity, now I see it
winskovable 1 year ago
@winskovable Were you trying to be ironic by spelling stupidity incorrectly?
plusmin09 1 year ago
Aside from just trying to piss muslims off on the draw muhammud day, it was to make a statement to the muslim world that we are not afraid of their violent bullshit. We can say whatever the fuck we want (as long as it is not of a slanderous nature, of course) and draw whom ever the fuck we want.
geragna 1 year ago
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There ARE moderate Muslims. Unfortunately, there is no moderate Islam.
RammatRamzi 1 year ago
@censurabass there were many who hijacked that day to promote racism and xenophobia. There are more constructive ways to criticise islam
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie i agree with you dude
in this good video you open the door to a bad persons who speak in the racisms language
we can discuss about everything and disagree about everything but in the respect of course
romantissimo 1 year ago
the purpose of draw muhammad day was not to convince the Muslims that their religion is wrong, it is, as thunderf00t put it, a way to desensitize them and let them realize that their religious laws do not apply to everyone else
YourRoadToHell 1 year ago
@YourRoadToHell well I saw no benefit in that. All it did was put our troops overseas in danger and disable access to the internet for many in the middle east. I think the video I did on May 20th, Why I don't believe in Islam, was far more constructive.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@YourRoadToHell Tf's very talented in the sciences and matter of fact empirical thinking but quite the opposite when it comes to nuanced thinking. Unfortunately I learned that lesson AFTER the fiasco. NEVER again.
MethodicalMadness 1 year ago
new challenge "Give a pork rind to a muslim day"
squizill 1 year ago
@squizill #LOL
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
they disagree because you're wrong. I suppose that you feel censoring Muhammad in SouthPark only after 911 was acceptable? TF's point is that we can post whatever we want about any religion and Islam has no special claim to be beyond criticism. If that pisses them off thats THEIR problem not his.
GenericGenerator 1 year ago
@GenericGenerator No, I have seen the South Park episodes featuring Muhammad and I have no problem with them. Furthermore, the episode in question that sparked this debate wasn't even really about Muhammad but rather poking fun at Muslim's beliefs on showing his image.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
I disagree, the issue is of censorship and Islam's claim to be beyond criticism. The first South Park episode showed Muhammad in his full glory - post-911 Comedy Central refused to allow his likeness to be shown. You have a bill of rights in the US and a bunch of lunatics have just trumped you and told you not to express yourself - this is offensive in the extreme and clearly offensive to all liberal democracies. If you worry about offensive people why not ask them to stop?
GenericGenerator 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie So what? If people don't want their beliefs to be laughed at they shouldn't have such funny beliefs.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm we havent the same point of vue and you must respect that
we have the same joke about our faith and u must respect us!!!
like you respect the faith of the sionist that govern you
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo I don't care that you don't have the same view, If you believed the moon was cheese and that the Invisible Pink Unicorn was the savior of the universe I literally could not care less. What makes me care about it is when people start forcing it on me. And by saying you must respect me and not draw the prophit then you are forcing your shit on me.
Seriously dude I don't care what god you pray to just get off my balls about it.
Respect is EARNED it is not a right.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm any one force you to any thing
i loved if a pink unicorn was our savior...with a huge weed :)
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo People force me to do things all the time and I resent it, I also recoginize it is a fact life. That does not mean that I have to be happy with it.
Isn't the IPU awesome.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@romantissimo By the way, I watch very few movies and like even less, I don't drink Coca, nor do I eat hamburgers from McDonalds. Mostly I read, but I haven't read the news paper in about six months and I haven't watched the news in about a year. I will read an article about a subject that interests me, like this UN blasephmy law or whatever, its bullshit. You do not have to teach me respect, I respect things that deserve it. I would never tell anyone there beliefs are bs unless they asked.
mrhnm 1 year ago
You look way too much like Glenn Beck in this thumbnail.
BuzzcutsFTW 1 year ago
@BuzzcutsFTW like Glenn Beck after an eating binge
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie Glenn Beck doesn't have a leet beard. 1 thumb for speakin your mind. another thumb for epic beard!
subscribed!
