The fact that in the Japanese version of this game that Big Boss is played by Akio Otsuka's father makes this more touching... I bet Akio Otsuka cried while doing this scene...
No they purposely genetically engineered him to age like that. So he's supposed to age the way he did. (It's explained in that incredibly long cutscene with naomi in act 2) The reason foxdie is a problem is because the original virus, which was designed only to affect people with a specific genetic code using Snake as a vector, has mutated so that it can potentially affect EVERYONE regardless of their DNA, which is quite a problem. That being said, snake realized to stop it he
had to commit suicide. However, Big Boss revealed that the patriots had Drebin inject snake with an updated version of foxdie that cancelled out the defective mutated version, that was supposed to remain pure and unmutated for at least another 12 years, giving Snake the time to live out the rest of his life in peace. Yeah I know, it's complicated.
You guys remember the ending song in the mgs3? Way to fall.. Im going to take the lyrics and show snake getting thrown to the ground :D Son you got a way to fall :D
That look on Snake's face, I don't know if that was from utter shock and disbelief that Big Boss was alive and then HUGGED him, or if it was discomfort.
I effectively did this to a friend at a Halloween party yesterday. He came as Solid Snake and I as Naked Snake, respectively. In retrospect, what we did wasn't nearly as cool as Big Boss' actual move, but I think it was a modest tribute. I recited what little I could of the "Outer Heaven" speech from the end of Peace Walker to a couple of friends, but that too could have been much better ^_^
@MessageInBlood1 What is solid snake now? with his excellerated aging like 2 fox dyes in him one mutating. Plus he just finished a HUGE battle. The man is beat to hell.
WOW MAN! HE FUCKING SHOVED HIM! THAT'S SO BADASS!!!! And TOTALLY makes up for being beat by some rookie who was unarmed for most of the fight and just so happened to find a lighter and spraycan laying around.
Last week, I shoved a guy at school. THAT MEANS IM JUST AS KEWL AS BIG BOSS!!!!!!
@JohnKiller118 Rofl....if it was a real fight, solid snake would have been dead...just like how I can take a gun away from your pussy ass and knock the fuk u down son! WAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! big boss > solid snake...noob. lulz
@MessageInBlood1 Big Boss didn't take Snake's gun away in this scene. That is a misconception. Big Boss didn't even touch his gun until after he gave him a hug.
In fact, in MG2, Snake didn't have a gun when he was up against Big Boss (and yes, it WAS a real fucking fight. He was shooting at him WITH THE INTENT TO KILL.) He still beat him though.
"Never give up! Fight until the end, even when the odds are against you!"
@JohnKiller118 No watch the cutscene carefully again retard. Snake obviously could not react fast enough...so big boss came right in front of him and locked him up and that's pretty much over right there...he cud have killed snaked but he had no intention of doing so. snake fought him when big boss was an old man...rofl...in prime big boss would have taken solid snake with a fuking cqc knife and a tranq gun rofl.
@JohnKiller118 and snake is not even a cqc master. The boss and big boss and probably ocelot are true masters of cqc. Even ocelot himself said "When it comes to cqc, I've got the upper hand." This means that snake can't even beat ocelot in cqc. And it's true..solid snake CANT even defeat ocelot! When he fought ocelot in mgs1, ocelot said he was just getting warmed up. But when big boss fought ocelot in mgs3, he made ocelot look bad like a rookie.
@JohnKiller118 Big boss was younger and less experienced too in mgs3. Snake did not beat ocelot in cqc. It was actually because of foxdie that made ocelot lose. If it wasnt for foxdie, he would have continued fighting.
''According to Kessler and the database, Big Boss had Snatcher limbs, negating the "he was old" excuse.''
He did have snatcher limbs but it didnt say anything about negating the old excuse. You are making bs up...
@MessageInBlood1 Bullshit on the Ocelot thing. He was exhausted from the fight. FOXDIE didn't take effect until he had a heart attack. Quit making up bullshit.
Besides, Ocelot kind of kicked Big Boss' ass on the WIG. Not completely, but he still managed to hold his own (he got those cool CQC moves just by WATCHING the Boss and Naked Snake fight.)
Kessler fucking said Snake may as well give up if Big Boss was revived as a Snatcher (which he as.) He won. Snake > Big Boss. You loose. Good day.
@JohnKiller118 It's not bs....look how big boss died...he didn't died all of sudden either...he seemed very exhausted at first and then later the foxdie effect was getting stronger that he couldnt even stanad up....then he died. Same thing for ocelot...he started to feel it and that's y he went down. Dont forget that in act 3, they got into cqc fight with ocelot easily being able to take away snake's m4 and operator and said i got the upper hand in cqc. snake had adavantage cause he had weapons.
@JohnKiller118 the reason why ocelot beat big boss on the wig is because big boss was worn out from the fight against THE BOSS obviously.
And u know that solid snake's era have soldiers with ability enhancing nanomachines...and snake's fighting capabilities were enhanced due to the nanomachines. big boss had none of those
Big boss> snake...you lose! And it's "you lose" not you LOOSE" omfg lulz
@MessageInBlood1 Ocelot showed no signs of having a heart attack until he was on his back exhausted. Big Boss at least clutched his heart. There is little evidence to support that the outcome of the fight was due to Ocelot being weakened by FOXDIE and assuming so would be an illogical fallacy.
The Boss owned Naked Snake three times in MGS3. Guess who won in the end? Quit citing the fucking Volta scene.
