You need to go and find a girl that likes you (narrowed down alot) then take out your penis and put that 1 incher in her pussy and then maybe you will stop whining about a film that was made along time ago.
I respect your opinion and all (especially the "Cheer Up Charlie" song), but I believe that the 2005 version is better. Why? The sets in the newer version look much better and timeless than the 1971 version, it was MILES more faithful to the original book, and the acting was very good. Besides, Roald Dahl hated the original.
The original is still enjoyable though, if a tiny bit overrated.
I dislike this movie. Why? I just can't stand musicals in general. I love Gene Wilder, but every song in this movie just kills it for me. That's me personally.
DID YOU JUST MAKE FUN OF JOHNNEY DEPP...DID YOU!!!!!! I WILL DO SOME RANT VIDEOS ON YOU....JOHNNY DEPP IS AMAZINGLY TALNETED AND AND IN ANY MOVIE HE PLAYS IN IS AWESOME SO SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE ABOUT JOHNNY OR I WILL PERSONALLY PUSH YOU IN THE CHOCLATE FOUNTAIN SO YOU CAN GET SUCKED UP..... thank you :S
@TheArchfiend you should be pissed that the movie came out in whatever country it was made in when the charlie and the chocolate factory came out. (P.S. you are awsome)
Am I the only one - and if so, does this make me a spoiled rotten idiot - that thinks movies like Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory, Clash of the Titans and Night of the Living Dead haven't aged well? Don't get me wrong, I love those movies, I just think they haven't aged well.
I felt the exact same way as a kid Arch. I mean do they really think kids are going to want to watch that scene and honestly enjoy it? I remember beung physically scared by tgat scene. Great vids Arch keep on posting!! Have a great day :)
The Oscars are all political anyway, they don't give two shits about comedies, fantasies and all that. To them, those kinds of movies are "unsophisticated". Plus, they don't judge films on how well THEY MIGHT hold up, they judge them on how good they were back then. I agree with your opinion on the films, but you shouldn't get so worked up about it. The past is the goddamn past!
i dk if i liked cheer up charlie but i did use that tune to make up a song for my sibs i rasied 3 of my sibs from 2001-2005 while in highschool so understand about hard times
Hey Archfiend! have you seen the dubbed versions of willy wonka? they are HILARIOUS very rude and well done, i warn you now it will upset you to see them, but if you want to have a laugh they are great
I completely agree with your assessment of the song- it is usually my clue to grab something to eat, take a bio break, flip channels for a while. Actually I have always preferred to watch the movie from when Charlie finds the money in the street and gets the ticket- from there on the movie is pure gold.
I heard that Roald Dahl (Sorry If I spelt his name wrong.) hated this film (the 70's version) when it first came out. I love the book, and the 70's film. Great video Archfiend, you're awesome.
I love the original, but i am tired of the movies not following teh books. The book is much more intune with the new movie. Another good example is Wizard of the Oz.
I agree with u about the cheer up charlie scene i skipped it as a kid and today i still fast forward it its so stupid but Gene Wilder should of won an oscar for tht movie he is one of my all time favorite actors
I'm glad someone thought the same about this movie that I did. I always skipped past that song, especially as a kid. It was totally out-of-place with everything else.
when you compare the willy wonka in the original to the one in the new one the one in charlie and the chocolate factory was kind of jerk at some points
I hate that song too and every time I go to watch this movie when I get to this part I always ask my self should I watch it or fast forward to the next part
Wilder got nominated for a Golden Globe. And I guess the film didn't get many nominations because not many people saw it. The film was a huge flop. It didn't get any recognition until it recieved numerous television plays in the early 80's and it soon became a cult classic.
PS I always hated the scene with Charlie's mom lol
If it succeeded Gene would have gotten nominated for an Oscar, plus he was up against Topel in the musical category at the Golden Globes! Fiddler on the Roof....yea Oscars are all about hype, so poor Gene didn't stand a chance.
Meh, yeah I think the mom just wanted a bigger part. Sing it with me now, "Cheer up Charrrlieee, show me your smiiile, Cheer up Charlieee, ah we're poor but your life will awesome in 15 minutessss..."
I LOVE this movie! Oh my God. Gene Wilder is awesome.
I totally agree with you on Gene Wilder...I love him as an actor...Willy Wonka was one of his best movies though i think....it actually didnt get very many good reviews when it came out which is why he wasn't nominated...though i agree he totally needed to win it hands down
I love the original but like the remake more because it's closer to the book. Have you read the book, Archfiend? because you never mention it in the rant.
this movie isn't my favorite movie of ALL TIME, it's in top 10, but it's my favorite children's movie, and yes, it was MADE for children, but it clung to adults as well,
I've always loved Willy Wonka, and I agree Gene Wilder was phenomenal and timeless...and yes, Cheer up Charlie is a dud.