MrNoucfeanor 1 year ago
I posted a vid on draw muhammed day not for conversion but for vengeance. Some extremist bastards struck the U.K. with terrorist attacks on my birthday so I wanted to do something to piss them off for disgracing my date of existence. Hurray for the muhammed show! It may not be just but it was sure fun to make.
Mystrymeat 1 year ago
@Mystrymeat I know an arab guy over here who's birthday is on 9/11. For the first couple of years after the attacks the neighbors called the police on his birthday parties. Imagine about 50 arabs with balloons and cake celebrating.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie That really sucks for him and his family but it is rather funny.
geragna 1 year ago
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skitzels 1 year ago
@skitzels not only am I fat and ugly, but I am also capable of breeding with other fat and ugly people
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie You just made my day sir...
skitzels 1 year ago
It's easy to be offensive for its own sake. It is different to make a statement that MAY offend some people in the process.
MethodicalMadness 1 year ago
@MethodicalMadness that is why I did not draw Muhammad but rather spend that day posting a video explaining why I don't believe in the Muslim religion
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie Honestly, I wish I had a bigger picture of the situation before the draw Muhammad nonsense. It would've prevented me from getting caught up in it and participating. Hindsight is 20/20, if we let it be so.
MethodicalMadness 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie While some people do look at the day as a way to piss off Muslims, that's not what it's about. The actual idea behind the day was noble. It was the same thing we tell our children when they're bullied at school.
"Stand up for yourself and let them know you're not afraid anymore."
If you find this to be insulting to others, then the others who get insulted need to start fighting the bullying as well, instead of brushing it off as saying, "They're extremists."
Davin404 6 months ago
you should have made a balloon muhammed sculpture
epshot 1 year ago
@epshot sorry but that would have been offensive and would have been counter-productive to what I was trying to do
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
Unsubbed. stupid ass video. so it's ok to build a mosque near ground zero even , your words, it's to say "fuck you,", no problem, but it's bad to just make fun of poor little islam and muslims.
OK, i did my research, turns out Mohammed was a child raping, murdering, pillaging lunatic. maybe South Park can do the right thing and portray him the way he really was.
pathetic, you cowardly atheists who always pussy out in front of islam. no wonder Pat Condell is sick of you people.
deveousdevil 1 year ago
@deveousdevil sure, no problem. Thank you for being a subscriber as long as you were.
FYI in the debate that DawahFilms and I had, which can be seen in its entirity on the youtube channel BlogTVShows, we did discuss the pedophile thing. Furthermore, I think I hit him pretty hard with my questions.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@deveousdevil : It's a community Center. Not a mosque.
FAIL!
Nagneto 1 year ago
@Nagneto
the only fail is that you ignored the premise of mine and happycabbie's arguments.
deveousdevil 1 year ago
@deveousdevil: Furthermore the fact that you'd unsubscribe from Happie over such a stupid reason is hilarious to me.
Nagneto 1 year ago
@Nagneto Nagneto, is reason to unsubscribe from me is a valid one and I do not consider it to be stupid. He is unsubscribing from me because 6 months ago I posted a video that he had not seen before and views as intellectually inferior.
That is a valid criticism of what I had to say in this video.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie : Not saying he's wrong to subscribe or anything, I'm really just expressing my disagreement with his reasoning (and the fact that IT IS a community center). Looking back though, I could have put it more subtly and less like a little kid. >_>
Nagneto 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie
what's up dude?
hey i still think ur an amish, sorry, man....
thedayitriedtodie 1 year ago
@deveousdevil : the fail is you still can't accept that 1. It's not a mosque, it a community center that happens to be owned by muslims. 2. In america, they have full right to build whatever the fuck they want. 3. Yes Islam (and all other religion for that matter) are stupid teachings. 4. LOL at your elitist Blunderf00t fed attitude.
Nagneto 1 year ago
@deveousdevil Cowardly? Thats funny, I thought you guys were the ones so afraid of death that you have to construct an imaginary sugar daddy and an imaginary afterlife? Pathetic.
bojoben 1 year ago
@bojoben
what are you talking about??? I AM AN ATHEIST, my problem is that so many atheists today are super happy about making the most ridiculous attacks on christianity and other religions, but they don't have the balls to make even legitimate criticisms against islam.
deveousdevil 1 year ago
I have to say, I really like you. You seem like a very logical person, and I appreciate that. You can't find very many people like that around anymore. I send you my gratitude, oh Happy Cabbie.