@JohnKiller118 Big boss didnt show sign of heart attack either but he died after he showed himself exhausted..so your argument is invalid! lolz. This is not a matter of having evidence because he WAS infected by foxdie for sure..lulz and dont forget that octocamo increases the strength of solid snake. Octacon said it.
''The Boss owned Naked Snake three times in MGS3. Guess who won in the end? Quit citing the fucking Volta scene.''
@MessageInBlood1 Big Boss clenched is heart in the scene after he killed Zero.
Snake's octocamo was fucked up because of the microwave room. And Ocelot regained some of his health between fight sessions.
"And what does this have to do with any of this?"
I'm telling you to quit citing the Volta scene. Otherwise, I could say "oh yeah man, the Boss is TOTALLY more badass than Big Boss." And hey, her mission WAS to die, so if you're going to pull that FOXDIE shit, I could say the Boss let BB win.
@JohnKiller118 You don't know that if it was completely broken. The solid eye was but only some parts of the octocamp was ripped off. It was still working.
Play mgs peace walker....big boss doesnt think that he surpassed the boss in mgs3 but in peace walker, he finally believes that he surpassed the boss. So big boss > the boss> solid snake..pwned.
@MessageInBlood1 (cont.) Ocelot had a robotic arm. Those ripped parts fucked up allot of the suit's muscle suit capabilities.
I'm not saying Big Boss didn't prove to be a better fighter than the Boss, but your logic is shitty. If I said "oh yeah, I'm WAY more badass than Hulk Hogan", how does that make it true?
@MessageInBlood1 (cont.) Snake got done beating Raging Raven before he fought the Boss. She was a REAL bitch.
lol@the nanomachines thing. Quit pulling shit out of your ass. Nanomachines weren't introduced until MGS1 you fucking moron. Snake didn't have that shit in Zanzibar Land.
I like how you conveniently ignore my argument about Kessler telling Snake he may as well give up since Big Boss is a Snatcher. And you kee[ forgetting that HE WAS FUCKING UNARMED!
@JohnKiller118 Ocelot still said he's got the upper hand in cqc, meaning that he's superior than solid snake and it's true.
no nanomachines does enhance soldiers. I believe he did have them in two previous games.
The thing about kessler and this snatcher doesnt mean whole alot. I'm pretty much comparing big boss in his prime vs solid in his prime and I say big boss was the superior soldier. It's just not fair to have the young energetic snake fight old big boss when he's like 60 years old
@JohnKiller118 and you know that solid snake's fighting abilties belong to big boss. The fights between the two in outer heaven and zanzibar was like young big boss vs old big boss. It just aint fair. But in mgs4 ending, they are both old and they had a little fight in this vid..look wat happend..big boss easily took care of snake. You have no counter argument for this because snake obviously fuking lost! Big boss= the greatest soldier...solid snake= just a shadow of big boss and the patriots!
@MessageInBlood1 So if Otacon said he has the upper hand at CQC, that makes it true?
Nanomachines weren't even created in MG2. Naomi made them (and FOXDIE) to get revenge on Snake... for what he did in MG2.
Five seconds of doing nothing special doesn't make up for being beaten by a rookie with inferior genes and a crappy makeshift flamethrower, especially when you're hailed as the greatest soldier ever enhanced by Snatcher limbs.
@JohnKiller118 U know that ocelot is not the guy to make bs up.
You have no idea. A fight actually COULD last only 5 seconds. Have u ever seen a real fight b4? And big boss didn't have snatcher limbs in metal gear. So this snatcher bs is not much of a big deal. The fact is that snake did lose in the cqc scene. BIg boss would have won this if he wanted to take down snake.
@MessageInBlood1 "U know that ocelot is not the guy to make bs up."
He's a chronic backstabber. He LIVES on bullshit.
I don't care if Big Boss didn't have Snatcher limbs in MG1. He still had them in MG2, and Snake STILL BEAT HIM REGARDLESS.
This "fight" wasn't a full fight because Big Boss hugged Snake before it could even begin. Just because Snake had a rough start doesn't mean he couldn't get overcome it. You're dancing on music that isn't there.
@MessageInBlood1 Whatever man. Go ahead and keep telling yourself that shoving someone and then giving him a hug means that guy got owned. I've had enough of you.
@alchoholicsementhful No. The game made a big deal about how low Snake's chances of survival against Big Boss were. Made up sports card statistics doesn't change that the fact that the STORY and the CANON says Solid Snake beat Big Boss, fair and square.
Look up the Database (where you're not in control of anyone.) Guess what? It says Snake beat Big Boss.
How come I don't see people calling BB beating The Boss/those crazy AI mechs from Peace Walker "plot-armor"?
And no, Big Boss gave everything he got. He said Snake had no chance against him. I can prove that he expected to win with a single fact; when the fight started, Big Boss had a GUN. Snake did NOT.
"Copy" my ass. You realize that Solid Snake starred in Metal Gear games long before Big Boss did, right? Or that the first game was about the ethics of cloning and whether or not clones can be counted as individuals? (answer; yes they can. Fuck genes.)
@JMG9519 And of course clones can be counted as individuals, I haven't said something like that. I ment the storyline, not witch person there was to begin with.
Don't forget that Big boss was one of the main characters (father figure to solid even at msx) in the first games too. Kojima's changed sight of things, you can't just say Big Boss is an asshole
As I said, they would also be different. If I'm not mistaken "project ogre" sounds like a remake poject of MG1+2. let's just wait and see.
@HoFabii (cont.) I never really said anything about Big Boss being an asshole, but if you want to get into that;
Big Mamma: They had both misinterpreted her will.