As for Burton's version, I made the mistake of taking my niece to that movie. I'm sure it was more true to the book, but holy hell, even for me it was weird and my poor niece was completely lost. Honestly, I think I may have blocked 99% of that theater experience from my head.
"There's no earthly way of knowing / Which direction we are going! / There's no knowing where we're rowing, / Or which way the river's flowing! / Is it raining? Is it snowing? / Is a hurricane a-blowing? / Bah! Not a speck of light is showing, / So the danger must be growing, / Are the fires of hell a-blowing? / Is the grizzly reaper mowing? / Yes! The danger must be growing, / For the rowers keep on rowing, / And they're certainly not showing / Any signs that they are slowing..."
Those ompah lumpas in the 71 version gave me nightmares as a kid but you are right it is a better movie. The mothers song is dreadful but i think it was there to show the veiwer just how dreary their lives are.
Yes...I think it's why it's called Willy Wonka to begin with, rather Charely.
The new one is more similar to the book, though I liked the other one alot when I was a kid, liked the book.
Only think the new one did is add the extra with his dad. This actually was ok, but it made the ending to where he didn't accept due to his problems with family. However, note the original one changed the ending too and had more dissimilarities.
I agree with the Wilder stuff, he was a bad dude & funny.
it had nothing to do with whether or not it was like the book.
The original actually IS closer to the book, it follows the same basic story arch, the characters are truer to the book, and no themes or sub plots are added.
Slugworth is more of a plot twist and one you're really not paying that much attention to. It's sort of just slipped in there, whereas Wonka's daddy issues is the thing the newer film leads up to.
Dahl hated the original because it changed so much from the book. So much so that he made them change the name of the film. So how can the original be more like the book?
In fact, Dahl's own family stated that if he were still alive, he would have approved of the Burton version of the film. I'm sure they should know more about that than anyone.
He hated the original because he didn't like the film as a whole.
He didn't hate it because it "deviated so far from the book" that's bullsht. He wrote about 70% of the screenplay, the only thing Seltzer added was the Slugworth?fizzy lifting plot twist and Wonka's dialogue. You can literally tell which scenes are Dahls (entire beginning and classroom scenes) and which are Seltzers (Wonka's quotes and ending.)
That's actually not true, his wife stated that after the film came out. Why? Because she didn't want to be rude. His daughter Lucy just stated in a recent interview that he would have hated all the film adaptations of his books after his death INCLUDING CATCF.
Why? Because Dahl was a picky mofo and had a specific vision that no director could get write.That's what he disliked about the original.
If that's the case then Dahl would have hated Burton's film even more than the original. It actually contradicts all of Dahl's themes, Wonka is nasty and just as bad (if not worse) than the bratty kids that enter his factory. I say worse because he takes out all of his misery on other people.
He also forgives and learns to accept his nasty father who psychologically abused him and abandoned him. Also Dahl was NOT a sadist, he wrote funny tragedies and used subtle, dry wit and irony.
The original actually follows the book much closer, the characters are exactly like their book counterparts, the story arc is exactly like the story arc of the original (except with a twist that does not change the focus or even distract the viewer from what's going on) and the themes are all present. Slugworth represents the corrupt, evil adults.
I'd like to point out that Travers despised Mary Poppins. Many writers hate it when their books are made into film.
Hey archfiend loved the rant and speaking of the 1971 Oscars one thing I thought of was how French Connection won best film and is a good movie, but the Oscar clearly belonged to A Clockwork Orange.
never knew Gene Wilder never got nominated, i would've thought he would've a rela shame this movie is one of my favourite childrens movie from when i was a kid, great rant man.
I share your point of view and I'm just 18. I watched the first version of Willy Wonka a loong time ago and the chocolate factory and I still love it.
The new is way better. The old one was baddly acted, & horribly cast (except for Wilder). And unlike the retard who directed the old one, Burton kept the new one as faithful as the book (I'm not calling it a remake because it's not).
yes id have to say tht willie wonka was alot better thn charlie, but charlie and the chocolate factory wasnt supposed to b a remake of the movie at all in the first place, it was more to do with the book, and it did a gr8 job tellin the story from the book in movie form, whereas the 1970s willie wonka and the chocolate factory was gr8 as a musical
It shts all over the book! It's basically just Tim Burton putting all of the characters into Tim Burton World with Tim Burton themes and Tim Burton freakish characters.
Like he did to Batman, like he did to the haunting short story of Sleepy Hollow.