BassistOf92 1 year ago
@BassistOf92 thank you.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
sorry dude but since the raise of islam, this persons exist to insult this religion.
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo sorry this video offended you.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie no dude im not offend...just wondering why since hundred years the christians hate the mu"s"lims (please not muzlims but muslims)
the coran is the most holly book in islam ...we can debate hours in the scientific truth ( im not just doing google and read but i read the coran ) but its not the matter.
americans support israel who commit a hollocaust in palestine...american occuped irak without a raison just for help the bush (and ben laden) familly
its why some integrist hate americ
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo it is all about oil, take oil out of the situation and American's policy would change
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie oil and sionism
america support israel no matter she do
hundreds of children die each year causes by isrealis attack but america dont say anything
if you were palestinian, what did you think about america?
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo What about the rockets palestine launches into Isreal?
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm hahahahahahahahahahah
ok so palestinian can be killed but they cant respond to attack
the rocket you told me about kill 1 arabic persons...the sionist state of israel kills hundreds and no one in occident (exept some people) tells any things...this sionists are building colonis into palestine without any right and against the ONUS resolutions but no one say anythings...plz open your mind and see the trueth..you are manipuled by the jewish lobbys
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo And like I said earlier I don't care if Isreal and Palenstine kill eachother. If they are too stupid to make peace that is their problem. I would be happy for them if they made peace but they haven't so...
mrhnm 1 year ago
I personally disagree with draw the prophet day, not so much because I care about their islamofascist censure, as I just don't like what this will turn in to.
Obviously, it has good intentions, defend free speech, wonderful.
How much do you want to bet that people are going to use it to hate on Islam?
If people are so inclined, at least draw the fellow without deliberate slander. You know, giving a leper a gift or something.
TheLastCanadian 1 year ago
@TheLastCanadian good point
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
The idea of draw muhammud day is not to offend people. It's everyone trys to make himself a death thread target, and thus neutralize the death threat to south park creator.
Yes many people did it to offend people. But I went to school to meet hot girl doesn't mean the purpose of school is for guys to meet hot girl.
jszhb 1 year ago
@jszhb there are more constructive ways to criticise Islam. For example I uploaded a long video on May 20 as to why I don't believe in Islam, their prophet, or their holy book. I also spent 4 and a half hours debating with DawahFilms and we got more accomplished than simply posting cartoons that serve no constructive purpose.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
To all those who want to do draw Muhammad day. Ware a shirt that says nigger and go into Harlem or something then ware a shirt saying then holocaust didn't happen and go into a Synagogue. isn't that freedom of expression and freedom of speech???
You people doing this simply doing this to provoke people because you have nothing to do but to blame Muslims.
iraqi4ever 1 year ago
I understand his point that we should take the high road.
"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them." Karl Popper
Tolerance of intolerance is intolerance.
mrhnm 1 year ago
A blind man can see that.
mrhnm 1 year ago
The idea of Draw Muhamed Day was to show that their threats were not going to keep us from expressing ourselves.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm tell that to the bigots who hijacked your day to spread their own xenophobia.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie Everyone is a bigot, if you retreat a step today on the matter of free speech tomarrow it will be a mile and in a week free speech won't exist.
Any Muslim who gets offended when a non muslim draws muhamed is a bigot.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm how is the cause of peace and civility promoted by doing something with the sole intention of pissing someone else off?
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie I already told what the point of Draw Muhamed Day was you either have memory problems or are so set in your opinion that the idea you might be wrong hasn't occured to you.
I will tell you again, the point was to not give in to threats. I understand that Draw Muhamed Day by its nature pissed alot of people off.
My point is this if we refuse to say anything that someone might yell "offence" at then we lose our free speech. Is it losing free speech worth not offending people
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm no my point is any criticism of Islam is offensive to some people. However why upload content that has no educational value and is sole purpose is to piss people off. Why not instead tell them what is wrong with their religion. They will get upset just the same, but we don't make ourselves out to look like assholes in the process. A blind man can see that.