Big Boss [to Snake]: If you had been in my place back then... maybe you wouldn't have made... the same mistakes that I did...
He was regretful about his actions. He misunderstood what The Boss wanted and acted on that. He was glad Snake fixed everything. Nothing about Big Boss during Outer Heaven and Zanzibar changed.
@HoFabii (cont.) Don't get me wrong, both are still cool. I just get agitated when I see retards like MessageInBlood1 go on about how "hurr durr snake iz a fuken pussy big boss OWNZ."
Fuck him. I played MGS3 first and still liked Solid more. He has a very tragic story that's very subtly told, unlike in MGS3 or PW where the games shove in your face how much BB admires The Boss. He's the ultimate hero. I cherish what he says at the end of MGS2 like it was gold.
@JMG9519 Agreed. I don't like such noobs either. & I get your point but there is no way you could convince me to prefear Solid. And as I said, Kojima's sight of things's changed, he problably wouldn't let Solid standing therre unarmed etc. The story Of BB was more touching for me. But hey Solid is genous too.I'm getting the feeling we two are like Jack and David fighting each other so let's end this "battle"with a CQC hug shell we? MGS fans aren't supposed to argue against each other :D
@HoFabii Oh, I wasn't trying to get you to like Solid more. That would be no better than what MessageInBlood1 was doing to me (on another account.)
All I'm going to say is; if Kojima wanted to change the story, he would remove Naomi's line about BB being "badly burnt" in the briefing files of MGS1. Or at least have the Database retcon it, like they did to explain why Naomi didn't know why Dr.Clark was a woman.
@JMG9519 Yeah, you know, I'm just hoping Kokima is reamkign the first three titles: MG1, MG2, MGS1, or at least one of them, to get the story in an order again. There has been some rumors that the Konami president caused.
BIG BOSS...TOOK AWAY THE GUN FROM SNAKE HANDS THEN PUT BACK AND GIVE HIM A HUGE...EVEN IF THEY WHERE ENEMIES.....THAT FOUGTH FOR THE SAME REASON BE FREE..........BIG BOSS ALWAYS LOVE HIS ALL SONS SOLIDUS,LIQUID,AND SOLID SNAKE .......BUT LIKE THE BOSS AND BIG BOSS SAID THE WORLD HIS BETTER WITH OUT SNAKES.......
This is a good way to hug a girl, because it shows how manly you are by whipping her around a bit, and yet, you can show just enough sympathy to hug her.
Yeah.....it's hard to tell right from wrong in this series lol, thanks for clarifying. The first cutscene in act 2 really threw me for a loop the first time through.
@hjnsf if you played MGS4, it explains there were never any bad guys to begin with, just 2 different confused good guys going against one another while trying to carry on the will of a single person. and all of that happening while the clone son is caught in the middle.
Wow, This man is really Big Boss. You can tell by just looking at his posture and speed when doing CQC that he is not an opponent you would like to fight. Just understand this scene, He STOPPED snake without even a gun or knife while snake had a gun. Not so much the hug but the respect of being called Big Boss is what you can see and understand in those few seconds.
one thing i dont understand is how big boss survivd trough all the games, and yoou kill him in Metal gear 2: Solid Snake and you cant see that big boss has ben burnt in the face.... just kinda wierd
im a dude, a hardcore metal gear fan. and this game made me emotional... arrrgghhh wat does that mean?? anyone else get emotional a few times in this game?
Who else agrees this should be a move for CQC EX in Metal Gear Online? It sure as heck would make the skill more worthwhile in my opinion, countering is nice, but a counter AND a hug would just be plain epic.
I just wish Snake would have been like, "Daddy!" lol Loved that they brought Big Boss back. He was always my favorite character with Snake as my second. Both Pawn all.
Fail. Big Boss didn't exist back then - and how the hell would you have liked him back when he was the main villain in Metal Gears 1 and 2 which I HIGHLY doubt either of us were around for. (jking)
Actually he did exist as the primary antagonist in the first 2 games. True it was just a picture on the codec but it was what he talked about in the transmissions that got my attention. I admired Big Boss for his beliefs.
one of my fav momments in mgs4 :") .... i have some questions when solid snake was on the grave who grave was it? (big mama, the boss?) and where he found patriot? ofc the compination patiot with flowers must be some kind of easter egg from the mgs3 scenes
The grave Solid was standing before was the supposed grave of Big Boss. It was put there, next to the Boss's grave, to let the world think Big Boss really died in Zanzibar Land all those years ago...
Excuse me while I dry my eyes...
Gunner193 17 hours ago
at :04 it looks as if Big Boss stabbed Snake. Then at :05 it showed Big Boss was actually catching his fall and embracing him.
I think Hideo wanted us to catch that moment but it went by so fast D:
CrisisTen 2 weeks ago
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HoFabii 3 weeks ago
Who the hell cares who is stronger? It is a beautiful moment and that is all what matters.
chubistian1 2 months ago
MGS1 should have been in the MGS HD Collection
FoxyhoundEmployee 3 months ago
I miss Snake Eater :( old Jack
EpicVblogs 5 months ago
Reported for child abuse. (xD)
pkrissz 6 months ago
Okay, this is epic and all, amazing game....bt i was totally waiting for him to say "grasshopper"
Fallenemiko 6 months ago
0:05 and on looks(and sounds) like he's raping him.
jak23ft 6 months ago
Close quarter Cuddles
JBhitman6 7 months ago 23
The fact that in the Japanese version of this game that Big Boss is played by Akio Otsuka's father makes this more touching... I bet Akio Otsuka cried while doing this scene...