Dahl would have hated the new one even more than the original, everything they change in the original is ten times worse.
The original is way better than the remake. I'm not surprised that Gene Wilder didn't get nominated. The Oscars doesn't always reward the real talent in Hollywood.
Quote from imdb: "This film was going to be titled "Candy Man" - hence the name of the song - but it was changed when it was realized that "Candy Man" was underworld slang for a drug trafficker."
Well, I really didn't care for the scene, but not to the point where I'd not watch it. I'll watch it, it's just another scene in the movie for me. But you're right, it is a pretty pointless scene, guess nothing's perfect.
Actually, that is exactly it. A lot of my rants just come to me from something or another. And I strike while the iron is hot rather than make it later.
I agree, I hate Cheer Up Charlie. It has no place in the movie and has no relevance on the plot. It's the scene where you get up and take a LONG bathroom break.
I am actually a huge fan of his movies though I agree charlie and the chocolate factory was big let down as excired I was about the film and not some of his best work. the classic is definitely the best.
I remember watching this video in school (In 4th grade, last day before Christmas Vacation when you pretty much dont do anything, well not in 4th grade) and that mother song came up, everyone went "Uggh"
The other thing, I felt Willy Wonka and Chocolate Factory WAS much better when Gene was on the screen. The first 45 minutes before imo just werent as good as when they actually enter the factory.
I agree it adds nothing but I think what they was going for was after the kid leave his mom, she is to sing to get everyone to be sad, I think. but that's just me.
But yah I agree Gene was fucking comical and demented in that movie! I loved it! WIlly wonka actually is like a horror movie but with kids and candy! lol
You're right bro, the wrong Gene did win that year. Wilder should have won on WW, or at least been nominated..
babyfacedstar 1 month ago
This Film makes me wanna throw up the tone is so dark and its fucking weird!
VeridianClubGaming 1 month ago
You need to go and find a girl that likes you (narrowed down alot) then take out your penis and put that 1 incher in her pussy and then maybe you will stop whining about a film that was made along time ago.
robTorturewright 1 month ago
Hello, bitches. IGSRJ here.
whaowman 1 month ago
Cheer up char...FAST FORWARD !
StephenRickenbacker 1 month ago
I respect your opinion and all (especially the "Cheer Up Charlie" song), but I believe that the 2005 version is better. Why? The sets in the newer version look much better and timeless than the 1971 version, it was MILES more faithful to the original book, and the acting was very good. Besides, Roald Dahl hated the original.
The original is still enjoyable though, if a tiny bit overrated.
dwibs93 1 month ago
@dwibs93 Oh, and both Wilder and Depp are both good as Wonka.
dwibs93 1 month ago
Everyone hates that one part. It should of been banned.
Cavin21 2 months ago
So I'm not the only one who hates this song.
satinsguard 3 months ago
jhaha gene wilder has another rant at the beggining of rhinocerous which is good too
desertazul 4 months ago
maybe the song is why it wasn't nominated.
elsherdoo 5 months ago
"As you can see from the title of this movie" really arch?
TheKosuko213 6 months ago
trust me your not the only one who hated that.... I wanted to pistol whip that bitch
SuperJosephVincent 7 months ago
I dislike this movie. Why? I just can't stand musicals in general. I love Gene Wilder, but every song in this movie just kills it for me. That's me personally.
gaaraanime5 8 months ago
The Cheer Up Charlie scene didn't really bother me, although I would call it my least favorite song in the movie :P
Definitely agreed on Gene Wilder's performance; he was brilliant–IS brilliant. It's gonna be a very sad day when he's gone.
Spl4shD4m4ge 8 months ago
"Cheer up Charlie-"
BLAM! *headshot!*
DiddyJakal 8 months ago
DID YOU JUST MAKE FUN OF JOHNNEY DEPP...DID YOU!!!!!! I WILL DO SOME RANT VIDEOS ON YOU....JOHNNY DEPP IS AMAZINGLY TALNETED AND AND IN ANY MOVIE HE PLAYS IN IS AWESOME SO SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE ABOUT JOHNNY OR I WILL PERSONALLY PUSH YOU IN THE CHOCLATE FOUNTAIN SO YOU CAN GET SUCKED UP..... thank you :S
nirrit117 9 months ago
Crap! I was about to say, Fuck you!, when you said Gene Wilder's acting. But I got cooled down once you started to talk about it
TheNapoleonnerd 9 months ago
you didnt have dvr when you were a kid to fast foward
miseson 9 months ago
@miseson
No shit. We had VCRs and you fast forward on them the same as you would a DVR.