Please don't post a comment until you at least watch one tenth of the video you are criticizing.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie I have already pointed out that the purpose of draw muhamed day was not to piss people off. You have stated over and over that the "sole purpose is to piss people off" but that wasn't the purpose.
I have watched your video, its premise is valid. I am not saying that you do not have a point, I am saying that your understanding of the purpose of Draw Muhamed Day in wrong.
If we give into threats ie kill those who critise Islam then we will give away free speech.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm I am saying that your understanding of Draw Muhammad Day is wrong. Regardless of whatever your intentions may have been the point is that it was a counterproductive exercise that only grew the divide between the secular world and the muslim world.
This day was nothing about free speech. It was about the hatred of Islams and the arab world.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie "It was about hatred of Islams and the arab world."
I didn't participate in Draw Muhamed Day because I hate the arab world. I really wouldn't give a damn about Islam if they weren't trying to force it down my throat.
I will not give in and be told how I can and cannot express myself. If you tell me that I can't say something I will say it.
"This day was nothing about free speech" It was proposed because muslims infringed on free speech. Do you propose giving in?
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm ok ok we are a bigot no problem
but if you speak about israel and his agression againt palestines you are waht??
if you ask about the shoa you are what...
there is some subject you cant debate and for us our prophet is so holly than we dont accept that anyone draw it..
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo Here is the deal, non belivers drawing your prophit is the same as non jews eating pork.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm NOOOO its not the same dude
muslims respect who respect them
so you can eat what you want !!!
the prophet is very sacred for us we dont want him to be an object of joke
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo So what? I don't want lots of things to be an object of a joke, people still make fun of them.
Point is non muslims are not subject to the laws of islam. Your religion does not give you the right to censor us. Understand?
Draw Muhammed Day is about not being censored. Its not about offending you! I couldn't care less what you believe, or what your religion is so long as you don't force it on anyone. When muslims start threatening people over that is when I get annoyed.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm we talk about BURN the CORAN day dude...!!!
like the NAZIS does with books in early 20th centuries...
but to answer your question: its about respect...in islam we dont accept drawing our prophet...so when people did that we manisfested against ...without bomb without violence...
your biggest danger is the jewish lobbys that controll your media (tv, news papers..mouvies..etc) and the worsth is that you believe them!!! you believe that islam is violent ...the word islam means peace
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo What do you mean by respect anyway? Do you want people to cow toe to your beliefs? I mean seriously, does respect to you mean doing what you want?
You want me to respect you, but I don't think you respect me. Every time you demand that I do this or that, it shows exactly how much "respect" you have for me.
I want freedom, for myself and everyone else, and part of being free is stating opinions that are going to hurt someones feelings.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm respect is basicly what u said about not hurting people!!!
u r not free dude because u are subject to law...because u are the slave of mass media that tell u to be a dick and dont search for the trueth
u r not free because they teach u to drink COCA eat pop corn and humburger at MAC DONALD and watch the idiots mouvies...
open ur mind and think like a respectuous MAN
you respect all they told u to respect and hate other thinks
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo You know nothing about me. I know I'm not free, though I am freer in the West than I would be under Sharia law. As far as palenstine goes I read a newspaper once and assumed that those idiots over there are still not getting along.
And I didn't tell you to fuck off, I said I might if the mood hit me while smoking a cigerate.
The news paper I read was all over Isreal for invading Palestine. Do you live in the US.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@romantissimo The whole entire issue here as I see it is as follows:
I think anyone should draw the prophit if they want to. I don't think it has anything to do with muslims aside from the fact that their religion is being laughed at.
You think it's disrespectful for someone to draw the prophit. I say it's as disrespectful as a non-Jew eating pork, or working on a Sunday. It has nothing whatsoever to do with them.
You hold your prophit sacred then don't look at the pictures.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@romantissimo No one is above reproach, not islam, not christianity, not judism, not the hindi. The moment we stop questioning is the moment we die.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm i dont tell the opposite you r right
but not with hurt the faith off 1 billard and half persons...
if we were in a place and you smoke and if i cant support the odor of cigarett..and if i tell you to dont smoke what you will do...its all about respect MAN!!!!
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo Well to be honest I don't watch the news, I could not careless about Jews and Muslims killing eachother, and depending on what would I was in while smoking said cigeratte I may tell you to fuck off.