Ebb1993isgreat 8 months ago
Yay! Father/Son bonding!...And then he dies... :\ Way to ruin the moment Kojima
xXShadowsXFallXx 10 months ago
i really hope finds a cure to foxdie that lets him become young again
BigPimp14 1 year ago
@BigPimp14
Believe it or not foxdie has absolutely nothing to do with his aging : |
Manofaction0 10 months ago
@Manofaction0 so why is he aged? defect in the bio engineering of his dna?
BigPimp14 10 months ago
@BigPimp14
No they purposely genetically engineered him to age like that. So he's supposed to age the way he did. (It's explained in that incredibly long cutscene with naomi in act 2) The reason foxdie is a problem is because the original virus, which was designed only to affect people with a specific genetic code using Snake as a vector, has mutated so that it can potentially affect EVERYONE regardless of their DNA, which is quite a problem. That being said, snake realized to stop it he
Manofaction0 10 months ago
@BigPimp14
had to commit suicide. However, Big Boss revealed that the patriots had Drebin inject snake with an updated version of foxdie that cancelled out the defective mutated version, that was supposed to remain pure and unmutated for at least another 12 years, giving Snake the time to live out the rest of his life in peace. Yeah I know, it's complicated.
Manofaction0 10 months ago
@Manofaction0 my whole comment was about his aging. not why foxdie hadnt killed him yet.
BigPimp14 10 months ago
@Manofaction0 i figured it out. its cell deterioration due to the cloning process
BigPimp14 10 months ago
epic hug
thenewmase 1 year ago
All together, everyone: D'awwwww...
ChazFoxMCR 1 year ago
Not bad for a 97 year old.
habsruleleafsdrule 1 year ago
In Soviet Russia, one eyed Sean Connery hugs you!
lSolidSnakel 1 year ago 5
Man...if only he had used this move on Volgin...there would never have been a Shagohod battle!
RedRocker9957 1 year ago 3
You guys remember the ending song in the mgs3? Way to fall.. Im going to take the lyrics and show snake getting thrown to the ground :D Son you got a way to fall :D
jm42fun 1 year ago
Epic game
10asturias 1 year ago
I would love to see someone do this in a real fight. It would be hilarious.
RickyV300 1 year ago
Best fucking videogame ending ever!
yusbarrett 1 year ago 3
80 years old and he still a master at cqc
djchrist15 1 year ago
That look on Snake's face, I don't know if that was from utter shock and disbelief that Big Boss was alive and then HUGGED him, or if it was discomfort.
jokemasterslifer 1 year ago 4
Big Boss wins
FRIENDSHIP
drvince0426 1 year ago
Snake hugged himself
ila6435 1 year ago
This is the result of the best parenting you could ever ask for.
CHamlin86 1 year ago 6
manly tears were shed.
Sypher782 1 year ago
i could never find this song...what is it called?
punisher202000 1 year ago
@punisher202000 Father/son
SuperKittyPancake 1 year ago
@punisher202000 Father and Son, from the metal gear solid 4 OST
yusbarrett 1 year ago
Dad...
sompret 1 year ago
this was the hug that killed big boss
filly255 1 year ago
@filly255 Unfortunately, but it was definitely worth it for him. Most manly hug in history.
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arlenewatson1 1 year ago
Manly tears were shed
St1mi 1 year ago 32
@St1mi manly MANLY tears and never let anyone tell you otherwise!! mine was the final salute to the boss........we are the real fans
earthpit1 7 months ago
I effectively did this to a friend at a Halloween party yesterday. He came as Solid Snake and I as Naked Snake, respectively. In retrospect, what we did wasn't nearly as cool as Big Boss' actual move, but I think it was a modest tribute. I recited what little I could of the "Outer Heaven" speech from the end of Peace Walker to a couple of friends, but that too could have been much better ^_^
cloudbroken 1 year ago
Naked Snake owns Old Snake.
Father owns Son....makes the kid love him.
LaRueDeeko 1 year ago 6
CQC MADA FUHKAA!
VitaminBOB 1 year ago 2
There goes his PSHYC gage
rrreeewww9 1 year ago
its chuck norris and snake and then came the big bang
auti01 1 year ago
big boss: oh shit, hes got a gun, CQC HUG ATTACK, THE BOSS TAUGHT ME THIS
its super effective!
Snake: omg, wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HES FUCKING BEAR HUGGING MY ASS!
thanatos241 1 year ago 5
big boss can pwn solid snake...nuff said
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1
Solid Snake already pwned him twice anyhows.
Arppis 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 have you forgot what happed in the firs two metal gears? for the NES. Read up on your metal gear history.
ghostsnakedeadpool 1 year ago
@ghostsnakedeadpool You need to do some reading urself. Do you not know that big boss was old as hell in those two games. So he was not in his prime.
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 What is solid snake now? with his excellerated aging like 2 fox dyes in him one mutating. Plus he just finished a HUGE battle. The man is beat to hell.
ghostsnakedeadpool 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 SOLID SNAKE BEAT HIM WITH NOTHING BUT A LIGHTER AND A SPRAY CAN.
PLAY METAL GEAR 2
SNAKE WINS
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 watch the ending in mgs4 and yes i have those two games for mgs3 sub
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 I did watch this.
WOW MAN! HE FUCKING SHOVED HIM! THAT'S SO BADASS!!!! And TOTALLY makes up for being beat by some rookie who was unarmed for most of the fight and just so happened to find a lighter and spraycan laying around.
Last week, I shoved a guy at school. THAT MEANS IM JUST AS KEWL AS BIG BOSS!!!!!!