TheArchfiend 9 months ago 9
@TheArchfiend you should be pissed that the movie came out in whatever country it was made in when the charlie and the chocolate factory came out. (P.S. you are awsome)
evildarktigershark 8 months ago
@TheArchfiend i agree with you i hate that scene in willy wonka and the chocolate factory
TheTwilightSagaSucks 5 months ago in playlist TheTwilightSagaSucks's Favorited Videos
the part of charlie and the chocolate factory that sticks out in my head, is the room with the chocolate river. That my favorite part in the movie.
AkatsukiMario 9 months ago
lets see you make a better movie jerkoff
FreeportHometown 9 months ago
the clown has no penis
FreeportHometown 9 months ago
Is archfiends hat on fire? :/
slipknotmaggot4eva1 10 months ago
I hated that freaking song! Like you, I always turned the channel or skipped the part all together.
abbienarutogirl 11 months ago
I know what you mean about Cheer Up Charlie. It always bored me
I did stage crew for a play version of it
They made the song better by having Grandpa Joe sing it with Charlie's mother
but it still wasnt that good
marzipan0002 11 months ago
i love this movie, but that song is.... forgettable to say the least.
metamaster5469 11 months ago
Am I the only one - and if so, does this make me a spoiled rotten idiot - that thinks movies like Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory, Clash of the Titans and Night of the Living Dead haven't aged well? Don't get me wrong, I love those movies, I just think they haven't aged well.
IDaCashman 11 months ago
I never liked that scene either. I mean, when it appeared, I literaly thought "Dear gosh, not again!". Good rant, BTW.
roberts424 1 year ago
dude! just get on your knees in front of another dude and get it over with.
markchill34 1 year ago
I felt the exact same way as a kid Arch. I mean do they really think kids are going to want to watch that scene and honestly enjoy it? I remember beung physically scared by tgat scene. Great vids Arch keep on posting!! Have a great day :)
MrBritishKidd 1 year ago
The Oscars are all political anyway, they don't give two shits about comedies, fantasies and all that. To them, those kinds of movies are "unsophisticated". Plus, they don't judge films on how well THEY MIGHT hold up, they judge them on how good they were back then. I agree with your opinion on the films, but you shouldn't get so worked up about it. The past is the goddamn past!
jcdcwassup 1 year ago
cheer up Charlie makes archfiend cry everytime.
nigrobat 1 year ago
@nigrobat
Yes. But it's only because of the intense pain and nausea it induces.
TheArchfiend 1 year ago 3
@TheArchfiend maybe that is triggered as a self mechanism working to continue suppressing your emotions inside?
nigrobat 1 year ago
i dk if i liked cheer up charlie but i did use that tune to make up a song for my sibs i rasied 3 of my sibs from 2001-2005 while in highschool so understand about hard times
majormana1 1 year ago
Hey Archfiend! have you seen the dubbed versions of willy wonka? they are HILARIOUS very rude and well done, i warn you now it will upset you to see them, but if you want to have a laugh they are great
barrymanfan 1 year ago
Ahh I have to disagree with you on the Charlie song...I thought it was really sweet, and I liked it as a kid.
What always REALLY annoyed me was Wonka's outburst near the end. It wasn't in the book, and there was generally no need for it.
xBellatrixLestrangex 1 year ago
@xBellatrixLestrangex The outburst scared the living daylights out of me.
AkatsukiMario 9 months ago
I completely agree with your assessment of the song- it is usually my clue to grab something to eat, take a bio break, flip channels for a while. Actually I have always preferred to watch the movie from when Charlie finds the money in the street and gets the ticket- from there on the movie is pure gold.
bubblemum 1 year ago
I heard that Roald Dahl (Sorry If I spelt his name wrong.) hated this film (the 70's version) when it first came out. I love the book, and the 70's film. Great video Archfiend, you're awesome.
OaksAids 1 year ago
@OaksAids you spelled it correctly and you are right Roald didn't care for the 70's film
barrymanfan 1 year ago
It's one of my favourites too.
hmmhowstrange 1 year ago
I hate to agree with a wierdo closet case but, agreed.
Thunderklok 1 year ago
well i didnt hate the song, but i felt real awkward watching it
mrpotatohead34 1 year ago
i like the remake but because the orginal scared me
cuz i was 6
sheepRfluffy1 1 year ago
You kinda look like Willy Wanker, Arch.
cuttock 1 year ago
Hi, Archfiend. I like you videos. Now I don't agree on everything you say on your videos, but most of the points you make are valid.
LadyRaziBox 1 year ago 9
@LadyRaziBox
Thanks. Hope you didn't like the "Cheer Up Charlie" song.