I don't respect anyones religion, I laugh and them all. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to practice it, in fact I'm all for freedom of religion.
You keep demanding respect which makes me not respect you. If you want respect then stop crying about drawing muhamed.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm you didnt said "palestine rokets dude so you watch news (the sionist news of course)
its not about jewish its about sionism (if you know what it is of course)
you have the right to laugh...im not praticant and my faith is not on top but i believe about respect.
when you told me to fuck off dude its mean you are not educated and forced me to teach you respect!!!
romantissimo 1 year ago
@romantissimo You are absolutly right it is about respect, I respect your right to practice your faith, I don't care if their are mosques where I live, and I get upset when people threaten muslims.
Everyone has the right to practice their religion, and if someone threatens that then I will back up muslims all day. But there is a difference between threating your religion and laughing at it man.
And Draw Muhamed Day is about laughing, and not giving into censorship.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@mrhnm you have the right to laugh of what you want but i have the right to disagree with you
for muslims, the prophite cant be treated like that because hes the messenger of god
so muslims have the right to protest (without violence)
99.99% of muslims are no violent and the terrorists ones are not muslims because the word islam = peace in english
but muslims have the right to fight (with violence) the zionist state of israel who kills hundreds of palestinians and occuped their territory
romantissimo 1 year ago
Ironic... when I watch this vid there's a google add with Muslim
LordsOfTheQ 1 year ago
@LordsOfTheQ LOL
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie The fact that bigots participated in Draw Muhamed Day does not invalidate the premise.
mrhnm 1 year ago
@LordsOfTheQ lol right
romantissimo 1 year ago
Draw 9/11 day in the next 9/11! We will draw these cowboys nigga monkeys falling down from the building while Bush high five paul wolfowitz and Cheny! Its gonna be fun!
otabi8 1 year ago
cool story bro
Iampiano 1 year ago
@Iampiano Draw 9/11 day in the next 9/11! We will draw these cowboys nigga monkeys falling down from the building while Bush high five paul wolfowitz and Cheny! Its gonna be fun!
otabi8 1 year ago
@Iampiano Draw 9/11 day in the next 9/11! We will draw these cowboys nigga monkeys falling down from the building while Bush high five paul wolfowitz and Cheny! Its gonna be fun!
otabi8 1 year ago
Hope you research the concept of Taqiyya for debating a Muslim.
robertmike57 1 year ago
@bezunartea then I guess I am racist.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
Subscribed
siekertr21 1 year ago
This is a truly excellent video and you are a truly excellent person. You are espousing calm logic, reason and open debate, and I sincerelt commend you. In fact, the only suggestion I can make is that I would have said "Invitation," rather than "Challenge."
This quibble aside though, I will favourite this video and subscribe as soon as I've posted this comment. I'm not sure if I can be there for the debate, but your intentions already speak volumes.
Ujames1978 1 year ago
If someone is that easily offended, then I think that person deserve to be offended a lot. You can check my video response for Draw Muhammad day if you'd like proof that my drawing WAS an exercise of free speech and WAS NOT an insult meant to offend. Sorry, Cabbie, but I don't buy your argument.
M0US3P0T4TO 1 year ago
@bezunartea all one has to do is read the comments left on some of these draw Muhammad videos to understand the racist undertones of this movement.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie racist undertones? when did islam become a rase,its a belief system.yes there are alot of people who wants to insult and dont care about freedom of expression but it doesnt chance the real reason of draw mohamed day,there are meny muslims who would kill me for drawing him but i wouldnt say all muslims are like this as i no you wouldnt so dont judge draw mohammed day on youtube comments viacom didnt show the cartoons not because thay didnt want to offend but because of threts
MrMorriz1 1 year ago
@MrMorriz1 all too easy just read comments like this one that were left on my video
"Draw 9/11 day in the next 9/11! We will draw these cowboys nigga monkeys falling down from the building while Bush high five paul wolfowitz and Cheny! Its gonna be fun!"