Shut the fuck up. This scene doesn't prove shit.
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 Rofl....if it was a real fight, solid snake would have been dead...just like how I can take a gun away from your pussy ass and knock the fuk u down son! WAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! big boss > solid snake...noob. lulz
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 Big Boss didn't take Snake's gun away in this scene. That is a misconception. Big Boss didn't even touch his gun until after he gave him a hug.
In fact, in MG2, Snake didn't have a gun when he was up against Big Boss (and yes, it WAS a real fucking fight. He was shooting at him WITH THE INTENT TO KILL.) He still beat him though.
"Never give up! Fight until the end, even when the odds are against you!"
Solid Snake >>>> Big Boss
You loose, noob.
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 No watch the cutscene carefully again retard. Snake obviously could not react fast enough...so big boss came right in front of him and locked him up and that's pretty much over right there...he cud have killed snaked but he had no intention of doing so. snake fought him when big boss was an old man...rofl...in prime big boss would have taken solid snake with a fuking cqc knife and a tranq gun rofl.
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 and snake is not even a cqc master. The boss and big boss and probably ocelot are true masters of cqc. Even ocelot himself said "When it comes to cqc, I've got the upper hand." This means that snake can't even beat ocelot in cqc. And it's true..solid snake CANT even defeat ocelot! When he fought ocelot in mgs1, ocelot said he was just getting warmed up. But when big boss fought ocelot in mgs3, he made ocelot look bad like a rookie.
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago 2
@MessageInBlood1 Ocelot was younger and less experienced in MGS3.
Snake beat Ocelot in CQC on top of Outer Haven.
According to Kessler and the database, Big Boss had Snatcher limbs, negating the "he was old" excuse.
Solid Snake > Big Boss. Deal with it.
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 Big boss was younger and less experienced too in mgs3. Snake did not beat ocelot in cqc. It was actually because of foxdie that made ocelot lose. If it wasnt for foxdie, he would have continued fighting.
''According to Kessler and the database, Big Boss had Snatcher limbs, negating the "he was old" excuse.''
He did have snatcher limbs but it didnt say anything about negating the old excuse. You are making bs up...
sorry big boss > solid snake.
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 Bullshit on the Ocelot thing. He was exhausted from the fight. FOXDIE didn't take effect until he had a heart attack. Quit making up bullshit.
Besides, Ocelot kind of kicked Big Boss' ass on the WIG. Not completely, but he still managed to hold his own (he got those cool CQC moves just by WATCHING the Boss and Naked Snake fight.)
Kessler fucking said Snake may as well give up if Big Boss was revived as a Snatcher (which he as.) He won. Snake > Big Boss. You loose. Good day.
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 *was
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 It's not bs....look how big boss died...he didn't died all of sudden either...he seemed very exhausted at first and then later the foxdie effect was getting stronger that he couldnt even stanad up....then he died. Same thing for ocelot...he started to feel it and that's y he went down. Dont forget that in act 3, they got into cqc fight with ocelot easily being able to take away snake's m4 and operator and said i got the upper hand in cqc. snake had adavantage cause he had weapons.
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 the reason why ocelot beat big boss on the wig is because big boss was worn out from the fight against THE BOSS obviously.
And u know that solid snake's era have soldiers with ability enhancing nanomachines...and snake's fighting capabilities were enhanced due to the nanomachines. big boss had none of those
Big boss> snake...you lose! And it's "you lose" not you LOOSE" omfg lulz
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 Ocelot showed no signs of having a heart attack until he was on his back exhausted. Big Boss at least clutched his heart. There is little evidence to support that the outcome of the fight was due to Ocelot being weakened by FOXDIE and assuming so would be an illogical fallacy.
The Boss owned Naked Snake three times in MGS3. Guess who won in the end? Quit citing the fucking Volta scene.
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 Big boss didnt show sign of heart attack either but he died after he showed himself exhausted..so your argument is invalid! lolz. This is not a matter of having evidence because he WAS infected by foxdie for sure..lulz and dont forget that octocamo increases the strength of solid snake. Octacon said it.
''The Boss owned Naked Snake three times in MGS3. Guess who won in the end? Quit citing the fucking Volta scene.''
And what does this has anything to do with this?
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 Big Boss clenched is heart in the scene after he killed Zero.
Snake's octocamo was fucked up because of the microwave room. And Ocelot regained some of his health between fight sessions.
"And what does this have to do with any of this?"
I'm telling you to quit citing the Volta scene. Otherwise, I could say "oh yeah man, the Boss is TOTALLY more badass than Big Boss." And hey, her mission WAS to die, so if you're going to pull that FOXDIE shit, I could say the Boss let BB win.
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 You don't know that if it was completely broken. The solid eye was but only some parts of the octocamp was ripped off. It was still working.
Play mgs peace walker....big boss doesnt think that he surpassed the boss in mgs3 but in peace walker, he finally believes that he surpassed the boss. So big boss > the boss> solid snake..pwned.
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 (cont.) Ocelot had a robotic arm. Those ripped parts fucked up allot of the suit's muscle suit capabilities.
I'm not saying Big Boss didn't prove to be a better fighter than the Boss, but your logic is shitty. If I said "oh yeah, I'm WAY more badass than Hulk Hogan", how does that make it true?
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 (cont.) Snake got done beating Raging Raven before he fought the Boss. She was a REAL bitch.
lol@the nanomachines thing. Quit pulling shit out of your ass. Nanomachines weren't introduced until MGS1 you fucking moron. Snake didn't have that shit in Zanzibar Land.