TheArchfiend 1 year ago
always hated that song too.......Xp
SunlitAries1625 1 year ago
I love the original, but i am tired of the movies not following teh books. The book is much more intune with the new movie. Another good example is Wizard of the Oz.
thepoliticalstartrek 1 year ago
lmao, I do the same thing when charlie's mom starts singing. She looks so depressed.
ALLINKNOTS 1 year ago
the book had songs in it. the songs were so memorable. Cheer up charlie wasn't that bad. it was soothing.
xFIRERUSHx 1 year ago
I didn't like that scene either. Usually me and my family skip that part aswell.
ZerrickiShadow 1 year ago
I hate the music scene everytime I watch it on tv I change the channel to anything I can find.
TheMetroidMurderer 1 year ago
I always fast fowarded through that scene too. I thought I was the only one who did.
vaccarovj 1 year ago
I agree with u about the cheer up charlie scene i skipped it as a kid and today i still fast forward it its so stupid but Gene Wilder should of won an oscar for tht movie he is one of my all time favorite actors
babybyotch89 1 year ago
u suck
woottanggang 1 year ago
I'm glad someone thought the same about this movie that I did. I always skipped past that song, especially as a kid. It was totally out-of-place with everything else.
dabearz27 1 year ago
I never watched that movie.
Mesina2 2 years ago
I hated that scene also...
This movie is good, but it doesn't hold up to my FAVORITE all time movie...
Back Door Sluts 9.
yungerrapper 2 years ago
Go eagles nice vid
ShinGoku77 2 years ago
when you compare the willy wonka in the original to the one in the new one the one in charlie and the chocolate factory was kind of jerk at some points
GoldenSawblade 2 years ago
I hate that song too and every time I go to watch this movie when I get to this part I always ask my self should I watch it or fast forward to the next part
GoldenSawblade 2 years ago
it was 20 years his grandpa was in bed not 50
GoldenSawblade 2 years ago
Oh same difference.
TheArchfiend 2 years ago 2
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jcdcwassup 1 year ago
Wilder got nominated for a Golden Globe. And I guess the film didn't get many nominations because not many people saw it. The film was a huge flop. It didn't get any recognition until it recieved numerous television plays in the early 80's and it soon became a cult classic.
PS I always hated the scene with Charlie's mom lol
MetaPunkXP 2 years ago
I HATED that mother's song too.
WhisperHeadTrap 2 years ago
Well the Oscars usually are bullshit, like any awards.
backstreetsbev 2 years ago
I don't think anyone remembers Gene Hackman's performance...
But everyone and their mother remembers Gene Wilder's performance.
Sshelly34213 2 years ago
It bombed at the box office...
If it succeeded Gene would have gotten nominated for an Oscar, plus he was up against Topel in the musical category at the Golden Globes! Fiddler on the Roof....yea Oscars are all about hype, so poor Gene didn't stand a chance.
Sshelly34213 2 years ago
Meh, yeah I think the mom just wanted a bigger part. Sing it with me now, "Cheer up Charrrlieee, show me your smiiile, Cheer up Charlieee, ah we're poor but your life will awesome in 15 minutessss..."
I LOVE this movie! Oh my God. Gene Wilder is awesome.
PeaceOut2U07 2 years ago
lol true...thats what made Tim Burton's what it was...I love the Wilder Wonka but the Depp Wonka was more for teens and older adults....
ravennight013 2 years ago
Are you mental?? L M F A O
"the best kind of prize is a surprise!"
As opposed to Gene quoting Shakespeare...
yea...I can see how the Depp Wonka is more for adults then the original.
Sshelly34213 2 years ago
I totally agree with you on Gene Wilder...I love him as an actor...Willy Wonka was one of his best movies though i think....it actually didnt get very many good reviews when it came out which is why he wasn't nominated...though i agree he totally needed to win it hands down
ravennight013 2 years ago
omg same thing i hated her singing cheer up charlie and cooking or something i mean whats the point whatever i always skip forward it too
chrismicheal305 2 years ago
I HATE that song the mom sung.
I love the original but like the remake more because it's closer to the book. Have you read the book, Archfiend? because you never mention it in the rant.
jolawsci 2 years ago
i skipped that scene too!!!!
this movie isn't my favorite movie of ALL TIME, it's in top 10, but it's my favorite children's movie, and yes, it was MADE for children, but it clung to adults as well,
GamerGuitarer 2 years ago
I've always loved Willy Wonka, and I agree Gene Wilder was phenomenal and timeless...and yes, Cheer up Charlie is a dud.