Many racists hijacked Draw Muhammad day to promote their own xenophbia. That is my point.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie i agree there were alot of idiots takeing part who dont care about freedom of speech but it doesnt take away the real reason of draw mohammed day and you said it started with the south park cartoon but it started way befor that in denmark, the southpark thing was the final straw
MrMorriz1 1 year ago
@MrMorriz1 Talking to this guy is immpossible. He doesn't understand the point of Draw Muhamed Day and refuses to acknowledge that the point was to not cave to threats.
In alot of ways he reminds of a Fox News anchor, or a creationist.
mrhnm 1 year ago
a rational debate with an irrational person? let me know how that works out for you.
kossxf 1 year ago
@kossxf stop by and check it out
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
Seriously, why would anyone dislike this video? Honest concern...
AstronautDown 1 year ago
I will certainly be taking part in draw Muhammad day.
Counterproductive my arse :P
holyhell5050 1 year ago
While people have got gratuitously vulgar with drawing Mohammad, it's the Muslims who started all this reacting to valid critiques and even innocuous depictions.
robertmike57 1 year ago
The reason people are gonna be drawing Muhammad is not because they want to piss Muslims off. The intention is to get Muslims to not give a fuck about it, so that the next time someone on TV tries to use the image of Muhammad as a part of a satire (alongside other religious figures) they will not get death threats, because it's not that big of a deal. Desensitization is a huge leap towards more free speech.
goal2004 1 year ago
I'm doing it. I'm not trying to offend convert someone I am simply poking fun of crazy raticals. I know not every muslim isnt a ratical terrorist. I just want some fun and tried of it. Comedy Central pissed me off, like what? Half the show was censored? Lame.
charlie990 1 year ago
may 20th? we gotta wait 8 days? aw..
lol the hairbrush part
xD hahahah
alecshinyuanwu 1 year ago
If DawahFilms accepts, please please pplleeaaassseeeee make a video letting us know so we can go watch it on blogtv :]
xXBr4ndonDXx 1 year ago
I didn't draw a picture of Muhammad to change someone's opinion of Muhammad.
I drew a picture of Muhammad to prove that I was not afraid to draw a picture of Muhammad.
Telling me I can't do something sounds like a challenge to me, so when an entire sect of a religion tells me i can't draw Muhammad, it's my job to prove to them that I can.
It's not about offending them, it's not about making think differently.
It's a case of me saying Yes I Will one more time then they can say No You Can't
vesman81 1 year ago
@vesman81 Exactly. Well put and totally agree.
petefentonp 1 year ago
@vesman81 want a cookie for a drawing that a 4 year old can do? you accomplished a lot in your life i bet
enforceOM 1 year ago
@enforceOM i don't see your drawing anywhere.
vesman81 1 year ago
@vesman81 Excellently worded. I concur wholeheartedly.
M0US3P0T4TO 1 year ago
Draw Muhammed day isn't about pissing people off, it's about defending our right to free speech. To show that the right to speak freely isn't negotiable and it will not be threatened or taken away.
PlanckEpoch 1 year ago
i hope the blog tv thing works out i kinda want to ask some questions and be in that audience !
pokerkid6 1 year ago
Drama llamas are funny
HAL9000unit 1 year ago
firs- nah im just kidding and i respect you're opinion on draw Mohammad day i think you're the only sane person left on youtube!
oo7nikp 1 year ago
Hey Happy. I never heard anyone say that the point of drawing Muhammad was to try to convert Muslims. So I'm a bit puzzled about where you got that. I understood the purpose of this was to vigorously exercise your right to free speech.
The merits of intentionally insulting religion can be argued, but I understand this as being a counterweight to radicals who try to silence opposing opinions with threats of violence. I agree with you that the great majority of Muslims are not violent.
TIPinkUnicorn 1 year ago
@jjason55740 I agree that being neutral isn't always the answer, although I can understand he doesn't go around calling Mohammed a pedophile, unless someone get's the same steam as the Cartoonist. Cabbies intentions are good, but think about groups you know, Do moderate christians care at all if you make fun of Jesus? they might not like it but I think they will be pretty indifferent to it, and I think it's the same with Muslims, most of them are sensible.
medallish 1 year ago
@jjason55740 I am not Muslim. I do not have a culture that admires a pedophile warlord. And I don't see how drawing Mohammad does anything to show that I disagree with pedophilia, etc. I think my own words will suffice for that. And nobody has ever scared me away from publicly acknowledging my opinion. No, not even where I live, where my opinion is very unpopular.
bryantulsa 1 year ago
Draw muhammad day is a childish idea and i completely agree with you HappyCabbie.
legion696 1 year ago
That's cool idea. I hope he takes the offer, it would be interesting
Katfellow 1 year ago
HappyCabbie, it's not about insulting people, the guy who said so was misunderstanding the whole idea, it's showing that we won't be intimidated when they say: We will kill the Danish cartoonist because he used free speech.