I like how you conveniently ignore my argument about Kessler telling Snake he may as well give up since Big Boss is a Snatcher. And you kee[ forgetting that HE WAS FUCKING UNARMED!
SOLID SNAKE >>> BIG BOSS
YOU
LOOSE
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 Ocelot still said he's got the upper hand in cqc, meaning that he's superior than solid snake and it's true.
no nanomachines does enhance soldiers. I believe he did have them in two previous games.
The thing about kessler and this snatcher doesnt mean whole alot. I'm pretty much comparing big boss in his prime vs solid in his prime and I say big boss was the superior soldier. It's just not fair to have the young energetic snake fight old big boss when he's like 60 years old
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 and you know that solid snake's fighting abilties belong to big boss. The fights between the two in outer heaven and zanzibar was like young big boss vs old big boss. It just aint fair. But in mgs4 ending, they are both old and they had a little fight in this vid..look wat happend..big boss easily took care of snake. You have no counter argument for this because snake obviously fuking lost! Big boss= the greatest soldier...solid snake= just a shadow of big boss and the patriots!
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 So if Otacon said he has the upper hand at CQC, that makes it true?
Nanomachines weren't even created in MG2. Naomi made them (and FOXDIE) to get revenge on Snake... for what he did in MG2.
Five seconds of doing nothing special doesn't make up for being beaten by a rookie with inferior genes and a crappy makeshift flamethrower, especially when you're hailed as the greatest soldier ever enhanced by Snatcher limbs.
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 U know that ocelot is not the guy to make bs up.
You have no idea. A fight actually COULD last only 5 seconds. Have u ever seen a real fight b4? And big boss didn't have snatcher limbs in metal gear. So this snatcher bs is not much of a big deal. The fact is that snake did lose in the cqc scene. BIg boss would have won this if he wanted to take down snake.
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 "U know that ocelot is not the guy to make bs up."
He's a chronic backstabber. He LIVES on bullshit.
I don't care if Big Boss didn't have Snatcher limbs in MG1. He still had them in MG2, and Snake STILL BEAT HIM REGARDLESS.
This "fight" wasn't a full fight because Big Boss hugged Snake before it could even begin. Just because Snake had a rough start doesn't mean he couldn't get overcome it. You're dancing on music that isn't there.
Solid Snake > Big Boss. Deal with it.
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 No it was a full fight...snake obivously lost in 5 seconds to big boss the cqc master. ROFL that's how fast snake got pwned.
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@MessageInBlood1 Whatever man. Go ahead and keep telling yourself that shoving someone and then giving him a hug means that guy got owned. I've had enough of you.
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 You really think someone who has hard time beating ocelot is stronger than big boss? WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
@JohnKiller118 when BB was pushing his 60s...
In his prime, BB would have taken Solid apart. On top of that, he beat Old Snake despite being even OLDER..
ZettaiGARGattai 5 months ago 2
@ZettaiGARGattai "when BB was pushing his 60s..."
And had a gun.
All Snake had was a lighter and spray can, which he had to find on his own.
All Big Boss did in this scene was shove him.
JMG9519 5 months ago
@JMG9519 It really shows that he who is being controlled by the player(plot-armor) wins.
alchoholicsementhful 2 months ago
@alchoholicsementhful No. The game made a big deal about how low Snake's chances of survival against Big Boss were. Made up sports card statistics doesn't change that the fact that the STORY and the CANON says Solid Snake beat Big Boss, fair and square.
Look up the Database (where you're not in control of anyone.) Guess what? It says Snake beat Big Boss.
How come I don't see people calling BB beating The Boss/those crazy AI mechs from Peace Walker "plot-armor"?
JMG9519 2 months ago
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HoFabii 3 weeks ago
@HoFabii Big Boss HAD A GUN.
And no, Big Boss gave everything he got. He said Snake had no chance against him. I can prove that he expected to win with a single fact; when the fight started, Big Boss had a GUN. Snake did NOT.
"Copy" my ass. You realize that Solid Snake starred in Metal Gear games long before Big Boss did, right? Or that the first game was about the ethics of cloning and whether or not clones can be counted as individuals? (answer; yes they can. Fuck genes.)
JMG9519 3 weeks ago
@JMG9519 And of course clones can be counted as individuals, I haven't said something like that. I ment the storyline, not witch person there was to begin with.
Don't forget that Big boss was one of the main characters (father figure to solid even at msx) in the first games too. Kojima's changed sight of things, you can't just say Big Boss is an asshole
As I said, they would also be different. If I'm not mistaken "project ogre" sounds like a remake poject of MG1+2. let's just wait and see.
HoFabii 3 weeks ago
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@JMG9519 By the way, Kojima put it in the newer games. Big boss wanted to be killed.
It is Hideo's decision how he is forming the story. No need to proove for ust hat Big Boss is an "asshole" because of some outdatet storyfacts.
watch?v=VOUeR1v5uZ4&feature=related
But: I still like oth of them.
HoFabii 3 weeks ago
@HoFabii Snake saying that Big Boss wanted to die =/= Big Boss let Snake win. Again, Big Boss had a GUN. Snake did NOT.
The Boss wanted to die too. It was her mission. But wait, if you just stand there, she kills you.
Sure, Big Boss was in the first two games, but Kojima didn't make him Snake's dad until MGS1. Until then he was just Snake's respected CO.
Naked Snake in MGS3/PW is Solid Snake + "omg che gervara is so awsum fight 4 da peeple bro!"