As for Burton's version, I made the mistake of taking my niece to that movie. I'm sure it was more true to the book, but holy hell, even for me it was weird and my poor niece was completely lost. Honestly, I think I may have blocked 99% of that theater experience from my head.
4eyedCyclopes 2 years ago
I actually liked the Tim Burton version better, but I still really like the original
SIXTEENCINEMA 2 years ago
what about kill bill as your alltime fav
peterjmielke 2 years ago
i think you will agree that the new version had better music. (well, anything is better then that oompa loompa shit.)
MetalZoa1800 2 years ago
dude i agree with you on all of this
alameano 2 years ago
cheer up charlie...
i hate that fucking part.
Ronstefer 2 years ago
I agree on the "Cheer Up Charlie" song, I never really liked it much for some reason either...
LokizarroX 2 years ago
I liked the Tim Burton Version. But the Original was Much Better.
That Tunnel scene WTF.
samusaran11 2 years ago 2
The tunnel scene was awesome
Max300frk 2 years ago
"There's no earthly way of knowing / Which direction we are going! / There's no knowing where we're rowing, / Or which way the river's flowing! / Is it raining? Is it snowing? / Is a hurricane a-blowing? / Bah! Not a speck of light is showing, / So the danger must be growing, / Are the fires of hell a-blowing? / Is the grizzly reaper mowing? / Yes! The danger must be growing, / For the rowers keep on rowing, / And they're certainly not showing / Any signs that they are slowing..."
EvelioEinWindir 2 years ago 6
haha I definitely always fast-forwarded the cheer up charlie song! It was like 5 minutes long! I couldn't stand it.
FanpiresRus 2 years ago
So, you are trying to be Randall from Clerks?
dashboardfan8 2 years ago
you cant beat the old version
disturbedman360 2 years ago
the song cheer up charlie is takes forever
wormy105 2 years ago
Those ompah lumpas in the 71 version gave me nightmares as a kid but you are right it is a better movie. The mothers song is dreadful but i think it was there to show the veiwer just how dreary their lives are.
killbotkillbotkill 2 years ago
Didn't Roald Dahl complain that Willy Wonka movie was nowhere like his book? He didn't like it..
464Shu 2 years ago 3
Yes...I think it's why it's called Willy Wonka to begin with, rather Charely.
The new one is more similar to the book, though I liked the other one alot when I was a kid, liked the book.
Only think the new one did is add the extra with his dad. This actually was ok, but it made the ending to where he didn't accept due to his problems with family. However, note the original one changed the ending too and had more dissimilarities.
I agree with the Wilder stuff, he was a bad dude & funny.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
Roald Dahl wrote the screenplay himself.
AAMLfan 2 years ago
No. He simply hated the film.
it had nothing to do with whether or not it was like the book.
The original actually IS closer to the book, it follows the same basic story arch, the characters are truer to the book, and no themes or sub plots are added.
Slugworth is more of a plot twist and one you're really not paying that much attention to. It's sort of just slipped in there, whereas Wonka's daddy issues is the thing the newer film leads up to.
Sshelly34213 2 years ago
@Sshelly34213
Dahl hated the original because it changed so much from the book. So much so that he made them change the name of the film. So how can the original be more like the book?
In fact, Dahl's own family stated that if he were still alive, he would have approved of the Burton version of the film. I'm sure they should know more about that than anyone.
thismeinteil 2 years ago
He hated the original because he didn't like the film as a whole.
He didn't hate it because it "deviated so far from the book" that's bullsht. He wrote about 70% of the screenplay, the only thing Seltzer added was the Slugworth?fizzy lifting plot twist and Wonka's dialogue. You can literally tell which scenes are Dahls (entire beginning and classroom scenes) and which are Seltzers (Wonka's quotes and ending.)
Sshelly34213 2 years ago
That's actually not true, his wife stated that after the film came out. Why? Because she didn't want to be rude. His daughter Lucy just stated in a recent interview that he would have hated all the film adaptations of his books after his death INCLUDING CATCF.
Why? Because Dahl was a picky mofo and had a specific vision that no director could get write.That's what he disliked about the original.
Sshelly34213 2 years ago
If that's the case then Dahl would have hated Burton's film even more than the original. It actually contradicts all of Dahl's themes, Wonka is nasty and just as bad (if not worse) than the bratty kids that enter his factory. I say worse because he takes out all of his misery on other people.
He also forgives and learns to accept his nasty father who psychologically abused him and abandoned him. Also Dahl was NOT a sadist, he wrote funny tragedies and used subtle, dry wit and irony.