This is exactly to show them that we won't bend over for their threats, it's showing that we will never surrender our free speech, I think you will appreciate that.
And the Muslims who aren't crazy, won't care about drawings about Muhammed
medallish 1 year ago
....and let US know ahead of time, what time it will take place. Cheers!
Hereticbooks 1 year ago
@jjason55740 Nobody is saying you can't make satire of anyone, religious or political. Immature, stupid, silly and even hateful speech is still free speech. But just because I believe a person has a right to say insulting things doesn't mean the best way to defend that right is to also say insulting things.
Porn is free speech, too. That doesn't mean I'm going to film a porno.
I would rather talk about the virtues of free speech than join anyone in the gutter.
bryantulsa 1 year ago
I'm not going to criticise a large group of people without passing th econtext, but some muslims seriously need to slack their fists a little. It's about "respect" they say, even though they're burning flags and stoning people to death in their motherland. Satire is a very old humoristic art, alot of people have been made fun of through satire, but when some 2000 year old religious symbol that is completely impersonal to the average muslim is getting picked at, it's SRS BIZ for some reason
sentimoko 1 year ago
@sentimoko
Actually he's much older than 2000 years, I mixed muhammad with jesus lol :)
sentimoko 1 year ago
@sentimoko
I think mohammad came around somewhere in the vicinity of 600 A.D.
Hereticbooks 1 year ago
but why may 20 ? ;o)
Care4alot 1 year ago
@Care4alot because that is "Draw Muhammad Day"
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie lol my mistake ... thanks ;o)
Care4alot 1 year ago
Personally, I feel that while the "Draw Muhammud Day" may be offensive, their religion and willingness to kill and hurt people is much more so,,,
This is just our thumbing our nose at them, or defiance. However I am with you that this may not be the most productive coarse of action.
dannukesem 1 year ago
@dannukesem lets hope so
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
I hope DawahFilms takes you up on your offer...!
spaceman300 1 year ago
@spaceman300 he did read his comment below
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
@HappyCabbie I just read his comment.....Cool ;)
spaceman300 1 year ago
I think this is a much better idea than the 'draw Mohammad' thing. I've never seen a good, clear explanation of how it promotes free speech. Sure, it exercises free speech, but promote it? I think it's far more likely to promote childishness and bigotry.
I hope DawahFilms takes you up on the debate offer. I would like to see that. I *do* think Muslims and nonbelievers can have a calm, rational conversation. I've had many such conversations myself (see recent videos).
bryantulsa 1 year ago
@bryantulsa read Dawah's commment below.
HappyCabbie 1 year ago
I think you missed the point of it. The point of draw Muhammad day wasn't to convince people (your right there), its just too glorify free speech, regardless of who is offended. We have basic freedoms in the 1st world, one of them is drawing something that some idiots have regarded sacred. Hate speech (bloodthirsty maniacs) is however NOT one of those freedoms (to an extent), especially not following through with it.
fhm629 1 year ago
I agree, if this is just to piss off a group it is not a good thing. But I've heard alot of muslims say why they won't participate, they agree with our right to do it. I don't know that I will participate, but someone has to take a stand against the extremists eventually. Will it offend? Yes, but I'm offended that people are killed for the simple act of drawing a picture..... I hope the imagies are tactful but not purly offensive.
SpittD 1 year ago
I get where you're coming from. You should take a look at the video LatumWay put up after the South Park incident. It was one of the most reasoned responses to the situation I have seen on YouTube thus far.
You should be able to find it if you search his name with 'Depictions of Muhammed'.
I'm looking forward to the BlogTV (if DawahFilms chooses to take part), if you need Ops to help keep out trolls let me know.
notinmyname2050 1 year ago
All glory to the hairbrush!
Eodred 1 year ago