(continued in next reply)
JMG9519 3 weeks ago
@HoFabii (cont.) I never really said anything about Big Boss being an asshole, but if you want to get into that;
Big Mamma: They had both misinterpreted her will.
Big Boss [to Snake]: If you had been in my place back then... maybe you wouldn't have made... the same mistakes that I did...
He was regretful about his actions. He misunderstood what The Boss wanted and acted on that. He was glad Snake fixed everything. Nothing about Big Boss during Outer Heaven and Zanzibar changed.
JMG9519 3 weeks ago
@HoFabii (cont.) Don't get me wrong, both are still cool. I just get agitated when I see retards like MessageInBlood1 go on about how "hurr durr snake iz a fuken pussy big boss OWNZ."
Fuck him. I played MGS3 first and still liked Solid more. He has a very tragic story that's very subtly told, unlike in MGS3 or PW where the games shove in your face how much BB admires The Boss. He's the ultimate hero. I cherish what he says at the end of MGS2 like it was gold.
JMG9519 3 weeks ago
@JMG9519 Agreed. I don't like such noobs either. & I get your point but there is no way you could convince me to prefear Solid. And as I said, Kojima's sight of things's changed, he problably wouldn't let Solid standing therre unarmed etc. The story Of BB was more touching for me. But hey Solid is genous too.I'm getting the feeling we two are like Jack and David fighting each other so let's end this "battle"with a CQC hug shell we? MGS fans aren't supposed to argue against each other :D
HoFabii 3 weeks ago
@HoFabii Oh, I wasn't trying to get you to like Solid more. That would be no better than what MessageInBlood1 was doing to me (on another account.)
All I'm going to say is; if Kojima wanted to change the story, he would remove Naomi's line about BB being "badly burnt" in the briefing files of MGS1. Or at least have the Database retcon it, like they did to explain why Naomi didn't know why Dr.Clark was a woman.
Anyway, :cqc hugs:
JMG9519 3 weeks ago
@JMG9519 Yeah, you know, I'm just hoping Kokima is reamkign the first three titles: MG1, MG2, MGS1, or at least one of them, to get the story in an order again. There has been some rumors that the Konami president caused.
HoFabii 3 weeks ago
A few seconds later the world exploded out of the sheer awesomeness of Big Boss and Solid Snake hugging each other.
WYJAFAK2 1 year ago 6
......this was quite the tearjerker when I saw it.
Makes me wish I got to know my father....
EternalYoshi 1 year ago
I tried to hugged with my friend like this.
And he liked it too!
battlefields2mine 1 year ago
It would be badass if they put david hayters' voice for big boss in this scene too.
SneakingFox 1 year ago
makes my wanna cry
alysSuh01 1 year ago
big boss had to get his hair gelled up before coming to see his son
AkKilla 1 year ago 3
instead of snake.. theres always Big Boss
TheUchucha 1 year ago
*Headdesk* XD
Shadowfang3000 1 year ago
This isn't gay at all. :)
metalonline123 1 year ago
@metalonline123 if you think hugging your father (well technically) is gay you're just shtoopid my friend.:)
Logankeller352 1 year ago 9
BIG BOSS...TOOK AWAY THE GUN FROM SNAKE HANDS THEN PUT BACK AND GIVE HIM A HUGE...EVEN IF THEY WHERE ENEMIES.....THAT FOUGTH FOR THE SAME REASON BE FREE..........BIG BOSS ALWAYS LOVE HIS ALL SONS SOLIDUS,LIQUID,AND SOLID SNAKE .......BUT LIKE THE BOSS AND BIG BOSS SAID THE WORLD HIS BETTER WITH OUT SNAKES.......
TheANGELOJOKER 1 year ago
@TheANGELOJOKER
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SamyazaLovatt 1 year ago
Snake: how the hell did I get here!?
wolflover552 1 year ago
This is a hilarious moment in a really sad scene.
Tellmeimaninja 1 year ago
That's how my girlfriend hugs me, only she throws me to the ground and goes for a ride.
14Schofield 1 year ago 30
@14Schofield that's nice man really! also unneeded info.
The2099spidey 11 months ago
@14Schofield is she a Screaming Mantis...?
I-I mean... is her birthday in December? Because then she might be a Crying Wolf... and then I'd have to pity you.
ZettaiGARGattai 5 months ago
Not as badass as the handshake in MGS 2, but still badass.
mgf001 1 year ago
I can't decide secret handshake or this
Madrespect20 1 year ago
so big boss didnt teach him cqc he taught him the weirdest way to hug
drakoon476 1 year ago
my dad does only half of that...I meant the cqc
TehSchimMan 1 year ago
this is how i hug my friends
BJ778 1 year ago 4
did anyone watch the "Lets get it on" remake of this? lmaooooooo
MiNDx1er 1 year ago
Most epic hug ever
qwert25 1 year ago
Damn, just these 20 seconds makes me cry.
RanFujimiya 1 year ago 5
Happy Father's Day, people.
IntricationZ 1 year ago 6
pyaah!! pyaah!!! gimme a hug lol
xNightsAfterDreamsx 1 year ago
Close Quarters Cuddle.
Azimio 1 year ago 96
This is a good way to hug a girl, because it shows how manly you are by whipping her around a bit, and yet, you can show just enough sympathy to hug her.
PsychoCasualty 1 year ago
@PsychoCasualty Yea, but it doesn't end out well when you break her arm.
jcspider99 1 year ago
@jcspider99 But then you can impress her with your first aid, healing skills! Just open up her survival viewer
PsychoCasualty 1 year ago
thats how father and son should hug make it a little more manly lol
DetenatorDan 1 year ago
this after big boss almost killing snake twice in outer haven and zanzibar land L0L
hjnsf 1 year ago
Got a massive earge to shout METAL GEAR! in the solid snake voice when i saw this!