Sshelly34213 2 years ago
The original actually follows the book much closer, the characters are exactly like their book counterparts, the story arc is exactly like the story arc of the original (except with a twist that does not change the focus or even distract the viewer from what's going on) and the themes are all present. Slugworth represents the corrupt, evil adults.
I'd like to point out that Travers despised Mary Poppins. Many writers hate it when their books are made into film.
Sshelly34213 2 years ago
BTW I apologize for spelling and grammar issues.
Sshelly34213 2 years ago
Say what you will about the new movie, but I think this is how remakes should be. Stay faithful to major plot points but do something new with it.
QZ7 2 years ago
Hey archfiend loved the rant and speaking of the 1971 Oscars one thing I thought of was how French Connection won best film and is a good movie, but the Oscar clearly belonged to A Clockwork Orange.
SuperTrooper107 2 years ago 3
I liked the version with Johnny Depp, granted I've never seen the older version but I still think the movie is great.
NeoTStyle 2 years ago
great rant archie bucket
funkydude009 2 years ago
never knew Gene Wilder never got nominated, i would've thought he would've a rela shame this movie is one of my favourite childrens movie from when i was a kid, great rant man.
Perfection1984 2 years ago
I share your point of view and I'm just 18. I watched the first version of Willy Wonka a loong time ago and the chocolate factory and I still love it.
Angelofexecution 2 years ago
The new is way better. The old one was baddly acted, & horribly cast (except for Wilder). And unlike the retard who directed the old one, Burton kept the new one as faithful as the book (I'm not calling it a remake because it's not).
Frisby2007 2 years ago
No, you're not the only one who didn't like that " Cheer Up Charlie" song. That song was too depressing to be in a happy and jolly musical like this.
GooberGamer 2 years ago
yes id have to say tht willie wonka was alot better thn charlie, but charlie and the chocolate factory wasnt supposed to b a remake of the movie at all in the first place, it was more to do with the book, and it did a gr8 job tellin the story from the book in movie form, whereas the 1970s willie wonka and the chocolate factory was gr8 as a musical
luverofmysoul 2 years ago 15
No it DOES NOT.
It shts all over the book! It's basically just Tim Burton putting all of the characters into Tim Burton World with Tim Burton themes and Tim Burton freakish characters.
Like he did to Batman, like he did to the haunting short story of Sleepy Hollow.
Dahl would have hated the new one even more than the original, everything they change in the original is ten times worse.
Sshelly34213 2 years ago
those damn oompa loompas still scare the shit out of me.
That said, good rant.
wingman32x 2 years ago
I love it when you point at the advertisement >.>
CodeNinja1337 2 years ago
CHEER UP ARCHIE
GIVE ME SOME RANTS
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ARCHFIEND I USED TO KNOW
DON'T YOU KNOW THIS SONG HAS ALWAYS BEEN
SO ANNOYING
LET THAT HATRED SHOW!
(i am no weird al yankovic, but damn that song was annoying, and was very sad.)
jordanhass 2 years ago 10
When that scene comes on I would change the channel or I would shut off the tv.
Thefriendlybaron 2 years ago
Well Yell the Archfiend keeps going and he's not showing any signs of slowing!
PunisherNGhostRider 2 years ago
That scene bored the crap out of me too. I always used to fast forward it.
robinmasters87 2 years ago
I don't remember that scene. I was too buy getting Pepsis for myself at that moment lol
ZeppelinMan04 2 years ago
i totally used to fast forward that scene too
Rubik92 2 years ago
The original is way better than the remake. I'm not surprised that Gene Wilder didn't get nominated. The Oscars doesn't always reward the real talent in Hollywood.
terriblefilms 2 years ago
I have an oompaloompa shirt lol that was my first screen name oompaloompa hahaha...I want a snozzberry!
bookittty182 2 years ago
well said
CaptenMidnite 2 years ago
Willy Wonka is a disguised drug movie.
SuperGuyincognito 2 years ago
Quote from imdb: "This film was going to be titled "Candy Man" - hence the name of the song - but it was changed when it was realized that "Candy Man" was underworld slang for a drug trafficker."
SuperGuyincognito 2 years ago
I hated the scene
ValleyDave 2 years ago
I hated the scene too, Archie.
SMRPGFAN101 2 years ago
i agree totally arch
strictlysega 2 years ago
i watched it first when i was 5. loved it. and no i didnt like that scene with charlie's mom
philliesfan111 2 years ago
that song should be renamed "go put the kettle on" or "go and take a piss cause this is song is bad"
psycowolfkiller2099 2 years ago
i would change the channel or leave the room when i heard her sing
Wrath987001 2 years ago
Well, I really didn't care for the scene, but not to the point where I'd not watch it. I'll watch it, it's just another scene in the movie for me. But you're right, it is a pretty pointless scene, guess nothing's perfect.