GuitarCalE 1 year ago
wait, i thought bigg boss was dead?
what the fuck
10lettername 1 year ago
@10lettername
Uh... yeah, you see, people can apparently survive getting burned to a crisp with a zippo and spray can...
Also;
YOU JUST GOT SPOILED!
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
Manly tears. ;_;
SailorVhoorl 1 year ago 7
There's something I can't understand about the series... Is Big Boss "evil" on the two first games for MSX? Why is Snake fighting him?
Lannaryu 1 year ago
they make you think he is...
YoungMetalgearPro 1 year ago
@Lannaryu
Big Boss was never evil... ****SPOILERS****
He fought for what he believed, and wanted a nation for soldiers outside the Patriots's range.
Solid Snake was used by the Patriots to fight him (just like Solid Snake being used by them his entire life).
WillySnake01 1 year ago 3
@WillySnake01
Yeah.....it's hard to tell right from wrong in this series lol, thanks for clarifying. The first cutscene in act 2 really threw me for a loop the first time through.
Manofaction0 1 year ago
@Lannaryu yeah, he was a good guy around the time he was called Naked Snake
hjnsf 1 year ago
@hjnsf if you played MGS4, it explains there were never any bad guys to begin with, just 2 different confused good guys going against one another while trying to carry on the will of a single person. and all of that happening while the clone son is caught in the middle.
IntricationZ 1 year ago 7
The best and yet, saddest part of the game. And by GOD it was LONG! 45 minutes of yammering about Zero!
digitalhoser 2 years ago 2
imagine if this was a movie i'd say it would be number 1 movie of the year
kuramaredrose 2 years ago 4
Wow, This man is really Big Boss. You can tell by just looking at his posture and speed when doing CQC that he is not an opponent you would like to fight. Just understand this scene, He STOPPED snake without even a gun or knife while snake had a gun. Not so much the hug but the respect of being called Big Boss is what you can see and understand in those few seconds.
darkshiryu 2 years ago
Snake isn't exactly a CQC master.
jeezulz 2 years ago
he's better than everyone else
kuramaredrose 2 years ago 3
he is better than everyone else except big boss
kuramaredrose 2 years ago
one thing i dont understand is how big boss survivd trough all the games, and yoou kill him in Metal gear 2: Solid Snake and you cant see that big boss has ben burnt in the face.... just kinda wierd
Zentrix97 2 years ago
Wow....I hope no one else finds out that the only way to stop Solid Snake is by hugging him! XD
GrayWolfen1488 2 years ago 9
i quite seriously cried durring this.
jakonen 2 years ago 4
I know :'(
ninjadude9 2 years ago
I DID 2
xPOWMIASOLDIERx 2 years ago
I LOVE THE EPIC WHOOSHH WHEN HE HUGS HIM
ForcheAlex 2 years ago
pure epicness ftw!
i agree niz32iqbal :]
chaossk8r1990 2 years ago
im a dude, a hardcore metal gear fan. and this game made me emotional... arrrgghhh wat does that mean?? anyone else get emotional a few times in this game?
niz32iqbal 2 years ago 7
i aint gonna lie it almost made me cry and yea i got too emotional
coldestfrostx4 2 years ago
hell yeah
gimmjoww 2 years ago
Who else agrees this should be a move for CQC EX in Metal Gear Online? It sure as heck would make the skill more worthwhile in my opinion, countering is nice, but a counter AND a hug would just be plain epic.
Momentum139 2 years ago 3
the most Manly Hug in history.
thewalrus45 2 years ago 237
@thewalrus45 hahahahah agreed
Oblius7Perkaiv 1 year ago
@thewalrus45 I refer you to the finale to Part 3 of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
VyseElric 1 year ago
@thewalrus45 lol yea
MrTman9000 1 year ago
@thewalrus45
"Don't cry please don't cry"
I siad to my own
battlefields2mine 1 year ago
true manly hug, you can see that Big boss feels sorry for
Solid Snake/Son/Clone about all the shit that happened to him...
Seniarth 2 years ago
I just wish Snake would have been like, "Daddy!" lol Loved that they brought Big Boss back. He was always my favorite character with Snake as my second. Both Pawn all.
MysticalWizardMerlin 2 years ago 2
Fail. Big Boss didn't exist back then - and how the hell would you have liked him back when he was the main villain in Metal Gears 1 and 2 which I HIGHLY doubt either of us were around for. (jking)
Momentum139 2 years ago
Actually he did exist as the primary antagonist in the first 2 games. True it was just a picture on the codec but it was what he talked about in the transmissions that got my attention. I admired Big Boss for his beliefs.
MysticalWizardMerlin 2 years ago
one of my fav momments in mgs4 :") .... i have some questions when solid snake was on the grave who grave was it? (big mama, the boss?) and where he found patriot? ofc the compination patiot with flowers must be some kind of easter egg from the mgs3 scenes
ANTRASPS3 2 years ago
The grave Solid was standing before was the supposed grave of Big Boss. It was put there, next to the Boss's grave, to let the world think Big Boss really died in Zanzibar Land all those years ago...
robinpimpin190 2 years ago
"Is there a gun in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?"
ThomasRiver69 2 years ago 12
"Looks like someone needs a hug, MGS style" LOL great description, dude!!! =)
shinluis 2 years ago 3
play this while playing Calling To The Night. It's pretty cool.
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