Judhifen 2 years ago
I agree, im 17 and I still enjoy the movie.
wesleyfilms 2 years ago
I'm watching right now aswell ARch. The Charlie one sucked ass and the original was awesome. I watch it when it comes on TV
Taps1995 2 years ago
I agree, Willy Wonka and the chocolate Factory is a lot better
Hulavuta 2 years ago
I found "Cheer up, Charlie" to be boring and pointless.
wayne388 2 years ago
Gene wilder got a golden globe award for best actor.
as for Gene Irate Hackman. The French Connection got 5+ oscars, gayness.
VenusHeadTrap 2 years ago
lol i still fast forward when she starts singing. also did u just see that movie on tv and think "i can make a rant about that!!" LOL
Wood1882 2 years ago
Actually, that is exactly it. A lot of my rants just come to me from something or another. And I strike while the iron is hot rather than make it later.
TheArchfiend 2 years ago
I agree, I hate Cheer Up Charlie. It has no place in the movie and has no relevance on the plot. It's the scene where you get up and take a LONG bathroom break.
But yeah, Willy Wonka is timeless and fun.
dtmdantheman 2 years ago
lol
highrollerr21 2 years ago
Gene Hackman is an OUTSTANDING actor watch facture (think thats the one I'm thinking of)
Leaffaninalberta 2 years ago
the movie ended just now on ABCfamily
Dropkick32X 2 years ago
I know.
TheArchfiend 2 years ago
if it was sung by metallica would you like it?
TlGBC 2 years ago
No. They suck too.
TheArchfiend 2 years ago
how about slipknot?
highrollerr21 2 years ago
Them too.
TheArchfiend 2 years ago
"Johnny" Depp"
you mean the one made by Tim Burton?
I am actually a huge fan of his movies though I agree charlie and the chocolate factory was big let down as excired I was about the film and not some of his best work. the classic is definitely the best.
Kirubi89 2 years ago
Awesome movie!!!!!!! That seen did kill the flow of the flick, especialy when your a kid and 3 or 4 minutes seems like an eternaty!
BJOEYAK 2 years ago
I remember watching this video in school (In 4th grade, last day before Christmas Vacation when you pretty much dont do anything, well not in 4th grade) and that mother song came up, everyone went "Uggh"
The other thing, I felt Willy Wonka and Chocolate Factory WAS much better when Gene was on the screen. The first 45 minutes before imo just werent as good as when they actually enter the factory.
shadydawg555 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Hate to break it to you, but that song owns.
IGSRJ 2 years ago
Thumbs down this comment plz.
TheArchfiend 2 years ago
wtf you cannot silence reason.
IGSRJ 2 years ago
Thumbs down this comment also, plz.
TheArchfiend 2 years ago 2
@TheArchfiend thumbs down this comment plz
gamerboy218 1 year ago
the only Scene that annoys me is the "YOU LOSE, GOOD DAY SIR" one
Sorry guys
Sora444 2 years ago
I feel the same way about al pacino in scarface, he should have got a oscar for that movie. and the kids mother's song is so so in my opinion.
beavisjr39 2 years ago 2
So so, in a movie of catchy songs. That song gets burried by EVERY other song in that movie. It also adds nothing to the film.
TheArchfiend 2 years ago
I agree it adds nothing but I think what they was going for was after the kid leave his mom, she is to sing to get everyone to be sad, I think. but that's just me.
beavisjr39 2 years ago
Forgot to Put something there
That Scene ALWAYS Pissed me off
I'm so Happy That Some one else has the same opninion One that Shitty scene xD
fumado2000 2 years ago
Thanks. I was always wondering if that scene bothered other people besides me.
TheArchfiend 2 years ago
Nice video.
mariokev 2 years ago
lol, I actually have no real comment about this rant. But yeah, the Johnny Depp one was major suckish.
CrispyCritty 2 years ago
Wasn't Depp portraying Michael 'Jacko' Jackson in his version of Willy Wonka?
seka1986 2 years ago
Yah I heard Depp was portraying Jacko too.
But yah I agree Gene was fucking comical and demented in that movie! I loved it! WIlly wonka actually is like a horror movie but with kids and candy! lol
bookittty182 2 years ago
I also like Pee Wees Big Adventure theres another demented movie!!! haha
bookittty182 2 years ago
suuuure. You can say you hate the movie. I won't ban you if you do.
*has fingers crossed behind back*
TheArchfiend 2 years ago
*sigh* I hate that bitch and her crossed fingers
VenusHeadTrap 2 years ago